U.S. rejects NorKs’ demand for recognition as a nuclear state

posted at 5:21 pm on April 24, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

After months of an extended tantrum in which they have repeatedly threatened — oh, I don’t know — nuclear war, the North Korean regime demanded on Tuesday that they be Taken Seriously and get a spot at the big kids’ table as a nuclear-weapons state before they agree to a sit-down dialogue with South Korea and the United States. I’m not sure exactly what is is they’re looking for (an engraved trophy, perhaps, or some monogrammed bath towels?), but the United States’ was decidedly not impressed in their reply: Uhm… how ’bout, no. Via Reuters:

The North’s Rodong Sinmun newspaper rejected as unacceptable the U.S. and South Korean condition that it agree to dismantle its nuclear weapons and suspend missile launches before talks can begin.

“If the DPRK sits at a table with the U.S., it has to be a dialogue between nuclear weapons states, not one side forcing the other to dismantle nuclear weapons,” the newspaper said, referring to the North by its official name, the Democratic People’s Republic of Korea.

The United States swiftly rejected Pyongyang’s claim of nuclear status, while NATO foreign ministers condemned its pursuit of ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs and called for “credible” talks to be held on denuclearization.

“North Korea’s demand to be recognized as a nuclear weapons state is neither realistic nor acceptable,” Thomas Countryman, U.S. Assistant Secretary for International Security and Non-Proliferation, told Reuters in Geneva. …

A White House spokesman said this month North Korea would need to show it was serious about abandoning its nuclear ambitions for talks to be meaningful.

North Korea. What are you doing. Look at your life; look at your choices.

But it isn’t just the United States, South Korea, et al. trying to get the NorKs to understand that it’s in their own best interest to lay off the saber-rattling; even China –  North Korea’s main financial and diplomatic backer — has been getting pretty perturbed about the whole situation, and is reportedly “working on” persuading them:

The top U.S. military officer said on Wednesday Chinese leaders had assured him that they were working on persuading North Korea to abandon its nuclear weapons program.

… It has always been reluctant to apply pressure on the North, fearing a flood of refugees into China if North Korea were to collapse.

But in recent months, China has begun to express impatience with North Korea and its threats of nuclear war, and with its 30-year-old leader, Kim Jong-un, grandson of state founder Kim Il-Sung.

“I will leave here with the belief that the Chinese leadership is as concerned as we are with North Korea’s march toward nuclearization and ballistic missile technology, and they have given us an assurance that they are working on it, as we are,” U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey told reporters on the last day of a trip to China.

With any luck, they’ll start to heed the warnings coming in from all sides and quite making outrageously silly demands, but in the meantime, here’s a rumored example of the horrible, squalid living conditions North Korean leaders are simultaneously orchestrating alongside their imagined quest for nuclear greatness. Awful.

“I heard that people sold and ate human flesh,” says Chanyang Joo. “I heard they were killing other family’s babies and selling the flesh after burying the head and fingers.”

Ms Joo says she ignored the rumours until the parents-in-law of a man she knew were publicly executed. They were butchers and the crime, people said, was selling human meat.

Rumours like this have surfaced in the testimony of several defectors coming from North Korea. Whether they are true or not – and we may never know – the fact that they circulate and are believed illustrates the level of hunger, deprivation and fear in parts of the country that marked the Great Famine.


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I’m thinking “nuts” would be an appropriate response.

Eloquent, concise, and effective.

All things our diplomats are incapable of today.

BobMbx on April 24, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Rumours like this have surfaced in the testimony of several defectors coming from North Korea. Whether they are true or not – and we may never know – the fact that they circulate and are believed illustrates the level of hunger, deprivation and fear in parts of the country that marked the Great Famine.

When a million people are starved to death, it’s a near certainty that some will resort to cannibalism.

RadClown on April 24, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Obama reminding lil kim that he’s got big balls of brass.

nonpartisan on April 24, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Umm… John Kerry said they had ballistic nuclear missiles…

Seems the Norks want us to treat them as such.

Frankly the smart move would’ve had Obama calling for them to submit to UN regulations regarding nuclear states before any further talks can go forward…

But y’know I’m just a gun ownin’ redneck conservative and don’t understand such complexities like the lightbringer…

Skywise on April 24, 2013 at 5:38 PM

North Korea is pretty much never going to be taken seriously again, after the last months, unless they actually go to war with someone. The shrill and hysterical rhetoric was basically open threats of nuclear war and they are clearly backing down.

Doomberg on April 24, 2013 at 5:41 PM

If the REB accepts this as he eventually will, Japan has no choice but to build nuclear weapons.

slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 5:42 PM

North Korea wants to be recognized as a NUCKED country? Someone can make that a fact but not Obama.

meci on April 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I say just we do it, already. We wouldn’t want them to nuke us out of frustration over common misconceptions of their nation and culture.

abobo on April 24, 2013 at 5:46 PM

seriously? With THOSE hats?!

kirkill on April 24, 2013 at 5:53 PM

“I heard that people sold and ate human flesh,” says Chanyang Joo. “I heard they were killing other family’s babies and selling the flesh after burying the head and fingers.”

Kermit Gosnell’s defense: he thought he was in North Korea.

rbj on April 24, 2013 at 5:55 PM

seriously? With THOSE hats?!

Nice accessories to the platform boots they wear.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Kermit Gosnell’s defense: he thought he was in North Korea.

Considering his work environment, that would be an easy mistake to make.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Years ago, I read the nonfiction book by William Craig upon which the film of the same title ‘Enemy At the Gates’ was based. After the German defeat at Stalingrad, some German POWs in Siberia became mad with hunger and resorted to cannibalism. These starving prisoners started roving in packs, scavenging for fresh corpses, but soon began attacking other prisoners. Eventually, (still-sane) German officers and NCOs convinced the Russians to give them crowbars so that they could organize and systematically hunt down the cannibals. Until now, that was one of the worst substantiated true stories I knew about.

The horror story that is North Korea just goes on and on. I can’t think of a single people in the history of the world–at least in modern history–who has suffered more than they have.

troyriser_gopftw on April 24, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Well, looks like they will have to drop one on somebody.

jake49 on April 24, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I wonder how much those North Korean military hats weigh?

bw222 on April 24, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Well, looks like they will have to drop one on somebody.

They do that, and the Norks will likely get full recognition ….probably more than they’re demanding.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 6:35 PM

North Korea may be the biggest casualty of the Boston Bombing and the manhunt for the terrorist. It sure wiped their ranting’s right out of the media news cycle, and now, nobody gives a crap.

Wallythedog on April 24, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Obama should announce that NK does not know the first thing about nuclear power, their whole country is always without electricity.

KenInIL on April 24, 2013 at 7:36 PM

U.S. rejects NorKs’ demand for recognition as a nuclear state

Setting off a few tons of TNT underground doesn’t merit such recognition-whatever that means anyway.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Well they DO demand that they be called the DEMOCRATIC People’s Republic of Korea.
And in similar fashion we have a DEMOCRATIC Party that is lead by a narcissitic twit a.k.a King Putt.

There was a diplomatic message sent to Washington from Little Kim Jong-un that read: We will destroy America, its spirit and their economy.
Our Dear Liar, President Present replied back: Too Late!

Remember when he leaves office in Janurary 2015 … HIDE ALL OF THE TELEPROMPTERS. OK?

Missilengr on April 25, 2013 at 3:59 PM