Congress: ObamaCare for thee, but not for we; Update: Boehner: Only solution is “full repeal”

posted at 8:01 am on April 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Remember in 1994 when we thought that Congress would finally be forced to live by the same laws they passed for the rest of us?  Good times, good times.  Members of both parties on Capitol Hill — you know, the one that hates ObamaCare entirely and the other that swears by its benefits — are working on a plan to exempt themselves and their staffs from the exchanges the rest of America will have to use.  Politico calls this effort “extraordinarily sensitive”:

Congressional leaders in both parties are engaged in high-level, confidential talks about exempting lawmakers and Capitol Hill aides from the insurance exchanges they are mandated to join as part of President Barack Obama’s health care overhaul, sources in both parties said.

The talks — which involve Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio), the Obama administration and other top lawmakers — are extraordinarily sensitive, with both sides acutely aware of the potential for political fallout from giving carve-outs from the hugely controversial law to 535 lawmakers and thousands of their aides. Discussions have stretched out for months, sources said.

Actually, I’d call them extraordinarily insensitive.  Congress passed this government mandate claiming it to be a great solution to all the problems of health-care cost increases.  So far that’s turned out to be a bust, and now Congress wants to let itself off the hook for the expense, inconvenience, and constraint the system creates for everyone else.

Politically, of course, this is rather sensitive:

Yet if Capitol Hill leaders move forward with the plan, they risk being dubbed hypocrites by their political rivals and the American public. By removing themselves from a key Obamacare component, lawmakers and aides would be held to a different standard than the people who put them in office.

Democrats, in particular, would take a public hammering as the traditional boosters of Obamacare. Republicans would undoubtedly attempt to shred them over any attempt to escape coverage by it, unless Boehner and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) give Democrats cover by backing it.

So why give Democrats cover and back this idea? Oh, you’ll love this:

The problem stems from whether members and aides set to enter the exchanges would have their health insurance premiums subsidized by their employer — in this case, the federal government. If not, aides and lawmakers in both parties fear that staffers — especially low-paid junior aides — could be hit with thousands of dollars in new health care costs, prompting them to seek jobs elsewhere. Older, more senior staffers could also retire or jump to the private sector rather than face a big financial penalty.

Plus, lawmakers — especially those with long careers in public service and smaller bank accounts — are also concerned about the hit to their own wallets.

Great! Now that they’ve experienced the disaster in an up close and personal way, let Capitol Hill denizens multiply that by millions of businesses and hundreds of millions of Americans.  Why should Congress get exempted from the utterly-predictable consequences of the laws it passes while the rest of us pay the price for their arrogance?

If Congress wants to avoid these consequences, they have a legitimate way of doing so — repeal ObamaCare.  If they can’t do that, then let them suffer along with the rest of us.  Anything else is rank hypocrisy and cowardice.

Update: John Boehner responded on Twitter today by disavowing the effort entirely, and making the obvious point:

Time to pass the popcorn?


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If you want to be exempt from O’scare..
Run for office..

Electrongod on April 25, 2013 at 8:05 AM

— especially low-paid junior aides — could be hit with thousands of dollars in new health care costs, prompting them to seek jobs elsewhere.

Well…We can’t have that..

ObamaCare..
The biggest Furlough in history..

Electrongod on April 25, 2013 at 8:06 AM

It’s nice to be a member of the Dictator Club.

hillsoftx on April 25, 2013 at 8:07 AM

If Congress passes a law..they should all be required to abide by that same law. No exemptions. Period.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:07 AM

They pass so many laws, regs that nickle and dime people to death to the point that they can’t pay for their own basic needs. Yet, they whine when they have to pay for their own healthcare.

Blake on April 25, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Squishy gop will give the dems cover dang it

Own it dems

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Why should Congress get exempted from the utterly-predictable consequences of the laws it passes while the rest of us pay the price for their arrogance?

Because some animals are more equal than others.

Simple as that.

Gatsu on April 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Where to begin? First there’s this gem

The problem stems from whether members and aides set to enter the exchanges would have their health insurance premiums subsidized by their employer — in this case, the federal government.

This line of thinking is infuriating. WE are their bosses, not the Federal Government. And while we’re at it, it’s OUR money, not theirs. The article mentions a fear of “brain drain” in Washington, really? That is the oxymoron of oxymorons.

I’d like to say that if this goes through it would finally be the straw that broke the camels back, but I think the camel’s back was broken long ago. In other words, nothing will happen. Apparently we’re all sheeple being shepharded by wolves.

ratherbskiing on April 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM

The day will, not may, come when we will rise up to tar & feather every one of these politicians who have inflicted pain on the working class and frog march them to serve out the rest of their lives behind bars with the average criminal.

AH_C on April 25, 2013 at 8:12 AM

I saw the goon Mike Allen discussing this on Morning Joe and the optics are so disastrous that Schmoe and Mika said nothing and went to commercial. “Thanks for coming by, Mike.”

Marcus on April 25, 2013 at 8:13 AM

All the more reason to start voting these clown-college rejects out of office, so they can all share the love of Obamacare we all are experiencing right now!

pilamaye on April 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Oh, and Mike Allen says they’re going to pass the exemption for themselves by adding it to a bill that HAS to pass.

Marcus on April 25, 2013 at 8:14 AM

Steny came crying to boehner

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 8:16 AM

There is concern in some quarters that the provision requiring lawmakers and staffers to join the exchanges, if it isn’t revised, could lead to a “brain drain” on Capitol Hill, as several sources close to the talks put it.

This assumes there are brains to drain.

Consider:

Obamacare?
Dodd-Frank?
No Child Left Behind?
Medicare Part D
Auto Bailout?

Wethal on April 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM

No walls in DC?

tom daschle concerned on April 25, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Thousands (and thousands) of Congressional aides…and the average salary is well above the national average…well above.

It is not like a Senator comes to DC and brings along all of his own people, fresh from the farm or small town America.

There is a professional cadre of congressional aides who flit from congressional office to congressional office after every election, offering their services and “long time expertise” to the incoming office-holder…for a good price (to them) with benefits.

Some have been on the Hill for decades. Others, the sons and daughters of America’s elites, do it as a stepping stone to politics, or law, or a lucrative consulting gig, another career where they can sell their “Hill top experiences”…but all are driven by money, not patriotism or wanting to do good and all that pap. That’s the harsh reality.

And a good portion of them live in houses out in Great Falls, or Potomac, or nice townhouses all around Lincoln Park that most Americans can never afford…and we are supposed to feel sympathy for them?

It is a job.

Don’t like the benefits?

Find another job.

Millions do it. Or did, before Obama and Congress screwed the economy.

But, if their bosses pass a law they themselves helped to get passed…deal with it.

We have to.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:18 AM

This is almost surreal.

p0s3r on April 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM

It’s nice to be a member of the Dictator Club.

hillsoftx on April 25, 2013 at 8:07 AM

We used to call it “aristocracy,” but I like your term better.

And the first rule of “Dictator Club” is?

dogsoldier on April 25, 2013 at 8:20 AM

Remember Dan Rostenkowski?

esr1951 on April 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Plus, lawmakers — especially those with long careers in public service and smaller bank accounts — are also concerned about the hit to their own wallets.

You made this law, what don’t you understand about “FREE”?

Eff all of you. We fought a war over this once and you are crapping all over the men and women who sacrificed and died to create this nation.

Bishop on April 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Senator John Edwards was right……there are two Americas.

The Ruling class, and we idiots in the lowly subject that lazily keep re-electing them.

PappyD61 on April 25, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Our country has become a battered spouse, or child. The head of our American family, President Obama and a silent majority of Republicans, clearly detests the family and its history, and at this moment is happily abusing us on a near daily basis in the name of a strategy he themselves devised: O-care.

Not surprised at all….. Welcome back Speaker Pelosi!

jjnco73 on April 25, 2013 at 8:24 AM

David Burge ‏@iowahawkblog
“Washington brain drain” is what I call an enema

ITguy on April 25, 2013 at 8:24 AM

….In the lowly subject Class that keep re-electing them….

Stinking iPad and bumpy roads. :-)

PappyD61 on April 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Laws don’t apply to members of Congress and their overpaid staff.

workingclass artist on April 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM

Older, more senior staffers could also retire or jump to the private sector rather than face a big financial penalty.

Oh, spare me. What’s a Poli Sci Degree and a lifetime of fetching coffee/delivering laundry for a politician quality one for in the real world?

MNHawk on April 25, 2013 at 8:25 AM

…repeal ObamaCare. If they can’t do that, then let them suffer along with the rest of us. Anything else is rank hypocrisy and cowardice.

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Since this kind of behavior is “rank hypocrisy and cowardice” I propose that anyone voting for it be routed out of office (resign if it has to be done like that) and replaced with more trustworthy charlatans. (Yes, I know what “charlatan” means, so shut up.)
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Among other criteria, the new charlatans have to promise to repeal Øbamacare as the first act of a New Congress or get used to the smell of tar and feathers. Period. End of story.

ExpressoBold on April 25, 2013 at 8:26 AM

The mind reels.

There is concern in some quarters that the provision requiring lawmakers and staffers to join the exchanges, if it isn’t revised, could lead to a “brain drain” on Capitol Hill, as several sources close to the talks put it.

The problem stems from whether members and aides set to enter the exchanges would have their health insurance premiums subsidized by their employer — in this case, the federal government. If not, aides and lawmakers in both parties fear that staffers — especially low-paid junior aides — could be hit with thousands of dollars in new health care costs, prompting them to seek jobs elsewhere. Older, more senior staffers could also retire or jump to the private sector rather than face a big financial penalty.

Can these folks not put 2 and 2 together? Never mind, never mind. Don’t answer.

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Welcome back Speaker Pelosi!

jjnco73 on April 25, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Palomino!!

For the love of god, please…!

Palomino!!!

Make it stop!!!

:-)

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Now would be a great time for right leaning blogs that are a little more “establishment” than others to do another one of those, “OMG Justin Amash has teh cooties” stories.

Just suggestin’

MNHawk on April 25, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Time to refresh the tree of liberty, folks.

AZCoyote on April 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM

When asked about the high-level bipartisan talks, Michael Steel, a Boehner spokesman, said: “The speaker’s objective is to spare the entire country from the ravages of the president’s health care law. He is approached daily by American citizens, including members of Congress and staff, who want to be freed from its mandates. If the speaker has the opportunity to save anyone from Obamacare, he will.”

“I tried to save as many as I could, but there just wasn’t room in the lifeboat for others once the Congress and its staffers got in.”

Wethal on April 25, 2013 at 8:30 AM

I am stunned.

bazil9 on April 25, 2013 at 8:30 AM

AZCoyote on April 25, 2013 at 8:29 AM

Sadly, in today’s world, Thomas Jefferson would be charged with a criminal offense for saying that.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:31 AM

For what it is worth, I am pretty sure that even our liberal friends may have a problem with this.
Such action flies in the face of Democrat talking points.

What say you Verbaluce, Sesqui, Libfree and Lester ?
You guys in for such “Elitism” by your party ?

Jabberwock on April 25, 2013 at 8:32 AM

I could have swore the Congresscritters already exempted themselves. I’m shocked, SHOCKED they would extend that exemption to their staffers.

Steve Eggleston on April 25, 2013 at 8:32 AM

For what it is worth, I am pretty sure that even our liberal friends may have a problem with this.
Such action flies in the face of Democrat talking points.

What say you Verbaluce, Sesqui, Libfree and Lester ?
You guys in for such “Elitism” by your party ?

Jabberwock on April 25, 2013 at 8:32 AM

They’re busy readying their resumes for Pelosi and company.

Steve Eggleston on April 25, 2013 at 8:33 AM

Remember in 1994 when we thought that Congress would finally be forced to live by the same laws they passed for the rest of us? Good times, good times.

Everybody raise their hands who thought that. Okay, I see Ed and …who else? Anybody? Anybody at all?

Fenris on April 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Big deal. A few people who actually pay attention to these kinds of things will do nothing more than bellyache in comment on sites like this one, imagining that their outrage is somehow registered and vented, and nobody cares.

The only thing that moves a politician is pain, and no pain ever happens on a web site. If it did, Elizabeth Warren would have been stomped by Legal Insurrection, and – poof – nothing happened and no one cared and she was elected.

Until the right figures out how to cause real pain to politicians and how to inform know-nothing voters, it’s just a bunch of hot air.

beatcanvas on April 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I’m confused. Why are members of Congress and staff required to purchase plans through the exchanges under Obamacare in the first place? That isn’t how the law works for everyone else. If you get your insurance through your employer Obamacare doesn’t change that. In fact, if your employer provides you with insurance Obamacare forbids you from purchasing a plan on the exchanges. Members of Congress and staffers currently get their health insurance from their employer, so I don’t understand why they would be pushed into the exchanges.

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Thang Hem, One & All.

Jeddite on April 25, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Not long ago at all Congress passed, again in the dark of night, legislation that strips the requirement of politicians to show all details of investments. People should remember back not long ago when several politicians got busted for insider trading then feined they did not know that this law applied to them. SHOCKING — the laws they pass actually apply to THEM as well?! In order to avoid criminal prosecution/punishment they passed a bill that basically stated “From NOW ON this law will apply to us as well’, & the matter was resolved. This was bogus legislation designed to prevent these guys from being punished — another law wasn’t needed because EVERYONE already knew ALL laws they pass applies to them. What BS! NOW, this new legislation basically prevents anyone from finding out if they are engaged in Insider Trading or not…”If you catch me doing it I can be punished, but good luck trying to catch me now!”

Just like how politicians enjoy the BEST healthcare we taxpayers can afford while we struggle to afford any at all, of course these Socialist elitists are further searating themselves from the masses & the horrible lifestyle that they are forcing us to exist in. Socialism is awesome…as long as you are one of the inner-circle elitists and the money those people seizes from the masses doesn’t run out.

easyt65 on April 25, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I believe it was Midas saying on another thread exactly what is in my mind now: We’re broken as a nation and there is nothing that will bring it back together again except a terrible cleansing.

We have a royal class which supports criminals such as Rangel and Killary, and keeps accepting back feckless retreads like Crist and Sanford who can’t seem to survive in the private arena they regulate. Then of course there’s the Dog Eater himself, a man so unaccomplished that you would laugh him out of the room were he to petition to lead your local PTA.

Our people are sacrificed all over the globe so some politician can claim that terrorism has been defeated, and half our populace is willing to point fingers at the other half in blame for a bombing in which the jihadi bomber did everything but yell “Alahu Ackbar!”

Bishop on April 25, 2013 at 8:38 AM

Yet if Capitol Hill leaders move forward with the plan, they risk being dubbed hypocrites by their political rivals and the American public.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/obamacare-exemption-lawmakers-aides-90610.html#ixzz2RTfcp4XQ

Isn’t that interesting?… that the only “risk” they expect to face is “being dubbed hypocrites”? The entire House faces the American people every two years for election, but they’re not really concerned about our wrath. They aren’t worried that every last one of them will be drummed out of office. Nope. They’re worried we might call them “hypocrites”, meaning that some might face a more difficult opponent in the next race.

Murf76 on April 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Remember Dan Rostenkowski?

esr1951 on April 25, 2013 at 8:21 AM

Somehow I missed that, back in the day…

Thanks for sharing the link.

ITguy on April 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Anyone smarter on the law then I am (probably most of you…) care to answer a question?

By making themselves and there staff immune to Obama Care, does that open up a new route to challenge the laws in the courts? I would think between this and all the waivers that were arbitrarily given out to certain businesses that you could challenge Obamacare via the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment.

But I must be missing something cause I would think someone would have already tried it.

Rufi on April 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM

They’re busy readying their resumes for Pelosi and company.

Steve Eggleston on April 25, 2013 at 8:33 AM

ROFL No doubt.

Plus the job comes complete with a snappy brown uniform and hobnailed boots, and who doesn’t like hobnailed boots.

Bishop on April 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Rufi on April 25, 2013 at 8:41 AM

The Left ended equal treatment under law years ago…one “protected class” after another.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:42 AM

When this happens, BTW, it is CRITICAL for Americans to get those representatives out of Washington as quickly as possible. In most cases, however, these politicians throw ‘crumbs’ from the table onto the floor to sate the ‘hungry peasants’. Unfortunately, too many Americans are too willing to hand over their independence, their rights, and their freedom in exchange for mere ‘crumbs’ – the enslaving social programs that are designed to meet their minimum needs, if that, and to keep them dependent on the Socialists depicting themselves as the only ones who care for them. Americans used to be hard-working trailblazers who would not settle for anyone’s ‘charity’ but have now become ‘crumb-eating zombies’.

easyt65 on April 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Erick Erickson (Diary) | April 25th, 2013 at 04:30 AM

If this happens, the nation needs to collectively march on Washington, DC, burn it to the ground, and spread salt over the ground.

If the Republican Party leadership in Congress goes along with this ride, there will need to be a new third party that challenges both the GOP and Democrats.

I’m with Erickson on this one. Lawmakers excluding themselves from the laws they make for the rest of us makes me livid.

petefrt on April 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM

How arrogant and evil will WE let our governments become?

Will the government leaders ever become so hungry for more money to spend that they tax coffins based on the amount of resources they use (that can no longer be used by society)?

Will they tax the estates for the ground/space that the coffins lay in? That cemetaries can’t be used for some greater good like a civic center or such named after the politician of the moment?

Will there be an ongoing “use” tax for every year that the grave space is occupied?

So, even in death you won’t be able to escape taxes?

This country is proving that man cannot govern himself.

PappyD61 on April 25, 2013 at 8:47 AM

This country is proving that man cannot govern himself.

….after all, he couldn’t govern himself (and his urges) in the Garden. What makes us he (mankind) can do it in the halls of Congress and do the right thing?

PappyD61 on April 25, 2013 at 8:48 AM

What took em so long? They should have had this one in the bag already. WE THE CONGRESS are slipping in their typical duty to themselves and I for one am dissapointed.

dddave on April 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM

If Congress passes a law..they should all be required to abide by that same law. No exemptions. Period.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:07 AM

They exempted themselves from the EEOC, IIRC, which is why a member of Congress could hire only employees from his own racial or ethinic group.

Wethal on April 25, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Credit where due, Senator Richard Burr (R-NC) was willing to go on record saying, “I think if this is going to be a disaster — which I think it’s going to be — we ought to enjoy it together with our constituents.” Amen to that. — Eric Erickson’s Diary, April, 2013.

Perhaps John Boehner should change his strategy to repeal Obamacare, and instead just sit back and wait until all of America is exempt. But the problem is the likely outcome would be that only half the country would be exempt — the blue half. Source: 733 Companies, Unions and other Groups with 2,189,636 Workers Now Exempt From Obamacare by MARK ON JANUARY 29, 2011

Source: http://www.economiccollapse.net/733-companies-unions-groups-with-2189636-workers-exempt-from-obamacare

IlikedAUH2O on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

I’m confused. Why are members of Congress and staff required to purchase plans through the exchanges under Obamacare in the first place? That isn’t how the law works for everyone else. If you get your insurance through your employer Obamacare doesn’t change that. In fact, if your employer provides you with insurance Obamacare forbids you from purchasing a plan on the exchanges. Members of Congress and staffers currently get their health insurance from their employer, so I don’t understand why they would be pushed into the exchanges.

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:37 AM

I’m engaging in pure speculation but here’s a guess.

For people in the private sector, whether they are in the exchanges is a function under the law of whether they have an offer for “affordable health insurance” from their employer. To provide that, the employer must fund the cost of the health insurance from the worker’s total compensation. So whether the worker gets it through the employer or through the exchanges the worker effectively has to foot the bill.

Federal employees, however, have thus far received health insurance heavily subsidized by the taxpayer. Because the health insurance they receive is not deducted from their compensation, but rather financed by other taxpayers, the only way for them to face the same costs as those in the private sector is to require them to buy insurance through the exchanges (or, failing that, require them to foot the entire cost of their employer-provided coverage out of their wages).

My — admittedly wholly speculative — guess is that the requirement was an attempt to create parity between the public and private sector. Without such a requirement, the public sector would be receiving a subsidy denied to others, since in the private sector all employer-provided health insurance is financed from total worker compensation.

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

One upside, congress and its employees will soon learn that there won’t be many docs in the doc business anymore as more and more retire early or just leave the business to save their sanity.

We’ll all be waiting in healthcare lines for that crumb of care. This is what those commies et. al want.

oryguncon on April 25, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Unfortunately, most people won’t give a rip about this either.

MPan on April 25, 2013 at 8:52 AM

aides and lawmakers in both parties fear that staffers — especially low-paid junior aides — could be hit with thousands of dollars in new health care costs, prompting them to seek jobs elsewhere. Older, more senior staffers could also retire or jump to the private sector rather than face a big financial penalty.

The lawmakers are absolutely correct, it would be tyranny to make anyone live under this law. Oh wait…

Ukiah on April 25, 2013 at 8:52 AM

And low paid workers out in the real world AREN’T getting hit? WTF?

ctmom on April 25, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

If this is the case, wouldn’t it apply to all federal employees and not just members of Congress and their staff?

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Just fired off emails to my Senators and representative linking this post and telling them they had better not vote for this crap. All of them are Republicans. I’ll be watching this vote closely.

Odysseus on April 25, 2013 at 8:59 AM

If it did, Elizabeth Warren would have been stomped by Legal Insurrection, and – poof – nothing happened and no one cared and she was elected.

beatcanvas on April 25, 2013 at 8:36 AM

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Your core idea is good but your execution is awful.
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1) Warren was elected by low-information voters in Massachusetts, a typically Democrat left-leaning commonwealth – the rest of us didn’t get a chance to vote in that election.
2) Until the 47% wake up and get off their butts to do something, we’re screwed, no matter who the elected Kritters are. First, you have to change the culture so that laying about looking for the next handout and relying on government to punish the wealth producers (other than HollyWeird, of course) becomes reprehensible rather than acceptable.

ExpressoBold on April 25, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

If this is the case, wouldn’t it apply to all federal employees and not just members of Congress and their staff?

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

An excellent question to which I have no answer.

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Congress Democrats passed this partisan government mandate claiming it to be a great solution to all the problems of health-care cost increases.

If Boehner were smart he’d craft two exemption bills, one for congress and one for the rest of the country.

antipc on April 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Sadly, in today’s world, Thomas Jefferson would be charged with a criminal offense for saying that.

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 8:31 AM

He’d also be banned from this site.

We have a massively corrupt and incompetent federal government that is blatantly trampling on the constitution, bankrupting the nation, and refusing to enforce our borders — but we’re not allowed to even discuss the obvious and necessary response to such abuses.

AZCoyote on April 25, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Please…pass this in about August of 2014. I beg you. I want to see a wave election bigger than we’ve ever seen before.

Erick Erickson (Diary) | April 25th, 2013 at 04:30 AM

If this happens, the nation needs to collectively march on Washington, DC, burn it to the ground, and spread salt over the ground.

If the Republican Party leadership in Congress goes along with this ride, there will need to be a new third party that challenges both the GOP and Democrats.
I’m with Erickson on this one. Lawmakers excluding themselves from the laws they make for the rest of us makes me livid.

petefrt on April 25, 2013 at 8:43 AM

I’ve been saying for years that secession is not the answer. We just need to eject Washington, D.C. from the Union.

Chris of Rights on April 25, 2013 at 9:16 AM

My God, why are we not in open revolution against these f*cks yet?

Midas on April 25, 2013 at 9:17 AM

My God, why are we not in open revolution against these f*cks yet?

Midas on April 25, 2013 at 9:17 AM

The sequester. We’ve all been hit hard.

Bishop on April 25, 2013 at 9:20 AM

I blame the idiots who vote for these horrible people. Mostly they vote for them because they think they’re going to get goodie$ out of it – but they are voting us bad, bad, corrupt government.

Thanks a lot, idiots.

LilyBart on April 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

The libs love to talk about amending changing the Constitution. The one amendment we need (besides repealing the 16th and 17th amendments) is one that requires that all laws passed by Congress must apply to Congress – they may not be exempted.

GWB on April 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

And, from the Headlines thread:

Erick Erickson said it well this morning: “If this happens, the nation needs to collectively march on Washington, DC, burn it to the ground, and spread salt over the ground…

petefrt on April 25, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Amen. Not the lamp posts, though. We might need those.

GWB on April 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Somehow I missed that, back in the day…

Thanks for sharing the link.

ITguy on April 25, 2013 at 8:40 AM

This is what we need to do, times a million.

esr1951 on April 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Let’s see…Congress screws up, and punishes taxpayers to make up for it.

Is there anyone in DC that even acts like they want to represent taxpayers? If there is, I’m not seeing it.

WestTexasBirdDog on April 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

They finally read the thing and know what’s in it. No wonder Maxi called it a train wreck.

Kissmygrits on April 25, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Ed, you are missing an important question:

If ObamaCare is so good for the nation, why are Democrats working with Republicans to exempt themselves? I can understand why Republicans are doing this, but this is a quite admission from Democrats that this is a bad law.

BigGator5 on April 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Another disheartning day in Washington. My senator Saxby Chamiss is retiring so he’ll do whatever the hell he wants. His seat is the hotspot so the other senator Johnny Issackson wont be challenged and I fully expect him to go along with the immigration BS. Both are good ole boys. Washington is so corrupt and so many need to be replaced its a daunting task. Theyve given themselves lifetime jobs. What honest person in their right mind would want to jump into that cesspool anyway? The founders intentions are so perverted theyre unrecognizeable

ldbgcoleman on April 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Wonder what John Roberts thinks when he reads this crap. I hope Scalia and Kennedy bug the s—- out of him.

Marcus on April 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

If this is the case, wouldn’t it apply to all federal employees and not just members of Congress and their staff?

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

An excellent question to which I have no answer.

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 9:04 AM

OK, I think I’m ready for more baseless speculation. . .

My guess is that at the time of the original law’s passage, no one in a position to do anything saw a sufficient political advantage in taking on the federal employee unions. This thing passed only with D support — my guess is that they felt politically vulnerable to demands that they include themselves in the legislation, but saw more political pain than gain in extending it to the entire federal workforce.

Feel free to dismiss this as the speculative musing that it is, but there it is for what it’s worth.

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Midas on April 25, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Because we’re sheeple.

BigGator5 on April 25, 2013 at 9:47 AM

This is truly villagers with torches and pitchforks stuff. Or would have been in a day when people actually paid attention to what the hell was going on.

flipflop on April 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM

The Democrats pushed the Obamacare down our throats without any Republican votes, and they are no better then anyone else, so no, they cannot exempt themselves, their aides, or unions from Obamacare. Can still be repealed next year after there is a major change in leadership in the congress.

Amazingoly on April 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

let them suffer along with the rest of us

If you are not part of the ruling class, you are little people who should suffer in silence. We are supposed to be thankful that we can support the ruling class in the style they are accustomed to.

pilsener on April 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

I suspect the low life bottom feeding, slim sucking politicians will eventually exempt themselves and their staffs in spite of any bad press. They don’t work for us, they work for the big special interest donors (where most campaign money comes from) and the low info minority block votes who vote for them no matter what. The rest of us are just a kind of “fly over” people.

Chessplayer on April 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Chris van hollen backing away from this….

Lol

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM

The Democrats pushed the Obamacare down our throats without any Republican votes, and they are no better then anyone else, so no, they cannot exempt themselves, their aides, or unions from Obamacare. Can still be repealed next year after there is a major change in leadership in the congress.

Amazingoly on April 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

True. Except for the fact that Obama will veto any repeal.

trigon on April 25, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Extra butter for me Ed :)

cmsinaz on April 25, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Yet if Capitol Hill leaders move forward with the plan, they risk being dubbed hypocrites by their political rivals and the American public.

Since when did being branded a hypocrite bother the Democrats?

GarandFan on April 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Full repeal???

OK, John, this is your last chance…in a year and a half you’ll be back in Cincy, lookin’ for work, if you back away from this one.

Full repeal.

All of it.

Effective the moment that bill becomes law.

All of it.

No exemptions.

No excuses.

Put it all, all trillion dollars of it on the backs of the Democrats and Obama…hold back on nothing.

Show exactly who and what those who support Obamacare are.

And if you cannot get the rest of the GOP on board and enthusiastic, and make this happen…well…good luck finding work in Cincinnati.

[Frankly, there's a couple hundred employment agencies in Cincy, I'd start sending your resume now...cuz this "repeal it" nonsense will go no where. The GOP just does not have the stones.]

coldwarrior on April 25, 2013 at 10:26 AM

We were promised “full repeal,” Congressman Boner. Try again.

gryphon202 on April 25, 2013 at 10:28 AM

*sigh*

They said if Romney wasn’t elected, Obamacare wouldn’t be repealed. And they were right.

gryphon202 on April 25, 2013 at 10:28 AM

It’s nice to see Boehner using the word “repeal,” but talk is cheap.

MPan on April 25, 2013 at 10:29 AM

I think I read about this group once. Isn’t it called the Politburo, or something like that?

pannw on April 25, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Democrats are scumbags,

John the Libertarian on April 25, 2013 at 10:32 AM

If this is the case, wouldn’t it apply to all federal employees and not just members of Congress and their staff?

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Perhaps it does. The article doesn’t say that this particular problem won’t exist for all federal employees. It just says that these negotiations are trying to fix it for one specific set of federal employees — members of Congress and their staffs.

I would not at all put it past these dirtbags in Congress to attempt to craft a “solution” for themselves and their staffers while simultaneously ignoring the same problem for all other federal employees. After all, they’re willing to ignore the problems of Obamacare for all of us who work in the private sector.

Shump on April 25, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Would this include the SCOTUS..?

d1carter on April 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Chuckles3 on April 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

If this is the case, wouldn’t it apply to all federal employees and not just members of Congress and their staff?

Mark1971 on April 25, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Greedy union employees are already mostly exempt from Obamacare, and that includes federal civil servants. Their lavish salaries and benefit packages will remain.

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Amen. Not the lamp posts, though. We might need those.

GWB on April 25, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Shhh, remember SWalker.

slickwillie2001 on April 25, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Why is anyone surprised? Just last week they gutted the STOCK act.

A year ago President Obama signed the so-called STOCK Act. The point of the act was to allow the public to see for themselves if members of Congress and their employees were trading on material, non-public information. “The STOCK Act: Bans Members of Congress from Insider Trading” was the bolded headline at the top of a lengthy and self-congratulatory press release.

Last Monday the White House website took the guts out of the STOCK Act in one run-on sentence under the headline “Statement by the Press Secretary on S. 76.” Those so inclined are invited to read the memo themselves. The gist is that disclosures will no longer be practically available for all employees but only for the elected officials, which means staffers, lobbyists, employees, aides and anyone who works for or is close to a serving politician can do whatever they want. Corrupt officials could theoretically still dish insider info with little fear of discovery — it’s just hard for them to trade off of the information themselves.

monalisa on April 25, 2013 at 10:40 AM

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