Music store owner exercises Second Amendment rights to substantial effect

posted at 6:31 pm on April 28, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Who really needs a gun anyway, right? You’re more likely to be shot with your own gun or … let’s just stop it, shall we? In Pennsylvania, the owner of a music shop found himself in a tight spot when an intruder came in, attacked him and then went after his wife. That’s a pretty bad day for anyone… including the robber.

A music store owner shot and killed a man who walked into the store and tried to attack him and his wife on Saturday afternoon in Bethel Park.

Police and medics said they were dispatched to Armen’s House of Music on Library Road at 12:17 p.m. for a reported stabbing/shooting.

Silvia Armen said her husband, Alfred Armen, came to her rescue when an intruder attacked her with a wooden night stick in the music store she and her husband own.

The police report indicates that the intruder, one Andrew Moore, first attacked Mr. Armen, injuring him. But when he went after his wife, Silvia, enough was enough. Armen drew his firearm, shot and killed the intruder. Alfred is in the hospital being treated for head injuries, but it sounds like Mrs. Armen is doing okay, mental trauma aside.

These are the stories that never get reported in the national media because they don’t support the meme being pushed by second amendment opponents. All’s well that ends well, so it remains a local story only, never mentioned on the floors of Congress. But the nearly tragic story of Mr. and Mrs. Armen’s music store boils down to one thing and one thing only:

A good guy with a gun.


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But, the police were just minutes away…if somebody was able to eventually get to the phone and call 911… //

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM

White House reports that Oblah-blah made a statement that “the Armen’s acted stupidly and they didn’t build that” on his way to Marine One for a golf outing with Tiger in Vegas.

RealMc on April 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Right the fluke on.

msupertas on April 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Seems to me everything worked out as it should. No need to go any further. Case closed

jaywemm on April 28, 2013 at 6:36 PM

But, the police were just minutes away…if somebody was able to eventually get to the phone and call 911… //

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Minutes away when seconds count.

msupertas on April 28, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Excessive use of force!

The attack was a lone wolf!

He was probably pushed into it by an older brother!

I sure hope Pat Toomey gets on this immediately to check his backround!

profitsbeard on April 28, 2013 at 6:37 PM

These are the stories that never get reported in the national media

Yeah, but they’ll go out of their way to dig up the “local” story of the child who was shot and killed by another child who found an unsecured weapon in the home.

GarandFan on April 28, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Why didn’t she just urinate on herself?

buckeye2k8 on April 28, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Good for you Mr. Armen, the community owes you a debt of gratitude.

fourdeucer on April 28, 2013 at 6:43 PM

I guess the Armans weren’t trained in the liberal defense techniques of vomiting and peeing on your attacker.

darwin on April 28, 2013 at 6:45 PM

[coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 6:34 PM]

All the more reason to carry a firearm, you never know when you’ll need it to call 911.

Dusty on April 28, 2013 at 6:47 PM

The intruder acted stupidly and had to face the music.

The gunshots in the store did not come from the 1812 Overture.

The intruder is singing a different tune somewhere and the angels are not singing him praises.

banzaibob on April 28, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Music to my ears .

EnglishRogue on April 28, 2013 at 6:51 PM

So,don’t take a wooden stick to a gunfight,it appears!!

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 6:54 PM

not to demean Ms.Silvia, but *somebody* has to toss out … “fat lady sings”

/ba-bump
/.

CaveatEmpty on April 28, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Hmmm,..a revolver?!

and the two struggled briefly before the owner pulled a revolver and shot and killed the attacker.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/04/28/pennsylvania-music-store-owner-fatally-shoots-intruder-police-say/

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Good effective gun control.

Effectively put the round down range and into the target.

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Officer describes the “incident”!

Raw vide: Bethel Park police chief describes music store shooting

Bethel Park police Chief John Mackey discusses the shooting at Armen’s House of Music at 5920 Library Road. (Video by Bill Toland; 4/27/2013)
==========

Video:( 8:30 )

http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/local/neighborhoods-south/bethel-park-store-owner-kills-attacker-685365/

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Alfred is in the hospital being treated for head injuries

….should have shot sooner!

KOOLAID2 on April 28, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Good effective gun control.

Effectively put the round down range and into the target.

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 7:02 PM

coldwarrior:Yup,which rendered a solution,to the problem!:)

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM

…usher/security guard with a CCW shot him. Once he was down, he killed himself. He never got beyond the lobby, so the 500 or more potential victims inside were never shot.
 
dentarthurdent on April 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM

 
Sure.. That happened…then.
Glad that’s how that particular one turned out…
 
verbaluce on April 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM

rogerb on April 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM

What an overreaction when he could have just peed on him and his wife could have just thrown up on him.

VorDaj on April 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I’d be interested in three things.

At what time did the attack commence?

At what time were the police called (911)?

At what time did the police arrive on scene?

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM

A happy ending!

indypat on April 28, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Feel good story.
:-)

tom daschle concerned on April 28, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Swan song.

VorDaj on April 28, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Probably someone dissatisfied with their guitar lessons. Still, go on the attack and you’re going to get wasted. Why is this so hard for people to understand?

WhatSlushfund on April 28, 2013 at 7:13 PM

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:03 PM

I’d be interested in three things.

At what time did the attack commence?

At what time were the police called (911)?

At what time did the police arrive on scene?

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 7:06 PM

coldwarrior:Good questions,

to use HilRods words:(sarc):)

‘What Difference Does It Make?’

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:14 PM

If it saves one life………………………..

Juno77 on April 28, 2013 at 7:16 PM

Excessive use of force!

The attack was a lone wolf!

He was probably pushed into it by an older brother!

I sure hope Pat Toomey gets on this immediately to check his backround!

profitsbeard on April 28, 2013 at 6:37 PM

profitsbeard:)

Maybe the attacker snapped,after scoping out the music stores
inventory,and discovered that there were no Middle Eastern related
instruments,or music books!!!!
(snark)

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

otis on April 28, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I’ll take a .357 in the key of C.

catmman on April 28, 2013 at 7:20 PM

I love it when a plan comes together. Props to the store owner for taking responsibility for his family’s safety. Thank you for getting a criminal off the street.

Philly on April 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Let’s see…..

Cost of a cartridge, maybe $0.45

Cost of a trial, $thousands

Cost of long term prison care… $many more thousands!

Sounds like a good trade-off to me.

ultracon on April 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Armen’s House of Music

5920 Library Rd Bethel Park, PA 15102
=====================================

http://web.armenshouseofmusic.com/

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM

God bless you Mr and Mrs Armen. I wish both of you a speedy recovery both physically and mentally.

gophergirl on April 28, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I am APPALLED at you people…I think we might profitably look at WHY Mr. Moore decided to resort to violence? What had the Armen’s done to him? Were they wearing their #WHITEPRIVILEGE too visibly? Did they provoke him some how? Possibly, Mr Moore aspired to be a Guitar God but circumstances thwarted him and in his anger and alienation he turned to violence?

Instead of this, you celebrate his wounding…for SHAME….

JFKY on April 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

gun control means dead intruders and live music shop owners.

that’s the way its gotta be, son….

ted c on April 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Andrew Moore sure as hell learned a basic lesson in personal responsibility.

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 7:29 PM

The system worked.

Curtiss on April 28, 2013 at 7:31 PM

I hope that the guy didn’t ask the intruder for proof of citizenship before he defended his wife….

Don L on April 28, 2013 at 7:32 PM

I don’t get it. Why couldn’t Silvia Armen simply pissed, pooped, or vomited to prevent this situation. She could have also used a whistle. In short, why would silvia or her husband needed a gun in Obama’s world? /

Happy Nomad on April 28, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I hope he used a .38 Special.

Flange on April 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Instead of this, you celebrate his wounding…for SHAME….

JFKY on April 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

You are wrong. I do not celebrate Mr. Moore’s wounding. I celebrate his death.

Happy Nomad on April 28, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Instead of this, you celebrate his wounding…for SHAME….

JFKY on April 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

JFKY:

I blame the entire episode on,


that Deadly Assault Wooden Stick!!

Oh,and if there were NO TREES,this “incident”, would of never happened!!

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Heard about this on the news last night.

Good on Mr. Armen and God bless both him and his wife.

PatriotGal2257 on April 28, 2013 at 7:42 PM

but, does Joe Biden approve???

ted c on April 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Defensive Gun Use on Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/

Theworldisnotenough on April 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM

but, does Joe Biden approve???

ted c on April 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM

No, the man did not fire the shot gun thru the door of the store or off the balcony….

that Deadly Assault Wooden Stick!!

Good point we need background checks, a waiting period and limits on the length or girth of wooden Assault-style sticks….

Really besides government-approved drummers does anyone really NEED an assault stick?

Think of the Children!

JFKY on April 28, 2013 at 7:55 PM

All this just because they refused to stock (c)rao sheet music. Tsk tsk.

SickofLibs on April 28, 2013 at 7:57 PM

canopfor on April 28, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Maybe if they took all the trees and put them in a tree museum?

Maybe charge the people a dollar and a half just to see ‘em?

In any case, we need a tree control lobby…stat!

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Biden is still wondering why the Armens didn’t just step out front and make shotgun sounds with one of the basses… or a drum.

RalphyBoy on April 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM

I hope he used a .38 Special.

Flange on April 28, 2013 at 7:37 PM

So do I. That’s my weapon of choice…and my CHL should arriving any day now.
Stories like that give me hope that if the need ever arises-perish the thought-my little revolver will get the job done.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 28, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Happiness, bang bang shoot shoot.

S. D. on April 28, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I am APPALLED at you people…I think we might profitably look at WHY Mr. Moore decided to resort to violence?

JFKY on April 28, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Yes, we demand complicated answers NOW.

/

lynncgb on April 28, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Defensive Gun Use on Reddit

http://www.reddit.com/r/dgu/

Theworldisnotenough on April 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Judging from that report, there soon won’t be any Obamavoters left!

OldEnglish on April 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM

OldEnglish on April 28, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Well, old chap…you’ve stumbled onto something…the crux of the gun control issue.

Too many Obama voters are learning direct and swift lessons in personal responsibility…and, unless, of course, they reside in Illinois, they won’t be voting Dem anymore.

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Sounds like yet another case of psychotropics gone awry.

paul1149 on April 28, 2013 at 8:49 PM

coldwarrior on April 28, 2013 at 8:46 PM

So, where’s the problem? :)

OldEnglish on April 28, 2013 at 9:21 PM

“We’ll, when an adult male is chasing a female with intent to rape, I shoot the bastard, that’s my policy”

-Harry Callahan

NC Cop on April 28, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Que Grateful Dead on store speakers.

Limerick on April 28, 2013 at 9:28 PM

A good guy with a gun.

There’s a song in that….

ProfShadow on April 28, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Let us not forget the improvement to the gene pool.

RUDYJ on April 28, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Let’s see…..

Cost of a cartridge, maybe $0.45…

ultracon on April 28, 2013 at 7:21 PM

You, sir, have obviously not purchased ammunition recently.

rah1420 on April 28, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I love stories with a happy ending.

MJZZZ on April 28, 2013 at 9:59 PM

You, sir, have obviously not purchased ammunition recently.

rah1420 on April 28, 2013 at 9:58 PM

my .44 magnums are ~$1.21/round

ted c on April 28, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Looks like the thread is trolls free….

Plus some good friendly snarcs…. :)

itsspideyman on April 28, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Let us not forget the improvement to the gene pool.

RUDYJ on April 28, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Whatever reforms from the USA’s ashes needs this in their Constitution. I’m absolutely dead serious. The more idiots you protect from themselves, the more Democrat voters you get.

MelonCollie on April 28, 2013 at 10:16 PM

I love it when the good guy wins and the bad guy bites the dust.

Othniel on April 28, 2013 at 10:47 PM

“That’s the name of that tune” – Baretta

OxyCon on April 28, 2013 at 11:12 PM

This is a Local Crime story, nothing to see here for big fancy-pants National bloggers for Pete’s sake. They have a fancy back-slapping event with the pols and fourth estate to gush about.

Neo on April 28, 2013 at 11:44 PM

A good guy with a gun.

Bravo, Mr. Armen.

Kenosha Kid on April 28, 2013 at 11:59 PM

All’s well that ends well, so it remains a local story only, never mentioned on the floors of Congress.

Yeah, but they’ll go out of their way to dig up the “local” story of the child who was shot and killed by another child who found an unsecured weapon in the home.

GarandFan on April 28, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Thus the struggle by the gatekeepers to keep their monopoly.
What does it mean to say that “all politics is local” when the media has the ability to bring national attention to whatever “local” event they choose?

AesopFan on April 29, 2013 at 12:11 AM

It shall not be infringed, even in PA !

TX-96 on April 29, 2013 at 5:56 AM

Wonder if Andrew and Michael are related? . . .

BigAlSouth on April 29, 2013 at 5:57 AM

He didn’t need to shoot the guy. He should have just let one of his heavily-armed, taxpayer-funded bodyguards handle the situation.

- M. Bloomberg

Bruce MacMahon on April 29, 2013 at 6:36 AM

You, sir, have obviously not purchased ammunition recently.

rah1420 on April 28, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I just bought three 100-round boxes of .380Auto at Walmart for $36 a box.

It was like spotting Bigfoot riding a unicorn.

Bruce MacMahon on April 29, 2013 at 6:44 AM

double tap center mass, Good job, sir.

deimos on April 29, 2013 at 7:32 AM

But the nearly tragic story of Mr. and Mrs. Armen’s music store boils down to one thing and one thing only:

A good guy with a gun.

No, you don’t get it. If disarming Mr. and Mrs. Armen with anti-gun laws and their subsequent loss of life SAVES THE LIFE OF ONE CHILD (!!!!!), it’s worth it.

olesparkie on April 29, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Hank “Guam Might Tip Over” Johnson calls for Congressional investigation of violins in music stores.

justltl on April 29, 2013 at 7:48 AM

This story has the added benefit that the bad guy was rehabilitated…permanently…

golfer1 on April 29, 2013 at 7:50 AM

READY! AIM! FIRE! I love those words in that sequence.

philoise65 on April 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM

… never mentioned on the floors of Congress …

We can’t blame that on the Democrats only.

Carnac on April 29, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Aside from the fact that many of these stories are later shown to be not quite exactly as the gun lobby reported them -let’s assume this went down exactly as Jazz tells it (save the ‘enough is enough’ narrative embellishments).
This tale does nothing to impugn those darn not-so-helpful-to-that same-gun-lobby statistics.
So…let’s just stop that, shall we?
Can’t wait for Jazz’s pro-smoking post based on that cousin he knows that was smoker into his 90′s…and how that proves smoking’s not harmful at all.

verbaluce on April 29, 2013 at 8:42 AM

I do nothing besides spew leftist propaganda and make a case for post-natal abortions. So…let’s just stop that, shall we?

verbaluce on April 29, 2013 at 8:42 AM

MelonCollie on April 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM

MelonCollie on April 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Easy now, the poor thing lost a brother on Saturday.

antipc on April 29, 2013 at 9:18 AM

MelonCollie on April 29, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Wow…neat device?
And what a take down on this topic…um…you do know the topic…right?

Also..Ironic that you bring up the word propaganda re: this post.
Ha.

verbaluce on April 29, 2013 at 9:23 AM

philoise65 on April 29, 2013 at 8:07 AM

I prefer:

“Stop!!!”

Pop.

Drop.

coldwarrior on April 29, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I was gonna say, we need to ban nightsticks, but then, what would the New Black Panthers do?

Tyrone Slothrop on April 29, 2013 at 10:10 AM

excessive force! they should have blown a whistle and vomited on the attacker

burserker on April 29, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Wouldn’t have happened if we had only banned wooden sticks.

HiJack on April 29, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Idiot didn’t read the sign, or he’d have realized his target was “Armen dangerous”.

I’ll be here all week. Try the veal. It’s like buttah. Don’t forget to tip your waitress.

The Monster on April 29, 2013 at 11:00 AM

The Democrats would rather see Mr. Arman and his wife dead.

CrustyB on April 29, 2013 at 11:09 AM

…usher/security guard with a CCW shot him. Once he was down, he killed himself. He never got beyond the lobby, so the 500 or more potential victims inside were never shot.

dentarthurdent on April 3, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Sure.. That happened…then.
Glad that’s how that particular one turned out…

verbaluce on April 3, 2013 at 6:22 PM

rogerb on April 28, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Very nice job resurrecting that little bit in an appropriate place.
As with most libtards, verbalunatic will try every way possible to ignore these events and try to claim they just don’t happen.
Can’t have facts ruin a good gun control meme…

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Another waste of oxygen removed from the planet. Thank you, Mr. Armen.

RebeccaH on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Can’t have facts ruin a good gun control meme…

dentarthurdent on April 29, 2013 at 11:50 AM

You offer that in defense of Jazz’s dismissal of statistics based on a single incident?
Zowz.

verbaluce on April 29, 2013 at 12:56 PM

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