Obama: Planned Parenthood isn’t going anywhere, America

posted at 2:01 pm on April 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

Some righties took it as a sign that he was running scared from the Gosnell trial when he “canceled” his speech to PP scheduled for last night. C’mon: You should know him better than that by now. He didn’t cancel, he just postponed it until this morning so that he could visit West, Texas, yesterday to speak about the disaster there. The most pro-abortion president in American history wasn’t about to pass on the chance to become the first sitting president to address Planned Parenthood. Although, true to form, he waited until he was safely reelected to do it.

Does this sound like a man cowed by news of a late-term abortionist, who received referrals from “respectable” clinics and who operated with impunity for years due to political opposition to clinic oversight, cutting babies’ spinal cords?

President Obama told Planned Parenthood on Friday he will fight various efforts to restrict women’s access to abortion, contraceptives and other services…

“Planned Parenthood is not going anywhere,” Obama said. “It’s not going anywhere today, it’s not going anywhere tomorrow.”…

Obama did not use the word “abortion” during his remarks, but said the “right to choose” has long been upheld by courts…

Citing efforts in some states to restrict access to certain services, including abortion, Obama said it looks like some lawmakers want to turn back the clock to the 1950s.

Even a guy who looks the other way at infanticide, provided it’s done “soon enough” after birth, feels obliged to avoid the A-word despite the fact that he’s addressing the biggest abortion provider in America. Maybe there’s an ounce of shame left in him yet.

KP makes an excellent point, incidentally:

Yeah, I thought the big liberal spin on Gosnell was that the horrendous conditions at his clinic prove that we need more clinics with less regulation so that poor women can have access to more reputable neck-severing services. Let a thousand clinics bloom and no one would need to visit Gosnell’s dump. How come O didn’t think to make that point today? He spent weeks on the trail pounding the table for more gun regulations after Newtown. When does he hit the trail to explain that the solution to the Gosnell problem is more chop shops?

Via the Standard, here’s his closing “God bless you” to the faithful assembled. Normally I’d dismiss this as rote presidential blather when concluding a speech, but from a guy who once famously said that he didn’t want his teen daughters “punished” with a baby, it’s safe to assume that he really does think they’re doing the lord’s work.


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Abortion is the Eucharist of the democrats.

happytobehere on April 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I’m now officially on his side on all issues. lester is a bright guy, and he’s 100% right about this topic.

rogerb on April 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM

LOL, nice link. ;)

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:20 PM

I’m betting it starts with ‘child’ and ends with ‘molester’.

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM

I knew a guy who prayed for the Midas touch. God granted it.

Now every thing he touches turns into a muffler.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM

lol

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Methinks I’m in need of some encouragement, after reading this thread.
My spirit, soul and body grieve in degrees known only by fellow intercessors.
“Rise with healing, Lord” is all I can muster, at this point.

Soon, please soon.

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I’m late, and this may have been pointed out…

…his closing “God bless you”

This is so vile. To invoke God to bless the murder of the unborn.

Normally I’d dismiss this as rote presidential blather when concluding a speech, but from a guy who once famously said that he didn’t want his teen daughters “punished” with a baby, it’s safe to assume that he really does think they’re doing the lord’s work.

I don’t think Obama believes in God, and I doubt he thinks they’re doing work for Him. As likely as not, he said this in mockery.

Also Lord as used should be capitalized, because it refers to Jesus Christ. Christians are the ones who confess Jesus is Lord.

INC on April 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

In the past I would’ve made Gandalf reference at the magnitude of his magical ability, but no more. As I’ve said repeatedly, I’m now officially on his side on all issues. lester is a bright guy, and he’s 100% right about this topic.

rogerb on April 26, 2013 at 8:52 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_284Y8Wu7c

You’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me
When the road looks rough ahead
And you’re miles and miles from your nice warm bed
You just remember what your old pal said
Boy, you’ve got a friend in me
Yeah, you’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got troubles and I’ve got ‘em too
There isn’t anything I wouldn’t do for you
We stick together and see it through
‘Cause you’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me
Some other folks might be
A little bit smarter than
I am Bigger and stronger too, maybe
But none of them will ever love you
The way I do it’s me and you
Boy, and as the years go by
Our friendship will never die
You’re gonna see it’s our destiny
You’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me
You’ve got a friend in me

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

But since most atheists are evolutionists, any appeal to a morality is based on chance. Which means the atheist’s morality is built on noting but whim.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM

No. This would be as wrong as if I were to state that most Christians in the US are conservatives, therefore their religion is based on politics.

Morality as a concept has been around for a lot longer than the theory of evolution, so it shouldn’t be surprising that many moral systems are not built on evolutionary theory.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Morality as a concept has been around for a lot longer than the theory of evolution, so it shouldn’t be surprising that many moral systems are not built on evolutionary theory.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Putting together a moral system with evolutionary theory is like adding peanut butter to tomato soup; they don’t go together no matter how hard you try. Or for an older comparison, like tying bunches of grapes to a thornbush.

The very basis of evolution is survival of the fittest and strongest; the law of the jungle red in tooth and claw. In such a system mercy is weakness and sharing resources with anyone outside your immediate family unit (if that) is a character flaw.

There is absolutely no room in such a system for even the most basic kindness, let alone to create civilized societies such as we have today. At BEST it is fit for Islamic theocracies and nations like that led by Attila the Hun.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Morality as a concept has been around for a lot longer than the theory of evolution, so it shouldn’t be surprising that many moral systems are not built on evolutionary theory.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Dude, you are not in your rightmind. Well, maybe you are.

Your assertion is classical non sequitur. I didn’t claim that all or many moral systems were built on evolutionary theory.

Most are based on a religion of one kind or another.

My point is the the atheist cannot appeal to anything concrete when establishing a moral theory. If all that is here is by chance so is a moral construct. Which means it could be something else entirely.

Atheists have no moral grounding other than whim.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Putting together a moral system with evolutionary theory is like adding peanut butter to tomato soup; they don’t go together no matter how hard you try. Or for an older comparison, like tying bunches of grapes to a thornbush.

The very basis of evolution is survival of the fittest and strongest; the law of the jungle red in tooth and claw. In such a system mercy is weakness and sharing resources with anyone outside your immediate family unit (if that) is a character flaw.

There is absolutely no room in such a system for even the most basic kindness, let alone to create civilized societies such as we have today. At BEST it is fit for Islamic theocracies and nations like that led by Attila the Hun.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I think I agree with this, but there’s enough ambiguity in “putting together a moral system with evolutionary theory” that I’m not sure.

I wouldn’t advise building a sense of what is right and what is wrong using evolutionary theory as the foundation, but I personally don’t find belief in evolutionary incompatible with the idea that some sort of objective morality exists.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM

The word ‘Marriage’: 0

I propose banning all marriage. Such impervious logic!

lester on April 26, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Dude, I don’t think the government should be in the marriage business at all. Marriage is a religious institution. Government’s involvement is a relatively recent development in the course of human history. In Western civilisation, it wasn’t until Lord Hardwicke’s Marriage Act in 1753, which was passed to stop Fleet Marriages’ (Fleet was an infamous prison in London), that government started regulating any sort of marriages and Jews, Gypsies, some Puritans, some members of the aristocracy and the Royal Family were not subject to it. In the US, it wasn’t until the 1920s that marriage licences were required throughout the country.

For most of history, churches or other religious houses kept the records of marriages.

I am in favour of allowing consenting adults to enter into contractual relationships governing their finances, assets, liabilities, children, duties, responsibilities, benefits, etc. Marriages would still be performed by religious institutions, but they would not be legally binding. They would be, so to speak, the ‘icing on the wedding cake.’ This is the approach taken in Europe, especially in countries with a strong Catholic history. Civil services are performed and weddings follow. In the case of Prince Charles and Camilla, they were married in a civil ceremony at Windsor Guildhall and then had a ‘blessing’ at St George’s Chapel.

BTW, if you were attempting to trap me on SSM, I’m afraid that you lose…AGAIN. I don’t oppose SSM, but I have to tell you, if you idiots keep pulling pranks like you did at Linden Avenue Middle School in NY, you’re going to turn me into Anitaf*ckingBryant.

Force my (future) kids to kiss ANYONE or even intimidate them into believing they have to and I will take your home, your wife’s engagement ring, your kiddies’ college funds, their piggy banks, their Buzz Lightyear underwear, put your ass in jail and, basically, rock your entire ‘My Progressive Little Ponyland’ to its foundations in a way that even a Japanese earthquake and tsunami couldn’t do.

I. WILL. DESTROY. YOU.

Promise.

:-)

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Dude, you are not in your rightmind. Well, maybe you are.

Your assertion is classical non sequitur. I didn’t claim that all or many moral systems were built on evolutionary theory.

Most are based on a religion of one kind or another.

My point is the the atheist cannot appeal to anything concrete when establishing a moral theory. If all that is here is by chance so is a moral construct. Which means it could be something else entirely.

Atheists have no moral grounding other than whim.

It isn’t a non sequitur; you said that for atheists, “any appeal to morality is based on chance”, by making the error of believing that their belief in evolution is necessarily what they base their morality on. That isn’t always the case, and it certainly wasn’t the case before evolutionary theory existed.

Evolutionary theory doesn’t state “all that is here is by chance”, it describes a process which organisms on Earth supposedly underwent.

So it’s not really appropriate to apply it to concepts like morality and say, see, morality only exists by chance.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 9:53 PM

This is the approach I propose too, but most people get hysterical when I suggest it, as if having the State divested completely from marriage would be catastrophic.

Sad.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I believe that evolutionists are created with a sense of conscience, meaning knowing right from wrong (morality), but somewhere along the line they choose to reject/despise it completely…..
Eventually, all sense of accountability to Anyone or anything but man’s reasoning scars that.

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I believe that evolutionists are created with a sense of conscience, meaning knowing right from wrong (morality), but somewhere along the line they choose to reject/despise it completely…..
Eventually, all sense of accountability to Anyone or anything but man’s reasoning scars that.

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

When I undertake an action, I believe that I am accountable to each and every person effected by that action, including myself.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

This is the approach I propose too, but most people get hysterical when I suggest it, as if having the State divested completely from marriage would be catastrophic.

Sad.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

There are good reasons it’s being considered only as a last-ditch measure to keep perverts from getting their way by judicial fiat.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Excellent analysis and scary as he!!

melle1228 on April 26, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Thanks and, yes, it is.

If that doesn’t scare people, this should:

In 2010, John Kitchen of the US Treasury and Menzie Chinn of the University of Wisconsin published a study entitled:

‘Financing U.S. Debt: Is There Enough Money in the World—and At What Cost?’

By 2020, Kitchen and Chinn project the amount of US Treasury debt that foreign governments will have to buy in order to finance our spending and debt will have to rise to about 19 percent of the rest of the world’s GDP, which they say is . . . do-able….BUT TOTALLY NEVER GONNA HAPPEN UNREALISTIC.

Whether the rest of the world will want to do it is another matter. A future that presumes the rest of the planet will sink a fifth of its GDP into U.S. Treasuries is no future at all.

Progs always say that we are 5% of the world’s population, but use 25% of the planet’s resources, which, according to them, is a very bad, racist, oppressive, selfish, and mean thing to do.

Evidently, being 5% of the world’s population and expecting the equivalent of the Coolies to build our modern-day railroads, which are known as Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, free college, subsidised housing, cradle-to-grave welfare, etc., by demanding that the rest of the world spend 19% OF THE GLOBAL GDP EVERY YEAR ON US TREASURIES beginning in 2020 while we sit on our couches eating Twinkies watching American Idol while our solar-panel-generated air conditioners are blasting away because “we are so trying to save the planet, man” is perfectly acceptable.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I wouldn’t advise building a sense of what is right and what is wrong using evolutionary theory as the foundation, but I personally don’t find belief in evolutionary incompatible with the idea that some sort of objective morality exists.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:46 PM

The problem is that evolutionary theory has absolutely no explanation for objective morality; we came from chance and our previous ancestors got better by brute survival. The best-case scenario is that early man stumbled onto objective morality by long, bloody trial and error that without it he had an exceptionally lousy life.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Darwinian evolution, macroevolution, is based on the alleged fact that random events occurred that resulted in what we call the universe.

If that is true, then any moral construct is random. I’m not talking about the way things are.

I am saying that the Darwinian evolutionist, which is what is usually meant when one talks about evolution generally, has nothing but whim upon which to base his/her morality.

Nothing. Zip. Nada.

Like pambi says, you are born with a conscience. That is so strong in each of us that I can see where you get the idea that an evolutionist’s moral construct is objectively grounded—–because it is!

But the evolutionist cannot appeal to that.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

Fair enough.
Praps I’m mixing up terminologies … been known to happen, on occasion.
:-)

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Evidently, being 5% of the world’s population and expecting the equivalent of the Coolies to build our modern-day railroads, which are known as Obamacare, Social Security, Medicare, free college, subsidised housing, cradle-to-grave welfare, etc., by demanding that the rest of the world spend 19% OF THE GLOBAL GDP EVERY YEAR ON US TREASURIES beginning in 2020 while we sit on our couches eating Twinkies watching American Idol while our solar-panel-generated air conditioners are blasting away because “we are so trying to save the planet, man” is perfectly acceptable.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Wordsmith.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

BTW, if you were attempting to trap me on SSM, I’m afraid that you lose…AGAIN. I don’t oppose SSM, but I have to tell you, if you idiots keep pulling pranks like you did at Linden Avenue Middle School in NY, you’re going to turn me into Anitaf*ckingBryant.

Bingo!

melle1228 on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Wordsmith.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

I have my moments, but RWM could clean my clock most days. One of the very best.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Good to have a president with the backbone to uphold the constitution against “small governmenters” who want their “small government” in women’s private parts and private business.

lester on April 26, 2013 at 2:17 PM

If it’s so frigging private why are taxpayer dollars used to publicly fund it? Want to answer that you worthless piece of human excrement?

bgibbs1000 on April 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Well stated, and I agree .. trying to follow too many sites at one time can get me into trouble, so I was playing it safe. LOL.

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM

When I undertake an action, I believe that I am accountable to each and every person effected by that action, including myself.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

But if you are a Darwinian evolutionist you have no grounding for that except your own personal whim.

As an evolved being I could just as well say your stuff is mine and if I have to I will kill you to take it. And you have no moral right/grounding to say otherwise.

Might is right.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 8:28 PM

One of my favourites and always profound, but it was written not by Dietrich Bonhoeffer, but Pastor Martin Niemöller. Like Bonhoeffer, he was a Lutheran and a founding member of the Confessional Church. He became a virulent anti-Nazi and was eventually imprisoned at Dachau. He only survived because the Americans liberated the camp before he could be executed.

Have you read Eric Metaxas’ biography of Bonhoeffer? It is the absolute best.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:16 PM

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Thanks, guys. :-)

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:27 PM

I’m not sure you guys even argue with these trolls. When the matter is pared down to its essentials, they are for murdering and indefensible infant in the womb. You can’t debate someone like that, they are beyond a rational argument, they disgusting individuals.

ShadowsPawn on April 26, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Darwinian evolution, macroevolution, is based on the alleged fact that random events occurred that resulted in what we call the universe.

If that is true, then any moral construct is random. I’m not talking about the way things are.

I think you’re hashing Darwinian evolution together here a bit with Big Bang cosmology, but that’s OK.

Also I’d like to point out that while randomness is a significant element in both of these things, saying they are totally based on randomness is like if I were to say that modern day Protestant Christianity is “based on crucifixion”.

If they were totally based on randomness, there would be no point in trying to understand them, because they would be fully random, and it would not be possible to describe their behavior. But we do study them, and we do learn things about them, because they aren’t totally random. But that’s beside the point.

I am saying that the Darwinian evolutionist, which is what is usually meant when one talks about evolution generally, has nothing but whim upon which to base his/her morality.

Nothing. Zip. Nada.

Now we get to the real point. If the only set of facts available to this person were facts about evolution, then I would agree with you, but this clearly isn’t the case.

Even simple observations such as “suffering exists” or “I have the power to eliminate or prevent suffering” or “I have the power to cause suffering” can be instructive in building a sense of what is right and wrong; clearly these are statements whose truth does not depend on whether or not man is descended from monkeys, or whether or not the universe started with a bang.

Saying that if you believe in evolution you have no basis for morality is like saying that if you are a baker, you can’t lead a moral life, because after all, baking does not tell us what is right and what is wrong, only what is white, fluffy, and tastes good.

Like pambi says, you are born with a conscience. That is so strong in each of us that I can see where you get the idea that an evolutionist’s moral construct is objectively grounded—–because it is!

But the evolutionist cannot appeal to that.

I would like to believe that everybody is born with a conscience, but experience has led me to believe otherwise. It’s OK if we differ on that one.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

But if you are a Darwinian evolutionist you have no grounding for that except your own personal whim.

As an evolved being I could just as well say your stuff is mine and if I have to I will kill you to take it. And you have no moral right/grounding to say otherwise.

Might is right.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:19 PM

And as a religious being, I could just as easily say it pleases Allah.

Sound familiar?

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM

This is the approach I propose too, but most people get hysterical when I suggest it, as if having the State divested completely from marriage would be catastrophic.

Sad.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 9:58 PM

I actually think that it would be most beneficial to those on the right concerned about the conflict of religious liberty and the demands of the homosexual community, ie, requiring churches to perform gay marriages, etc.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Thank you very much. :-)

Bingo!

melle1228 on April 26, 2013 at 10:15 PM

If they think that I’m kidding, they are going to be in for a very rude awakening.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Have you read Eric Metaxas’ biography of Bonhoeffer? It is the absolute best.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Thanks for the tip.

At my sister’s memorial service a lot of things came out that nobody knew. I told my wife, “Forget about trying to be like Jesus. Just try being like Pat.”

That goes triple for Bonhoeffer. A man among men. And he would object to that comment.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM

And as a religious being, I could just as easily say it pleases Allah.

Sound familiar?

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I said earlier that most moral constructs were based on a religion of some sort.

This link will show how to discriminate among competing worldviews and religions: http://clashdaily.com/2013/04/test-your-worldview/

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM

The problem is that evolutionary theory has absolutely no explanation for objective morality;
MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Evolutionary theory has no explanation for gravity or mathematics, either. I don’t see your point.

yelnats on April 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Saying that if you believe in evolution you have no basis for morality is like saying that if you are a baker, you can’t lead a moral life, because after all, baking does not tell us what is right and what is wrong, only what is white, fluffy, and tastes good.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Can’t argue with that.

(And don’t take that as a compliment or agreement!)

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

If they think that I’m kidding, they are going to be in for a very rude awakening.

Resist We Much on April 26, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I have known we were going that way for a long time. Prior to Massachusetts allowing gay marriage; I was a gungho supporter. The first inkling that I thought there was a problem was when a judge told parents who had sued the school that they couldn’t “opt” out of their young children learning about homosexuality and their relationships.

The fact that a judge can order you to allow your kids to learn “social issues” without a parental opt out showed that it was not a live and let live movement.

And it is getting to be a ridiculous movement. When you have the state of California passing a law that gay people having sex for a year and not being able to concieve can then be considered medically infertile; you know it is getting ridiculous. Of course, we did have a commenter swear for three pages on Hot Air’s own thread that two lesbians could biologically create a baby.

melle1228 on April 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

The problem is that evolutionary theory has absolutely no explanation for objective morality;
MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:10 PM

Evolutionary theory has no explanation for gravity or mathematics, either. I don’t see your point.

yelnats on April 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I think you just proved his point.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I said earlier that most moral constructs were based on a religion of some sort.

This link will show how to discriminate among competing worldviews and religions: http://clashdaily.com/2013/04/test-your-worldview/

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:39 PM

I watched it, and agree with most of it. I suspect I disagree with the speaker on a great many things that weren’t in the video, but it’s hard to argue against a belief system needing to have logical consistency and empirical verification.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I would like to believe that everybody is born with a conscience, but experience has led me to believe otherwise. It’s OK if we differ on that one.
rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

It’s all about where one places one’s faith, isn’t it ?

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Can’t argue with that.

(And don’t take that as a compliment or agreement!)

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

But it’s a demonstrably false statement …

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

To paraphrase Obama’s former preacher, NOT GOD BLESS PLANNED PARENTHOOD, GOD DAMN PLANNED PARENTHOOD!

devan95 on April 26, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Shouldn’t it be called Unplanned Not-Parenthood? Lefties and their word games.

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Can’t argue with that.

(And don’t take that as a compliment or agreement!)

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:43 PM

But it’s a demonstrably false statement …

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 10:54 PM

The reason I can’t argue with it is i don’t have a clue what you mean.

Bottom line. If your entire existence is based on random events, you morality is also based on random events.

Butcher, baker candlestick maker.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

The reason I can’t argue with it is i don’t have a clue what you mean.

Bottom line. If your entire existence is based on random events, you morality is also based on random events.

Butcher, baker candlestick maker.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Carpenter?

rightmind on April 26, 2013 at 11:08 PM

If I had a hammer … .

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 11:17 PM

“MOLECH bless you.”

That’s what President Baby Butcher was really saying because THAT is the god that loves babies blood.

Like the blood of Abel cried out from the ground so does the blood of 55 million murdered in the womb. Helped to their deaths by politicians like this.

Dear God, save us.

PappyD61 on April 26, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Dear God, save us.
PappyD61 on April 26, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Our only Hope, as in all things.
Just never thought/knew we’d be watching this LIVE and in color !
SOON, PLEASE, SOON !

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Hard on the heels of Gosnell, Lila Rose has announced that Live Action has a new expose series ready to roll out on Sunday.

From Kermit Gosnell’s “House of Horrors” to the “meat-market style of assembly-line abortions” in Delaware, America’s abortion industry has come under a spotlight it’s long struggled to avoid. We wanted to know just how prevalent the horrifying conditions and practices now hitting the airwaves are – so Live Action went undercover in late-term abortion clinics across the country.

From the most notorious abortionists in America, in cities in every corner of the nation, the testimony our investigators captured shocked even us. Now, it’s our duty to show the world how bad it really is out there. This is Infanticide: Investigating America’s Late-Term Abortion Industry.

The webite is Inhuman: http://www.liveaction.org/inhuman/

Countdown to First Investigative Video Release
Sunday 12:01AM

Gosnell is not alone. Videos document the blatantly inhuman and barbaric acts of abortionists leaving crying babies to die, or even killing the newborns themselves.

INC on April 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

INC on April 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

Yay. :-)
Thanks, I needed that !

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM

pambi on April 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM

You’re welcome. I was encouraged as well.

It’s great timing to keep the focus and connection going between Gosnell, Obama and PP!

INC on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Because killing babies makes liberals feel all warm and fuzzy…

Doomsday on April 27, 2013 at 12:38 AM

melle1228 on April 26, 2013 at 10:45 PM

The actions of the Leftist zealots also turned me from sympathizer (not quite a supporter, in some things) to opponent.

They never know when to stop (after having achieved their ostensible goal), but have a pathological need to push-push-push unreasonable demands.

This is true for abortion, same-sex “rights”, environment, economics, immigration — literally every social or political issue that exists.

AesopFan on April 27, 2013 at 12:55 AM

I think you just proved his point.

davidk on April 26, 2013 at 10:49 PM

ZIIIING!!!!

Well played, sir.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 12:58 AM

New Steyn…

The Collapsing of the American Skull

Resist We Much on April 27, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Obama: America, punished with a booby.

profitsbeard on April 27, 2013 at 3:14 AM

I am saying that the Darwinian evolutionist, which is what is usually meant when one talks about evolution generally, has nothing but whim upon which to base his/her morality.

I am saying that the Newtonian gravitationist, which is what is usually meant when one talks about gravity generally, has nothing but weight upon which to base his/her morality.

yelnats on April 27, 2013 at 4:04 AM

“After week of pro choicers saying Gosnell proves why we need less abortion regulation…..

Kirsten Powers

This after liberals/pro choice types want to regulate everything else? These subhumans are nothing but murderous Huns. This is a major red flag and another reason to get rid of liberals. They’re mentally deranged.

DevilsPrinciple on April 27, 2013 at 4:27 AM

Why is everybody getting so upset about Obama’s invoking the Lord’s name in blessing Planned Parenthood?

Satan is their Lord and God; the abortion mills are their temples.

BigAlSouth on April 27, 2013 at 6:17 AM

Satan is their Lord and God; the abortion mills are their temples.

How about, the abortion mills are their altars. After all, that’s where the mothers come to sacrifice their children to the god “Convenience”.

Mojave Mark on April 27, 2013 at 7:00 AM

Obama translated:

“Hell is forever.”

Lourdes on April 27, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Currently, Planned Parenthood performs approximately 300,000 per year, or just over 27% of all abortions performed in the United States.

I thought that I had ceased being flabbergasted by our current president. However, yesterday was a jaw-dropping moment for me.

My take.

kingsjester on April 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Obama: America, punished with a booby.

profitsbeard on April 27, 2013 at 3:14 AM

OH MAN! I am definitely stealing that and having it made into a bumper sticker.

Too good.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 8:46 AM

kingsjester on April 27, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Even a child makes himself known by his acts,
whether what he does is pure and right. Proverbs 20:11

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Mojave Mark on April 27, 2013 at 7:00 AM

They served their idols,
which became a snare to them.
They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to the demons;
they poured out innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan;
and the land was polluted with blood. Psalms 106:36-37

When you realize that, in the Bible, “Canaan” is a figure of the world in the sense of the flesh, it becomes chilling to recognize the parallels of our culture with that of ancient Israel.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Of course this guy supports infanticide. He doesn’t see children as human, but rather as piggy banks, but only until they’re old enough to vote, at which point they become piggy banks AND expected votes.

There is a distinct irony in the fact that she, a progressive woman, created Planned Parenthood years ago in order to prevent what she viewed as undesirables (minorities) from reproducing, and now, one of Planned Parenthood’s largest constituencies is, you guessed it, young progressive women.

mintycrys on April 27, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Under a section titled ‘We want teachers to know’, the guide includes advice that ‘that porn is hugely diverse – it’s not necessarily all bad’.

THIS is the BIG lie. Only a FOOL would believe it. It’s not JUST all bad, it’s all EVIL. Every last video frame and every last photograph and every last “novel”. ALL of it. It’s ALL evil. It is the opposite of love, the pinnacle of self indulgence, and it sows the seeds of calloused disregard for the dignity and the value of every human being. It destroys the sentient moral agency of the immortal human soul, souls that were created in the likeness of God, and reduces people to a level that is BELOW the animal. Prolonged exposure to the narcissistic hedonism of pornography ALWAYS results in the same thing. The outcome is the transformation of a human being into a freakish sociopathic humanoid creature that more closely resembles one of Tolkien’s orcs.

My collie says:

If you want to stand before God on Judgement Day bearing an uncanny resemblance to Smeagol, then by all means, use and peddle pornography. After all, I’m ALL for giving people what they want.

If anyone causes one of these little ones—those who believe in me—to stumble, it would be better for them to have a large millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.
– Matthew 18:6 NIV

CyberCipher on April 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

CyberCipher on April 27, 2013 at 10:25 AM

It’s good to see you two. You’ve been missed.

kingsjester on April 27, 2013 at 10:33 AM

God help us if this murderer-in-chief thinks he’s doing “God’s work” by murdering defenseless human beings.

avagreen on April 27, 2013 at 11:02 AM

They served their idols,
which became a snare to them.
They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to the demons;
they poured out innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan;
and the land was polluted with blood. Psalms 106:36-37

When you realize that, in the Bible, “Canaan” is a figure of the world in the sense of the flesh, it becomes chilling to recognize the parallels of our culture with that of ancient Israel.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM

This very passage has occurred to me over and over.
When I was a child, I could not fathom what kind of ruler/country would allow this…………

avagreen on April 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM

As a former CA native I’d like to say this in general:

Never, for a single moment, think that what they’re doing on a particular issue is benign or reasonable. Doesn’t matter what the issue is, it will be taken to the most ridiculous nth degree.

There is no balance on the left. There is no common sense. I do not mean that as a perjorative statement but literal fact. They will not just say “i’ll take this because it’s reasonable”. What they really mean is “i’m going to ride the crazy train all of the way down the road”.

It took me four decades to accept the truth in the aforementioned. I kept trying to see the logic, some sort of rationale and I had to finally cry uncle and accept that there is no linear logic. There is no attempt at logic.

There is only THEIR opinion. Opinion as a godlike statement. They’re so wise, so relevant, so cool and hip. So progressive, so wonderful…The pinnacle of middle school popularity.

No mistakes, no error in judgement. No possible way that they could be flawed. The right is merely a pawn in the game. Make the right do what they want, they win.

It’s a childish, narcissistic attitude and an attempt to merely remake the world in their image. Magical thinking, if I wish that it were true, that would make it so. Get that last point. If you know anything about human development, magical thinking belongs to the preschool years. Monsters and heroes, imagination. They have never left that level.

This is why they can impose belief systems upon you without conscience. This is why they don’t get the idea that if you spend 10 bucks and you only have 10 bucks, you now have zero. Instead, you only have to go to the money tree and it will appear. Some parent figure will make it happen.

So the inmates are now running the asylum. The children are running the school and our government. They’ve taken over entire states. Why?

Because the adults are too busy scratching their heads and trying to figure out what they’re doing like a dog hearing a high pitched sound. They’re too busy looking in the mirror and trying to figure out what the point is.

The point is: TO WIN. That’s it. TO WIN. To make anything goes, the norm. Period, end of story. Fini. They don’t care what it costs, they don’t care what it breaks. Self absorbed people don’t care about the impact, short or long term. They just want what they want when they want it.

Imagine a three year old, alone…with a box of donuts.

GeeWhiz on April 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

The Devil wears Hartmarx.

lonestarleeroy on April 27, 2013 at 12:01 PM

After ghouls like lester, “nonpartisan”, & Armin trolled this forum as long as their puny brains could, it’s nice to see some sanity.

22044 on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

22044 on April 27, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Amen, my friend. That’s why I said what I had to say to Armin, and left. he comes here simply to bloviate and Troll.

My own blog gives me the opportunity to expound on what I believe, without intentionally disrupting Blogs for the immature purpose of thread-jacking and attention-seeking.

kingsjester on April 27, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Imagine a three year old, alone…with a box of donuts.

GeeWhiz on April 27, 2013 at 11:13 AM

Pretty much sums up every leftist I ever met.

We’re the eternal enemy to them, the parental figure who points out, you can’t do that, and not expect bad things to happen…. and their reactions like the screaming spoiled brat in the grocery store, is to scream, stomp shake their little fists and bellow in rage how much they hate you for not buying the chocolate frosted sugar nukes they just CAN’T live without..

and these delusional narcissists are taking over states by importing illegals to do the things Americans won’t.. like vote for them.

I’ve worked with the public for 31 years, saw just about every human behavior, from the nicest, to the most diviant, and the most gut wrenching disturbing one?

Watching in shock as a 17 year old teen raged and screamed at his 5 foot tall mom to buy him his fav snacks and cereal in the most foul ways imaginable, while putting his fists up to threaten her with a beating.. this fat hulking 6 footer, when I and two other male employees stopped him, pushed him back against a wall, and told him the cops were coming, as one whispered what a serious stomping he was gonna get if he so much as even tried to fight..

withered and cried like a baby..

That in my mind is the typical leftist, all raging hate and demands, without any thought to wether it was good, or necessary, wether it was affordable or healthy.. as you said..

“They just want what they want when they want it.”

and will bully their way through no matter who gets hurt in the process.

never wrong
never imperfect
never immoral
never denied
never uncool

everyone else is their whipping boy. A cartoon cutout to be used as needed and beaten down when they feel like it. They are thugs, from the nose in the air academic to the union steward beating up an elderly female Tea Party supporter.

The old liberals raised their kids to be this kind swaggering bully, and now their kids are even worse.

mark81150 on April 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM

I nominate Barack Obama for the First Annual Kermit Gosnell Medal.

ChuckinHouston on April 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM

The lines that follow are also quite telling.

And was defiled with their works: and they went aside after their own inventions. [40] And the Lord was exceedingly angry with his people: and he abhorred his inheritance.

[41] And he delivered them into the hands of the nations: and they that hated them had dominion over them. [42] And their enemies afflicted them: and they were humbled under their hands: [43] Many times did he deliver them. But they provoked him with their counsel: and they were brought low by their iniquities.

pannw on April 27, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Then, now…

Gohawgs on April 27, 2013 at 6:16 PM

pannw on April 27, 2013 at 5:42 PM

We are headed there.

davidk on April 27, 2013 at 6:44 PM

pannw on April 27, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Absolutely. The entire Book of Jeremiah is the West’s epitaph.

Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 8:30 PM

davidk on April 27, 2013 at 6:44 PM
Cleombrotus on April 27, 2013 at 8:30 PM

Yes, and yet so many think it is all just a ‘fairytale’. I don’t understand how otherwise intelligent, rational people can be so blind. It is all happening before their eyes. Romans 1 alone should suffice. I pray they wake up before it’s too late.

pannw on April 27, 2013 at 10:15 PM

I noticed a certain Biblical being pushed here. It may be worth remembering that the Jews being God’s chosen people hasn’t exactly worked out well for them. And anyway, I am not aware that this certain “Biblical” view has ever gotten right a single bit of history. For instance, its history of Rome means utterly rewriting the facts of Roman history.

thuja on April 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM

CONTENT WARNING. Do not read this if you are easily offended. Seriously.

Hey thujackass, you worthless piece of road kill.

You said that an unwanted baby is no different than an unwanted puppy. You are right–if you’re an atheist. If God doesn’t exist, then humans are just animals. On the same ontological level. We just evolved. A cosmic accident. No concrete standard of right or wrong.

The logical conclusion that if —–but is it right or wrong to be logical?

An evolutionary accident.

So then, I assume you support Obama’s death panels. Who needs non-productive old people sucking scarce resources.

Speaking of sucking up scarce resources; let’s kill all the handicapped people. Who wants those societal drains. Seniors, too.

Then we can kill anyone who is on welfare. But let’s not waste valuable resources killing them. Just herd them into some blighted area of town and let them starve.

Do you see any degree of difference between killing unwanted animals and killing for food? Is killing for food better than killing for unwantedness? Better? Right or wrong? Who is to say? Sounds like a moral decision.

You eat hamburgers? Now there’s an unwanted animal. Well, except as dead and butchered and exposed to the proper amount of heat and seasonings.

How about we butcher all those people we don’t want and eat them. That way they wouldn’t be so . . . unwanted.

Has anyone calculated the protein content of human meat?

Of course we could put them in feedlots. We already have Ghettos.

We call cow meat beef; pig meat pork. What do we call people meat.

And unwanted babies. Just toss them over into the corner. They will eventually become too weak to scream and cry. They will quickly, and painfully, dehydrate and die.

Or should we give them a shot of something to hasten their demise. We would do the same for an unwanted puppy. You don’t like the way animals are treated at the slaughterhouse. Let’s be consistent.

Of course, to be logically and humanely consistent, we should anesthetize babies in the womb before we rip them apart. Don’t want to cause them any pain. But so what if we cause them pain. No need to introduce morality at this point.

There is no God. No Absolute Authority. To whose morality should we subscribe.

How about your moral standard, thuja, molester, armandhammmer–any of you who claim superior knowledge? Any of you who have an evolutionary superior intellect. Thuja, God of the Universe. Absolute Standard of Morality.

Any of you smart enough to tell the whole world how to live? You seem to think you are. You get on the World Wide Web and tell everybody the way things should be.

“[T]he way things should be” That darned morality thing just keeps popping up.

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 9:25 AM

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Very well said, my friend. Read yesterday and today’s blog, when you get a chance.

God bless.

kingsjester on April 28, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Very well said, my friend. Read yesterday and today’s blog, when you get a chance.

God bless.

kingsjester on April 28, 2013 at 9:28 AM

I wonder how many, if any at all, preachers today will condemn from the pulpit the heinous words of Barack Hussein Obama.

This day may well be the Omega Point foe America.

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM

It may very well be an awakening for many.

kingsjester on April 28, 2013 at 9:52 AM

I have to guard against wanting to prove a point. against showing that I’m right and the other guy is wrong. Of forgetting about Whom this matters.

We were quoting Bonhoeffer earlier. He was very wise man and wrote some compelling works.

But this quote haunts me:

“Discipleship never consists in this or that specific action: it is always a decision, either for or against Jesus Christ.”~Dietrich Bonhoeffer

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 10:17 AM

To paraphrase Jeremiah Wright, “Not God bless Planned Parenthood. God damn Planned Parenthood.”

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Very well said, my friend. Read yesterday and today’s blog, when you get a chance.

God bless.

kingsjester on April 28, 2013 at 9:28 AM

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I wonder how many, if any at all, preachers today will condemn from the pulpit the heinous words of Barack Hussein Obama.

This day may well be the Omega Point foe America.

davidk on April 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM

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I’d never heard of the “Johnson Amendment” before this presentation by Rev Jim Garlow, at the “Under God Indivisible” rally (at the High Point Church, Arlington, TX) last July. This rally was held a day in advance of Glenn’s “Restoring Love” rally, in the Dallas Cowboys stadium.

listens2glenn on April 28, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I noticed a certain Biblical being pushed here. It may be worth remembering that the Jews being God’s chosen people hasn’t exactly worked out well for them. And anyway, I am not aware that this certain “Biblical” view has ever gotten right a single bit of history. For instance, its history of Rome means utterly rewriting the facts of Roman history.

thuja on April 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM

As a former Roman Catholic and now-unchurched theist, I can guaran-damn-tee you that pro-life philosophy is not a uniquely Catholic thing. It’s not a uniquely Christian thing. It’s not even a uniquely theist thing. There are pro-life atheists and agnostics, and probably more of them than one might think. Pro-life is an affirmation of basic human dignity, which you seem to be lacking an understanding of.

Ghoul.

gryphon202 on April 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

For instance, its history of Rome means utterly rewriting the facts of Roman history.

thuja on April 28, 2013 at 9:08 AM

I’m curious as to what this one thinks is ITS history of Rome.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2013 at 6:23 PM

I’m curious as to what this one thinks is ITS history of Rome.

Cleombrotus on April 28, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Whatever it ‘learned’ in ‘publik skrewl’, inbetween being a lookout for the local crack dealer.

MelonCollie on April 28, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Ghoul.

gryphon202 on April 28, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Thank you your comments on this. Wish they could make some sort of public statement.

Luv the last word in your post. I’ve thought the same, many times.
Sickness of the mind is hard to understand unless this grouping is used in describing it.

avagreen on April 29, 2013 at 12:17 PM

No words on “The Children” here

RdLake on April 30, 2013 at 6:29 PM

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