Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on April 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

The [Gang of Eight] bill would … exempt wide swaths of people currently counted against immigration caps from any limits: The spouses and children of legal permanent residents would be allowed to come to the country on an unlimited basis, for example.

Thus, some combination of, perhaps, 7 million DREAMers, agricultural workers, and the newly legalized family members of current US citizens will be able to petition for their family members, further swelling legal immigration by an indeterminate amount.

And beginning five years after the bill is enacted, the Senate measure would create a new “merit based” immigration category with 125,000 initial visas (a figure that could rise to as many as 250,000 over time) that includes a path to a green card and citizenship, adding more than half a million potential new permanent US residents before the decade is out…

When immigration skeptics like Sessions and Roy Beck, the head of Numbers USA, add up the figures, they see a 50 percent increase in US immigration on an annual basis and as many as 20 million more new green cards within the next dozen years than would otherwise be authorized – and perhaps as many as 30 million more, according to a Republican aide.

***

[T]he road to permanent resident status that Rubio said would take a decade will take only five years for currently illegal immigrants who have done some work in agriculture. How many are there? Pro-reform congressional sources suggest the number could be 700,000 on the low end and 1.1 million on the high end. Congressional sources skeptical of reform say the number would be higher. No one seems to know with any certainty.

Then there is the other fast track, for the Dreamers. The Gang of Eight bill creates a special category for immigrants who came to the United States illegally before age 16. That applies equally to illegal immigrants who today are, say, 19 years old, or those who are 49 years old, or older…

Like agricultural workers, it is not entirely clear how many currently illegal immigrants and family members would be involved in the Dream fast track, but the total number could be in the millions — a significant portion of the estimated 11 million immigrants in the country illegally today.

***

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., a veteran of the last immigration fight, seems best prepared to counter the Gang of Eight. Just 15 minutes before the group’s press conference to unveil its bill last week, Sessions and Sen. David Vitter, R-La., held one of their own, featuring several law-enforcement officials and the head of the union for Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents to criticize the bill as amnesty over enforcement.

Sessions has also warned about the effect that legalization and more visas might have on employment opportunities and wages for American workers, which is an angle that one of the biggest advocacy groups calling for lower immigration levels will pursue as it tries to drum up public opposition to the bill.

Roy Beck, president of Numbers USA, said his group plans to concentrate its messaging on Alaska, Iowa, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, and Pennsylvania, hoping that voters will help push the senators in those states to oppose the bill.

Our plan is that it does not get out of the Senate, and we still feel fairly confident of that. It’s a big battle,” he said.

***

My thought is, maybe we should consider admitting immigrants who can succeed in America, rather than deadbeats.

But we’re not allowed to “discriminate” in favor of immigrants who would be good for America. Instead of helping America, our immigration policies are designed to help other countries solve their internal problems by shipping their losers to us.

The problem isn’t just illegal immigration. I would rather have doctors and engineers sneaking into the country than legally arriving ditch-diggers.

Teddy Kennedy’s 1965 immigration act so dramatically altered the kinds of immigrants America admits that, since 1969, about 85 percent of legal immigrants have come from the Third World. They bring Third World levels of poverty, fertility, illegitimacy and domestic violence with them. When they can’t make it in America, they simply go on welfare and sometimes strike out at Americans.

***

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard the following, both within my native first-in-the-nation caucus state of Iowa, as well as from my nationally-syndicated radio audience:

* “Rubio has gone establishment. He’s dead to me.”

* “Rubio is being played by the ruling class. He’s clearly not ready.”

* “My love affair with Rubio is over. I’ll never vote for him.”

* “Rubio is off my list for 2016.”…

[P]olitically he is allowing himself to be branded as another big government GOP sell-out, because he and his associates are struggling to make the case to conservatives it is what’s best for the country and not what’s best for the big government Democrats. The comments by Conant and the actions of some on his staff to scheme against the Heritage Foundation, maybe the most respected think tank in the entire conservative movement, only reinforces that skepticism. The amount of political capital Rubio has wasted already in this effort is incalculable. I hope he really believes in this legislation, because it might cost him the presidency.

***

“Immigration, broadly speaking, pits the elite versus the public as much as the Right against the Left,” said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, who spoke at a hearing on the Senate bill earlier this week. “It’s the church hierarchies versus the people in the pews, the union organizations as opposed to the union members, big business as opposed to small business. It’s no surprise that the Republicans supporting this thing are the ones with ties to the Chamber of Commerce, not ordinary voters.”…

“The only people in the room behind closed doors was congressional staff, big business, big labor, Silicon Valley, and a whole long line of special-interest groups,” said Rosemary Jenks, a spokeswoman for NumbersUSA, which favors more limits on immigration. “It’s very clear this bill wasn’t written to serve national interests but special interests, including the senators’ own special interests, with absolutely zero regard for unemployed American workers and taxpayers.”

***

“What eight people decide isn’t going to be the be-all, end-all for the House,” Goodlatte says. “It may be an indicator of where you can find some common ground, but the House, because it’s a Republican majority, will take a more conservative approach.”…

“I tell them that we’re going to break this all down into pieces that are more digestible,” he says. “We’re going to have a lot of hearings, and we’re going to turn this into separate bills. We’ll do an agricultural-workers bill, then an E-Verify bill, and then after the recess, we’ll maybe do some more. But it’s all a work in progress.”

A vague deadline, piecemeal legislation, and months of town-hall meetings, however, are what the proponents of comprehensive immigration reform fear most. There is growing concern by allies of the Gang of Eight that volatile summertime confrontations with constituents could make many House Republicans uneasy.

Goodlatte has little patience for such hand-wringing. As a former immigration attorney who has been in the House for two decades, he says doing things his way — a slow burn — is the only viable option.

***

I think it comes down to this. What kind of person do you want to be? Do you want to focus on the hopes and aspirations of the future, or dwell on fear and negativity? — to desperately clinging to the status quo? Do you believe that America has a bright dawn ahead, or that we must manage its decline?

Kemp was known for his cheery optimism. So was Reagan. In fact, conservatism didn’t really take off until Kemp and Reagan teamed up. And if you look at today’s most rhetorically inspiring conservatives, is it any wonder you find people like Sen. Marco Rubio and Rep. Paul Ryan — both champions of immigration reform?

The most vociferous opponents tend to be pundits and talk radio hosts, who don’t need to win a majority to be successful, and who have entirely different incentives.

I suspect this isn’t a coincidence.

***

Via RCP.


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Isn’t there a 3rd party that needs you??..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Don’t you mean a 2nd party or are you under the impression that we have two now or will for long?

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Good deal..*clink*..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

My poor immigrants — it’s a couple — pull down about $20 an hour minus whatever they pay for their “manager.” They’re doing OK for unskilled labor. Wal-Mart employees should do so well.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

$20 an hour unskilled?

Let me tell you..

They aren’t broke..

You’ve been had..

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Heteronyms don’t sound the same. Only Homonyms.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Holder calls AMNESTY for illegal aliens a ‘CIVIL RIGHT’

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM

It’s a daily occurrence; I continue to be astounded that these people are in positions of power in this country. God help us.

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM

A civil right??????

For cripe sakes we are so screwed

cmsinaz on April 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Guess the illegals have more rights than we, the American Citizens.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

She’s not dead. She’s hiding.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Oh, I have an embossed certificate from the coroner. And an urn.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM

You lie about everything.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Same here. Seems we don’t have 5 in the entire Congress that stands up for America.

L.I.B.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Sad but so true.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Homonyms sound the same but are smelled differently.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

A civil right??????

For cripe sakes we are so screwed

cmsinaz on April 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Guess the illegals have more rights than we, the American Citizens.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Yeah. If you’re white, male, you have no recourse. None.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

what’s funny about all this is that leftists and fellow travelers get Hysterical about the precautionary principle when talking about some computer model of climate change…totally non-rational hysteria.

here not so much. If the number is 11M or 33M, meh.

the real tell is that a normal leftist would start talking about carbon footprints and emissions. But, no…Sierra Club is way on board.

Neils Bohr used to say that in a paradox you could find truth…and the truth here is pretty simple isn’t it.

and Matt Lewis is just a sheeple…i’d love for Kaus to shred him sometime.

r keller on April 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

That’s what his mom told him everyday right before she put him on the short bus.

RickB on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

…mine only has two wheels!

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Sorry for your loss, UE.

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Thank you.

Do any of y’all find it odd that a recently widowed man would spend his time here lying, causing and receiving grief, and spewing crap rather than spending quality time with remaining loved ones, or getting on with life.

It must be an awful life being a libiot.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

It’s not recent, it’s six months ago. My participation here is down markedly (have I posted this week?) since she passed. My kids are older and have lives of their own which intertwine with mine but do not demand constant attention. We had a lot of quality time together in the fall but, as you suggest, life moves on. One has finals, the other a girlfriend, and I have a Friday night to catch up on e-mail and see what else is going on on line.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Illegal aliens mooch welfare when they don’t need it. Even if they did need it they are illegal so they mooch it illegally and don’t need it.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I have an embossed certificate from a coroner that says I’m the twister champion of the solar system.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

To the soldiers in all the cemetaries that died fighting for this Country…

*clinky!*

… You died for nothing.

:(

Seven Percent Solution on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

I can’t wait till America is just like Juarez. It’ll be GREAT!

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

They should kick Rubio to the curb..
Only then will the low info voter take notice.

Probably not.

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I totally agree! I can’t stand it when they say they are against this sell out but like Rubio. What’s to like about anyone that is selling our Country out? None, imo.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

Illegal aliens mooch welfare when they don’t need it. Even if they did need it they are illegal so they mooch it illegally and don’t need it.

Damn straight..

We have rules (laws) in this country.

Shouldn’t the illegals play by the same rules?

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I have an embossed certificate from a coroner that says I’m the twister champion of the solar system.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

In our jurisdiction, the JP handles that.

You lie about everything.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

You’re a bitter man. And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:56 PM

They commit two crimes. Mooching welfare when they don’t need it and mooching welfare as an illegal alien.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Forgot to give credit..
On my last post..

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Together Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity, with their wide reach, could quite possibly kill off this sell out amnesty simply by in no uncertain terms totally denouncing it’s chief spokesmouth, Marco Rubio. If they fail to do so they are as guilty in selling out America as Rubio and the other 7 gang members are. I believe this to be logically incontestable.

Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity have all gotten quite rich because of their loyal fan and because of America. And no, I do not think they therefore owe the government more taxes as I think they are all probably paying more than their fair share already, but they do owe their loyal fans and America who made them rich a lot and most of their fans are against amnesty for illegal invaders and they all claim to be too. By not denouncing and condemning the chief spokesmouth for amnesty for illegal invaders they are giving him cover and, in effect aid and comfort, and making it more likely that he will succeed in bringing down the Republic. If he does succeed it will be in large part thanks to them. What a way to say thank you to their loyal fans and to America.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

RUSH: Well, I myself suggested a similar proposal about six months ago, and I have repeated it over the course of the past six months. Very simply it’s this. I’ve told everybody in this audience. I’ve told the Democrats. I’ve told the media. I’ve told the Republicans. I, too, will support amnesty if the newly made citizens cannot vote for 25 years.

CALLER: Great. Yep.

RUSH: And of course there’s not one person who supports it, because the whole point of amnesty is registering them as voters.

CALLER: Wow.

RUSH: That’s the whole point of it, Patricia. You don’t think it’s big-hearted compassion that’s behind all this, do you?

CALLER: Oh, absolutely not.

RUSH: Well, good. Whatever number of people we’re talking about, and it’s anywhere from 12 to 20 million, both parties see them as potential voters. It’s all it is. The reason why it’s a death sentence for the Republicans, Patricia, is that the Democrats already get 70% of the Hispanic vote and they do because 70% of Hispanics living in this country buy — this is polling data here. This is not my wild guess. They say that they believe that government should be the primary source of prosperity. They believe in it. They believe in big, activist government involved in everybody’s life, 70% of the Hispanic vote.

So, essentially it’s two-thirds. Let’s say you have ten million illegals, seven million of them are automatically gonna vote Democrat. Republican Party’s finished. It’s a mathematics conclusion. It’s not any more complicated than that. And there’s nothing that the Republicans can do.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/03/19/the_limbaugh_amnesty_plan

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I can’t wait till America is just like Juarez. It’ll be GREAT!

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

It already is in many border towns. On the US side.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

If opposites attract then left and right should merge.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Opposites don’t attract, that’s a myth. Proof is the R’s have already merged with the Dems. Right?

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Busy leftist in full blown senelity= mccain.

http://mccaininstitute.org/about/mission-statement/

Power hungry pos. Whatever it takes. No values what so ever.

I never understood his star anyway. I prefer the pilots that shoot down, not get shot down. He’s bo better than kerry. Cindy sold beer, not ketchup. Same thing.

If he would have gotten elected,,

Him and schmucky is bad news.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

It’s all about race with you people.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I can’t wait till America is just like Juarez. It’ll be GREAT!

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

lol. My wife asked if I ever wanted to go to Tijuana when we travel to San Diego to visit relatives. I told her “we already live in Bakersfield, close enough.”

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

What a complete train wreck of bitterness and racism you are. That bile will consume you.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

You’re a bitter man. And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

What power do you have?

Seriously.

And what is the outcome of you power?

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I can’t stand it when they say they are against this sell out but like Rubio. What’s to like about anyone that is selling our Country out? None, imo.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

And what’s to like anymore about those who like him? It’s like someone saying they hate Communism but like Stalin.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

It’s all about race with you people.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Beep, beep, I’m telling Al, Chris and Jesse.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 9:47 PM

Yes we have two parties last time I checked..:)

PS..I just think you would be happier starting a 3rd party..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

It’s all about race with you people.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I believe it was RovesChins who brought race into the discussion. Or white people, since any immigration discussion touches on race these days, no?

Yeah. If you’re white, male, you have no recourse. None.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

What a complete train wreck of bitterness and racism you are. That bile will consume you.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I am remarkably unbilious these days.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

I have an embossed certificate from a coroner that says I’m the twister champion of the solar system.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

In our jurisdiction, the JP handles that.

You lie about everything.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:49 PM

You’re a bitter man. And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

You’re a lying sack of sh!i. I don’t believe you. And, I don’t care. You spill your putrid bile here and then want to play the victim. Choke on it.
Get bullied by any of the ‘protected’ classes as a white man and see what recourse you have.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

It already has.

Bile and hatred is all that one has.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

PS..I just think you would be happier starting a 3rd party..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Well it can’t be the “Death to America party” as Rubio has already got that one.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Sorry I’m late. I was teaching BMore graphics.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.
urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

It’s all about race with you people.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I believe it was RovesChins who brought race into the discussion. Or white people, since any immigration discussion touches on race these days, no?

Yeah. If you’re white, male, you have no recourse. None.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

What a complete train wreck of bitterness and racism you are. That bile will consume you.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

I am remarkably unbilious these days.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

I brought up white males in regards of civil rights and the reverse racism, sh!t sack.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Do any of y’all find it odd that a recently widowed man would spend his time here lying, causing and receiving grief, and spewing crap rather than spending quality time with remaining loved ones, or getting on with life.

It must be an awful life being a libiot.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

She’s not dead. She’s hiding.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Sad, but the good thing is her suffering with you is over.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Come on guys, I mean REALLY?

sorry for your loss UE.

Barred on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Sorry I’m late I was teaching Cozmo how to be a Texan.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Get bullied by any of the ‘protected’ classes as a white man and see what recourse you have.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I was hoping for an answer to my question..
Then you had to scare him away..
:)

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Its not often I have to look up a word.

I had to look up unbilious. The word doesn’t exist.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Sorry I’m late. I was teaching BMore graphics.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

When you’re done with that, try teaching word association and cause and effect to Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

What power do you have?

Seriously.

And what is the outcome of you power?

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Are you kidding? The entire Republican Party is after my vote. I have a little bit of money, and the emerging local political establishment and fading Republican Party are both trying to buy my vote. I have a deduction for my mortgage and 401 K, job opportunities, children who will be employed, cops have to be nice to me and I get good tables in restaurants.

I’m no one percenter, but it’s not like being poor and Hispanic.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

I can’t wait till America is just like Juarez. It’ll be GREAT!

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Come to Texas and you won’t have to wait. Those of us in border states know what’s coming for the rest of the country and it ain’t pretty. New freeway being constructed? Expect “tagging” by Mexican gang members. Live by a Home Depot? Don’t drive up in a truck because they’ll try to jump in the bed thinking you want to hire them. Want any kind of work done on your house? Pray that the “non-Hispanic” guy that owns the company hires at least one Mexican that can speak English. Expect the Target signs throughout the store to be in both English and Spanish too. And all of those are just for starters.

TxAnn56 on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Opinions vary..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Good evening, Cozmo. It certain has his personality… but his physical health will suffer from it, too. No one can be that miserable and hateful without it damaging them.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Well dangit! Do a better job. Almost 50 years and they still don’t accept me.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Its not often I have to look up a word.

I had to look up unbilious. The word doesn’t exist.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

sequipedalian man!

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

And there’s nothing that the Republicans can do.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2013/03/19/the_limbaugh_amnesty_plan

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Well, it sounds as if Rush is right. Maybe that’s why the R’s have decided if they can’t fight them, might as well join them. Then they’ll be happy with a few crumbs (votes) How sad. A bunch of begging traitors.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Sorry I’m late I was teaching Cozmo how to be a Texan.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

If you want a more difficult task try teaching Rubio to be an American, and Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity how to better recognize one who is not.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Ok can someone from Meghan McCain Rubio’s campaign team answer me this :
Why are we dealing with this illegal alien problem today again after the 1986 amnesty, which we were told was supposed to solve this problem for ever ?

burrata on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Get bullied by any of the ‘protected’ classes as a white man and see what recourse you have.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I was hoping for an answer to my question..
Then you had to scare him away..
:)

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

Anything that bag of bile has to say could be summed up in a fart.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Dire Straits on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Good evening, Dire! Wonderful to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I am remarkably unbilious these days.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Seriously unctuous though, yet still possessive of that vinegar wit.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Meh, when they go to places only to spew crap, maybe its all they have left to live for.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

lol. My wife asked if I ever wanted to go to Tijuana when we travel to San Diego to visit relatives. I told her “we already live in Bakersfield, close enough.”

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

LOL. I thot Tijuana was already in CA:-) From what I’ve heard.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

What difference at this point does it make?

tom daschle concerned on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

You’re a lying sack of sh!i. I don’t believe you. And, I don’t care. You spill your putrid bile here and then want to play the victim. Choke on it.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I expect no sympathy and expect not to mention it again. I was just momentarily annoyed at the “kicked to the curb” comment, and by the idea that I’d make something like this up on the spot just to — what, get points in a discussion that was 80 percent facetious anyway?

Get bullied by any of the ‘protected’ classes as a white man and see what recourse you have.

Who’s playing the victim card, you or me?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM

I had to look up unbilious. The word doesn’t exist.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Let’s be the first to define it.

Twerp was in a unbilious mood so she strapped on her new holster.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Are you an illegal?

Or have you been authorized to be here?

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I’ve been on here long enough UE to remember you posting in the time frame you suggest you became a widower, and I’m having a hard time believing you. If I’m wrong? Sorry. But I bet RogerB can validate.

You get outed on this, I will petition your banishment.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM

What’s wrong? Afraid someone else is going to cut in on your turf?

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:13 PM

If you want a more difficult task try teaching Rubio to be an American, and Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity how to better recognize one who is not.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Touché! Nothing but net on that one.

TxAnn56 on April 26, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Seriously unctuous though, yet still possessive of that vinegar wit.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

I never denied “unctuous.”

Barred, thank you.

OK, one more round and your pinata is going to bed.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

You’re a lying sack of sh!i. I don’t believe you. And, I don’t care. You spill your putrid bile here and then want to play the victim. Choke on it.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I expect no sympathy and expect not to mention it again. I was just momentarily annoyed at the “kicked to the curb” comment, and by the idea that I’d make something like this up on the spot just to — what, get points in a discussion that was 80 percent facetious anyway?

Get bullied by any of the ‘protected’ classes as a white man and see what recourse you have.

Who’s playing the victim card, you or me?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Liar. I’m glad you’re annoyed
No victim. Just talking about the sad state of Eric Holder and his civil rights campaign for lawbreakers. We don’t p,ay victim on this side.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

…how come when I copy lately…it pastes it twice?

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Clear your clipboard.

Solaratov on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 9:55 PM

And what’s to like anymore about those who like him? It’s like someone saying they hate Communism but like Stalin.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

No, I’m not going that far. I admire Mark Levin. Everyone has a blind spot and that’s his problem with Rubio. He had a blind spot with Michelle Bachmann when she was running for Pres too.

Mark says what Rush and Hannity won’t say and he’s very valuable to our cause. Mark Levin is a Patriot, so you won’t hear any slamming him from me.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

And any white male in America who thinks he has no power is a failure or a fool.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:57 PM

…paging… turdfreeorpee

KOOLAID2 on April 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

unbiliously, the charging Rhino tripped over a metal bucket and almost wiped out the Food Truck Thread Truck.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Seriously unctuous though, yet still possessive of that vinegar wit.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

I never denied “unctuous.”

Barred, thank you.

OK, one more round and your pinata is going to bed.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

A year or so of your rancid racism card throwing and were supposed to cry for you? No thanks.
Just go away.
Barred. It’s a liar.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

You get outed on this, I will petition your banishment.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Won’t happen.

Just look how much crap it was able to stir up in so short of a time.

Leftys can lie non-stop with out repercussions.

cozmo on April 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

He Stopped Loving Her Today – George Jones

A tribute to the late George Jones, county music great.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Sorry I’m late. I was teaching BMore graphics.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:04 PM

That’s too funny:-)

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Urban..

Are you legal or not?

You imply that you employ illegals..

If so…

You should post somewhere else..

We have no sympathy for you…

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Everyone has a blind spot and that’s his problem with Rubio. Mark Levin is a Patriot, so you won’t hear any slamming him from me.

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Well then you are helping him keep his “blind spot” and making him much less effective than he might be if he got his head out of his ass.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM

A Picture of Me Without You – George Jones

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I’ve been on here long enough UE to remember you posting in the time frame you suggest you became a widower, and I’m having a hard time believing you. If I’m wrong? Sorry. But I bet RogerB can validate.

You get outed on this, I will petition your banishment.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Seconded.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Date you became a widower? Lets bounce it off your posts. 6 months ago? I think you were quite vocal back then. No mention of what you suggest now.

I’ll state plainly. I don’t believe you. Prove it.

You do? I’ll flately apologize.

I think you lie.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

unbiliously, the lying liberal lied, apparently immune to the most potent truth serum.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Let’s be the first to define it.

Twerp was in a unbilious mood so she strapped on her new holster.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

yes. I made the word up. Someone full of bile is “bilious” and I was not feeling that way so I coined the term “unbilious” in part because it seems funny to me (ymmv).

Are you an illegal?

Or have you been authorized to be here?

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 P

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In the U.S.? Authorized. On HotAir? Probably not.

I’ve been on here long enough UE to remember you posting in the time frame you suggest you became a widower, and I’m having a hard time believing you. If I’m wrong? Sorry. But I bet RogerB can validate.

You get outed on this, I will petition your banishment.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I was more active through the election — it was more fun to focus on that then other matters. And I have posted sporadically throughout. But petition away. I will show Allah the death certificate next time I’m in New York.

What’s wrong? Afraid someone else is going to cut in on your turf?

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:13 PM

I beg your pardon?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

OK, one more round and your pinata is going to bed.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:14 PM

The reason you and others become pinatas is because whatever you post on a thread is always contentious and not designed to proke thought. Either you guys are socially retarded, a leftist or a-holes.

No one here agrees with each other all the time but rational people want to persuade and debate, not defecate.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

George Jones Passes

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

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In the U.S.? Authorized. On HotAir? Probably not.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Then why are you here?

You got what you want..

Deal with it.

Electrongod on April 26, 2013 at 10:23 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

You’re comment about ‘playing the victim’. You’re all about that victim card and always have been.

Now, gather up the shred of your remaining dignity, and apologize to those you’ve offended so often here.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Either way, coming here and splattering the amount of crap that UE unloads and then expecting us to suddenly feel sorry for him when all he does is lie is just SAD.
Go back to DKos. They’ll offer you a free abortion coupon.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

RUSH: Well, I myself suggested a similar proposal about six months ago, and I have repeated it over the course of the past six months. Very simply it’s this. I’ve told everybody in this audience. I’ve told the Democrats. I’ve told the media. I’ve told the Republicans. I, too, will support amnesty if the newly made citizens cannot vote for 25 years.

Unfortunately, that would never hold up in the courts and Limbaugh probably realizes it.

Hannity is pro-amnesty. Levin is anti-amnesty, yet he goes apesh!t whenever anyone attacks his precious, little Marco.

bw222 on April 26, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Date you became a widower? Lets bounce it off your posts. 6 months ago? I think you were quite vocal back then. No mention of what you suggest now.

I’ll state plainly. I don’t believe you. Prove it.

You do? I’ll flately apologize.

I think you lie.

wolly4321 on April 26, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Not sure what you’re looking for here in terms of proof.

And why would I backdate something like this if I had some ulterior motive (and what would that motive be?)?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

If you want a more difficult task try teaching Rubio to be an American, and Limbaugh, Levin and Hannity how to better recognize one who is not.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

I don’t know why you are on their case. Rubio isn’t the first Republican that has joined the Dems. There are many more. I’ve seen the Roll Call Votes, have you? Besides Limbaugh, Hannity and Levin do enough. Sounds to me like you have more against those 3 than Rubio:-)

bluefox on April 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Walk Though This World With Me – George Jones

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

The whiney liberal was caught making up words to sound smart, but unbiliously told everyone he did it as a joke.

SparkPlug on April 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

George Jones Passes

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:22 PM

I loved him. He lived about thirty years more than expected. Luck and genes baby.

I’ll start with this. Hope he he is in heaven.

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Either way, coming here and splattering the amount of crap that UE unloads and then expecting us to suddenly feel sorry for him when all he does is lie is just SAD.
Go back to DKos. They’ll offer you a free abortion coupon.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Again, no sympathy expected.

Au revoir, mon amie.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM

arnold ziffel on April 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Excellent tune, Arnold. I, too, hope George is in heaven tonight. :)

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 10:28 PM

You have no friends here.

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Barred. It’s a liar.

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I know, I’ve read many of his posts.

But on the chance he is telling the truth on such a serious matter, I like to follow the old saying “If you have nothing nice to say, better to say nothing,”

Barred on April 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM

I’ll Be Over You – George Jones

thatsafactjack on April 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM

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