Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on April 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

The [Gang of Eight] bill would … exempt wide swaths of people currently counted against immigration caps from any limits: The spouses and children of legal permanent residents would be allowed to come to the country on an unlimited basis, for example.

Thus, some combination of, perhaps, 7 million DREAMers, agricultural workers, and the newly legalized family members of current US citizens will be able to petition for their family members, further swelling legal immigration by an indeterminate amount.

And beginning five years after the bill is enacted, the Senate measure would create a new “merit based” immigration category with 125,000 initial visas (a figure that could rise to as many as 250,000 over time) that includes a path to a green card and citizenship, adding more than half a million potential new permanent US residents before the decade is out…

When immigration skeptics like Sessions and Roy Beck, the head of Numbers USA, add up the figures, they see a 50 percent increase in US immigration on an annual basis and as many as 20 million more new green cards within the next dozen years than would otherwise be authorized – and perhaps as many as 30 million more, according to a Republican aide.

***

[T]he road to permanent resident status that Rubio said would take a decade will take only five years for currently illegal immigrants who have done some work in agriculture. How many are there? Pro-reform congressional sources suggest the number could be 700,000 on the low end and 1.1 million on the high end. Congressional sources skeptical of reform say the number would be higher. No one seems to know with any certainty.

Then there is the other fast track, for the Dreamers. The Gang of Eight bill creates a special category for immigrants who came to the United States illegally before age 16. That applies equally to illegal immigrants who today are, say, 19 years old, or those who are 49 years old, or older…

Like agricultural workers, it is not entirely clear how many currently illegal immigrants and family members would be involved in the Dream fast track, but the total number could be in the millions — a significant portion of the estimated 11 million immigrants in the country illegally today.

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Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., a veteran of the last immigration fight, seems best prepared to counter the Gang of Eight. Just 15 minutes before the group’s press conference to unveil its bill last week, Sessions and Sen. David Vitter, R-La., held one of their own, featuring several law-enforcement officials and the head of the union for Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to criticize the bill as amnesty over enforcement.

Sessions has also warned about the effect that legalization and more visas might have on employment opportunities and wages for American workers, which is an angle that one of the biggest advocacy groups calling for lower immigration levels will pursue as it tries to drum up public opposition to the bill.

Roy Beck, president of Numbers USA, said his group plans to concentrate its messaging on Alaska, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, hoping that voters will help push the senators in those states to oppose the bill.

Our plan is that it does not get out of the Senate, and we still feel fairly confident of that. It’s a big battle,” he said.

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My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats.

But we’re not allowed to “discriminate” in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us.

The problem isn’t just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers.

Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can’t make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.

***

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the following, both within my native first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa, as well as from my nationally-syndicated radio audience:

* “Rubio has gone establishment. He’s dead to me.”

* “Rubio is being played by the ruling class. He’s clearly not ready.”

* “My love affair with Rubio is over. I’ll never vote for him.”

* “Rubio is off my list for 2016.”…

[P]olitically he is allowing himself to be branded as another big government GOP sell-out, because he and his associates are struggling to make the case to conservatives it is what’s best for the country and not what’s best for the big government Democrats. The comments by Conant and the actions of some on his staff to scheme against the Heritage Foundation, maybe the most respected think tank in the entire conservative movement, only reinforces that skepticism. The amount of political capital Rubio has wasted already in this effort is incalculable. I hope he really believes in this legislation, because it might cost him the presidency.

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“Immigration, broadly speaking, pits the elite versus the public as much as the Right against the Left,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, who spoke at a hearing on the Senate bill earlier this week. “It’s the church hierarchies versus the people in the pews, the union organizations as opposed to the union members, big business as opposed to small business. It’s no surprise that the Republicans supporting this thing are the ones with ties to the Chamber of Commerce, not ordinary voters.”…

“The only people in the room behind closed doors was congressional staff, big business, big labor, Silicon Valley, and a whole long line of special-interest groups,” said Rosemary Jenks, a spokeswoman for NumbersUSA, which favors more limits on immigration. “It’s very clear this bill wasn’t written to serve national interests but special interests, including the senators’ own special interests, with absolutely zero regard for unemployed American workers and taxpayers.”

***

“What eight people decide isn’t going to be the be-all, end-all for the House,” Goodlatte says. “It may be an indicator of where you can find some common ground, but the House, because it’s a Republican majority, will take a more conservative approach.”…

“I tell them that we’re going to break this all down into pieces that are more digestible,” he says. “We’re going to have a lot of hearings, and we’re going to turn this into separate bills. We’ll do an agricultural-workers bill, then an E-Verify bill, and then after the recess, we’ll maybe do some more. But it’s all a work in progress.”

A vague deadline, piecemeal legislation, and months of town-hall meetings, however, are what the proponents of comprehensive immigration reform fear most. There is growing concern by allies of the Gang of Eight that volatile summertime confrontations with constituents could make many House Republicans uneasy.

Goodlatte has little patience for such hand-wringing. As a former immigration attorney who has been in the House for two decades, he says doing things his way — a slow burn — is the only viable option.

***

I think it comes down to this. What kind of person do you want to be? Do you want to focus on the hopes and aspirations of the future, or dwell on fear and negativity? — to desperately clinging to the status quo? Do you believe that America has a bright dawn ahead, or that we must manage its decline?

Kemp was known for his cheery optimism. So was Reagan. In fact, conservatism didn’t really take off until Kemp and Reagan teamed up. And if you look at today’s most rhetorically inspiring conservatives, is it any wonder you find people like Sen. Marco Rubio and Rep. Paul Ryan — both champions of immigration reform?

The most vociferous opponents tend to be pundits and talk radio hosts, who don’t need to win a majority to be successful, and who have entirely different incentives.

I suspect this isn’t a coincidence.

***

Via RCP.


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RUSH: Well, I myself suggested a similar proposal about six months ago, and I have repeated it over the course of the past six months. Very simply it’s this. I’ve told everybody in this audience. I’ve told the Democrats. I’ve told the media. I’ve told the Republicans. I, too, will support amnesty if the newly made citizens cannot vote for 25 years.

Unfortunately, that would never hold up in the courts and Limbaugh probably realizes it.

Hannity is pro-amnesty. Levin is anti-amnesty, yet he goes apesh!t whenever anyone attacks his precious, little Marco.

bw222 on April 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I believe Rush is being entirely facetious here – illustrating absurdity by being absurd (or however he puts that).

He knows that no one who is petitioning for amnesty would ever agree to his proposal, precisely because they *want* the votes of these illegals and nothing more. It helps illustrate his point precisely – it isn’t about ‘compassion’, or ‘civil rights’, or any other damn thing *except* getting those millions of extra votes. The politicians won’t admit it, but Rush’s offer illustrates what they won’t admit. They can say it’s about ‘whatever’ all day long – and if they were telling the truth, then Rush’s proposal could be acceptable, but…

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM

ah, crap, sorry for the double.

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I Can’t Tell You Why – Eagles

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Opponents of the Gang of Eight’s travesty should reach out to the black communities in order to demonstrate the harm that it will do to their communities.

onlineanalyst on April 26, 2013 at 11:20 PM

This truly is a time when a “March on Washington” would make sense. The liberal Hispanic community has hijacked a legitimate issue to the point where you have to agree to amnesty for the illegals to even get a place at the table.

Amnesty has nothing to do with immigration reform. We need to reform the system and secure the borders before we ever even bother with the illegals.

And might I add that I hate Rubio now that I find that this bill he is pimping would not do what he claims and put millions on fast track to citizenship in five years or less. He lied to us. Why would we ever consider him for the Presidency?

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Very nice..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:27 PM

We’re missing our Paladin.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:27 PM

and the Abortion loving President blushes and says “God Bless” to a crowd if baby butchers.

Good God Almighty this country doesn’t deserve to live.

PappyD61 on April 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

That was sickening.

Here is part of what Sarah posted on her Facebook page:

“May efforts to cull the defenseless and vulnerable not be “blessed,” instead may God bless those who decide that respecting a culture of life in America is the only way to get us out of the mess we’re in.”

– Sarah Palin

http://palinpromotions.org/2013/04/gov-palin-theres-no-such-thing-as-a-coincidence

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

We wouldn’t. We also won’t vote for anyone who DOES vote for this immigration fiasco.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Thank you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:29 PM

“like as not”

I must have missed something. Wolf.

No comprende.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Very true. The first time Rush interviewed Rubio he asked softball questions, but the second time he tried to pin Rubio down. Levin wore “Mom Jeans” during both his interviews with Rubio and attacks anyone who criticizes Rubio.

bw222 on April 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

The only explanation I have about Levin regarding Rubio is that he’s got a blind spot. I can’t explain why. As I’ve said before, he did the same thing with Bachmann when she was running for Pres.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM

Swine of the land, from the very top.

Only when forced did they release the info.

Plus, Holder, instead of enacting the laws of the land, promotes amnesty and calls it “a civil rights matter”, and us “racists”.

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Take It To The Limit – Eagles

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

One of their very best. Timothy Schmidt on vocals I think.

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

Saw your post on ITER back a couple of pages. It was my field in grad school in the 1980s. A couple of things wrong in that column. ITER is an acronym (international tokamak experimental reactor). It was not proposed by Gorbachev (or Reagan and Thatcher). I recently looked into the history of it and the original proposal was made when I was 17 (in the 1970s) and I will be 70 when they first add tritium.

It is a complete joke. Someone[1] at MIT in 1985 wrote a paper, which showed that tokamaks are fundamentally unworkable due to the neutron flux at the wall. However, the bureacrats have bravely continued … of course note that those responsible will be long retired by the time it fails.

[1] Forgot his name. He died in the 90s.

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM

There you are! :) Good evening, Schadenfreude. :)

Yes… Holder is a pathetic excuse for an Attorney General. HE should be fired immediately for that comment. He’s a racist and a fool.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Seven Bridges Road

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:34 PM

No comprende.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Sorry, colloquial expression. Works out to ‘probably’.

wolfsDad on April 26, 2013 at 11:35 PM

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Limbaugh’s point is that the political class would never agree to any such delayed gratification and that therefore such legislation would never pass. It isn’t meant to be taken seriously.

wolfsDad on April 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Exactly. That was Rush’s way of saying it’s all about votes for the Dems. Otherwise, they would agree with Rush’s proposal, LOL

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:35 PM

[1] Forgot his name. He died in the 90s.
gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Obtuary, 2002:

http://web.mit.edu/newsoffice/2002/lidsky.html

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Is that right? Why am I not surprised. Well, the ‘deal’ was put together by Reagan, Gorbachev and Thatcher at any rate.

I, personally, like Thorium liquid salt reactors. But then, I’m not a politician with unlimited funds to shovel out there for ready graft and political pay offs. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:34 PM

You know that’s a favorite, Ken. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Desperado – Eagles

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:38 PM

The Civil Rights Commission has said flatly that AMNESTY will harm the black community, particularly the young.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:23 PM

They need to get a hold of Holder

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Got Rum? hehe (:

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Evening Jackie :)

He makes fools look good, the impertinent thuggish hack.

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:41 PM

One of these nights

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:36 PM

There was no deal put together by politicians. That is complete horse crap. It was the normal sort of international scientific collaboration. There was an enormous amount of horse-trading in order to host the site. It wasn’t finalized until after I graduated in 1989. I can’t even remember how France got it. Even Canada was putting in bids (lol).

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

I understand that a number of black religious leaders are up in arms over the devastation that this proposed Senate bill will do to black and black youth unemployment particularly. Opponents of the Gang of Eight’s travesty should reach out to the black communities in order to demonstrate the harm that it will do to their communities.

onlineanalyst on April 26, 2013 at 11:20 PM

I didn’t know about the Religious Leaders speaking out. But I know that their unemployment #’s are high and they may rebel at the ballot box. This Immigration proposal may backfire on R’s & D’s.

You raised a good point. Our problem is trying to separate the R’s from this Gang of 8 or more since Paul Ryan is 100% in favor.

That could be a great point for Rush/Hannity & Levin to start discussing.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Yes. Funny how all those strident voices have suddenly fallen silent. I suppose they’re confused… having supported Obama simply because he’s black… only to find that unemployment in inner city areas with large black populations has skyrocketed under his tenure… and the Attorney General he’s appointed has chosen a different ethnic specific special interest group to champion…and , together, they’ve managed to set race relations back about 30 years or so.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

There’s one point about all of this that I haven’t seen discussed.

Illegals do “the jobs Americans don’t want to do” because that’s all they can do. Being illegal and all. Now once we “bring them out of the shadows” wont they be eligible for some better employment opportunities? Do we think once they obtain said pathway to citizenship, that they will be happy to trot back into the fields, for minimum wage? Or will they start to take other jobs (which are in short supply as is). If they move on to more gainful employment, who will do “the jobs newly legal aliens” don’t want to do anymore?

I mean someone is going to have to pick tomatoes and dry off cars at the car wash.

Paco on April 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Big surprise…your woman kicked you to the curb. That seems quite common with our trolls.

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM

Actually, and tragically, she passed away last fall.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Pardon my skepticism and cynicism, but did she expire from shock over the killing you are making in the stock market?

onlineanalyst on April 26, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Second top swine of the land

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

A good friend of mine was a nuclear engineer. He died of prostate cancer at the age of 50. I met him while teaching grad classes. He would have said that while the scientific community may exist independently, no major scientific project exists without government funding… and lots of it.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Rush was calling their bluff, LOL

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Yes..As long as I can hide it from Dave..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Already gone

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Slow Train – Bonamassa ( acoustic)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:41 PM

So very true, my friend.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:47 PM

You’re so right

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:48 PM

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

You’re on a roll. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:48 PM

no major scientific project exists without government funding… and lots of it.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Only since WW2. Came in with the rest of the socialism. And it destroys everything it touches. Look at NASA, probably the most blatant example. The bureaucracy eats everything.

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

I didn’t know about the Religious Leaders speaking out. But I know that their unemployment #’s are high and they may rebel at the ballot box. This Immigration proposal may backfire on R’s & D’s.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

George, African-American religious leaders press their case against gay marriage
Hm. Maybe it’s a trend.

wolfsDad on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Sorry if I offended you. I rarely post here but love to read the comments.

Those comments just seemed harsh to me for a conservative blog.

Barred on April 26, 2013 at 10:38 PM

…you’re ok Barred…post more often please!…the regulars know the troll types…like Chins says…conservatives are too nice…that’s why we lose!
…we have a troll here called DBare…a lobotomized idiot…who one night pulled at the heart strings of the people here because he lost his job…was unemployed for a long period of time…and was running out of his unemployment…and elicited a lot of sympathy here…and then… he moved out of his state to settle in the Bay Area… to find another government job and a place for continuous butt reaming…and soon came back here…10 times the azzhole and 20 times dumber…than before.

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Why would we ever consider him for the Presidency?

Happy Nomad on April 26, 2013 at 11:26 PM

I think the RINOS/RNC etal are going to repeat the same thing as 2012 with Romney. We won’t vote for the Dem, so whoever they decide to run, we’ll vote for them.

Whether that is Rubio or not remains to be seen. I’ve always thot it is going to be Jebbie with Rubio as VP. However, Rubio has now lost his luster over this Immigration, so there may be a replacement for VP.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

bw222 on April 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I don’t know exactly why he did so, but I do know that sometimes when relationships and principles collide it takes a lot of resolve to disagree when know doing so risks the relationship. It’s sort of a variation on the theme, “I could not love thee, Dear, so much, Loved I not Honour more.”

INC on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Jackie, I think this is one of their best.

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Shame on the Moon

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

I think they’ve underestimated just how angry and fed up a great many of us have become.

I won’t vote for a poor candidate… not matter who is running against him/her.

This was the last rodeo.

IF they think they can rely on forcing us to vote for a RINO, they’d better think twice.

Let It Burn.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:52 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Disappointing. Much better IMO: Train to Dusseldorf

gh on April 26, 2013 at 11:53 PM

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Musically, Seven Bridges is more complex, but ‘Wasted Time’ has far better lyrics and the melody is beautiful. I think I have to agree with you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Whether that is Rubio or not remains to be seen. I’ve always thot it is going to be Jebbie with Rubio as VP. However, Rubio has now lost his luster over this Immigration, so there may be a replacement for VP.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

I still think Jeb’s hopes will implode over Common Core. I think the word is spreading among parents who’ve been fighting CC that Jeb tied his wagon to it. The academic and financial horror will be well-known by the time primaries roll around.

INC on April 26, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Musically, Seven Bridges is more complex, but ‘Wasted Time’ has far better lyrics and the melody is beautiful. I think I have to agree with you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Lotta soul in that one. This is a nice live version too.

KCB on April 26, 2013 at 11:55 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Blue moon..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Schadenfreude on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

lol! Very good. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:56 PM

McCan’s REAL First Choice for Presidential Running Mate: Chucky Shoo-mah!

williamg on April 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Cynthia McKinney (Shelia Jackson Lee X 5)..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Yeah, but she’s only on 6th. You should get a load of the dude on 1st (expanded)…

Totally Batshit Crazy: The Six Most Insane People To Ever Run For President

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 11:56 PM

I like his voice. Great tune. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:59 PM

I mean someone is going to have to pick tomatoes and dry off cars at the car wash.

Paco on April 26, 2013 at 11:43 PM

You wouldn’t make a good politician Paco:-) You are a thinking person; the Politicians don’t think about the consequences of their actions. We want those votes now!!! LOL

They want us to think that only Mexican people from Mexico and those living here are affected. Keep in mind, many are from all Countries, including Saudi Arabia and other such areas.

bluefox on April 27, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Good evening/morning everyone, as the case maybe :-)

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:00 AM

williamg on April 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Good evening, williamg. You’re probably right in that these members of the political class likely dream of crossing the aisle to team up with a ‘dream candidate’ of their choice and form the ‘First Bipartisan Ticket’….

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Scrumpy sighting??!! Hello Darlin’!!!!!!!!!!!!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Spritely One! I’m so delighted to see you! I hope you’re well. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

I saw this today. I don’t think it made it to the headlines:

Some military chaplains trying to access the Southern Baptist Convention website this week were surprised to find it blocked with a message that it contained “hostile content.”

The problem left military officials having to explain to leaders of the nation’s largest Protestant denomination that it was an unintentional software glitch….

Ron Crews is the executive director of the Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, which represents groups that send chaplains to the military. He said chaplains need to access their denominations’ websites for materials and information.

The Nashville-based Southern Baptist Convention has 16 million members and Crews said it provides more military chaplains than any other faith group.

He said many evangelicals have become concerned since the repeal of the military’s “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy that chaplains and other military personnel who hold conservative religious views about homosexuality — such as believing that homosexual sex is sinful — will face discrimination.

“We’re just hopeful that the military’s going to resolve this quickly and that chaplains will be able to maintain communication with their denominations,” he said. ” … We want to make sure the military is not singling out evangelicals in some way that’s putting them in a negative light.”

Unintentional? Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Thrice is enemy action.

INC on April 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Hey scrumpy!

tom daschle concerned on April 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM

George, African-American religious leaders press their case against gay marriage
Hm. Maybe it’s a trend.

wolfsDad on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Oh, thank you! Will checkk it out. Hope it’s a good sign. I remember several speaking out about Gun Control.

bluefox on April 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Scrumpy is here! Pass it down!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Ken Jackie and Tom… I am well thank you :-)

Just totally cheesed off with politics…

Hope you are all well!

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Sloe Gin – Bonamassa

For Scrumpy… because this was the tune that got her attention with Bonamassa. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

What does it feel like to be sorely missed?

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Yes it did! How lovely of you to remember MG!

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 AM

We’ve all missed you terribly, Spritely One! I’m so glad to see you here. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Good evening/morning everyone, as the case maybe :-)

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:00 AM

God Bless you, Scrumpy!

For you and Jackie – another music legend passed away today: George Jones.

williamg on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

INC on April 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

I just assume Levin will figure it out. When I don’t know:-)

bluefox on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Always, Scrumpy. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Updated with some gratuitous Axe axing. I so heart him.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 11:59 PM

If he clicks onto that link, he’ll never be the same Axefellow.

wolfsDad on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Hi Scrumpy, with hugs.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Glad I suck around tonight!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Sad cuz you all missed me… :-(

Happy cuz I am back… :-)

All of you are just like family, I couldn’t stay away… no matter how I felt :-)

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

williamg on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

Indeed, truly a loss to the music world. We had a tribute for him up thread. He touched a lot of people’s lives with his music, directly and indirectly. A lot of good memories. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Excellent post..Crazy is like fighting..Just when you think you have seen the best..Somebody else comes along..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

That’s how we feel about you, too, Scrumpy. :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Hi Sophie and all the “Holder racists” on the thread.

Glad I suck around tonight!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Hah

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Hi williamg and Schad {hugs} :-)

George’s passing is sad… a great musical loss…

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM

LOL! Made me laugh! :)

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:09 AM

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Fat..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

All of you are just like family, I couldn’t stay away… no matter how I felt :-)

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Nice, but you can do whatever you please, and we grant you that total freedom…like friends should.

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

If he clicks onto that link, he’ll never be the same Axefellow.

wolfsDad on April 27, 2013 at 12:06 AM

The EYE!!!!!!!

lmao!

Resist We Much on April 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

As I was reading thru the thread, I was wondering exactly how many true R’s and Conservatives are there actually left in the party worthy of our votes?

I cannot think of many…

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

I got your back! You cover mine!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Workin Man Blues

gh on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Sparky, I need the Food Truck Thread Food Truck! :-)

Toast me up a hearty BLT!!! With mayo ;-D

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Excellent post..Crazy is like fighting..Just when you think you have seen the best..Somebody else comes along..:)

Dire Straits on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Lee Mercer. One word: Awesome.

Hey, Schad & Scrumps!

Resist We Much on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

He (Rubio) thinks I still care.

Jaibones on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Glad I suck around tonight!

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:07 AM

Oh, I really did do that….

KCB on April 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

I think they’ve underestimated just how angry and fed up a great many of us have become.

I won’t vote for a poor candidate… not matter who is running against him/her.

This was the last rodeo.

IF they think they can rely on forcing us to vote for a RINO, they’d better think twice.

Let It Burn.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 11:52 PM

I think there are many many voters more angry now than before the 2012 election. You’re right, they don’t realize it.

I’m just about at the L.I.B.

This Immigration if it passes I think will bring out the R’s, Conservatives & Indies to campaign against them; and maybe the Blacks.

bluefox on April 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Chuck Grassley and Jeff Sessions are in there fighting like gladiators for us, Scrumpy…and not only on immigration. Grassley has led the charge on bringing this rogue imperialistic administration to heel. He was the one who started getting at the tough questions on Benghazi, for instance. He fired off the letter, signed by a half dozen other senators, that demanded answers and he didn’t stop.

There are a few good ones left.

thatsafactjack on April 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Schadenfreude on April 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Thank you, I know…

I am deeply troubled with the news of late and I have been news free for days, and I felt great!

Scrumpy on April 27, 2013 at 12:14 AM

Good Morning/Afternoon/Evening/Night, as the case may be. I’m just imitating Scrumpilicious. ;-)

tommy71 on April 27, 2013 at 12:15 AM

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