McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway

posted at 5:21 pm on April 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

Straight talk.

“I believe if we pass this legislation, it won’t gain us a single Hispanic vote, but what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete. Right now we can’t compete,” he said at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “The numbers in the last couple of elections authenticate that statement…

“I would just try to show my friends, particularly in states like mine and the state of Texas where the demographics should be convincing,” he said. “Six or eight years from now we will have if not a majority, a near to majority Hispanic population in my state. So it is a demographic certainty, that if we condemn ourselves to 15 or 20 percent of the Hispanic vote, we will not win elections.”

Forget all the stuff you know about polls showing that Latinos support ObamaCare, gay marriage, bigger government, and various and sundry other policies that most conservatives oppose. Forget all the electoral arguments. If this is Maverick’s core rationale for passing the Gang of Eight bill, that the GOP simply can’t remain competitive without a grand pander on immigration, then it really doesn’t matter what the details of the final bill are, right? From his standpoint, the policy implications of the bill are entirely irrelevant. If Schumer turned around tomorrow and demanded a blanket amnesty with zero border security and was somehow able to convince McCain that Republicans would win more Latino votes — eventually — by adopting that position than they’d lose from disaffected conservatives walking away, McCain would presumably be all for it. Whatever you think of Rubio, give him credit at least for having the basic common sense to insist that he supports the Gang of Eight bill on the merits, because it’s the “right thing to do,” not out of some transparent, half-assed electoral calculus that encourages border hawks to chow down on whatever crap liberals are serving up on a plate. Good lord.

To cleanse your palate of McCain’s pandering, watch GOP House Judiciary Chair Bob Goodlatte hint strongly that he’s going to slow the bill down in the House. The good stuff starts at 2:30. Needless to say, although he wields influence as Judiciary chair, Goodlatte’s not the final arbiter on how quickly this moves through the House. There are heavy hitters, starting with Paul Ryan, who’d prefer to see amnesty taken care of sooner rather than later. Which side Boehner ends up on probably depends on how much of an outcry there is among grassroots conservatives. But if you dislike the Gang of Eight bill — which you should, if you’re serious about border security — this guy may well be your best hope to avoid a congressional rubber-stamp by panicky, pander-minded Republicans. One step at a time:

House Republicans will take on the immigration issue in bite-size pieces, shunning pressure to act quickly and rejecting the comprehensive approach embraced in the Senate, a key committee chairman said Thursday.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., declined to commit to finishing immigration legislation this year, as President Barack Obama and a bipartisan group in the Senate want to do. He said bills on an agriculture worker program and workplace enforcement would come first, and he said there’d been no decision on how to deal with legalization or a possible path to citizenship for the estimated 11 million immigrants living here illegally, a centerpiece of a new bipartisan bill in the Senate…

He said that while he hopes to produce a bill this year, “I’m going to be very cautious about setting any kind of arbitrary limits on when this has to be done.”…

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., said Thursday that in the wake of three days of hearings on the Senate immigration bill, his committee will begin to amend and vote on the legislation May 9.

He’s not flatly rejecting the idea of a single comprehensive House bill — insisting on a bunch of piecemeal bills would kill immigration reform outright — but he does seem committed to hearings for each individual component, which will slow things down and give opposition time to gel (and to settle on a strategy). “By taking a fine-toothed comb through each of the individual issues within the larger immigration debate, it’ll help us get a better bill that will benefit Americans and provide a workable immigration system,” he said, which is essentially the opposite of what Senate Democrats want and what their easily-rolled allies in the Senate GOP are willing to accept.

Here’s Goodlatte’s problem, though: If this bill passes the Senate with a sizable number of Republican votes, something both Schumer and McCain claim is distinctly possible, how willing will he and Boehner be to go to the mat to delay a vote in the name of holding further hearings? Two more polls out today show support for reform, and it’s the House GOP more so than Senate Republicans that’s worried about losing ground in the midterms. Will Goodlatte continue to insist on the go-slow approach if the Senate passes something with 70 votes and every prominent establishment Republican in the country starts screeching at them to hurry up and pass something before the Democrats start to make hay of the delay in 2014? Hmmmm.


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Time for McCain to RETIRE!

GarandFan on April 25, 2013 at 5:23 PM

McCain’s family of admirals would recognize him today as the treasonous enemy of America that he is. And they would be damned disappointed that their name is being carried on in this fashion.

beatcanvas on April 25, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Personal anger level: DEFCON McCAIN

Obama: ‘Win One For Shrub!’

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway.

Why, to insure decades of Democrat dominance?

antipc on April 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM

“McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway”

More of the usual lying BS from McRINO. Several studies show that ILLEGALS will have a major influence in Arizona elections if amnesty/citizenship is granted (i.e., even more than the massive fraudulent voting of ILLEGALS now.) McRINO, The FLAKE and Rubio – three of the eight Quislings – all hope to benefit from these (former) ILLEGALS criminal votes.

Enough is enough – it’s time to EXCOMMUNICATE AMNESTY-JOHN McRINO from the Repub party.
On second thought, excommunicatin is too good for this scumbag – he should be projectile vomited out of the party.

TeaPartyNation on April 25, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Which side Boehner ends up on probably depends on how much of an outcry there is among grassroots conservatives.

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Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 5:27 PM

McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway

Uh oh – if McCain keeps this up, Rubio isn’t going to sell him any more of his dirty jockstraps – and there will be absolutely no more hot-tubbing.

Pork-Chop on April 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

“I would just try to show my friends

GAG at “my friends”.

SouthernGent on April 25, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Marco Rubio said that he could personally convince latinos to be Republican.

I whole heartedly trust Rubio to be able to do this.

portlandon on April 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway

McCain proves that you can simultaneously be right and an idiot.

What’s Rubio’s excuse?

MaiDee on April 25, 2013 at 5:35 PM

“I believe if we pass this legislation, it won’t gain us a single Hispanic vote, but what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete.

He starts be making two exactly contradictory statements in two successive sentences.

Right now we can’t compete,” he said at a breakfast hosted by the Christian Science Monitor. “The numbers in the last couple of elections authenticate that statement…

Which set? If the last two elections have taught us anything, it’s that pollsters and Boards of Election don’t concern themselves with reality any more. Just with delivering whatever numbers their clients are paying for.

“I would just try to show my friends, particularly in states like mine and the state of Texas where the demographics should be convincing,” he said. “Six or eight years from now we will have if not a majority, a near to majority Hispanic population in my state. So it is a demographic certainty, that if we condemn ourselves to 15 or 20 percent of the Hispanic vote, we will not win elections.

According to who? Are we to believe that Hispanic Americans who came here the hard way are now demanding that every illegal alien not only be allowed to stay, but be given citizenship and the franchise?

This sounds to me less like a principled statement, and more like McCain demanding that we accede to the wishes of the far-left wing of the Democratic Party simply so he can stay in their good graces and remain the MSM’s favorite RINO. And incidentally, make sure he has enough “undocumented voters” to make up for all the GOP voters in AZ who have had all they can take of him.

Dear John. Give it up. Retire while you still have some shreds of dignity left.

If, instead, you insist on dragging the entire country into a single-party state, Bizarro-world nightmare just so you can keep on being a mover and shaker, GTH.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Reform the dang immigration!

Sammo21 on April 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Check out the group photos of the gang of 8. Only the democrats are smiling or is that smirking?

Nomas on April 25, 2013 at 5:38 PM

McCain… STUCK ON STUPID!

dominigan on April 25, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Just give the public some time to see what’s in the bill and watch public opinion turn. Why else rush it?

The public is always supportive of concepts, it’s the

details

that turn public opinion.

Charlemagne on April 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Oops.

Charlemagne on April 25, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Thank YOU, Arizona voters!

ladyingray on April 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

If we can’t garner Hispanic votes isn’t that a strong argument against increasing their percentage of the population via immigration? Isn’t it a strong argument for increased internal and border security?

McCain is almost as much a menace to this country as Ted Kennedy.

Charlemagne on April 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

“But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother.”

Bat Chain Puller on April 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

My friends….

You don’t have to be afraid of the Hispanic vote.

Curtiss on April 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

If McCain were the slightest bit honest…

Oh, never mind.

It is all the same party anymore.

At least the Dems are honest about being progressive thugs.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Boehner won’t be able to pass the Senate bill or something very similar with a majority of Republicans so by breaking it up he can pass some measures with the majority of his party and others without. There will be less outrage from the conservative base in the latter scenario.

Wigglesworth on April 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

The system will work.

/s

aquaviva on April 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Bat Chain Puller on April 25, 2013 at 5:47 PM

+1000

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 5:51 PM

I’m looking forward to the Dem takeover of the House. Then the fun begins.

What did I tell you?

The GOP will betray you

True_King on April 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

New definition of dementia – mcrino!

Lewfarge on April 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway

Please send someone over to my house to pound nails into my skull.

The relentless stupidity of the GOP is too much.

I just want it to be over.

Bruno Strozek on April 25, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Just look at this cadre of buffoons and their wives.

And caption this:

tom daschle concerned on April 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

The McCain philosophy :
If it helps Idi Hussein , then support it.

The Hussein philosophy :
If it harms USA, then do it .

Since McCain supports Hussein on amnesty ……

burrata on April 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Why is this the right thing to do? This part is confusing. And I wish some reporter would ask McCain why these millions of new Hispanic voters will be Democrats? I mean, we all know, but I’d like to hear him say it.

Dongemaharu on April 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM

None it matters, the government won’t enforce the law anyway.

Tater Salad on April 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Oh, and is it Hispanic or Latino,…or can I just say Mexicans?

Dongemaharu on April 25, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Sen. McCain “Just build the danged fence”
” it won’t gain us a single Hispanic vote”
” it won’t gain us a single Chechen vote”

fourdeucer on April 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

This country is done. Put a fork in it.

Mirimichi on April 25, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Boehner won’t be able to pass the Senate bill or something very similar with a majority of Republicans so by breaking it up he can pass some measures with the majority of his party and others without. There will be less outrage from the conservative base in the latter scenario.

Wigglesworth on April 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

If John Boehner believes that he will avoid outrage from the conservative base by passing immigration reform – in whole or in parts – without a majority of his party, he needs to resign and commit himself to a mental institution that will also threat his alcoholism.

“Hastert Rule? What’s that? There is NO Hastert Rule in MY House! Besides, it was ‘never a rule to begin with.’”

- Speaker John Boehner

He has already violated the Hastert Rule and passed the ‘fiscal cliff’ deal/tax hikes and the $70 billion Sandy-Pork Act without a majority of Republican votes. If he does the same with immigration, the ‘conservative base’ may, in fact, be the least of his worries. There might just be a full-fledged mutiny in the House.

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The question that needs to be asked is “why would we allow people who broke our laws ant sort of voting status”? If we don’t stand for law and order then nothing else matters.

Tater Salad on April 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

McCain can move along any time now. I expect he craps his pants without knowing it regularly up there while struggling to put a sentence together, and the Senate is polite enough not to mention it.

This embarrassing spectacle of a sh1twit is long past his expiration date, and spent any honor and respect he earned long ago.

Go the hell away, you piece of sh1t.

Midas on April 25, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Take a hike McCain.

rplat on April 25, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Dear John. Give it up. Retire while you still have some shreds of dignity left.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 25, 2013 at 5:36 PM

*Way* to f*cking late for that.

Midas on April 25, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Thank YOU, Arizona voters!

ladyingray on April 25, 2013 at 5:44 PM

I was one of many who tried to primary him. I apologize on behalf of the idiots in my state who reelected him.

JannyMae on April 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

“So it is a demographic certainty, that if we condemn ourselves to 15 or 20 percent of the Hispanic vote, we will not win elections.”

I was just thinking of all those who gave their lives fighting for this Country, the Constitution, the Rule of Law, it’s Citizens, our Representative Republic, and the security of our borders…

… Now there is legislation moving through Congress that will make each and everyone of those lives lost wasted.

The moment the bill is signed into law, every single illegal will be eligible for a temporary work visa, which will allow them to get a driver’s license, which under ‘Motor-Voter’ will register them to vote…

Immediately!

Not 5 or 10 years down the road, after they have payed a fine, and back taxes, and taken some history class, blah, blah, blah, blah… IMMEDIATELY!

The border will not be secured, and effectively, all border security and immigration laws will be moot…

… The flood of immigrants into this Country from all over the world will change the demographics over night.

Democrats will have them sign up for every welfare and public assistance program available…

… I can’t believe this is happening.

Seven Percent Solution on April 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Can’t compete????

Yeah because you’re trying to be Democrats……but the real Democrats will always beat you if you play on the CANDY-FOR-VOTES Battlefield.

This gop deserves to die politically. They are too stupid to live.

PappyD61 on April 25, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Sniper.

sablegsd on April 25, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Talk about the Hanoi Hilton candidate. Geez.

Iblis on April 25, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Even Gang of Eight member Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) admits the amount of authority the bill would cede to the administration is controversial. “Biggest challenge on #immigrationreform has been well founded lack of trust that Obama administration will enforce the law,” Rubio Tweeted on Tuesday. “Its [sic] a big problem.

They won’t enforce the laws now. They won’t seal the border now, but we are supposed to believe they will do it after we pass this “reform?” They really do think we are stupid.

JannyMae on April 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM

NRO had post about Guiliani’s equally asinine argument for passing Shamnesty.

He said it was unlikely that it would help the GOP, but “at least we’d have it [amnesty] behind us.”

Wethal on April 25, 2013 at 6:20 PM

How do Illegals cause us to lose elections if they are not allowed to vote?
Oh we enforce voter ID just like we enforce the borders?
Wonder why the would be GOP?

Idiots and jackasses, vote em all out who have been there more than two terms!

ConcealedKerry on April 25, 2013 at 6:21 PM

To borrow from a chant popular with the Cameron Crazies:

“Go to Hell, John Mccain, Go to Hell!”
“Go to Hell, John McCain, Go to Hell!”

xblade on April 25, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Well sure.

See guys, there are two groups of immigrants.

Group #1… these are the boring useless humdrum immigrants who stay home, follow rules, fill out paperwork, and often have jobs waiting. We do NOT want these immigrants; and we should shun and ignore them, as McCain does.

But group #2… They break laws coming here, break laws getting ID here in false names, break laws getting jobs here, and avoid paying taxes here… they break more laws than you can imagine.

We don’t have enough criminals, we NEED more criminals, and rewarding the criminals we have here breaking laws for their own benefit is just the right thing to do.

It might not win us elections; but it will help society; as criminal activity always benefits society. More criminals, better society…

You disagree? Expect for McCain to call you racist very soon.

gekkobear on April 25, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Looks like only an act of God will retire him, so be it. A thorn in our side till the people wake up.
Jer 22:13-18

AH_C on April 25, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Looks like only an act of God will retire him, so be it. A thorn in our side till the people wake up.

Lessee, rich wife, beer, government pension and health care, rich attractive wife, lotsa beer, extravagant pension and health care.

Well, all that would be sooooo inviting and ample reason for any mere mortal Juan’s age to retire into a life of comfort.

Obviously, Juan is no mere mortal, with no mere ego.

Lust for power and attention trumps mere mortality and mere morality.

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 6:41 PM

SO… McCain finally admits openly that he means to pander to Latino’s because he wants their votes.

To hell with the rule of law. To hell with the damage that this invasion of 11- 30 million illegal aliens has had and will have on the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation. To hell with the increased burden this amnesty will place on our medical services and the 83 separate means tested federal welfare programs as well as the major entitlement programs and thereby, again, negatively impact the citizens and legal immigrants and the taxpayers of the nation….

To hell with Mexico and its future as the young are drained from that nation to serve as cheap labor in this nation…

Just so the GOP can make nice and grab a larger share of the Hispanic vote.

To say that these career politicians… the political class… have sold out the citizens and legal immigrants of this nation… those for whom immigration law was meant as protection from the rank predation of illegal aliens… is a VAST UNDERSTATEMENT.

This is corruption of the law and betrayal of the American citizens and legal immigrants for the benefit of the political class.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Parable in Law and Math

An army officer was trying to round up some Indians who had illegally left the reservation and were raising Cain.

He was riding with a few in custody when the Lone Range and Tonto rode up and greeted him.

Just after that, scores of Indians surrounded them at a slight distance.

The Lone Ranger, rightly upset about the unfairness and mess of the reservation system told the US soldier to release his prisoners as it was the right thing to do and might allow the three fighters for justice to live.

As the soldier considered the request, many more braves appeared.

When the soldier declined Tonto shot him dead.

The Lone Ranger was sickened and said: “Tonto, that was a crime, you never gave him a chance to draw or defend himself and he was just enforcing the law.” Then the Ranger scanned the horizon and counted even more Indians.

“Tonto, since we am surrounded by 500 Indian braves by my count, I am going to overlook your shooting that soldier AND the fact that the braves are on the warpath and off the reservation illegally. But I wonder what we can do with just the two of us against 500 Indian braves when I only have 12 bullets left.”

Tonto answered: “You count wrong old friend….” The Masked Man interrupted and said, no two revolvers six rounds each…”

Then Tonto grinned and said “No, I mean you that are surrounded by 500 and one Indian braves!”

IlikedAUH2O on April 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

If McCain and the rest of the RINO herd can’t sell conservative principles and Republican policy on their own merits… and have to resort to BETRAYING those principles and the people whom they were elected to represent in order to continue their own political career and maintain their membership in the political class… we either need a NEW crop of politicians, or we need a new party.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

If this is Maverick’s core rationale for passing the Gang of Eight bill, that the GOP simply can’t remain competitive without a grand pander on immigration, then it really doesn’t matter what the details of the final bill are, right?

McCain is a vindictive twerp. I remember him stating he would not try amnesty again. The new bill is an in your face replay of the last bill. The point is revenge. Complete power trip. He doesn’t need your love. He has Graham

Whatever you think of Rubio, give him credit at least for having the basic common sense to insist that he supports the Gang of Eight bill on the merits, because it’s the “right thing to do,” not out of some transparent, half-assed electoral calculus that encourages border hawks to chow down on whatever crap liberals are serving up on a plate

Rubio has used the same arguments since his earliest staged op-eds. To summarize: Immigration is broken. It must be changed. They are good people. We can’t deport them. We must give them permanent status

“Both sides should want this kind of common-sense reform. To those concerned about illegal immigration, what we have now is de facto amnesty”

It is cheap rhetoric to define the problem, and then argue your solutions. To Rubio, the problem is that 20 million are here and can’t get green cards. It’s not fair to busineses or illegals so we need amnesty.

I hope he proves that he is as serious about solving the problem as I and many colleagues are.

If you disagree on his analysis of the problem, you are not serious. Rubio does not prove it is broken. He calls non enforcement ‘de facto amnesty’. He tells you we cannot make them leave

He keeps playing the Jeb-Perry-Rubio song: if you disagree, then you don’t have a heart. Infuriating

entagor on April 25, 2013 at 7:01 PM

“McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway”

WHY? In their zeal to ram amnesty through the senate, even as the majority of Americans are against it, not one of the gang of 8 has really explained why this must be done now. It reminds me of Obamacare. I pray that Cruz and some others speak up before it is too late.

we either need a NEW crop of politicians, or we need a new party.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I think we need a new party with new leaders.

fight like a girl on April 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

we either need a NEW crop of politicians, or we need a new party.

If we can’t rid ourselves of the conspiring criminal cabal in leadership soon, its gotta be a new party.

hawkeye54 on April 25, 2013 at 7:03 PM

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

The only justification I can think of is that they believe that their passage of the law is a “bridge” or “opening volley” in attempting to have Latino support. THAT IS A GUESS ON MY PART!

“Why am I left guessing?” is my real question.

Someone, (ie. hundreds of thousands in polls and focus groups) has obviously made the point to them that they have no Latino friends who would be coming to the GOP except for this immigration reform resistance.

Given that fact, I would love to know the calculus behind the GOP’s rush on this. They ignore the ICE Union and almost every other idea and offer no explanation for their rejection of every other idea.

There really are options, including a national ID card and various other avenues to enforce the law — experts in immigration and border patrol folks have ideas in some number.

What happened to the idea of enforcing laws as a starting point?

IlikedAUH2O on April 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

McCain: Immigration reform won’t win us a single Latino vote but we must do it anyway

Let’s just deport McShame. He can advocate for illegals in some other country. He can take his big, stupid daughter with him, the rat-fink.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 25, 2013 at 7:05 PM

As a buckeye…

I humbly and sincerely apologize to America for John (pass the bill with democrat votes) Boehner.. may God forgive us..

The majority of the GOP base is social cons, fiscal cons, libertrians and defense cons..

and the GOP leadership consistently ignores us, and like an abused wife, sides with the left what beats her.. with a tire iron, refusing to listen to it’s own base is pure suicide for a national party..

Why won’t the House GOP dump Boehner?

can’t they rebel and kick him out of the Speakers Chair? He’s already said he’ll rule without them, why keep him on?

mark81150 on April 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

McCain’s philosophy is for the GOP to have no principles at all.They should simply have every demographic make up a wish list and submit it to the RNC.Then the GOP will quickly endorse giving everybody everything they want,eve,as he says,it won’t result in a single vote for the Republican Party.But it will make us competetive?

redware on April 25, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Rubio has used the same arguments since his earliest staged op-eds. To summarize: Immigration is broken. It must be changed. They are good people. We can’t deport them. We must give them permanent status.

entagor

And don’t forget one of my favorites:

Rubio: We can’t implement security measures first, because illegals won’t be able to work if we do that.

You cannot make this stuff up.

xblade on April 25, 2013 at 7:12 PM

… but what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete.

Do Republicans UNDERSTAND that what he’s talking about is opening up our broken treasury and trying to out-Santa the Democrats?

This was about THE STUFF. It was about the welfare benefits and the Obama phones. If it wasn’t, latinos would be loyal Republicans RIGHT NOW, and would have been so every day since Reagan’s amnesty.

I feel like my head is going to explode at the sheer stupidity I’m witnessing.

Murf76 on April 25, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Looks like I need to find a creative way to get rid of my paperwork and become and illegal. Maybe then I’d get more respect from my elected officials.

txhsmom on April 25, 2013 at 7:16 PM

What happened to the idea of enforcing laws as a starting point?

IlikedAUH2O on April 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

It’s housed in a warehouse somewhere, alongside the idea that the failure to do that is how we got to this point.

JannyMae on April 25, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Boehner won’t be able to pass the Senate bill or something very similar with a majority of Republicans so by breaking it up he can pass some measures with the majority of his party and others without. There will be less outrage from the conservative base in the latter scenario.

Wigglesworth on April 25, 2013 at 5:49 PM

No, instead we’ll just get a steady drip-drip-drip of one small outrage after another instead of one big outrage. Yeah, that’ll keep the base loyal.

/sarc

Aitch748 on April 25, 2013 at 7:24 PM

I asked in the McCain/Schumer gun control posting…

Is there any basis to recall McCain.. feeling dumb.. don’t even know if it is possible. But maybe it would divert his attention from destroying the Constitution and America…

unaffiliated on April 25, 2013 at 7:31 PM

I truly don’t have a clue if it could be done and if it could
be on what basis…

unaffiliated on April 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

The incredible azzhole of the land, McCain, went to OfA sheeple to thank them on behalf of gun control and amnesty.

What an incontinent swine he has become.

His father and grandpa cry from the graves, in shame.

Shame on the people of AZ for keeping this coot in office.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

I think it would be best to have a comprehensive immigration reform bill done, but this gang of 8 bill is a complete joke.

ninjapirate on April 25, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Don’t you Rethuglicans get it? They want to pass comprehensive immigration reform in time for Cinquo de Mayo, as a gift to the Mexicans. Celebrate diversity!

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM

They want to pass comprehensive immigration reform in time for Cinquo de Mayo, as a gift to the Mexicans.

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Or, as Barky, the Indonesian Dog-eating Imbecile, called it, “Cinco de Quatro“. That’s a Coloumbia/Hah-vahd/Precedent of the Lawn Review edumacation, there.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 25, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Gotta win before you can govern

Promise the moon, win and blame the Democrats

I give kudos to the Dem party…they know how to win, pander, and blame the GOP

Redford on April 25, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Sen Sessions Starts Reading Immigration Bill As ‘Protest’ In Committee

This was posted at Breitbart about 1PM today. Lot of great comments of support.

Senate Quorum Call right now.

Thank you Senator Sessions.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Sessions should make them read it in every single language that any official documentation from the feral government comes in. That should stop that POS bill dead.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 25, 2013 at 8:15 PM

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Sessions should make them read it in every single language that any official documentation from the feral government comes in. That should stop that POS bill dead.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 25, 2013 at 8:15 PM

That’s right! Many people think this immigration debaucle is for illegals from Mexico or of Mexican descent. They come from all over the world and many are our enemies. That doesn’t even count the “Visas” that come in thru other channels.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 8:26 PM

The explanation I favor is that immigrants and their diversity have become kind of a fetish thing, like a boot fetish, for many Americans, including nominal Republicans named Bush and McCain.

Just like a boot fetishist at certain San Francisco street fairs doesn’t care what toxic chemicals are in master’s or mistress’s boots he’s gotta keep licking, immigration fetishists don’t care how big the negative impacts are. They don’t care if DREAM Acts or sanctuary laws waitlist vulnerable citizens for programs like affordable housing or public higher education. They don’t care how much illegal immigration is contributing to blue-collar unemployment or wage stagnation. Immigration fetishists just gotta get more of their fetish objects and they’ll never get enough.

kd6rxl on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Polls are stupid and completely manipulated. Ask people what they think of the Chuck Schumer Amnesty Bill, which does nothing to secure the border.

Then ask them if preventing more illegal immigration is more important than amnesty for illegal aliens or less important. And then watch GOP support for this POS disappear.

It is a pack of lies.

Jaibones on April 25, 2013 at 8:51 PM

If Schumer turned around tomorrow and demanded a blanket amnesty with zero border security and was somehow able to convince McCain that Republicans would win more Latino votes — eventually — by adopting that position than they’d lose from disaffected conservatives walking away, McCain would presumably be all for it.

Schumer doesn’t need to turn around tomorrow and demand a blanket amnesty with zero border security — he already got that with the “gang of eight” amnesty bill.

The “gang’s” bill does squat for border security — just sets future security “goals” and enables the creation of toothless government commissions to study why the goals were never met (because they already know they won’t be). The “gang’s” amnesty bill is an even bigger joke on internal enforcement — the amnesty bill prohibits states like AZ, which currently requires employers to use E-verify when hiring, from using E-verify for years. That’s one of the reasons why illegal border crossings have been up sharply here in the past few weeks. The illegals got the word from LaRaza that states like AZ won’t be able to keep them out of U.S. jobs anymore, so they’re flooding into the state in anticipation.

McCain and Flake are both f–king idiots.

AZCoyote on April 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Shame on the people of AZ for keeping this coot in office.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 7:39 PM

Don’t blame all of us. With the exception of the presidential election of 2008, I’ve never voted for McCain. He’s a damn fool.

AZCoyote on April 25, 2013 at 9:10 PM

what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete. Right now we can’t compete

- McDope

And why cannot we compete? Because my good friend here, Senator Schumer and his sub-human liberal friends, have spent 40 years in a concerted campaign of racist propaganda aimed at illiterate Mexican immigrants trying to convince them that all Republicans are racists.

And that’s why I trust Senator Schumer and Dickless Dick Durbin and the other Democrats and have decided to partner with them to create another amnesty bill which does nothing to secure the border.

(Thank you for that logical statement, Mr. McCain)

Jaibones on April 25, 2013 at 9:13 PM

what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete.

McShamnesty

Then why aren’t you on that playing field competing right now, moron? We passed amnesty 25 years ago, so we should own the Hispanic vote by now.

xblade on April 25, 2013 at 9:38 PM

“I believe if we pass this legislation, it won’t gain us a single Hispanic vote, but what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete. Right now we can’t compete,”

Heh, McCain is at it again I see.

Well then John, if you say that the only way the Republican party can ever attempt to be competitive in elections is to give lawbreakers power over our laws, then we as a nation are already screwed and the Party may as well go ahead and declare itself effectively useless and dead. If the only way Republicans can gain more support is by advocating for alien criminals, then we as a nation have completely lost our way. If this amnesty does not gain Republicans one single Hispanic vote, then we as a nation are at the precipice of one party rule. And if we must be bend our laws to suit basically one ethnic group just because of their sheer overwhelming numbers, then our nation is potentially heading for some disastrous results.

You’re weak, John McCain, with no will to fight and you want us all to surrender with you.
Get out of the way old man, we’ll carry on without you.

lynncgb on April 25, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Then why aren’t you on that playing field competing right now, moron? We passed amnesty 25 years ago, so we should own the Hispanic vote by now.

xblade on April 25, 2013 at 9:38 PM

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slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Good Grief!….are people being gassed (no..not in Syria..here?..some kind of dementia gas?), cuz way too many people have started to be really odd in their thinking patterns. McCain..Ryan dating LaRaza shill L.G. Rubio making out with Schumer et al…Rand Paul lovin him some aliens..Jeff Flake, lovin him some aliens, etc, etc.
Who are these pod people??

Mimzey on April 25, 2013 at 10:51 PM

The Republican Party is not committing suicide like I thought, the RINO’s are killing it with their collective ignorance.

savage24 on April 25, 2013 at 11:05 PM

More, better, faster!!! — The California Assembly passed a bill on Thursday that would make the state the first in the nation to allow non-citizens who are in the country legally to serve on jury duty.

Like gay marriage, if it passes that’s just the start.

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Holy cow.

I finally believe it. The Unites States are going to divide into separate nations. I figured one day, but this puts it into my lifetime. If the leaders of California decide there is no nation, the illegals in California will make it their nation, which is Mexico.

Better they move quickly. That way we can quickly settle out who is going to live in each of how many nations. California can have all the illegals.

In a situation like this how does Rubio help? From what I see, the quislings are fanning the flames of seccession

Lincoln would not be for amnesty. He would be deporting

entagor on April 26, 2013 at 12:00 AM

McCain, Schumer: two nattering old guys who give nattering old guys a worse name.

McCain, Schumer: since these two decrepit, nattering old guys don’t appear to have the sense to know when they should say, “thank you, and now, goodnight, I will retire,” someone please retire them for their and our sakes.

Lourdes on April 26, 2013 at 4:28 AM

In a situation like this how does Rubio help? From what I see, the quislings are fanning the flames of seccession

Lincoln would not be for amnesty. He would be deporting

entagor on April 26, 2013 at 12:00 AM

Rubio is proof that setting-in with decrepit company only makes the settler more decrepit.

It’s always insulting how politicians who identify as “immigrants” lecture on and ridicule the rest of us about positions our Founding and Fore Fathers never believed in, wouldn’t do and couldn’t stand.

I REALLY think that political office must be limited to citizens who are at least third generation “native born” persons. Because today, the first and second generations new to the US aren’t assimilating, or assimilating, they are demanding we be more like the lot they left behind.

Lourdes on April 26, 2013 at 4:32 AM

“what it will do is put us a playing field where we can compete. Right now we can’t compete…”

By “compete” McCain means that Republicans too will expand the cesspool of moral hazard created by the government with free tax-payer/borrowed/printed money that is being used by politicians to create and save a massive underclass of “Dependent-American” voters.

Over the past 4+ years, the government’s instability has damped normal post-recession economic growth, hammering and gutting the politically hard-to-control middle class yet elevating segments of the upper class. And it is not by accident – it is policy.

At the same time, the easily-controlled underclass is being fertilized, carefully tended-to and artificially expanded with “immigration reform” to create a unbeatable pool of reliable votes for massive government, higher taxes, depressed growth, oppressed freedoms and rights in exchange for free stuff and “programs”.

McCain, Rubio, Republican Party leadership, et al, are handing the government over to the Democrats – who, in case you haven’t noticed, are rushing to the hard-left faster than at any time in American history.

DrDeano on April 26, 2013 at 11:08 AM