Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 24, 2013 by Allahpundit

“He’s enjoying the hell out of life, “ a close friend told National Journal. “He’s his loosey-goosey self again, the way he used to be.”

Various confidants describe 43 as “mellow,” “serene” and “tranquil,” happy with his self-imposed exile from the political grind he never really liked and ecstatic with his new life below the radar.

“You have no idea how relieved he is to be out of the game,” one of his oldest friends said. “He doesn’t miss politics even a little.”…

“Of course he’s confident” about turning around his reputation, one longtime counsellor told National Journal. “How else could he be? But he’s got a ways to go to mending his record – if it can be done.”

***

Days before his second term ended in 2009, Bush’s approval rating among all adults was 33 percent positive and 66 percent negative. The new poll found 47 percent saying they approve and 50 percent saying they disapprove. Among registered voters, his approval rating today is equal to President Obama’s, at 47 percent, according to the latest Post-ABC surveys…

“Obviously, it’s a big moment for him,” former British prime minister Tony Blair said in a telephone interview from London. “It’s a chance for him to explain that his political philosophy encompasses much more than the decisions he had to take after 9/11. We forget this sometimes. . . . This is a much more rounded person with many more dimensions to him than the caricature often portrays.”

***

Fifty-two percent have a favorable opinion of Obama according to the latest Fox News poll, while 49 percent of voters have a favorable view of Bush

Despite a slight increase in his favorable ratings, the new Fox poll nonetheless finds that George W. Bush fares least well among the former presidents in terms of current popularity. Clinton tops the list, with 71 percent of voters viewing him favorably. He’s followed by Carter and George H.W. Bush who each garner 59 percent favorable ratings…

Overall, Bush had an average 51 percent approval rating across his entire presidency. Up to this point in his presidency, Obama has an average approval rating of 48 percent.

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It is possible that documents and archives will reveal Bush in a more positive light, but there’s no getting around the fact that his decisions on Iraq and on fiscal policy have led to huge problems. He not only committed U.S. forces in Afghanistan after 9/11, his decision to invade Iraq kicked off a 10-year war of choice that has destabilized the Middle East and drained the United States of blood, treasure, and the will to intervene abroad. He cut taxes across the board and borrowed money to pay for the wars as well as a new prescription-drug program for seniors. That led to a ballooning deficit and debt, and left the country ill-positioned to deal with the Great Recession that set in toward the end of his term.

It’s not that there weren’t accomplishments during the Bush era. He receives deserved praise for his international drive to fight AIDS, and his controversial No Child Left Behind Act institutionalized the overdue concept of accountability in U.S. education. The even more controversial legal and military methods he adopted to fight terrorists have been largely validated by the Obama administration, which has in many cases continued their use. And he was a pioneer in pushing for comprehensive immigration reform, a worthy cause that has now been revived.

But all of that is overshadowed by the deficits, the economic collapse, and, above all, Iraq. “Ultimately, what will drive how he’s viewed is how the Iraq experiment turns out,” says Bruce Buchanan, a presidential scholar and longtime Bush-watcher at the University of Texas-Austin. “The mismanagement of Iraq will always be there, but it will fade if Iraq turns into a flower of democracy.”

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All of this overheated rhetoric and fear-mongering has come from academics who profess to live the life of the mind. In their hasty, partisan-tinged assessments of Bush, far too many scholars breached their professional obligations, engaging in a form of scholarly malpractice, by failing to do what historians are trained to do before pronouncing judgment on a presidency: conduct tedious archival research, undertake oral history interviews, plow through memoirs, interview foreign leaders and wait for the release of classified information.

There is a difference between punditry and scholarship. The latter requires biding one’s time and offering perspective as the evidence emerges and the passions of the day cool. An assessment of Harry Truman’s presidency looks quite different today than it did immediately after he left the White House in 1953. And no historian, especially Schlesinger, would have predicted in 1961 that 21st-century scholars would rank Dwight Eisenhower among the nation’s greatest presidents.

George W. Bush’s low standing among academics reflects, in part, the rise of partisan scholarship: the use of history as ideology and as a political weapon, which means the corruption of history as history. Bush may not have been a great president; he may even be considered an average or below-average president, but he and — more important — the nation deserve better than this partisan rush to judgment.

***

President Bush is extremely smart by any traditional standard. He’s highly analytical and was incredibly quick to be able to discern the core question he needed to answer. It was occasionally a little embarrassing when he would jump ahead of one of his Cabinet secretaries in a policy discussion and the advisor would struggle to catch up. He would sometimes force us to accelerate through policy presentations because he so quickly grasped what we were presenting…

In addition to his analytical speed, what most impressed me were his memory and his substantive breadth. We would sometimes have to brief him on an issue that we had last discussed with him weeks or even months before. He would remember small facts and arguments from the prior briefing and get impatient with us when we were rehashing things we had told him long ago.

And while my job involved juggling a lot of balls, I only had to worry about economic issues. In addition to all of those, at any given point in time he was making enormous decisions on Iraq and Afghanistan, on hunting al Qaeda and keeping America safe. He was making choices not just on taxes and spending and trade and energy and climate and health care and agriculture and Social Security and Medicare, but also on education and immigration, on crime and justice issues, on environmental policy and social policy and politics. Being able to handle such substantive breadth and depth, on such huge decisions, in parallel, requires not just enormous strength of character but tremendous intellectual power. President Bush has both.

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Fact is that both Bush and Clinton do small acts of kindness every day, with little or no public notice.

Why? Because, like past presidents, they realize the office is bigger than they are. Because they are deeply grateful for the job we gave them, and they feel obliged to return the favor.

Our presidents and ex-presidents are not perfect. You won’t always agree with them. You might not even think they’re worthy of the office. But try to remember what Clinton told me a few days before he left Arkansas for Washington (and a few years before the Lewinsky affair made it sadly ironic): “You don’t check your humanity at the Oval Office door.”

Remembering that is to respect the office. And it’s the decent thing to do.

***

“We’re just laying out the facts. And that was a fact,” Bush said. “I am comfortable in the decision-making process. I think the removal of Saddam Hussein was the right decision for not only our own security but for giving people a chance to live in a free society. But history will ultimately decide that, and I won’t be around to see it.

“As far as I’m concerned, the debate is over. I mean, I did what I did. And historians will ultimately judge those decisions.”

***

But in his more than four years of governing, Obama has also adopted or let stand a series of Bush initiatives, illustrating how the policies of one administration can take hold and how the realities of governing often limit solutions.

Bush’s signature education plan, No Child Left Behind, remains the law of the land, though the Obama administration has granted states waivers to give them flexibility in meeting performance targets. A Bush Medicare prescription drug plan, criticized for its cost, is now popular with beneficiaries, and Obama has sought to improve it by providing relief for seniors with high bills. Obama continued the unpopular bank bailouts and expanded the auto industry rescue that Bush initiated in 2008.

Bush authorized a military surge in Iraq in an effort to tame the conflict there. Obama completed the withdrawal of troops from Iraq but also authorized a military surge in Afghanistan before beginning a drawdown of troops that is expected to be completed at the end of 2014.

“The responsibilities of office drive presidents toward pragmatism,” said Joshua Bolten, a former Bush chief of staff. Where those policies are effective, he added, “the successor has good reason to adopt them.”

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his foreign policy was even more idiotic.

William Eaton on April 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM

I’m not so sure about that. If Iraq blossoms, then he is a hero. If it implodes, not so much. At least he projected strength.

John the Libertarian on April 24, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Lost In America – Cooper

thatsafactjack on April 24, 2013 at 11:52 PM

We gotta just say no to Jeb. They are gonna push him on us.

KCB on April 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Yes, they are. And Jeb makes Gringo Jorge look like Sheriff Joe in AZ by comparison.

I’ve held my nose too many times. There’s no way I could ever vote for him. If Jeb is the smart one, why in the world did they run the two dumb ones first?

bw222 on April 24, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Let’s satisfy the Leftist Democrats in 2002, who were against the Iraq thing. Let’s imagine it never happened.

If any are still here, can you please tell us how Iraq would be so much better today with Saddy and his 2 Bomb Sons being The Adults Are In Charge?

(Starts Sundial)

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I view Obama as a Bush creation,

William Eaton on April 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM

And How Many Times did you VOTE for Obama? Twice – because you didn’t vote for McCain or Rommney. Pretty sure you actually voted FOR Obama directly.

This is the most heinous and biggest pile of Liberal BS OUT There!

BOOOOOSH did NOT “CREATE” Obama – The MEDIA DID – and American FELL for it

williamg on April 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Obama’s and GWB’s America

It ends here.

NO more Bushs, Clintons, Obamas, Kennedys, and other scumbag/scumhags.

Joan Walsh is so far up O’s arse that she’s purchased a condo in his colon.

Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Beats the Beluga comments!

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

But RWM… they DID pass gay marriage. Surely he gets credit for being such an great leader for that… you know… despite running jobs, businesses, technology firms, medical firms, et al, and most of the wealthy, out of France.

thatsafactjack on April 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

True and the multi-kulti leftists here had better take a good, long look at the faces of those rioting in the streets in France over SSM.

Hint: It’s not evangelical Christians. It’s their political partners.

As I have longed warned, nature abhors a vacuum and – to paraphrase Leon Trotsky – while secularists may have no interest in Radical Islam, Radical Islam has an interest in them and their idea of a secular society. It’s not immigrants that are radicalised in Europe, for the most part. It is first- and second-generations.

Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

I miss Bush for the sheer fact that he was and appears to continue to be interesting to listen to — nice voice, somewhat intriguing tone and attitude even when he’s objectionable, irreverent or bordering on it when issue is clearly ridiculous and more — but his idea that Jeb Bush would “make a great President” and “should run” is awful: we do not need ANY more Progressive Repubs. Not one more, no, no more, stop the madness (and that includes Jeb’s alternative, Rubio).

I cannot begin to express just how disgusting I find Obama, by comparison, as public figure alleging to lead the nation. His mere presence, the sound of his voice, just disgusting, it’s nearly sickness-inducing (thus, I long ago stopped listening to his speeches after the first few sentences). Obama’s “countenance” is alarming, it’s like some black (not really a pun) presence that there’s no real reason to tolerate so you just close the door or turn on the porch light or drive away or similar, that’s my reaction to so much as a moment of Obama.

Compared to Bush, Bush is a lively, genuine relief even when I disagree with some of his deeds and his threshed-out legacy of being a Progressive (as were his Cabinet members). By comparison with Obama, Bush is a huge relief of common sense, despite his sense not being what I can support when examined by itself as to the political sway of what he’s about (he’s too Liberal for me to agree with without reservation).

Lourdes on April 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

David Burge‏@iowahawkblog
@SamValley “Washington brain drain” is what I call an enema

https://twitter.com/iowahawkblog/status/327255133643739136

ITguy on April 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

As I have longed warned, nature abhors a vacuum and – to paraphrase Leon Trotsky – while secularists may have no interest in Radical Islam, Radical Islam has an interest in them and their idea of a secular society. It’s not immigrants that are radicalised in Europe, for the most part. It is first- and second-generations.

I thought I would give folks a second chance to read this.

KCB on April 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

ITguy on April 24, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Thanks for the stats!! Nothing like facts. Everytime I see the gas prices now, I recall those years:-)

bluefox on April 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

bluefox on April 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

Yeah, if we could only get the sheeple to understand.

KCB on April 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Clarification:

Hint: It’s not evangelical Christians. It’s THE MULTI-KULTI LEFTISTS’ usual political partners.

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Well said. Good evening, RWM. Wonderful to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

BOOOOOSH did NOT “CREATE” Obama – The MEDIA DID – and American FELL for it

williamg on April 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Sorry, have to back up Mssr. Eaton on this one. Stimulus, TARP, the surveillance state (and the elimination of 4th amendment protections), federal intervention in education…

Our current Executive couldn’t have gotten away with much of that which he has absent his predecessor’s policies.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

I disagreed with several things W did, either outright or in the funding, but I never thought he had anything but the best interest of the country at heart. I don’t feel that way about Clinton or Obama and I hope it isn’t just partisanship on my part.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

That’s about what I feel about GW: there’s a genuine aspect to his love of this nation, it’s not questionable despite his solutions not always being what I’d want — his love and dedication to the USA seems unshakable and I admire him for that more than anything else.

With Bush in the Presidency, I never doubted that someone *was there* who’d not hesitate to not bow down.

Obama, not at all that feeling. If anything, the feeling with Obama in the Presidency is that the nation is at great risk, 24/7, it’s like having a snake loose in the house.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

By the way… for those interested… and suffering… Firefox Flashblock does wonders. Don’t want to hear it? Flashblock will do that. Want to hear it or see it?Just click on it. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:04 AM

Well said. Good evening, RWM. Wonderful to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Thx. Good to see you, too. Same to Ken, Schad, Lourdes, Del, JL, bluefox, wolf’s dad and everyone else.

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Evening Jackie :)

Today a commenter, in the HA headlines, submitted a correction to the origins of the Lincoln quote. I appreciated it and said I’d convey to you.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM

For the record, the poll being discussed was published by The Washington Post/ABC News Tuesday showing Bush now with a 47 percent approval. This is way up from the 23 percent he had in October 2008.

Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Absence make the heart go fonder. By this logic, I would like to see Obama’s approval go to 100%… … and FAST!

VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 10:52 PM

We’re going to have a big challenge contending with the Leftmedia’s inevitable campaign to rework Obama’s legacy into something decent — if not “grand” in their hyperbole — after Obama’s out of office. They’ll inevitably take that colloquialism, “absence makes the heart grow fonder,” and amp it up into another fevered pitch that’ll be jammed and rammed through public discourse for years after O’s out of office.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM

bluefox on April 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

I agree with everything you said there.

I think Bush’s biggest flaw was trusting people who should not have been trusted.

He trusted Ted Kennedy with No Child Left Behind.

He trusted Henry Paulson with TARP.

etc.

Bush did things that he thought were right, often based on information from people that he gullibly trusted.

ITguy on April 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM

I used to get so angry with him, LOL. I agree with his wanting to do what was right, but like you say, he trusted the wrong people.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

Hi Sophie – noted this a.m. that you signed off with hugs and kisses and Axe never repoofed :) We’ll tease him tonight, no doubt :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

The Thrill Is Gone – BBKing

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Conventional wisdom says that Conservatives stubbornly cling to their guns and Bibles, but I maintain that the Sheeple will cling to Government. With that, the Leftist media and the psychological marketing (ops) that the Dems have learned to use effectively, I doubt we’ll see a real Conservative in the White House any time soon…partly because they’re aren’t any real Conservatives out there who can run and win even the GOP primaries.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM

We gotta just say no to Jeb. They are gonna push him on us.

KCB on April 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

DITTO.

It’s time to put the Jeb-Rove-Rubio-Norquist-Progressive-GOP into retirement. They’re ruining what remaining optimism there is for a GOP Presidency and resurging majority among the Right. Of course, that could be among their motives, but it’s time to give them the “no” stare.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Editor’s note: Watch former White House Press Secretary Dana Perino’s interview with former President George W. Bush Thursday on “The Five” at 5 pm ET.

News2Use on April 25, 2013 at 12:11 AM

Hi Sophie – noted this a.m. that you signed off with hugs and kisses and Axe never repoofed :) We’ll tease him tonight, no doubt :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Oh dear. I forgot to add the disclaimer: Axeman smelling salts sold separately.

lol

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Bush did things that he thought were right, often based on information from people that he gullibly trusted.

ITguy on April 24, 2013 at 11:48 PM

I used to get so angry with him, LOL. I agree with his wanting to do what was right, but like you say, he trusted the wrong people.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Not to mention Colin Powell, “the perfumed general.”

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I’m not at all sure that Axefellow will be here this evening, Schadenfreude. He left with a message to tell people that he was very late on/for something and had a lot of work to do toward it and that he wouldn’t be back for awhile. He left with an usually strong ‘poof’… in that it was a ‘nuclear poof’.

I suspect it all has something to do with preparations for his upcoming meeting, although that would only be my own estimation.:)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Hit the Road Bushs

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM

I suspect it all has something to do with preparations for his upcoming meeting, although that would only be my own estimation.:)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM

He’s going on a diet :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

Debra Burlingame, co-founder 9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America sends Paul Ryan a scathing letter.

This message is to let you know how disappointing it was to see the news story dismissing the Boston bombing’s relevance toan effort to push through immigration reform without due consideration of the contents of the legislation. This dismissal was especially chilling given the fact that your immigration reform partner, Luis Gutierrez, was the chief spokesman for the political wing of the FALN terrorist organization, which carried out 146 bombings in a 25 year period, killing nine people and injuring and maiming dozens. I have informed Joseph Connor, whose father was killed in the FALN Fraunces Tavern bombing in New York City, of your partnership with Mr. Gutierrez and your joint affirmation that the Boston bombings have no relevance to immigration legislation.

full letter: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=10151351851685946

Wigglesworth on April 24, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Thanks very much for posting that w/link.

Ms. Burlingame said it very well. And Paul Ryan saying Guttierez is his “very good friend” given Guttierez’s horrible history and current positions (also horrible) and associations (ditto) is reprehensible as to Ryan. No excuse for even associating with Guttierez by any decent, responsible person.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Even so.

Good even’ to you, RWM. And thank you.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

while secularists may have no interest in Radical Islam, Radical Islam has an interest in them and their idea of a secular society. Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Now that’s a piece of wisdom right there!! A word to the wise.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

lol! Possibly. One does want to put one’s best foot forward for an important ‘meeting’. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Theme song of the new political class R&D alike.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Good one, indeed. Now, if we could find one on corruption and paybacks…

The Rs of today are the socialists.

The Ds are the commies and other scum.

The former enable the latter in the destruction of the land, just for their own gain. I hate all politicians with passion.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

I’m not at all sure that Axefellow will be here this evening, Schadenfreude. He left with a message to tell people that he was very late on/for something and had a lot of work to do toward it and that he wouldn’t be back for awhile. He left with an usually strong ‘poof’… in that it was a ‘nuclear poof’.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:13 AM

Gee, what’d I miss? Or, rather, gee, I sure missed whatever happened.

Things like that happen here all the time. We get to commenting here habitually, people get irritated for a huge variety of reasons and differences, and there things go…

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

BOOOOOSH did NOT “CREATE” Obama – The MEDIA DID – and American FELL for it

williamg on April 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Sorry, have to back up Mssr. Eaton on this one.

You are. Very sorry. Very sorry, indeed.

It’s a Media MEME – and it’s BS!

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:15 AM

lol! Possibly. One does want to put one’s best foot forward for an important ‘meeting’. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Jackie, stop with the teasing! What happened? Splain it or stop teasing those of us who don’t understand what “the meeting” is you’re talking about and where, what, as to Axe doing his “nuclear poof”.

Or, I could just mind my own business and go away…yeah, I could just do that.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Yeah, if we could only get the sheeple to understand.

KCB on April 25, 2013 at 12:01 AM

Cancel their Cable?

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

The Rs of today are the socialists.

The Ds are the commies and other scum.

That, I agree with under today’s standards.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:22 AM

It’s a Media MEME – and it’s BS!

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 12:20 AM

Pointed it out myself at a Christmas dinner in ’10. The libs at the table didn’t appreciate it at the time.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:19 AM

It seems to me that once they’ve decided to wear that appellation…. ‘politician’… as their career choice… they earn our derision.

Term limits, strictly enforced, would go a long way toward ending that desire to remain a permanent fixture and member of the elitist club known as The Federal Government.

The political class has become to inured and invested in that private club membership and lost sight of their sworn oath to stand as our proxy in congress.

There are a few whom I still view as doing their duty. Grassley and Sessions are both on that all too short list.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM

I used to get so angry with him, LOL. I agree with his wanting to do what was right, but like you say, he trusted the wrong people.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

He also trusted a LOT of The RIGHT People!! A LOT!! Like Cheney for starters……….

Name the group of “right” (correct) people that OBAMA has trusted,….

Heck – name TWO!

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM

while secularists may have no interest in Radical Islam, Radical Islam has an interest in them and their idea of a secular society. Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:56 PM

Now that’s a piece of wisdom right there!! A word to the wise.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:17 AM

What appears to me to be taking place is that Islam is working it’s way up a tree, so to speak: taking one branch at a time.

First they integrate with all branches. Then they move up one branch and malign if not try to saw off the first branch they’ve just left.

Then repeat that process over the course of one branch after another.

Islam is using branches overhead while they saw off the lower branches, one after another, repeated, up the tree. First it’s one, then it’s two, then it’s…

Hint: think of a “branch” as one of many human social systems/beliefs that is not Islam.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM

yeah, I could just do that.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

More fun if you stay. Axe asked RWM out…to McDonnell’s – you’d have to see the comment on last night’s QotD. It’s sweet.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Lourdes… it’s not that I’m intentionally teasing you. It’s that it’s not my story, or my news, to tell. There are others who are in a far better position to reveal the events of last evening. :)

Good evening, Lourdes. I hope you’re well. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

George and Laura bush were decent people. but they were white, so….WHOOPSIES…..THE TRUTH SLIPPED OUT. SORRY.

GhoulAid on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Not to mention Colin Powell, “the perfumed general.”

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Oh, what a disappointment he was/is.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Well, it seems I have, once again, failed to win the Powerball Lottery.

trigon on April 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Jackie, pls. see my comment, here

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:07 AM

————
Indeed on the politicians. I was against term limits, thinking that free people can throw them out. Well, the people went nuts. We can only blame the people for keeping them.

Indeed on the good ones but the exceptions just strengthen the rule.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM

Well said. Good evening, RWM. Wonderful to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

Thx. Good to see you, too. Same to Ken, Schad, Lourdes, Del, JL, bluefox, wolf’s dad and everyone else.

Resist We Much on April 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

DITTO, again. Note to self: must think of another term to declare agreement other than repeating “DITTO”…

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

George and Laura bush were decent people. but they were white, so….WHOOPSIES…..THE TRUTH SLIPPED OUT. SORRY.

GhoulAid on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Their color is not their problem. Their philosophy is.

She is to the left of him and he’s a current R, which are the socialists now.

The Ds are the commies and other tyrannical scum.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

DITTO, again. Note to self: must think of another term to declare agreement other than repeating “DITTO”…

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

+1 works :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

Not to mention Colin Powell, “the perfumed general.”

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

Oh, what a disappointment he was/is.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Yes, major disappointment. Major, as in, very big disappointment. Epic level.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

I Think I Love You Too Much – Dire Straits

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:32 AM

DITTO, again. Note to self: must think of another term to declare agreement other than repeating “DITTO”…

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:30 AM

+1 works :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:31 AM

In keeping with that earlier comment I made, about people getting irritated over major and also minor quirks here over time as to the repeat commentors (of which, I am one), someone once got really irked that I’d type “DITTO” here when I agreed with someone else. Several others joined in with similar irritation. They seemed to be among the Left who comment here, to no surprise, irritated about “having to” read the word, “DITTO” “too many times”.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:35 AM

yeah, I could just do that.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

More fun if you stay. Axe asked RWM out…to McDonnell’s – you’d have to see the comment on last night’s QotD. It’s sweet.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Lourdes… it’s not that I’m intentionally teasing you. It’s that it’s not my story, or my news, to tell. There are others who are in a far better position to reveal the events of last evening. :)

Good evening, Lourdes. I hope you’re well. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

OK, thanks for splaining. I don’t feel so much alone-at-a-table-in-a-crowded-room thing.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

We miss you Dubya..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Until it shows up on Greg Gutfeld’s banned word/phrase list, you’re golden.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

The Gary Gilmore thing would work for white hat. Never happen today. The little bastard will outlive me on deathrow just like loughner who killed a little girl right up the road from me. Plea, appeal, plea, appeal.

Used to be you admitted to murder, you got justice. Not anymore. All you have to do is admit it, and you live. Does this make sense?

If you are guilty with a overwhelming level of evidence, admitting to it shouldn’t get you out of the punishment.
So what you admitted it? We had you anyways.

There’s no deterrent.

wolly4321 on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:29 AM

I was against term limits, and for the same reasons, but when we deal with people who spend their time playing video games, eating, drinking, watching sports and engaging in ANY sort of diversion, rather than spend time learning about how the government works, who the players are, and what they intend the course of the nation to be… I realized we need a safety of sorts.

Its too easy to simply do nothing, or go along with the status quo, or simply agree with the guy at the other end of the bar. When that happens, those who are part of the political class hold all of the cards. Soundbites. Ads. Airtime. Campaign machines. Pork barrel politics. And ‘FREE STUFF’.

I believe that term limits may well force people to pay more attention and get involved, since they would at least have to be aware that someone different was running.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Never too much Love

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Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:34 AM

Ignore them. Do your thing. You’re still free, for now.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

We miss you Dubya..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Missing Dubya: glass is half full.

Not Missing Dubya: glass is half empty. Wait, more like has a few beads of sweat on the outside of it when compared with Obama.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

More fun if you stay. Axe asked RWM out…to McDonnell’s – you’d have to see the comment on last night’s QotD. It’s sweet.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:26 AM

McDonnells??..Is that an Irish bar in Boston??..:):)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Hi Dire – you like everybody…beer :)

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM

McDonnells??..Is that an Irish bar in Boston??..:):)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Hah, and you’re drinking :)

McDonald’s

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

Obie has nevers been near the POTUS Dubya was..imho..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:40 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:39 AM

LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:41 AM

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

He also trusted a LOT of The RIGHT People!! A LOT!! Like Cheney for starters……….

Name the group of “right” (correct) people that OBAMA has trusted,….

Heck – name TWO!

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 12:23 AM

I had made a comment prior to that one and said President Bush was too trusting of his enemies in Congress.

Oh, B.O. doesn’t trust anyone. You can tell that by the way he acts.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM

If you are guilty with a overwhelming level of evidence, admitting to it shouldn’t get you out of the punishment.
So what you admitted it? We had you anyways.

There’s no deterrent.

wolly4321 on April 25, 2013 at 12:37 AM

It’s the need for “social discovery” at work. Justice wants to know their social networks, associations, leads and networks, etc., so they extend the gratuity (which is what it is) of a life with room-and-board-and-medical-care in exchange for more information.

I disagree with the gratuity, too, but it doesn’t seem to ever matter. I’m a prosecutor’s dream as to a jurist but a defenders worst despite my relatively constant state of mind as to being objective. Truth in sentencing is something I support, for starters.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM

This video slays me! LOL!

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:43 AM

I love this quote, but it also stands as a warning, to those who would follow it, probably because if they did, they would fall out of the graces of even most here. There is a storm coming, sooner or later one will have to choose sides, and it won’t be pretty, and some will find out that when held over the volcano, well they will be ashamed of who they see, because in the end talkin ain’t doin!

The fact is that the average man’s love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty – and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.
H. L. Mencken (Quoted in Baltimore Evening Sun, 1923)

MarshFox on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

I believe that term limits may well force people to pay more attention and get involved, since they would at least have to be aware that someone different was running.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:38 AM

I’m for term limits too, for all the reasons listed…I’m also for people from the yellow/white pages running for a term, then go home. The founders w/b aghast at what the politicians of today have created for themselves.

The founders also missed this – no politician should be granted exemption from any laws they sign/force upon the people.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Did you see that Obama is exempt from the cap he would place on retirement savings?

I agree with you. For instance, exempting themselves and their friends and donors from Obamacare was predictable… and reprehensible.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Good evening, Dire. It’s good to see you. :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Hint: think of a “branch” as one of many human social systems/beliefs that is not Islam.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:25 AM

That’s one way to look at it-:) But I think the point RWM was making is on what is happening in France. And a warning to us here in the U.S.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

And… George Washington turned down the crown for a reason. He wished to do away with dynasties and aristocracy and that private circle that wields power exclusively simply as a result of being part of that private circle.

I would that the modern political class would recall this and refrain from trying to reestablish those ills and visit them upon this nation.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:52 AM

We gotta just say no to Jeb. They are gonna push him on us.

KCB on April 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Yes, they are. And Jeb makes Gringo Jorge look like Sheriff Joe in AZ by comparison.

I’ve held my nose too many times. There’s no way I could ever vote for him. If Jeb is the smart one, why in the world did they run the two dumb ones first?

bw222 on April 24, 2013 at 11:53 PM

HERE’S what I think the deal is:

it’s not *really* Jeb Bush that’s being touted, it’s his son, the Jorge Bush one that these Progressives have their sites set on as to the Presidency.

By keeping the “Jeb meme” alive, they’re desensitizing the public to the idea of another-Bush. But the actual Bush that they have in mind is the third-generation “Evita Evita Evita” one (who is also quite the fist-pumping ethnic activist).

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

Did you see that Obama is exempt from the cap he would place on retirement savings?

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Yes. All others 3 million – the Obamas, limitless.

May they spontaneously combust, all of them.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

Cold Shot – SRV

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:55 AM

It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority…

H. L. Mencken (Quoted in Baltimore Evening Sun, 1923)

MarshFox on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

At least he gives me something to work with.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Did you see that Obama is exempt from the cap he would place on retirement savings?

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Yes. All others 3 million – the Obamas, limitless.

May they spontaneously combust, all of them.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

Congress must step in there, intervene in yet another of Obama’s corruptions, fix that. Obama’s acting like a midnight pillager of a 7-11.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

More of that ruling class … rules for thee but not for me.

Apparently, he doesn’t think HE’S “…made enough money” yet.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

MarshFox on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

Excellent…he’s also detested by most of the fooled world of today. These are the professors of today and this moron is a UN consultant for just about every big world event.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:58 AM

I had made a comment prior to that one and said President Bush was too trusting of his enemies in Congress.

Oh, B.O. doesn’t trust anyone. You can tell that by the way he acts.

bluefox on April 25, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Well…….thanks for proving my point and agreeing with me……….

People ignore the MOTES in Obama’s eye…….and pin Bush under a Microscope…..

Way to play into Chris Matthews and Wolf Blitzer’s and Andrea Mitchell’s hands

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 12:59 AM

The Sky Is Cryin’ – SRV

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:59 AM

May they spontaneously combust, all of them.

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

As calling cards go, definitely a personal favorite.

wolfsDad on April 25, 2013 at 12:59 AM

MarshFox on April 25, 2013 at 12:46 AM

All packed and clear for take off, MarshFox? :)

Good evening… afternoon… :)

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Schadenfreude on April 25, 2013 at 12:53 AM

More of that ruling class … rules for thee but not for me.

Apparently, he doesn’t think HE’S “…made enough money” yet.

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Seriously, I think of Obama and his deeds, and this comes to mind:

http://youtu.be/OejOrS-bHa0

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

lol!

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

The HIGLY ANNOYING “autoplay” video that allahpundit has Vexed us with DOES have one very cogent part:

Listen to where Bush talk’s about becoming the “Comforter-In-Chief” healing souls that are hurting…

Those words aren’t even IN Obama’s vocabulary —- OR The Media;s…..

williamg on April 25, 2013 at 1:03 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 1:00 AM

lol!

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

Our nation needs now more than ever someone in Congress who stands up and says, “You do.not.mess.with.the.sandwhich.shop.manager” to Obama.

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 1:04 AM

The Sky Is Cryin’ – Moore

thatsafactjack on April 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

Lourdes on April 25, 2013 at 12:56 AM

Obie has been stopped..Why do you think he is trying to win back the House??..:)

Dire Straits on April 25, 2013 at 1:05 AM

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