Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on April 28, 2013 by Allahpundit

Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.

This is the landscape President Obama confronts as he considers how to respond to growing evidence that Syrian officials have used chemical weapons, crossing a red line he had set…

“My sense is that there are no seculars,” said Elizabeth O’Bagy, of the Institute for the Study of War who has made numerous trips to Syria in recent months to interview rebel commanders.

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New questions have emerged over the source of the soil and other samples from Syria which, it is claimed, have tested positive for the nerve agent sarin, amid apparent inconsistencies between eyewitness accounts describing one of the attacks and textbook descriptions of the weapon…

According the US Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, “sarin is a nerve agent that is one of the most toxic of the known chemical warfare agents. It is a clear colourless liquid … generally odourless and tasteless”.

But eyewitness accounts of that attack, in which six rebels died and which were reported at the time by the Associated Press described “white smoke” pouring from shells that “smell[ed] … like hydrochloric acid”.

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As the Obama administration weighs how to respond to the use of poison gas, intelligence officials say they are confident that sophisticated tests of tissue and soil samples and other evidence point to sarin. But reactions in the U.S. intelligence community have varied because of the possibility — however small — that the exposure was accidental or caused by rebel fighters or others outside the Syrian government’s control, officials said.

Releases of poison gas could have occurred when soldiers loyal to the regime, which has been trying to secure and consolidate its dozens of chemical weapons sites, moved part of its stockpile, a U.S. Defense official said. Another possibility is that disloyal Syrian weapons scientists supplied chemicals to rebel fighters…

“The Iraq WMD is looming over this, as it ought to be,” a senior congressional official said. “How can you be more confident in the assessment here? These are questions we are all asking.”

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Syrian Information Minister Omran Al-Zoubi rejected US and British allegations Damascus had used chemical weapons against opposition fighters, and instead accused Turkey of allowing rebels to transfer chemical weapons across the border into Syria, the Syrian SANA new agency reported…

The Americans “want to manipulate the issue, to let whoever used the chemical weapons … get away (with it), and to repeat the Iraq example,” Al-Zoubi said.

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“The reason to push the evidentiary basis is to have a better chance of convincing the Russians that an international red line has been crossed,” and that appropriate action should be taken, said one knowledgeable official. “That’s the best outcome.”…

U.S. military planners are developing detailed options for how the U.S. could take action once decisive evidence of Syrian chemical weapons use has been found. There are a range of targets, including facilities associated with the chemical weapons program, the command and control nodes of Assad’s army and special units that have been involved in the bloodiest fighting. But these would be major operations requiring a very heavy investment of money, troops and hardware, and the administration much prefers the alternative of a negotiated political settlement, if it can be achieved with Russian help.

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One thing that Obama has made very clear in his approach to war and peace: He abhors the prospect of uncontrolled escalation. (In this sense, he bears similarities to John F. Kennedy.) And, as he no doubt knows well, Syria isn’t Libya, where an embattled, isolated dictator was hanging on to power only with the aid of foreign mercenaries. Assad has the Syrian army fighting for him (minus a few high-ranking defectors); he has the support of several factions of the Syrian population, including Christians, who fear what might happen if the Muslim rebels—some of them radical Islamists—take power; and he receives aid, to varying degrees, from Russia, China, and Iran. Toppling Assad might mark not the end but merely a new chapter of a bourgeoning civil war…

But any president who’s apprehensive about escalation—and any president who’s read the history of the Vietnam War, as Obama has—must be concerned that one step inexorably leads to another. What happens after the first step? What happens when the Syrians escalate in response? Who cleans up the mess after it’s over? How much will this venture, however well intentioned, cost in lives and dollars? Obama probably also knows that the senators urging him to take military action will shirk responsibility, and blame him for all the troubles, if Syria collapses or goes up in flames in the aftermath.

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“Once you set up a military no-fly zone or safe zone, you’re on a slippery slope, mission creep and before you know it, you have boots on the ground,” said Bruce Riedel, a former CIA analyst and Middle East expert at the Brookings Institution.

“Or you end up like Libya where you don’t really have a control mechanism for the end-game, should you end up with chaos.”

The U.S. military has also completed planning for going into Syria and securing its chemical weapons under different scenarios, including one in which Assad falls from power and his forces disintegrate, leaving weapons sites vulnerable to pillaging…

Asked if he was confident the U.S. military could secure Syria’s chemical weapons stock, Dempsey told Congress: “Not as I sit here today simply because they have been moving it and the number of sites is quite numerous.”

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With even ardent Obama supporters like Jeffrey Goldberg reminding the president he has made it crystal clear that chemical weapons use would be a red line that would trigger a strong U.S. response, what follows will not only tell us whether that promise would be kept. It will also illustrate just how seriously to take other pledges the administration has made, specifically its vow never to allow Iran to go nuclear. With the White House desperately trying to buy time before making a decision on Syria, it’s fair to ask why anyone should regard American rhetoric on Iran as anything more than an elaborate bluff if Obama won’t keep his word about Assad’s behavior…

There may be no good options in Syria, but the blowback from a realization that the U.S. won’t stop mass killings in this manner may be far more costly. The price may not be paid by Americans, at least not immediately, but the toll in blood and diplomatic and security complications will be great. If American “red lines” mean nothing, then Obama’s blind faith in diplomacy will be exposed as a disastrous sham.

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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has huge stakes in the survival of Mr. Assad, his only real ally in the region. And United States intelligence analysts believe that Iran’s leaders have interpreted two decades of American drift on the North — during which Mr. Obama’s three immediate predecessors all said they would never tolerate the country’s obtaining nuclear arms — as a sign that Washington will not wage war to stop even a rogue nation from obtaining nuclear arms, or the ability to build them.

If the United States intervened in Syria to secure its chemical stockpiles — perhaps organizing the Arab League, the members of the Gulf Cooperation Council or NATO to share the job — Israeli officials say it would be a signal that Mr. Obama would most likely back up his warnings to Iran the same way. But the prospect of such a move also worries many in Jerusalem: one senior official said he feared that an intervention in Syria could also obfuscate “the problem of greater concern” for Israel, stopping Iran’s nuclear program.

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But the White House must recognize that the game has already changed. U.S. credibility is on the line. For all the temptation to hide behind the decision to invade Iraq based on faulty intelligence about weapons of mass destruction, Obama must realize the tremendous damage he will do to the United States and to his legacy if he fails to act. He should understand the deep and lasting damage done when the gap between words and deeds becomes too great to ignore, when those who wield power are exposed as not saying what they mean or meaning what they say.

The distrust, cynicism and hatred with which the United States is regarded in much of the world, particularly among Muslims across the Middle East and North Africa, is already a cancer. Standing by while Assad gasses his people will guarantee that, whatever else Obama may achieve, he will be remembered as a president who proclaimed a new beginning with the Muslim world but presided over a deadly chapter in the same old story.

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Claire McCaskill, a Democratic senator and member of the homeland-security and armed-services committees, stood out this Sunday morning by not rejecting the possibility of deploying U.S. troops to address Syria’s civil war. When host Bob Schieffer asked her and Republican senator Saxby Chambliss about the possibility or necessity of deploying U.S. troops at some point, McCaskill responded, “I don’t think you ever want to rule it out. As Saxby said, this thing has really deteriorated, and it’s not really at a tipping point, so I don’t think you ever want to say absolutely not. Obviously, we don’t want to do that unless it’s absolutely necessary.”…

The circumstances under which U.S. troops would be deployed aren’t clear — a U.N. peacekeeping operation, likely under Chapter VII of the U.N. charter, is not out of the question if Russia and China finally accept Assad’s fate, but U.S. troops do not particpate in such operations except as commanders (the U.S. contributes a huge share of their funding, though). A NATO on-the-ground peacekeeping or peace-making mission is theoretically possible, but was not carried out during the Libyan civil war, despite NATO’s extensive involvement — some allied special forces were put on the ground, but not Americans.

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It’s a headache for a president whose main mission was to get America out of bad wars, not into new ones. But there’s likely no way around it — sooner or later, Obama will have to make good on enforcing his red line. Failure to do so will undermine his credibility, encourage the Assad regime to deploy additional chemical weapons, and send a powerful signal to America’s friends and adversaries that we don’t mean what we say…

But a red line has indeed been crossed — not only in terms of Syria’s use of chemical weapons, but also in the slippery slide toward American military involvement. What Obama needs to decide is whether such military action is designed to deter the use of chemical weapons or topple the Assad regime by giving the rebels the advantages they’ve long sought — weapons, a no-fly zone, or direct U.S. military strikes against regime targets.

There’s a lot that’s murky about Syria right now, but one thing is clear. For America, a messy situation is about to get a whole lot messier.

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McCain said that putting U.S. troops in Syria is the “worst thing America could do right now,” because the Syrian people are bitter and angry at the United States.

“I think that the American people are weary. They don’t want boots on the ground. I don’t want boots on the ground,” McCain said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.”

But McCain urged the Obama administration to take several actions in Syria, such as arming rebel groups or establishing a safe zone, steps he and other GOP hawks have long pressed for.

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Via NRO.

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Via the Weekly Standard.


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I get the sense that the overwhelming majority of the American people want less involvement in the Syrian civil war, not more.

FloatingRock on April 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

williamg on April 28, 2013 at 11:59 PM

“Love In Vain” is a great tune. This is a very good rendition. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Axe,

Before I could paint her toes she made me sign a nondisclosure agreement. She is a lawyer ya know.

So I’m not allowed to tell you how phantasmagorically beautiful her toes and ankles were. Especially her ankles.

SparkPlug on April 29, 2013 at 12:05 AM

As far as that link, it’s a possibility, but because we’ve been seeing more of this lately, our time is more analogous to this, and we may be headed for something not quite as benign as confusion, but this instead.

INC on April 28, 2013 at 11:56 PM

INC, I just noticed something. re. this, 20. The outcry. I need to consider “outcry.”

/just-talking

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Terra firma Marshfox.

wolly4321 on April 29, 2013 at 12:07 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:02 AM

I can’t tell you how much the sacrifices both of you have made on behalf of the nation mean to me. You both have my respect, admiration, and my deepest and most sincere gratitude. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:07 AM

. . . still, whose carpet does a guy have to pee on to get punished like that? I’m there.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Sorry, gotta do it….Can’t……….Con-trol…..My…….Self!

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:02 AM

That’s very beautiful. Love the pipes. I bookmarked it. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:07 AM

You know as well as I that isn’t necessary, besides some couple had to be that couple;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Have You Heard – Moore

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Good Evening Jackie :)

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:02 AM

That’s Cool as hell…..but why do I have this feeling of an impending “Clint Eastwood Moment” as I listen to it?

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

El Dolor del Mundo

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

wolly4321 on April 29, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Indeed! Been a bit worried about you, some good comments you got going on, especially over on the ammo thread, but don’t let the anger get the best of you, our time will come;)

Btw, Spent many a night in the train station up in Al Quaim;)

Camp Gannon ring a bell?

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:14 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

I’m so very happy for you, MarshFox. I’ll be thinking of you both. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Besame Mucho – Cesaria Evora

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

I think Axe and Sparky need to schedule an appointment with Lila for their, uh, issue;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

LOL! Made me laugh! :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:18 AM

BTW, Axe – no one should ever, ever, ever punish you…….souls as pure as yours are FAR too rare an occurrence in the swirling vicissitudes of this mortal world………

Again – God Bless you……

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

@MarshFox

Catching up tonight, I saw this from yesterday or whatever:

awwwwwwwwwwwwww that’s so sweet!! :-D

Scrumpy on April 28, 2013 at 12:02 AM

That’s one way to describe it. It was sweet…and more.

Perchance, is The Axefellow married to MarshFox? I believe the latter’s spouse writes bodice-rippers.

I did get this other tweet from him today:

Ack. I miss you so much it’s pathetic. :)

Someone said, last night, that, if The Axefellow read Totally Batshit Crazy: The Six Most Insane People To Ever Run For President, he would never again be the same.

I think that he might have been right. :-)

Resist We Much on April 28, 2013 at 12:13 AM

1. At first, she’s talking about a poem I wrote. :) I wasn’t going to spam it tonight, but you are here and I don’t want to miss the chance to run it by Mrs. MarshFox (Lila Munro):

The Mirage — It can be taken at least three different ways. The literal story is about inevitability; the emotional theme is pretty clear; the hidden joke is about her Avatar (Which is where it actually started — it’s why it’s a ballad — but I accidentally got into it.)

Anyway — What’s Mrs. think? :)

2. That pathetic statement about missing her pathetically — it was SO NICE OF HER to post that. I have nothing else to say about that. :) Although, I really was missing her. And it really was pathetic. Let’s all just let that go.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

BTW, Axe – no one should ever, ever, ever punish you…….souls as pure as yours are FAR too rare an occurrence in the swirling vicissitudes of this mortal world………

Again – God Bless you……

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

lol — Yeah. I’m driven snow. :)

(Thanks, man.)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

TO be fair, she also posted that she misses you and ‘hearts’ you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:22 AM

I think Axe and Sparky need to schedule an appointment with Lila for their, uh, issue;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 AM

hahaha. He started it. (:

SparkPlug on April 29, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Tenderly – Chet Baker

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

You talk too much…since that…big question. We’re just watching, in awe.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:27 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

I will pass it on to her in the morning when she wakes, this should be interesting;)

My question is, how did you end up sharing in the first place, man, I am married to an erotic romance writer and you guys go all crazy over here and start imitating her books;)

Next thing you know we’ll all get banned for indecent behavior or something;)

To top it all off you guys are talking Psalms, I think other parts of David’s life might be more appropriate considering the direction you and Sparky are going;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

swirling vicissitudes

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Almost went right by that. Bacon has an essay on Vicissitude, you know. I used to have it up. Just mentioning. No one uses vicissitude. Maybe the occasional phantasmagoria and related words, but never vicissitude. Or dissimulation, either (also a Bacon Essay).

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:29 AM

I’ll just be over here… dancing… and looking at the moonlight. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:31 AM

Unsquare Dance – Dave Brubeck

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

I’ll just be over here… dancing… and looking at the moonlight. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:31 AM

I think you mean the moon will be looking at you. :)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

lol — Yeah. I’m driven snow. :)

(Thanks, man.)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:21 AM

You’re welcome…..remember: Frank Zappa was most definitely a Pure Soul, too!

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Can’t fight the Moonlight

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Stardust – Brubeck

:)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

My question is, how did you end up sharing in the first place, man, I am married to an erotic romance writer and you guys go all crazy over here and start imitating her books;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

I don’t understand the question, Fox.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

You do but your blocking it because you want to be monogamous and Spark wants to share, I see your conundrum with that one;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Flame – Cheap Trick

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:34 AM

You know I bookmarked that one! :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:42 AM

To top it all off you guys are talking Psalms, I think other parts of David’s life might be more appropriate considering the direction you and Sparky are going;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:28 AM

David told the truth and trusted God. I think of him all the time. I’ve tried to be like him. Epic fail. :) Can’t wait to meet him. Also . . . *sigh* . . . Daniel. The sigh being because of additional epic fail. :) But I’m all right — I’m me, not them, and I’m good. So to speak. :)

re. Resist — God knows she’s hot. Even if he didn’t, he does now, ’cause I haven’t shut up about her. :) Meh. I’ll climb down in a minute. :) Be patient with me, be patient with me. I know, I know . . .

You do but your blocking it because you want to be monogamous and Spark wants to share, I see your conundrum with that one;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:37 AM

More confused now than ever. Let me go ponder yur words . . .

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:42 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:42 AM

:)

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:44 AM

OOOOOOOOOOOOO

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:44 AM

Faithfully – Journey

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Good morning homeee-zzzz

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Stormy Monday

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Good morning homeee-zzzz

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:46 AM

b9 :)

One sec. I’ll go dig.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Sweet and Simple – Journey

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

@b9

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Faithfully – Journey

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Totally seeing all this you know. :)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:42 AM

When the world goes to sh@t which at this rate looks like in about 5 to ten, you had better come stay with us, because I worry about you, don’t worry I’ll make sure the buried school bus is all decked out for you;)

Ok, Spark is painting her toes, you want to be monogamous, and you got it bad for her, sounds like a visit to Lila’s couch to me;)

Btw, regardless of what Jackie says, I am the sort that gives that sort a bad name, so you being an epic fail, I think not, besides with all David did, God still made him King and loved him, pretty sure any sins you have committed don’t even compare. Me on the other hand, well let’s just say that that if not for Lila, I may have been down the same road as MarshFox Sr, Mr Libertine himself I tell you, he’d make some French kings blush;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

*hat tip*

@dire — M2POMB (music to pick other music by :)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:53 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Raised..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

That’s Cool as hell…..but why do I have this feeling of an impending “Clint Eastwood Moment” as I listen to it?

williamg on April 29, 2013 at 12:12 AM

No idea

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

I Love You More Than You’ll Ever Know – Moore

:) A favorite.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:51 AM

Yes. I know. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

@b9

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:50 AM

I could take that 2 ways.
You have an excellent memory and know I love DP.

OR You were enjoying me silent.

I will go for choice 1. Be happy, I know eyeball assaulters personally.

btw..I haven’t had a boring salad in a while. I am due. ;)

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Why is it, just when I get the chance to spend some time with her, they want to beat the war drums, men who know nothing about war, they call for it so easy, and young men and women pay!

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Good evening, Dire! Journey was great. Love Perry’s vocals. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

I couldn’t figure out what you meant by “sharing.” Somehow, I was thinking of posting the poem . . . I couldn’t work it out. I get it now. :)

When the world goes to sh@t which at this rate looks like in about 5 to ten, you had better come stay with us, because I worry about you, don’t worry I’ll make sure the buried school bus is all decked out for you;)

lol — I need looking after? Meh. Maybe I do. I appreciate the thought. :)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Sunday Morning~

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:53 AM

*Hat Tip*..:)

PS..Sirius..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 12:58 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:52 AM

But you DIDN’T travel that road, MarshFox. Besides youthful indiscretions aside, you’ve matured into a different man. That’s what counts. Mrs. MarshFox doesn’t sound like the kind of woman who would bother with a trifling excuse for a man.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Either way we’ll be close by once we are retired, and you can come hang out in my Hobbit House man cave;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

You have an excellent memory and know I love DP.

btw..I haven’t had a boring salad in a while. I am due. ;)

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

1. Duh. :)

2. You have no idea how many times I’ve walked up to a boring salad joke and walked away. It’s like chap-stick. I just keep it around.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Good evening, B9. :) Great to see you.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:00 AM

*lights up a cig*

tommy71 on April 29, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

lol@duh

good man. :)

Your climbing the b9 latter.

Watch out spark! lol

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:01 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Schon..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:02 AM

eveing dire

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 12:55 AM

Glam..:)

PS..Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

lol . . . “Who TF are you, Emeril!?”

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Open Arms – Journey

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:59 AM

I know, I know, and your right she isn’t. She is in fact the only women in the universe who could have caused me to pursue being a man.

I was trying to show Axe though that he’s isn’t a failure. Besides he scored a date with Sophie, I mean, what cosmic forces lined up for that to happen;)

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Leave the Syrian dictator alone. He goes, and we’ll have the Islamist loonies in charge of Syria. Bad news.

tommy71 on April 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

MarshFox on April 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

lol! It’s an interesting pairing, Axe and RWM. I think it was a combination of things. Personality, perspicacity, and persistence. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Good evening, Dire! Journey was great. Love Perry’s vocals. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Love this one. “Journey didn’t end because fans never left the band; Journey ended because the band left the fans,” someone said.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

lol . . . “Who TF are you, Emeril!?”

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:04 AM

:)
U are from LA-thought it fit. Glad u laughed didn’t want u to think i was mean.
Yummy btw! ;)

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Leave the Syrian dictator alone. He goes, and we’ll have the Islamist loonies in charge of Syria. Bad news.

tommy71 on April 29, 2013 at 1:07 AM

Indeed – they are all the enemies of the US and of civilization.

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 1:09 AM

Midnight Blues – Moore

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Million..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:11 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Excellent!!..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbzB3Ilwe_g

equanimous on April 29, 2013 at 1:06 AM

Haven’t seen Rush in a while. :) And clean vinyl!

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

@axe

this is one fave. Flies on the wind screen-#2

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:13 AM

Splendor

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

That is a great one and I thought it didn’t get the play it deserved, either.

Yes…sadly the medical issues which resulted in down time, and the tensions and dissension within the band finished it.

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:12 AM

Best Band Name..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Indeed… splendid, too. :)

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:18 AM

Bluest Blues – Lee

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Best Band Name..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:15 AM

OK. Nice tune. :)

Um . . .

Worst band name. :)

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:19 AM

thatsafactjack on April 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Sky..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Splendor

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 1:14 AM

Mama b9 likes that a lot.

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Coolest band name

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:19 AM

Agree on the name..But very nice tune..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:24 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Very cool name..Nice tune..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:25 AM

Americans fear their gov’t more than terrorism

Schadenfreude on April 29, 2013 at 1:27 AM

@dire..si senor. (practicing)

Y’all are damn quiet..Cat got your tongue? hee

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Love this one. “Journey didn’t end because fans never left the band; Journey ended because the band left the fans,” someone said.

Axe on April 29, 2013 at 1:08 AM

Very nice. Looked at your link and found this as well. Good times back then.

arnold ziffel on April 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:24 AM

Cool name..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:29 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Sorry I’m all up for chat..:)

Dire Straits on April 29, 2013 at 1:30 AM

bazil9 on April 29, 2013 at 1:28 AM

Let me wind up my chatter box. This thread needs a shot of vitamin B9.

SparkPlug on April 29, 2013 at 1:30 AM

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