It’s come to this: French Socialists attack “selfish” German “chanchellor of austerity”

posted at 8:01 pm on April 26, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

French President Francois Hollande is in a world of political hurt right now in terms of his failure to reignite the stagnating French economy, his flailing administration’s poor ethical reputation, and his attempts to simultaneously satisfy both his campaign pledges and his EU-promises, it looks like his party is thinking about deploying the ol’ unite-behind-a-common-outside-enemy tactic to try and rally the troops. That’s right: German Chancellor Angela Merkel, because all of these debt crises and austerity measures are totally all her fault, you guys! The Guardian reports:

French president François Hollande’s governing Socialist party has delivered a blistering assault on Germany’s chancellor, Angela Merkel, accusing her of causing the single currency crisis that has been tearing Europe apart for more than three years, of acting selfishly and intransigently in her own political and German national interest, and demanding a “showdown” with the “chancellor of austerity”. …

The French socialists’ draft paper contends that Europe is being run by a rightwing Anglo-German cabal dominated by liberal free trade interests with the rest of the world and austerity within the EU.

It calls into question the Franco-German alliance that has been at the heart of the EU for as long as it has existed and argues that France alone of the big EU countries has a government that is genuinely pro-European.

Merkel, as well as Hollande’s predecessor, Nicolas Sarkozy, and David Cameron come in for severe criticism. Merkel and Sarkozy, the draft declares, managed to turn a small crisis that started in Greece more than three years ago into a European disaster.

Yes, because it is totally the austerity measures that are causing these tough time and not at all — oh, I don’t know — the wildly, recklessly irresponsible years of spending binges that plunged these euro nations into catastrophic debt levels and the failed euro experiment, maybe? But Merkel wasn’t the only European leader at which they directed their anger; David Cameron’s British government took a beating for — wait for it — their “Thatcherite” leanings. Oof.

“The [European] project is today battered by a marriage of convenience between the Thatcherite leanings of the current British prime minister – who only conceives of a Europe à la carte and of rebates – and the selfish intransigence of Chancellor Merkel, who thinks of nothing but the deposits of German savers, the trade balance recorded by Berlin and her electoral future.” …

But arguably the greatest strains are between Germany and France, the eurozone’s biggest economies and traditionally the joint motor of EU co-operation. François Fillon, prime minister under Nicolas Sarkozy, Mr Hollande’s centre-right predecessor, said on Friday during a visit to Berlin that relations between the two had “rarely been so bad”.

This is all from a leaked draft policy paper that ostensibly wasn’t meant for public consumption, and the “Socialist party officials said personal remarks about Ms Merkel would be removed from the final policy document” — but the poisonously zero-sum mindset is all too evident.


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Mock at your own peril, little monkeys. Because the last time Surrendertopia mocked Germany, it ended in a funny man with a mustache marching through the Arch of ‘Triumph’ and making them sign the “we give up” papers in the same train car.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Leftists, the world over, are just plain insane.

Liam on April 26, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Socialist mantra – “Ce qui est à moi est à moi, et ce qui est le vôtre est le mien.” (What’s mine is mine, and what’s yours is mine.”

Steve Eggleston on April 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Be our slaves or we will call you bad names.

VorDaj on April 26, 2013 at 8:05 PM

And grasshoppers blame hardworking ants for being selfish.

rbj on April 26, 2013 at 8:06 PM

There’s a spitting, shuffling, Elmer Fudd character on OReilly right now.
Boston, really?

RovesChins on April 26, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Deutschland Report

The German Greens are having their convention and Ms. Merkel is getting it from them also. The problem is the stubborn popularity of the CDU which is leading the Greens to consider an alliance with them as opposed to the usual Social Democrats.

The top rate for tax being considered is a LOT lower than the French 75% soaking and even the Greens want to stay away from that. As a matter of fact, the French have really helped many here define their political ideology and leftward limit. Sort of like the Soviets used to do.

I think the Greens and others are considering a net worth tax but everyone knows it will not pass.

The Germans are having their Oscars tonight! They get a dumber looking statute but…(drumroll).. 3 million Euros to go with it.

The top film is a moody piece with some cynical looking kid smoking cigarettes with interesting little parts of Berlin as a backdrop.

There is also that complicated film which is also big over here but nobody knows it is German.

IlikedAUH2O on April 26, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Uh, the German economy is kicking a$$. Suck it, frogs.

msupertas on April 26, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Because the last time France got into a fight with Germany, it worked out so well for the French.

Gator Country on April 26, 2013 at 8:24 PM

So Germany shells out tens of billions of dollars to the smaller EU nations and Merkel is the selfish one???
Right….

Glenn Jericho on April 26, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Merkel, the George Bush of Europe.

Sterling Holobyte on April 26, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Chancellor Merkel and Prime Minister Cameron are the only ones in Europe that have half a brain. Drown them out, and its over. Face it, Europeans, you got lazy and messed up, big time.

tommy71 on April 26, 2013 at 8:29 PM

If the paramiltary force in Boston last week was instead in Paris they would of surrendered and given over the country.

Mormontheman on April 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM

French ideologues still worship our POTUS. I think he is slipping everywhere else.

The Chinese are bedeviled with corrupt government regulation.

Remember the lead paint on Chinese toys? China has a poison issue with domestic milk, that is right, milk.

Getting milk products for your kinder is a problem in Germany and Switzerland. It is a hotter smuggler’s item than drugs!

It has NOT been in our media but the Chinese have real problem with poisoning their own dairy products that dates back five or more years and had about a half dozen deaths in the first year alone. The Chinese don’t trust their own products for their babies.

The Chinese are so loaded with US dollars that they can suck just about anything from the world market and milk is the latest example.

IlikedAUH2O on April 26, 2013 at 8:38 PM

If the paramiltary force in Boston last week was instead in Paris they would of surrendered and given over the country.

Mormontheman on April 26, 2013 at 8:33 PM

If Germany pulled another 1939 without the genocide and steamrolled most of Europe, I’d be simultaneously laughing myself sick and cheering.

Their rule will beat Muslim colonization any day of the week and seven times on Sunday.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:38 PM

I have heard Merkel called Thatcher II by Euro academics.

IlikedAUH2O on April 26, 2013 at 8:41 PM

I have heard Merkel called Thatcher II by Euro academics.

IlikedAUH2O on April 26, 2013 at 8:41 PM

No joke? I freaking hope so.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:41 PM

German budget in 2010 – E325.4B
German budget in 2012 – E306.2B

Color me impressed.

Conversely, the Republicans have obviously forced austerity on Obama here in the US.

2010 $3.46T
2012 $3.54T

It seems the left doesn’t know what austerity means…though honestly I wouldn’t call Germany’s small cuts “austere” either.

18-1 on April 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM

If Germany pulled another 1939 without the genocide and steamrolled most of Europe, I’d be simultaneously laughing myself sick and cheering.

Their rule will beat Muslim colonization any day of the week and seven times on Sunday.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:38 PM

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Monday that euro zone members must be prepared to cede control over certain policy domains to European institutions if the bloc is truly to overcome its debt crisis and win back foreign investors. Read the rest of the article here.

EnglishRogue on April 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Monday that euro zone members must be prepared to cede control over certain policy domains to European institutions if the bloc is truly to overcome its debt crisis and win back foreign investors. Read the rest of the article here.

EnglishRogue on April 26, 2013 at 8:43 PM

*jawdrop*

Ohhhh yeah.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM

France & Co. has run out of other people’s, Germany’s, money and they don’t like it, not one little bit!

RJL on April 26, 2013 at 8:46 PM

*jawdrop*

Ohhhh yeah.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Some how i don’t think it will fly with the average German voter but who is the alternative in this? Der Linke? Ha!

EnglishRogue on April 26, 2013 at 8:56 PM

Seeing Euro-socialists quarrel with each other is almost as entertaining as watching jihadists kill each other off in Syria.

paulsur on April 26, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Release the Panzerwaffen……………

dmann on April 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM

Release the Panzerwaffen……………

dmann on April 26, 2013 at 9:07 PM

IF they go full-bore kicka$$ mode and IF they repeal some of the more odious social policies…I might just consider joining them.

Germany isn’t bankrupt, isn’t overrun by 10s of millions of Turd-Worlders, and might just have some fight left in her.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM

Seth Halpern on April 26, 2013 at 9:10 PM

403 “Forbidden” error.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM

NVM, it’s working now.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:13 PM

Brayam approved.

Conversely, the Republicans have obviously forced austerity on Obama here in the US.

2010 $3.46T
2012 $3.54T

It seems the left doesn’t know what austerity means…though honestly I wouldn’t call Germany’s small cuts “austere” either.

18-1 on April 26, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Heh. Life’s tough in these United States.

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:17 PM

the wildly, recklessly irresponsible years of spending binges that plunged these euro nations into catastrophic debt levels…

Actually, in Spain, Iceland, Ireland and the UK it was the banks, not the social spending (in Greece, it was the spending). Italy’s budget was in good shape before the crisis as well. And, of course, Germany and the Scandinavian countries support a fairly high-end social welfare state and yet have strong economies and reasonable budgets.

Conservatives see things that simply don’t exist.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Conservatives see things that simply don’t exist.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

So they considerably slowed their spending when the revenue wasn’t there?

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Conservatives see things that simply don’t exist.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

That’s because your boy-king’s fine ‘clothes’ are as nonexistent as your IQ.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Urban, also you guys are like magic:

Charles Brady, senior editor of the FOX Business Network, has put together a remarkable chart that clearly shows the Federal Reserve’s monetary easing policies are not going into the U.S. economy, but instead into the stock market.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/04/proof-fed-is-juicing-markets/#ixzz2RcfF4ExF

But you love it as the unemployment is essentially stagnate and the GDP Growth is treading water. You win!!

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Verboten is aufregend!

Seth Halpern on April 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

ist

Seth Halpern on April 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Maybe Francois Hollande can pretend he is Napoleon III…show those Germans a lesson or two. That little episode for France started out as a way to “humiliate” those Germans…

Berlin could use a good laugh right about now.

coldwarrior on April 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Against this backdrop, I am not surprised by the reaction of businesses. Operating in a highly uncertain environment, it is eminently sensible for them to defensively use their newly strengthened balance sheets to buy back shares and pay out dividends or employ them offensively in ways—say, in making acquisitions—that often lead to employee rationalization, not payroll expansion for U.S. workers. This is how businesses really think; this is the way people really are

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/04/proof-fed-is-juicing-markets/#ixzz2RcgB7gwX

But my 401k looks bigger….
/

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Chancellor Merkel and Prime Minister Cameron are the only ones in Europe that have half a brain. Drown them out, and its over.

tommy71 on April 26, 2013 at 8:29 PM

And that is the sad truth.

jimver on April 26, 2013 at 9:32 PM

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM

We have to put in somewhere given that this ride is going to come up short. I’m still stunned that we can not agree that ENGLISH is the national language of the United States……

auf Wiedersehen

dmann on April 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

This is just socialist infighting. Merkel and Cameron make Chris Christie and Jeb Bush look like friggin Founding Fathers.

Valkyriepundit on April 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Urban, also you guys are like magic:

Charles Brady, senior editor of the FOX Business Network, has put together a remarkable chart that clearly shows the Federal Reserve’s monetary easing policies are not going into the U.S. economy, but instead into the stock market.

Read more: http://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/2013/03/04/proof-fed-is-juicing-markets/#ixzz2RcfF4ExF

But you love it as the unemployment is essentially stagnate and the GDP Growth is treading water. You win!!

CW on April 26, 2013 at 9:24 PM

That chart doesn’t prove anything. It’s a joke.

And I have a good deal of money in the market (compared to most people, apparently) anyway. So if the Fed is helping my bottom line, who am I to complain?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Valkyriepundit on April 26, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Least you forget that all politics are local…………..

dmann on April 26, 2013 at 9:39 PM

Suggestion. If the French and Germans go at it again, let the U.S. STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!

GarandFan on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

And I have a good deal of money in the market (compared to most people, apparently) anyway. So if the Fed is helping my bottom line, who am I to complain?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

How much gas can you buy with the money you have in the market now as opposed to before the meltdown?

The market is up in dollars because dollars are worth much less.

talkingpoints on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Suggestion. If the French and Germans go at it again, let the U.S. STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!

GarandFan on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I repeat; if neither side has the objective to wipe out a race/religious group, let the chips fall where they may.

Three bailouts is ENOUGH.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Leftists, the world over, are just plain insane.

Liam on April 26, 2013 at 8:02 PM

That really is the unmistakable conclusion, isn’t it?

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

That really is the unmistakable conclusion, isn’t it?

Midas on April 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Liberalism can be rightfully classed with other mental disorders resulting in the “likelihood to cause harm to self and others” as the medical people put it.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 10:05 PM

This is funny to everyone who saw this coming years ago. As we see liberalism fail on a grand scale around the world I don’t think it will be long before even the sheep in this country figure it out when their Obama bucks disapear.

Ellis on April 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Cheese eating sacks of merde.

Mason on April 26, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Hollande to Merkel: Donnez-nous vos sous! (Give us your money!)

Merkel: Nein!!!

Steve Z on April 26, 2013 at 10:18 PM

accusing her of causing the single currency crisis that has been tearing Europe apart for more than three years, of acting selfishly and intransigently in her own political and German national interest

We used to have an alignment between the national and the Executive’s political interests. Sigh.

wolfsDad on April 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

And grasshoppers blame hardworking ants for being selfish.

rbj on April 26, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Some 30 or 40 years ago now, the re-written versions of this fable started showing up in kids’ books. The “grasshoppers” (sometimes the actors were mice, or bulls, or other animals) were presented as musicians or artists who should be exempt from icky manual labor because they could provide joy and good cheer during the hard winter, and the “ants”, after converting from their hard-hearted miserliness, were depicted as their grateful audiences.

Cute stuff, and could even be used to show that one should appreciate the law of comparative advantage in the economic value of different talents, so long as the exchange of food-surplus for entertainment was voluntary.

(Never-mind that the original story was intended to teach the lessons “work before play if you want to survive” and “failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on my part”.)

In fact, the real-world analog has been a forced exchange of goods (via taxes) for benefits selected by the exchangers, not the producers.

I had a sick feeling, back then, that we were starting down the slope.

AesopFan on April 27, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Mock at your own peril, little monkeys. Because the last time Surrendertopia mocked Germany, it ended in a funny man with a mustache marching through the Arch of ‘Triumph’ and making them sign the “we give up” papers in the same train car.

MelonCollie on April 26, 2013 at 8:02 PM

you know why France planted oak trees on the main road … they knew
Germans like to march in the shade ….

conservative tarheel on April 27, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Socialists don’t like or understand Capitalism — how the free market and competition (they hate that, too) decides winners and losers. They want a point system to replace currency, where Big Government decides winners and losers, not individuals (oh, but don’t you know, everyone will be a winner with Big Government! Then we can all live in villas on Lake Como!). That oughta work out well (we’ll get it right this time; we’re the ones we’ve been waiting for!).

RobertMN on April 27, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Suggestion. If the French and Germans go at it again, let the U.S. STAY THE HELL OUT OF IT!

GarandFan on April 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Would make for interesting discussions at NATO HQ.

Barnestormer on April 27, 2013 at 8:28 AM

So if the Fed is helping my bottom line, who am I to complain?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Are you familiar with the concept of a bubble?

Odysseus on April 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM

France is getting close to joining Spain and Greece…

albill on April 27, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Qualifying Statement: I’m Irish and Portuguese

(Boston and Fall River……Could it be worse?

So how did the Germans ever get the idea that all of the people from the warmer climates, who could never duplicate their work ethic, should have billions of Marks (remember those?) and then Euros lent them? And 13 years ago when Dublin said (paraphrasing here) “We’re really more Boston than Bonn,” why didn’t the Germans retreat from this mess?

The answer is the destructive path of Diversity Worship, and it will destroy the West if we do not pull back.

Shaughnessy on April 27, 2013 at 11:19 AM

When German Chancellor Angela Merkel offered no response, French President Francois Hollande added, “Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time!”

Knott Buyinit on April 27, 2013 at 11:19 AM

So if the Fed is helping my bottom line, who am I to complain?

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Aren’t you the one who keeps saying that we see things that aren’t there with Socialism? You wouldn’t want to discuss the obvious uniqueness of the Nordic countrys’ demographics, population density, energy independence, high percentage of hydroelectric power, far fewer and smaller cities and sparsely populated rural interior, very high taxation, etc…etc…etc?

Yet, even they are having sustainability problems…hmmmmm. See: The Danish.

Are you familiar with the concept of a bubble?

Odysseus on April 27, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Evidently, not.

98ZJUSMC on April 27, 2013 at 11:20 AM

the Scandinavian countries support a fairly high-end social welfare state and yet have strong economies and reasonable budgets.

Conservatives see things that simply don’t exist.

urban elitist on April 26, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Dream on

F-

but you knew that…

NapaConservative on April 27, 2013 at 11:25 AM

The market is up in dollars because dollars are worth much less.

talkingpoints on April 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Trying to explain basic economics to a liberal reminds me of something Mark Twain once said:

“Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and annoys the pig.”

Which, calling Urban Idiot a pig, is an insult to pigs. Sorry, pigs.

psrch on April 27, 2013 at 12:43 PM

And if the tables were turned and it was YOUR citizens and nations currency being demanded to prop up Germany and a whole slew of other countries you’d be playing the selfish, self concerned, French a**hole act.

You can’t demand another nation bail you out with their own money you had nothing to do with making.

Absolutely deluded. Someone needs a swift kick in the nuts.

Genuine on April 27, 2013 at 2:29 PM

In other news, dad won’t buy me a new Convertible… he’s a meanie.

What? This isn’t a comparable assessment?

One side is seeing the world through adult eyes where money borrowed and spent eventually has to be paid back by someone; and the other side wants money forever with no strings or limitations hoping the problem will simply go away with magic.. right?

I think the response is clear… Grow the hell up.

gekkobear on April 28, 2013 at 1:23 AM