Globe: Russia warned FBI “repeatedly” about Tsarnaev before bombing

posted at 10:41 am on April 24, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The FBI briefed the Senate yesterday and today on the progress in the Boston Marathon bombing case, but more questions than answers may have arisen from it.  The Boston Globe quotes multiple sources from within the briefing that the FBI didn’t just get one warning from Russia about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, they got warned repeatedly — including after the FBI’s initial investigation of the now-deceased bomber:

Russian authorities contacted the US government with concerns about Tamerlan Tsarnaev not once but “multiple’’ times, including an alert it sent after he was first investigated by FBI agents in Boston, raising new questions about whether the FBI should have paid more attention to the suspected Boston Marathon bomber, US senators briefed on the inves­tigation said Tuesday.

The FBI has previously said it interviewed Tsarnaev in early 2011 after it was initially contacted by the ­Russians. In their review, completed in summer 2011, the bureau found no ­evidence that Tsarnaev was a threat. “The FBI requested but did not receive more specific or additional information from” Russia, the agency said last week.

Following a closed briefing of the Senate Intelligence Committee Tuesday, Senator Richard Burr, a North Carolina Republican, said he believed that Russia alerted the United States about Tsarnaev in “multiple contacts,” including at least once since October 2011.

This brings us back to the question of Tsarnaev’s status on watch lists.  The Los Angeles Times reported yesterday that Tsarnaev’s listing had expired during his stay in Dagestan:

An FBI alert on Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two brothers suspected in the Boston Marathon bombings, had expired before he returned from a visit to Russia last year, and he was not flagged for additional screening even though the FBI had interviewed him before the trip, officials said Tuesday.

The alert on Tsarnaev was more than a year old and had expired by the time he returned from six months in Dagestan in mid-2012, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitanotold a senate panel Tuesday. She said she would provide more details in a classified setting.

“By the time he returned, all investigations had been — the matter had been closed,” Napolitano told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The FBI interviewed Tsarnaev in 2011 after Russian authorities warned that he might have connections to Islamist militant groups. The FBI found no such evidence, however, officials have said.

Again, this seems very odd, especially given the “multiple” warnings from Russia — where one such warning was already considered unusual.  The subject of these multiple warnings had traveled to the country which issued them, where he had family in the region where Islamist extremist networks are well known to operate, and at least DHS was aware of that travel.  Yet the FBI allowed the listing to expire while Tsarnaev was visiting that particular region?

And here’s another good question from Michael Daly at the Daily Beast:

The FBI did not ignore the vague inquiry from the Russian government about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. Agents duly interviewed him and ran his particulars through the available databases. They seem to have been correct in determining that he did not have any connections with organized terror groups.

But the very fact that the FBI had interviewed Tamerlan back in 2011 presents the possibility, however slight, that the death of another person who was buried Tuesday really might have been prevented.

That other funeral was for MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, and the question is, why the investigators who interviewed Tamerlan did not recognize him before the photos of the bombers were made public.

Agents and cops may forget a name, but they seldom forget a face. And had an investigator exclaimed, “Hey, I know that guy!” the FBI and the Boston cops could have been outside the Tsarnaev home in 15 minutes. Tamerlan and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, might have been grabbed before the public release of their pictures, before they turned so desperate that they walked up to the cruiser where Collier sat and allegedly executed him.

The fact that the Russian warning wasn’t just a “vague inquiry” but multiple alerts makes this an even more pressing question.  Tsarnaev lived in Boston for years, remember, and was no tourist terrorist.  Are there so many potential Tsarnaevs in Boston that no one could recall this particular face?

The Senate briefing also produced this note of caution from Sen. Saxby Chambliss.  The motives may be more “complex” than has been assumed, Chambliss says. While the evidence of guilt is overwhelming, Chambliss tells CNN’s Wolf Blitzer, it may take longer to unwind the Tsarnaev brothers’ intentions for the act of terror:

“As for the ‘why’ of it, that’s going to be a very complex and comprehensive investigation,” Chambliss told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “I’ll be honest, it is not clear even after the interview of the suspect in custody has been conducted. It’s still not clear exactly what did this.”

Perhaps not all of the motivations are yet known or clear, but at least some of them seem to be obvious.

Addendum: At least one local mosque is refusing to hold a funeral service for him, his aunt tells NBC:

A Boston mosque has refused to hold a funeral service for Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the alleged mastermind of the marathon atrocity, his aunt said Wednesday.

Patimat Suleimanova said U.S. authorities had told the family they could have the 26-year-old’s body. Tsarnaev was killed during a shootout with police on Friday.

His 19-year-old brother, Dzohkhar, is still hospitalized and has been charged with helping carry out the attack. His condition improved from serious to fair on Tuesday.

Suleimanova said one of the suspects’ uncles approached the imam of a Boston mosque attended by the brothers to request a burial and funeral service but was declined.


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Electrongod on April 24, 2013 at 10:43 AM

It’s going to be so weird when they finally push this all under the rug like they did with Benghazi.

We’ll soon hear the lamentations of the Dems, “No one cares about this!” We’ve already heard, “What difference does it make?” again from Chris Matthews.

Nothing to see here, folks. But it’s cute that the conservative blogs keep pushing it as if it will make any difference.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I know this is a Boston thread but it seems to me there is a lot of under-reported Islamist terrorist actions lately…

“Bishop Tony Yazigi, a relative of the kidnapped Bishop Boulos Yazigi, told the Associated Press that the gunmen are believed to be Chechen fighters from Jabhat al-Nusra, the jihadist rebel group affiliated with Al Qaeda in Iraq…”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/terrorism-security/2013/0424/Kidnapped-Syrian-bishops-still-missing-despite-reports-otherwise

And in China…

“Mystery surrounds official Chinese reports Wednesday of a violent clash between “suspected terrorists” and the authorities in the restive Muslim province of Xinjiang yesterday that left 21 people dead, including 15 officials…”

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2013/0424/Mystery-clouds-deadly-clash-in-western-China-with-suspected-terrorists?nav=88-csm_category-topStories

workingclass artist on April 24, 2013 at 10:49 AM

What difference, at this point, does it make?!
Clinton/O’Malley 2016

mjbrooks3 on April 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Russians: He’s bad news.
FBI: No way! Our Fearless Leader has told us all Muslims are good! How dare you insinuate otherwise.

FBI: Also, no, we wouldn’t release the photos until the public took it among themselves to crowd source. Then we released it in a panic. Incompetent? Maybe. Political? Totally….

deadite on April 24, 2013 at 10:52 AM

To play devil’s advocate for a minute, we don’t know exactly what those warnings said. Now his parents were given political asylum by the US from the Chechen region for being human rights lawyers for Chechens during the wars over there. So there is a sore spot right there, and Russians do like to make mischief, including overseas assassinations. Making trouble for the sons of trouble makers? Not out of the realm of possibilities. Certainly investigate, but were Loser #1′s views outside the sphere of, say, Bill Ayers?

Had this guy committed an over act that should have gotten him expelled? He did have an application pending to be a US citizen, and I don’t think merely disagreeing with a specific US policy should deny you citizenship.

rbj on April 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM

rbj on April 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Apparently warnings from Russians are rare….

http://inagist.com/all/325762029786910720/

So go ahead, jump. Its not like the government is going to change until the SHTF anyway…

deadite on April 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM

They’ll just blame the sequester.

tomas on April 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM

So Bush was destroyed for 8 years because he didn’t act on one vague line of a security brief many months before 9-11…but this will have no affect whatsoever on Obama’s presidency? Oh, I see.

Youngs98 on April 24, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Don’t blame me
-dear leader

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Nobody cares about this! You guys are acting like the War on Women isn’t happening right now. Get with the program!

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Everyone knows Obama’s “Muslim Outreach” program means “letting them blow up civilian men, women and children.”

The future does not belong to those who would slander Islam, right, Mr. President?

Washington Nearsider on April 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I’m still looking for an answer to the question about why he was on Russia’s radar well before he went there in January 2012. Especially considering he was a legal US resident who had been living in the US for about 6-7 years at the time the Russians pointed a finger at him.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Had this guy committed an over act that should have gotten him expelled? He did have an application pending to be a US citizen, and I don’t think merely disagreeing with a specific US policy should deny you citizenship.

rbj on April 24, 2013 at 10:53 AM

I don’t know. How about beating his girlfriend? And now, maybe being responsible for a SEPTEMBER 11th throat slitting of his best friend? I don’t know – if I was a dim bulb cop, I might think a throat slitting on 9/11 had a faintly islamic stink to it, and start looking at friends. Isn’t what they are supposed to do anyway in cases that appear that the murders took place by someone the victims knew?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/23/tamerlan-tsarnaev-s-best-friend-brendan-mess-an-unsolved-killing.html

deadite on April 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Ding ding ding youngs98

Gotta a d next to his name…all is well
-lsm

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Ed – the facts are already out there.

It was reported days ago-

1. That the Russians had talked to us more than twice about him.

2. That the feds had talked to him in person and on the phone a number of times.

3. That Tamerlan left in part because of his expiring Visa…

4. …Which was due to him not being able to become a naturlized citizen, supposedly over his domestic abuse charge…

5. …But was actually because DHS/INS didn’t want to naturalize him.

DHS thought they could fix the glitch by not giving him naturalization, allowing his visa to expire.

The visa expiration forced Tamerlan to go back to Dagestan, which he knew was coming, so he planned ahead to make some friends, which is why he went months before his father was in town.

The Russians froze Tamerlan’s visa renewal, because it would then force us to question him along with them.

But Tamerlan was tipped off, got credentials with a misspelled name and made it back in…

…because the alert that “expired” didn’t “expire”.

They simply thought he didn’t come back, and killed the alert.

“We fixed the glitch”

budfox on April 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I said early on that the Boston Bombing was a(nother)failure of the Obama Administration. Events keep proving me right.

WannabeAnglican on April 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Muslims are this nations enemy. Muslims are Barry’s friends.

They are an essential part of the hope and change in his transforming of the US.

Get used to more of this unless, as a nation, we repent of our dhimmi ways convert to islam and assimilate.

Warnings such as these are to be ignored, as they “jump to conclusions” and are stumbling blocks to the objectives of our current admin.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 11:00 AM

Nobody cares about this!
happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I fear you are correct.

Dr. Frank Enstine on April 24, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Again, this seems very odd, especially given the “multiple” warnings from Russia — where one such warning was already considered unusual. The subject of these multiple warnings had traveled to the country which issued them, where he had family in the region where Islamist extremist networks are well known to operate, and at least DHS was aware of that travel. Yet the FBI allowed the listing to expire while Tsarnaev was visiting that particular region?

The system “pinged” when he left. The system worked. Sure, it still has some bugs in it. But it worked, apparently exactly as designed.

farsighted on April 24, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Big Sis is keeping all resources watching Constitutionalists because they represent the greatest threat to Obama’s plans.

trs on April 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM

“It’s still not clear exactly what did this.”

But, we know what will prevent it…

This Is What Batshit Crazy Looks Like: The Healing Power of Carbon and Eco-Taxation, Which Is THE Only Real Way To Stop Terrorism

M2RB: Cheap Trick

Resist We Much on April 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Anybody heard from Jamie Gorelick lately?

All in all, you’re just another brick in the wall…

coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Big Sis is keeping all resources watching Constitutionalists because they represent the greatest threat to Obama’s plans.

trs on April 24, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Well, I did read they were on the DHS watch list after all…..

/snake eats tail

roy_batty on April 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Seems as if Big Sis needs to get a new pinging machine or she needs to get a new person to man the machine…

I can’t wait to see how they vett the millions that get amnesty…ping.

d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

Pete Williams doing his best to defend the FBI

They never got a response from the Russians yada yada yada

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Things are looking up for Tsarnaev. His public defender, Miriam Conrad, is experienced representing Islamic terrorists! She sounds like a real piece of work (from a Wall Street Journal article):

In 2006, Ms Conrad told the Rhode Island Lawyers Weekly: “From a personal standpoint, I would say that there are very few clients I have had who I didn’t like. . . . .If you scratch the surface, many have had difficult lives, and, as their lawyer, I sort of see them whole – not just as a person charged with a crime. No one has ever stood up for them, and that is a very powerful, emotional thing.”

We can already see the strategy to keep this bastard from death row. Dzohkhar Tsarnaev had a difficult life and was led astray by his evil brother. We shouldn’t condemn him for killing four and maiming hundreds. He’s a human being who just needs to be hugged or something. I haven’t even heard Ms. Conrad’s defense of this bastard but I already hate her. She’d rather try and help a terrorist beat the rap than standing up for the many victims of her client’s actions.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

GLENN BECK, et.al. are all over this with new info just released….there is a major, major cover-up trying to be formed and as of now, its not working.

Don’t look at the Saudis, Don’t look at the Saudis

We now know that some of this “conflicting” stories are just that.
They are PURPOSELY “conflicting” to serve as diversions for a bigger story of a cell in Boston.

LordMaximus on April 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

‘I don’t care if my son is killed! I don’t care if I am killed!’ Bombers’ mother’s bizarre rant as she says they were only targeted because they were Muslim

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2314024/Zubeidat-Tsarnaeva-Mom-Boston-Marathon-bombers-said-does-care-son-killed.html

I swear she is posing for the cameras now.

Blake on April 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Everyone knows Obama’s “Muslim Outreach” program means “letting them blow up civilian men, women and children.”

The future does not belong to those who would slander Islam, right, Mr. President?

Washington Nearsider on April 24, 2013 at 10:57 AM

Hey! The rat-eared coward’s Muslim outreach is working. You wouldn’t believe the respect in which Christopher Stevens was sodomized and killed. That never would have happened under GWB!

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Some dem congressman defending the FBI as well now

No red flags were raised

Seriously

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

The American public has the attention span of a gnat. As with Benghazi all you have to do is stonewall and stall. Then, after a couple of months, all you have to do is say “You’re asking the same stupid question-we’ve been through all this before’(even though the truth is the same “stupid” are still being asked because they’ve never been answered.)–thus deflecting the public’s anger from the perpetrators to the investigators. (This also happened with L’Affaire Lewinsky.)

As for repeated warnings being ignored–this is obviously in response to Obama Administration guidelines where NO MUSLIM IS EVER GUILTY OF ANYTHING–as seen in the Ft Hood Massacre being called WORKPLACE VIOLENCE and the Benghazi dodge.. Therefore the FBI, obviously looking over their shoulders, chose their careers over national security and did nothing with the warnings.

MaiDee on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

I swear she is posing for the cameras now.

Blake on April 24, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Probably already in touch with Lyons Entertainment, setting up a new reality show for next season.

coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM

The 3-AM Call. Obama hit snooze. He’s got an early tee time.

Axeman on April 24, 2013 at 11:10 AM

Seems as if Big Sis needs to get a new pinging machine or she needs to get a new person to man the machine…

d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 11:04 AM

I think you’ll find the pinging machine is really nothing more than a cardboard box with a chicken in it that rings a bell when pecking the button that releases a few kernels of corn.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM

That never would have happened under GWB!

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM

I would guess that the initial investigator was told to close the case, whether he wanted to or not. After all, we can’t be racist! At a big attack, the big shots take over and I doubt the lowly agent was even consulted.

PattyJ on April 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Now you’re just being ridiculous.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:12 AM

How so? How many ambassadors were sodomized and killed when GWB was in office?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Perhaps the FBI thought they were still dealing with commie Ruskies using forbidden words like Islam, terrorists and Muslim and decided discretion is the better part of PC valor.

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Perhaps not all of the motivations are yet known or clear, but at least some of them seem to be obvious.

I think they wanted to terrorize a sporting event… as foreshadowing future attacks by other Chechens on Russia’s 2014 Winter Olympics and 2018 World Cup.

ninjapirate on April 24, 2013 at 11:16 AM

No red flags were raised

Seriously

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

I have no doubt that the FBI is being truthful in saying that no red flags were raised. I think it equally true that they really weren’t all that curious when they interviewed Tsarnaev and looked into Russia’s alerts.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

According to the current prevailing Administration doctrine, Beslan was merely workplace violence or something.

coldwarrior on April 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

I don’t know. How about beating his girlfriend? And now, maybe being responsible for a SEPTEMBER 11th throat slitting of his best friend? I don’t know – if I was a dim bulb cop, I might think a throat slitting on 9/11 had a faintly islamic stink to it, and start looking at friends. Isn’t what they are supposed to do anyway in cases that appear that the murders took place by someone the victims knew?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/04/23/tamerlan-tsarnaev-s-best-friend-brendan-mess-an-unsolved-killing.html

deadite on April 24, 2013 at 10:58 AM

The domestic violence charge was dropped. Probably an over worked prosecutor’s office. The murders is pure speculation at this point, there is no evidence.

Certainly there should have been heightened scrutiny — how does a guy without a job fund a 6 month vacation to a volatile region known for producing terrorists who target civilians? But I’m also not going to take anything coming from Vladimir Putin’s regime at face value when it’s quite clear that it takes opposition to it personally.

rbj on April 24, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Perhaps the FBI thought they were still dealing with commie Ruskies using forbidden words like Islam, terrorists and Muslim and decided discretion is the better part of PC valor.

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Given that radical Islam terrorism has been written out of the FBI training, would the agents even know what the Russians were talking about?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM

If the Russians take the time to tell you about a guy…well?

tomas on April 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM

I have no doubt that the FBI is being truthful in saying that no red flags were raised. I think it equally true that they really weren’t all that curious when they interviewed Tsarnaev and looked into Russia’s alerts.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:17 AM

How many other potential terrorists have been “duly interviewed” and cleared by the FBI? I suppose we’ll know soon enough.

Curtiss on April 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

When do we call for Incompitano’s head?

maryo on April 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

How so? How many ambassadors were sodomized and killed when GWB was in office?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

No U.S. Ambassadors have been assassinated since 1979. But if one had been killed under GWB the savages probably would have released his beheading as a recruitment video.

GWB is the one that pushed this whole “Religion of Peace” nonsense into the mainstream vernacular. Pretending that he was tough on Islam is disingenuous at best.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

They should have told the FBI it was a white Tea Party guy posing as a radical Muslim to throw them off.

They would have been on him in minutes.

profitsbeard on April 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Bottom line: There is no reason the Boston Marathon Bombing had to happen.

The Federal government utterly failed. After billions of dollars spent to make sure it didn’t fail. How absolutely disgusting.

ORconservative on April 24, 2013 at 11:22 AM

“It’s still not clear exactly what did this.”

Islam did this.

No Christian, Jew, Buddhist, or Hindu kills in the name of their religion, to please their Prophet, or to please their God. Only Muslims do that. This is right up there with wondering what caused the AIDS epidemic in the US. The answer isn’t politically correct, and it will hurt some feelings. But let’s call a spade a spade.

Paul-Cincy on April 24, 2013 at 11:23 AM

If only the Russian’s would have warned that these guys were fans of Sarah Palin and limited government… maybe the FBI would have prevented the bombing!

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM

I’m going to have to go with Hillary on the impact of this information. No one is going to do anything with it.

Cindy Munford on April 24, 2013 at 11:24 AM

MaiDee on April 24, 2013 at 11:09 AM

This is not new. Twenty years ago Bill Clinton repeatedly lied about having an affair with Jennifer Flowers, until when he went on 60 minutes to say that he had already come clean about it.

Yes doublethink began 20 years ago. Sad.

Axeman on April 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Guys, Beck and the Blaze have the goods. Here’s the text of page 2 of the event file created on the Saudi kid who was detained then released. AMAZING:

Subject,

ALHARBI, ABDULRAHMAN ALI E

DOB 03/12/1993

COC SAUDI ARABIA

Subject is an exact match to NO FLY TPN# 1037506192. Derogatory information reviewed by W/C Mayfield and CW/C Maimbourg was found to be sufficient to request Visa revocation. NTC-P is requesting revocation of Foil# e3139541. Subject is inadmissible to the U.S. under INA 212(a)(3)(B)(i)(II). SAO was not completed prior to Visa issuance. Subject is currently in the United States, admitted F1 student, at Boston POE on 08/28/2012. Subject is a student at THE UNIVERSITY OF FINDLAY, 1000 NORTH MAIN STREET FINDLAY, OHIO 45840-3695. Subject has One (1) prior event #1648067, Fins promoted, NT record in place, No scheduled found at this time. [Emphasis added]

Go check it out for the pics of the event file and the designation 212-3B.

Weight of Glory on April 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Shameful hn

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Hint to meth dealers: Try a mosque or an abortion clinic to do your cooking. The authorities will never look for you in either.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:27 AM

No U.S. Ambassadors have been assassinated since 1979. But if one had been killed under GWB the savages probably would have released his beheading as a recruitment video.

GWB is the one that pushed this whole “Religion of Peace” nonsense into the mainstream vernacular. Pretending that he was tough on Islam is disingenuous at best.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:21 AM

So Obama improved things to the extent that our ambassador was merely sodomized and killed instead of beheaded? You really going to stick with that? Lean forward or something.

GWB wouldn’t be afraid to talk about Islamic terrorist attacks on American soil. Fort Hood wouldn’t be an instance of workplace violence. That recruiting station murder wouldn’t be an anti-war demonstration. And GWB would have called the Boston Marathon bombing terrorism (the rat-eared coward never has). And GWB certainly would not be telling us that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions when one of these Islamic terror attacks occur.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Are there so many potential Tsarnaevs in Boston that no one could recall this particular face?

I’m gonna say ‘yes’ on this. Put me down for at least 1,000 ‘persons of interest’ in the Metro-Boston area. Seriously.

joejm65 on April 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

How many other potential terrorists have been “duly interviewed” and cleared by the FBI? I suppose we’ll know soon enough.

Curtiss on April 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Any further leakers will be chalked up to sequestration.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Weight of Glory on April 24, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I made a mistake. What I posted is the cover page of the event file, not the 2 page.

Weight of Glory on April 24, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Are there so many potential Tsarnaevs in Boston that no one could recall this particular face?

I’m gonna say ‘yes’ on this. Put me down for at least 1,000 ‘persons of interest’ in the Metro-Boston area. Seriously.

And you can probably multiply that at least 10x from coast to coast.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 11:33 AM

I suspect Big Sis will be vetting GB more than she has any terrorist lately…he better double the security.

d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Are there so many potential Tsarnaevs in Boston that no one could recall this particular face?

Well, it is one of the more common Irish names. /

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:35 AM

So Obama improved things to the extent that our ambassador was merely sodomized and killed instead of beheaded? You really going to stick with that? Lean forward or something.

GWB wouldn’t be afraid to talk about Islamic terrorist attacks on American soil. Fort Hood wouldn’t be an instance of workplace violence. That recruiting station murder wouldn’t be an anti-war demonstration. And GWB would have called the Boston Marathon bombing terrorism (the rat-eared coward never has). And GWB certainly would not be telling us that we shouldn’t jump to conclusions when one of these Islamic terror attacks occur.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM

No, I’m pretty sure Obama hasn’t “improved things” at all.

We can’t speculate on what GWB would have done. We simply don’t know. What we do know is that Bush did more to promuglate the fallacious notion that Islam is a “religion of peace hijacked by a few radicals” than maybe any other infidel in history.

The idea that we can have a war against a tactic is absurd.

His legacy on this is shameful.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Islam did this.

No Christian, Jew, Buddhist, or Hindu kills in the name of their religion, to please their Prophet, or to please their God. Only Muslims do that.

And muslims kill each other to please their interpretation of how their god should be followed. Your particular sect does it wrong and “blam”, courtesy of another sect hostile to yours.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 11:38 AM

How so? How many ambassadors were sodomized and killed when GWB was in office?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:14 AM

W had better whitewash. Remember all the “lone” jihadi attacks under Bush, I do. When W sent the disaffected Balkan Muslim boy home for a martyrs funeral after the Utah Mall shootings, you might have got a glimpse of W’s loyalty to his Muslim friends.

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I checked Wiki’s TIDE entry when the last post was published this morning. In it’s intro paragraph, the “international” in international terrorist was italicized, which I found kind of odd.

I can understand why it might be, but I hope the significance of that is not the reason the FBI “found no evidence” or why they dropped him from the TIDE database before he returned from Russia.

Could the “found no evidence” really mean a very strict “no evidence of an international connection” and not include a growingly rabid radical jihadi demeanor?

Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Alex Wagner mocking beck and conspiracy theories
Tool for dear leader

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I’d love to browse the FBI investigation file. Did they find Tamerlan’s name connected to the triple murder of his friends or was the investigation over by the time that happened on the 10th anniversary of 9/11?

Another question. The TIDE database is used to generate the FBI’s NCIC (National Crime Information Center) for state and local law enforcement. Was Tamerlan’s name put on the list for Boston area state and local law enforcement while he was being investigated and did it stay on the list until the case was deactivated while Tamerlan was on his trip to Russia?

Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Suleimanova said one of the suspects’ uncles approached the imam of a Boston mosque attended by the brothers to request a burial and funeral service but was declined.

That is the mosque in Cambridge as I recall. According to reporting in Power Line, the NY Times-owned Boston Globe has been desperately trying to obscure the Bomb Brothers’ association with that mosque:

About That Mosque…

The Boston Globe has been engaged in serious damage control on behalf of the Cambridge mosque attended by Tamerlan Tsarnaev. In “About that mosque,” we noted the mosque’s well known Islamist flavor. There’s a story there, and Oren Dorell glimpses it in USA Today’s “Mosque that Boston suspects attended has radical ties.”

Dorell’s article is must reading …

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/04/23/boston-mosque-radicals/2101411/

Del Dolemonte on April 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM

“I’d love to browse the FBI investigation file. Did they find Tamerlan’s name connected to the triple murder of his friends or was the investigation over by the time that happened on the 10th anniversary of 9/11?”

[Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 12:06 PM]

It’s extremely coincidental that that murder took place on the 10th anniversary of 9/11 and even more coincidental if Tamerlan was the murderer and he did it only because Mess was giving his little brother marijuana, which I had seen mention of.

Then he goes to Russia. If he was seeking credentials and a solid for having Chechen terrorists given him some training, I think that would do it.

Dusty on April 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM

we don’t want to target the people of the muslim faith
-alex wagner

the sympathizing on msdnc is absolutely pathetic…

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Alex Wagner mocking beck and conspiracy theories
Tool for dear leader

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Monica Lewinski was a troubled young woman who Bill Clinton was helping…… until that dress emerged.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Benghazi shold have been enough to end Obamas presidency. And now this info coming to light on the bombers. The Obama presidency should be derailed because of this. But it wont. And most Americans, like with Benghazi wont care. Sad.

Jack_Burton on April 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Benghazi shold have been enough to end Obamas presidency.

Jack_Burton on April 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Benghazi itself, no. That shouldn’t bring down the Presidency but it should have resulted in a whole lot of career-ending resignations. What should have ended the rat-eared cowards presidency was the lying he, Clinton, and Rice did in the immediate aftermath and even to this day.

Like Watergate, it isn’t about the crime it is about the lying after.

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 12:21 PM

heh

cmsinaz on April 24, 2013 at 12:26 PM

While this may be a reliable report, for now, I’d take it with a grain of salt. Even if Russian sources are reporting this, Putin would love to humiliate the US and Obama, and this is an opportunity. The Russians could be playing games with us…or telling the truth. It will be hard to sort it out one way or the other.

HakerA on April 24, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Agents and cops may forget a name, but they seldom forget a face. And had an investigator exclaimed, “Hey, I know that guy!” the FBI and the Boston cops could have been outside the Tsarnaev home in 15 minutes. Tamerlan and his younger brother, Dzhokhar, might have been grabbed before the public release of their pictures, before they turned so desperate that they walked up to the cruiser where Collier sat and allegedly executed him.

Are you kidding me? How on earth could anyone – especially among FBI profilers, interrogators, etc – forget a name like Tamerlan ???? Seriously??? Then these people are really useless. With the exception of J Carney who, I have no doubt knows three Tamerlans, I challenge anyone who knows a Tamerlan to pls, step forward :) (history books don’t count :)

jimver on April 24, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Your Idiot in Chief

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 1:15 PM

On the Watch List is good. So, how are we coming with an Action List? Is there one? Is anyone on it?

It seems like ending up on the Watch List is like having something on your Permanent Record at school. They make it sound like it’s a dire consequence but it means nothing.

Lily on April 24, 2013 at 1:16 PM

So screwups don’t want to admit they screwed up and people died? Amazing.

The Rogue Tomato on April 24, 2013 at 1:16 PM

When do we call for Incompitano’s head?
maryo on April 24, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Careful. Islam takes that phrase literally.

happytobehere on April 24, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Henceforth, these two should only be referred to as Flash Bang and Speed Bump (thanks to a Howie Carr caller). Rush just said some callers have been using Speed Bump.

kmcguire on April 24, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Perhaps the FBI thought they were still dealing with commie Ruskies using forbidden words like Islam, terrorists and Muslim and decided discretion is the better part of PC valor.

BL@KBIRD on April 24, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Given that radical Islam terrorism has been written out of the FBI training, would the agents even know what the Russians were talking about?

Happy Nomad on April 24, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Reacting to the Russian warnings would require an agent to be willing to go rogue and ignore department policy. That could be a career-limiting move.

slickwillie2001 on April 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM

The DHS and FBi are utterly incompetent. The only reasonable question is, is it willful?

VorDaj on April 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM

The DHS and FBi are utterly incompetent. The only reasonable question is, is it willful?

Dunno if it’s willful, but it sure is deliberate. Those holding important positions are there for a reason….and its not for doing a bang up job keeping our nation secure….except maybe from our own military vets, gun owning conservatives and those affiliated with TEA parties.

hawkeye54 on April 24, 2013 at 1:50 PM

GLENN BECK, et.al. are all over this with new info just released….there is a major, major cover-up trying to be formed and as of now, its not working.

LordMaximus on April 24, 2013 at 11:06 AM

After Fast & Furious, Benghazi, etc., do you really think it matters if Glenn Beck or anyone else releases damaging facts?

The Rogue Tomato on April 24, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Breaking: Saudi Student Alharbi Visited the White House Several Times

sentinelrules on April 24, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Ofcourse he did, and so will this Joker Tsar and his family one day party with the Mooch.
It’s the little kids who need to be kept away from the White House.

burrata on April 24, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Here’s something I didn’t know:

Click over to Walid’s site to read the rest which includes connections to the Saudi Prince who is the second largest shareholder at News Corp, parent company of Fox News.

http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-shoebat-exposes-shocking-arabic-facebook-page-of-failed-jihadi-terrorist-arrested-in-canada/

bluefox on April 24, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The women in the Boston saga are the stupidest.

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 2:12 PM

What other belief system speaks this way? Can’t think of any.

bluefox on April 24, 2013 at 2:31 PM

The women in the Boston saga are the stupidest.

Schadenfreude on April 24, 2013 at 2:12 PM

I would expect nothing less from the woman who named her
first- born after the barbaric monster–Taimur-e-lang :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

Now for some sweet irony :
Edgar Allan Poe glorified this muslim barbarian and published this work not under his real name but under the name…..wait for it….as …….” A Bostonian”
:D

burrata on April 24, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Here’s a possible explanation from a guy I don’t know and have no connection…

d1carter on April 24, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Well, the problem Beck fans will have with that is that it makes sense.
And that’s just what ‘they’ want you to think.

verbaluce on April 24, 2013 at 3:07 PM

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