Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill. His ties to the tea party base are so deep that reformers were constantly worried he’d abandon negotiations rather than risk an inevitable backlash by signing onto a compromise. Rubio made light of the dynamic at a press conference introducing the legislation on Thursday when he took the podium, said “Actually, I changed my mind,” and pretended to walk off.

It’s created tension at times with more progressive reformers, but Rubio’s general strategy has been to acknowledge conservative complaints about the bill even while he refuses to back off his support. After reform skeptics in the Senate complained the process was moving too fast, for example, he fought to make sure there were multiple hearings on the bill. He’s spent much of the week appearing on conservative talk radio shows, many of which are hosted by skeptics — even leading opponents — of reform. And his office launched a website devoted entirely to knocking down “myths” about immigration reform, including a false claim this week on conservative blogs that the bill would give free “amnesty phones” to undocumented immigrants.

“It’s tragic that a nation of immigrants remains divided on immigration,” Rubio said at the presser.

None of the other “Gang of 8” Republicans have particularly strong followings on the populist right, so Rubio is really the only option when it comes to this kind of outreach. He’ll face another big test this month containing the fallout from the Boston bombing, where he’s already trying to ease Republican concerns about the bill’s national security implications.

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Extrapolating 2012 voting trends to elections several cycles in the future is an inherently speculative exercise. Under a 13-year path to citizenship, this would mean most undocumented immigrants could join the voting rolls in the 2028 presidential election (though the proposed 5-year timeline for citizenship under the DREAM Act and for agricultural workers would start the process even earlier than that). But it is one that highlights the political sword hanging over Republicans as they consider immigration reform with a path to citizenship, an idea that is already deeply unpopular with many red-state constituencies.

To support the measure virtually guarantees millions of new Democratic voters. But for Republicans to oppose immigration reform invites hostility among Hispanic-Americans who already are punishing the GOP and imperiling its electoral prospects…

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

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But the legislation’s most critical amnesty comes right away, before even the pretense of beefed-up security. Illegal aliens will get their illegal status removed six months after the bill is passed upon payment of $500. The formerly illegal aliens will be allowed to remain in the country legally, under so-called “probationary status,” for ten years (while those who wish to enter the country legally wait patiently in their home countries for permission to enter). This lawful presence is virtually everything that most would-be illegal aliens hope for, since few cross the border with any desire to become U.S. citizens. After the 1986 amnesty, the naturalization rate of newly legalized Hispanics remained depressed. Only after the passage of California’s Proposition 187, which barred illegal aliens from receiving government benefits, did Hispanic petitions for citizenship increase somewhat…

The political effects of the proposed amnesty won’t benefit the GOP, whatever the party’s hopes might be. Hispanics will not shift their vote to Republicans in the next presidential election unless Republicans promote the same big-government programs, such as Obamacare, that attract Hispanics to the Democratic Party in the first place. So Republican handwringing over how to woo the Hispanic vote will begin all over again, and the next solution will be to convert probationers immediately to legal permanent-resident or citizenship status. Expect to hear the mantra: “Bring the probationers out from the shadows.”

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Cruz hasn’t yet decided whether to become the face of the opposition. But if he does, the Texan could burnish his conservative credentials and establish himself as a right-wing foil to Rubio as well as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) — who has expressed support for legalizing undocumented immigrants — in a potential 2016 bid.

But if Cruz were to lead the fight against the comprehensive plan, it could also spark a revolt from the large — and growing — population of Texas Hispanics who opposed his candidacy in large numbers in 2012. Cruz’s thinking will be on fresh display Monday, when witnesses testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee could be subjected to his prosecutorial style of questioning…

“I briefed him on it and his staff, but I don’t think he’s prepared to support it — he’s got a lot of questions, and they’re legitimate questions,” Rubio said…

Last year, Cruz was losing the Hispanic vote by about 30 percent in a state where there were 4.4 million Latino voters last cycle, amounting to more than 27 percent of the electorate, according to polling conducted on the eve of the election by the firm Latino Decisions. Immigration was the second most important issue behind the economy for Latino voters in Texas, according to the firm.

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Breitbart News: What do you make of the conservative response to the Senate bill so far?

Rep. Ryan: I don’t think it’s a unified response. I think there have been different views. We’re the party who believes in the rule of law and economic growth. We’re the party that believes in upward mobility and opportunity. And so we’re the party who believes in a functional immigration system, and the principles we’re talking about are important principles, and if they are embodied in immigration reform it will be successful in a long-term, enduring way.

Breitbart News: Do you trust the Democrats to make a commitment to border security?

Rep. Ryan: We’re trying to negotiate. Now is not the time to question the other side’s motives.

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“We could have had a bill that was crafted by [Sen.] Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), or we could have a guy like Marco fighting his tail off in the Senate trying to make sure we didn’t end up with a bill that was a Democratic party wish list,” said Florida based Republican strategist Rick Wilson. “I’m all for calling out the stupid. But [conservative critics] are engaging in some red on red fratricide that is both unnecessary and dangerous and will have a net result that is negative for Republicans and conservatives.”…

In a statement to BuzzFeed, Pollak wrote, “Sen. Rubio enjoys enormous respect among conservatives and was given a great deal of leeway at first. As more details of the bill have emerged, however, it has become clear that he cannot deliver on his promise to achieve security first. In addition, the rushed process is a repeat of Obamacare. Increasingly, Rubio is representing the ‘Gang of 8′ to conservatives, rather than representing conservatives to the ‘Gang of 8.’ Rubio has in many ways made himself the ‘face’ of the bill by making it a signature issue and, among other things, appearing on a record seven talk shows in one day to promote it. In 2010, Rubio was elected over Charlie Crist because conservatives wanted to fight the go-along-to-get-along establishment. Hence growing concern about his support for this fatally flawed, 844-page bill that we are told must be passed within a few weeks.”…

“I have no animus towards Rubio… If he went out in a straightforward way [and said], ‘We need amnesty and we are going to spend all this money on border enforcement’ that would be one thing, but that he has fake border triggers that are trying to con conservatives seems unfortunate. And then if you have to wonder, how much does Rubio know what’s actually in the bill,” Kaus said…

“I’ve been calling it Schumer-Rubio. That’s not an accident. Also, Schumer has not been the one calling Schumer-Rubio opponents, ‘hysterical.’ That has been Rubio’s job,” [Conn Carroll] wrote. “There is clearly a campaign by pro-amnesty forces to brand all conservatives who oppose amnesty as racists. Rubio, unfortunately, appears to be leading that campaign.”

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The strange thing about the Republican members in the Gang of Eight debate is that to ram through immigration legislation, they and their supporters are beginning to adopt the same sort of tactics that we have seen used by the Left during the fights over Obamacare and gun control: obfuscate the issue by imprecise vocabulary and ahistorical allusions; demonize your opponents with all sorts of crazy accusations of quasi-tolerance of “slavery” to abortion; create a false sort of urgency (we are supposed to pass this very minute the huge and mostly unread immigration bill in the manner of the huge and unread Obamacare bill); and speak loftily of principles and humanitarianism when the issue is mostly driven by electoral politics and demography.

Finally, given the language of Conant and others, they are managing to turn off their own reasonable supporters, who are more than willing to consider a “pathway to citizenship” for those who are free of a criminal past, are not on public assistance, and are long-term residents — if only the assurances to enforce those provisions and ensure border security were believable. The present hysteria, invective, and mass rush to legislate suggest that they might not be.

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Schumer ran rings around Gang of Eight Republicans. Those Republicans gave away the store on every important issue. This immigration bill is a disaster. But why? Were our negotiators just stupid? I don’t think so. They were desperate. They believed that it was necessary to put the immigration issue “behind them” if the party was to prosper. Schumer used that desperation to stampede our negotiators into buying a bad bill…

They’re acting out of desperation, and what we’ve gotten from that is a disaster of a bill. Well it’s got to stop. Republicans need to snap out of it, wake up, and kill this bill. Circumstances have changed. Obama lost on the sequester and lost on gun control. The left is tearing itself apart on energy issues and making a fool of itself on terrorism. There’s no need for conservatives to go along with nonsense like this bill. It’s time to stop the surrender. This spirit of capitulation ends here, ends now.

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Regardless, if this is a time for choosing — and one gets the sense that it is — then I’m more concerned about long-term consequences than short-term setbacks. It is much more likely (and problematic) for the GOP to damage its image for a generation, than to lose some House races in 2014.

If the bill fails, it probably also matters how it goes down. Does it fade away (less likely), or does it go down in a blaze of glory? Is it perceived that Republicans are solely to blame (highly probable), or can the blame be spread around (as with the failed gun control bill)?

These are not arguments for passing bad legislation, but I suspect opponents of immigration reform underestimate the potential consequences.

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The Senate will be first to act this year, and the bill needs 60 votes to pass. With Mr. Rubio supporting it, Mr. Graham says it can get 70 votes, including half of the 45 Republicans. He suggests passage by 48 Democrats and 22 Republicans. That’s optimistic but not impossible…

Mr. Bell, a former adviser to Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp, goes further, arguing that Republicans shouldn’t worry about who gets credit for successful reform. “If Democrats get 10 times more credit, it’s still in Republicans’ interest,” he says. “It will free them” to compete for votes that, more often than not, were beyond their reach.

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I don’t completely understand Becks theory. I only catch part of it. Saudi bankroll?

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

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How much of which broadcast did you watch and/or hear ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Practicing for when the religion of pieces takes over?

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

They’re gonna just LOVE the huge, honkin’ azz Star of David necklace that I ordered today.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

And yet Ted Cruz still won so I guess there are still more patriotic Americans in Texas than there are foreign invaders, as there should be. Let’s keep it that way.

FloatingRock on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I know! He didn’t even campaign after he won the primary!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

teaching in one of the Universities in CA. She has a spot on Fox on one of their weekend shows. She also has a syndicated column I think they said Wednesdays and Fridays.

CoffeeLover on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

ALT- didn’t you get the CCW bra? If you need a fashion opinion, I’m game. ;)

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Ha.
In order to wear one of those, you need something to fill it up with.
///
*My holster’s made by the same company.*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Nicely done. Miss you around here lately… Scrumpy bailed tonight.

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Sacramento on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Susan Estrich…the political pro who told Dukakis that all he had to do was get in the tank, put on the helmet and his cred with all the veterans would skyrocket. That Susan Estrich?

Yeah…Schmidt fits the mold.

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

No longer just about giving the illegals amnesty.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I agree. No wonder this Country is in the shape it’s in. We have some in D.C. that are supporting our enemies. Then those like Ryan & Rubio among others, can’t even recognize friend from foe. I think most of us here had that ability before we even started school.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Pregnant silhouette! :)

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

How much longer are Ryan and Rubio going be able to pretend they have conservative creds? Days after the election they were already pushing amnesty for the illegals as social justice. I’m ready for a real conservative.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Paul Ryan couldn’t even beat Joe Biden in a debate.

ANYONE associated with any gop Presidential campaign back to 1988 should be laughed at.

I knew Paul Ryan was just a Boehner wonk and bootlicker when they trotted out the “Young Guns” on the Today show…..VOMIT!!!!

PappyD61 on April 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Your death will be swift. If you can get three, it will be painless.

Its never been done, though.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:16 PM

ALT- didn’t you get the CCW bra? If you need a fashion opinion, I’m game. ;)

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

…yeah!…you just want to practice ….drawing from her holster!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Scrumpy I know exactly how you feel and I share your frustration and anger. Take a step back, read a good book, gaze at the scenery in your neighborhood, bake a cake, play pick up sticks. Walk away for a bit.

But remember you will be missed. In the middle of all this mess, just seeing your thoughts and/or just simply SWOOSH makes me smile. So don’t stay away too long.

You are needed to help keep my sanity in this FUBAR world.

CoffeeLover on April 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Upon your deathbed you will receive total consciousness.

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

WHY this push for increased immigration, for amnesty (that’s what is being attempted, regardless of the other words applied to “it” by Progressives)?

In contrast, what we need to do now is:

– stop all immigration from Muslim and Communist areas and countries;

– stop chain immigration;

– greatly limit/decrease “student visa” programs to Muslim and COmmunist nations if not eliminate it for a time; and,

– increase sustained enforcement of existing laws.

Do all that, then let’s talk about, after about two to five years at least, some sort of “immmigration reform”.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

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Your death will be swift. If you can get three, it will be painless.

Its never been done, though.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:16 PM

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I guess that’s a worth while reward.

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill.

What? Are there REALLY still people who are dumb enough to believe that Rubio is a “CONSERVATIVE”? Seriously, all one has to do is listen to him babble on and on about how great his AMNESTY plan is, to know that he is a LIBERAL/PROGRESSIVE at heart, and a blithering idiot and/or a pathological liar.

Rubio was desperate to make himself the face of AMNESTY for ILLEGALS, one of obama’s top priorities – and now he has to live with the consequences; Rubio has turned against America, and in so doing, has thrown his political future in the crapper.

Pork-Chop on April 23, 2013 at 11:18 PM

I wouldn’t buy a used car from Marco Rubio… or any other member of the Gang of Eight.

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I can’t handle it. I’ll be in my own little world. I’ll be throwing tunes out here and there; please just ignore them if you are fiercely on topic. I’ll be quiet.

But the legislation’s most critical amnesty comes right away, before even the pretense of beefed-up security. Illegal aliens will get their illegal status removed six months after the bill is passed upon payment of $500.

^bump

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

In-the-waistband holster. Hips I got. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Susan Estrich…the political pro who told Dukakis that all he had to do was get in the tank, put on the helmet and his cred with all the veterans would skyrocket. That Susan Estrich?

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

I give Suzie a break here. The utter irony of that photo-op was that Dukakis was, in fact, a tank officer in the Army.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

…lol…B R A V O !

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Scrumpy on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

We all need a break once in a while:-) I haven’t and don’t intend to watch any TV news of any channel. I read certain websites & listen to some talk radio.

Plant some flowers and veggies, read a good book and sit on the porch in the sunshine. Oh, don’t forget that nice chair Fallon set up for you:-)

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

Actually, rumor is Newt on the couch with steffie cutter..

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:17 PM

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In-the-waistband holster. Hips I got. *sigh*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

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Aw, yeah . . . . . . . . . we like “hips”.

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

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Are you going to respond to my reply/question, at the top of this page ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Chrissy!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Bird On A Wire – Cocker

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Dukakis an armor officer?

Served in Korea circa 1956, was only in the army for two years. Thought he was a radio operator. Enlisted.

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I know. I read that and wanted to throw up my hands.

I think to myself, Ryan, you are a grown man with children, you are not an 8 year old and at this point in your life you ought to be able to realize D.C. is full of crocodiles. Have you never dealt with liars before? You sat there while Obama insulted you. Don’t you get it? If you’re this clueless, then leave D.C., because you’ll do nothing but harm.

It’s either that, Ryan, or you’re the most unwieldy and lame liar in D.C., because how could you say such a thing with a straight face.

Smiling Faces Somtimes

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:25 PM

SPRITELY ONE… the Glade will be here for you when you’re ready. :)

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I agree. No wonder this Country is in the shape it’s in. We have some in D.C. that are supporting our enemies. Then those like Ryan & Rubio among others, can’t even recognize friend from foe. I think most of us here had that ability before we even started school.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

IMHO, when it comes to “immigration” it is about common sense. Only extend citizenship to those that can contribute to our society, are willing to assimilate into that society, and are here legally.

The Tsarnaev brothers paint a clear picture. Individuals here who got all the benefits of our society but never bothered assimilating. Their father went back to Russia even though they were only able to enter America through political asylum policies.

Rubio, Ryan and others want to make immigration all about fast-tracking amnesty for the illegals but it is a far more complex an issue. It should not get through the Senate on only a few hours debate.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

Chrissy!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:24 PM

:)

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

First 2 hours of radio. He’s dribbling it out which I get. Brietbart style. Who are the Congressman in on it? Or on to it? That have the paper?
Is the Saudi the bank?

All I know is napoleontano is lying her ass off.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

…QOTD…10:41…boy…it’s no Friday night date night!…was the cat sick?

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

It could be one of those Noo Yawk matchmaker dating services where one is promised the perfect spouse-to-be on Friday then rushed into the witness protection program by Tuesday…..

viking01 on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 PM

I’ll Take Care of You – Hart/Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 PM

First 2 hours of radio. He’s dribbling it out which I get. Brietbart style. Who are the Congressman in on it? Or on to it? That have the paper?
Is the Saudi the bank?

All I know is napoleontano is lying her ass off.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

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Did you get hour two, yesterday ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Hence growing concern about his support for this fatally flawed, 844-page bill that we are told must be passed within a few weeks.”…

Why?

Why is it imperative that this amnesty bill (which it is) MUST be passed in the “next few weeks”? Is the gang of 8 afraid that the illegal aliens will all go home if the bill isn’t rushed through?

WHAT is the rush on it? Why is there no time for hearings, discussion, debate and citizen participation in this process?
Are we going to be subjected to another, “pass the bill to find out what’s in it” operation?

This whole rush to get it rammed through without any discussion stinks out loud. And it looks more and more like the gang that can’t shoot straight is trying to pull a(nother) fast one on us.

Solaratov on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 PM

What do you mean ‘we’ kemo sabe?

wolfsDad on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Thanks. I’ve had a lot of extra duties! That “we” sounds like the ‘gill:-)

Hope all is well with you & the gang!!

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:30 PM

“You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich. You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong. You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift. You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down. You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred. You cannot build character and courage by taking away people’s initiative and independence. You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.” Abraham Lincoln

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I know. I read that and wanted to throw up my hands.

I think to myself, Ryan, you are a grown man with children, you are not an 8 year old and at this point in your life you ought to be able to realize D.C. is full of crocodiles. Have you never dealt with liars before? You sat there while Obama insulted you. Don’t you get it? If you’re this clueless, then leave D.C., because you’ll do nothing but harm.

It’s either that, Ryan, or you’re the most unwieldy and lame liar in D.C., because how could you say such a thing with a straight face.

Smiling Faces Somtimes

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:25 PM

lol — the world just shifted on its axis. INC said, “[I] wanted to throw up my hands.” — Did. Not. See. That. Coming. :)

You really think it’s naivete? I suppose it is. He doesn’t seem unintelligent, and if he’s dishonest, I didn’t see that coming either.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:31 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

…an hour of waterboarding!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Joel Pollack has it exactly right:

“Increasingly, Rubio is representing the ‘Gang of 8′ to conservatives, rather than representing conservatives to the ‘Gang of 8.’”

Conn Carroll and Mickey Kaus have it exactly right. This is Scummer’s bill, not Rubio’s, and every time I hear Rubio talk about it I am more convinced he has no idea what is in it. This is zero border security and immediate legalization. This will result in a flood of new aliens via chain migration and no one will leave.

This will not stop illegal immigration, and will ultimately result in a fundamental shift in our population…all from illegal aliens. This is cultural suicide.

Jaibones on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

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…an hour of waterboarding!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

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That sort of like ‘surf boarding’, right ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:34 PM

In my time commenting here, IMHO the one issue that unites the board against D.C. is amnesty.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Naked – Mann’s Chinese

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

G-string holster? *sigh* okay, I’m still willing.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Moon Dew – Cocker

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Seven Percent Solution on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I was polite 7% *clink*

uncommon sense on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

AWRIGHT ! … Pages one and two …………….. what do I win ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

…an hour of waterboarding!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

Or a discarded iPod full of Oblamer’s speeches with “Dieu et mon Droit” engraved on it… which could make the waterboarding the less painful choice.

viking01 on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

I’ll Take Care of You – Hart/Bonamassa

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Hi, ‘vette. :)

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Where is Spark with that Glade Food Truck? I’m feeling peckish.

I’m thinking perhaps a nice moon bean salad with moon dew dressing, and a sparkling moon bean wine. :)

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Oh, that is awesome Bmore!!! Good one, LOL

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Bmore, long time no hear… hope all is well?

uncommon sense on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Fallon has hit a rough patch. The Gulch has gathered around her, and she’s managing it pretty well.

wolfsDad on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

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…an hour of waterboarding!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

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That sort of like ‘surf boarding’, right ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:34 PM

…not according to the way Bishop administrates that sport…and I saw him with one of those water-cooler jugs!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Bmore, long time no hear… hope all is well?

uncommon sense on April 23, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Emailed you, but had no response… is that still a good addie?

uncommon sense on April 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Or a discarded iPod full of Oblamer’s speeches with “Dieu et mon Droit” engraved on it… which could make the waterboarding the less painful choice.

viking01 on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

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Ooooh … ouch !

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:36 PM

Good evening, Axefellow. :) Did I mention that the convertible top is tan, tan interior, and the wheels are custom ordered chrome with gold hubs? So if you ever see one… you never know ….:)

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:40 PM

How much longer are Ryan and Rubio going be able to pretend they have conservative creds? Days after the election they were already pushing amnesty for the illegals as social justice. I’m ready for a real conservative.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Well, I’m waiting for a Facebook post from Sarah:-)

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Dedicated to all y’all horndawgs.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

IMHO the one issue that unites the board against D.C. is amnesty.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Importation of a permanent, unassimilated underclass will do that.

wolfsDad on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Moonlight Mile – Rolling Stones

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

This is Scummer’s bill, not Rubio’s, and every time I hear Rubio talk about it I am more convinced he has no idea what is in it.

Jaibones on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 PM

You mean like the way Toomey/Manchin were left holding the bag for expanded background checks? That too was Schumer’s legislation but under cover of two idiots with good NRA ratings. Rubio is Schumer’s idiot on amnesty.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Meet the welfare terrorist…somehow I knew this but thought he might be selling drugs…maybe both?

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 11:37 PM

We can’t track these subhuman bastards except to pay them their welfare benefits…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 11:43 PM

IMHO the one issue that unites the board against D.C. is amnesty.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 PM

…that’s what we thought about Obamacare too!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:43 PM

I knew Paul Ryan was just a Boehner wonk and bootlicker when they trotted out the “Young Guns” on the Today show…..VOMIT!!!!

PappyD61 on April 23, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Oh, yeah. One of those “young guns” is Eric Cantor, a Speaker wannabe.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Check out all the players…

Mark Zuckerberg group launches TV blitz

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/mark-zuckerberg-immigration-group-launches-tv-blitz-90511.html

idesign on April 23, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Dedicated to all y’all horndawgs.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

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“We’re FIERCE, we’re FEMINISTS, and we’re IN YOUR FACE !

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:44 PM

Sa m’énerve. :) English lyrics.

ded. b9. :)

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

It “oozes” with disdain for conservatives.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

That Depends….

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

+100

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Dedicated to all y’all horndawgs.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

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I almost forgot ………. is that something like a “corndog”?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

No, I worked late yesterday. Beck is on 3-6pm here. That’s what I’m getting at. I’m missing chapters. So I don’t see the big picture.
He’s always been right. I Don’t know what he has this time. He gets in the dirt. I don’t doubt he has something.

Just do me a favor and sum it up, so I can follow.

Like a coloring book, start with the outline and fill it in. It’s not Nancy Drew.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Levin raked Ryan over the coals somewhat. I don’t know what is wrong with Rubio & now Ryan. They are now on my DO NOT VOTE List.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Ryan has long been an establishment Republican. He has voted for No Child Left Behind, Medicare D, TARP, the auto bailout, every debt ceiling increase and other spending bills.

Rubio wants to be the first Hispanic President. Ryan wants to be President too, but demonstrated last fall that he isn’t much of a campaignen.

I got so frustrated with Levin that I will stop listening for a while. He bashes the other seven and attacks a columnist from the Washington Examiner who wrote a column critical of Rubio. Rubio is the guy leading the puch for amnesty and Levin keeps defending him.

bw222 on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I guess I need to simmer down in my intensity, huh? :) (Do not answer!).

I remember a brief period, say back in 2005 or so, when GWB had won the election before he started raising the hackles through Miers and amnesty, when things were lighthearted by comparison. Sarah Palin was a ray of light (hi, bluegill!), but since 2008 things have been sort of grim. Not just at the political level, but through hits at the personal level from the trickle effect of D.C. policies. I keep mislaying my sense of humor, and it keeps getting harder to relocate. I’ve felt so off-balance, I may walk sideways the rest of my life.

As for Ryan, we know he’s intelligent, and I lean towards naivete as over against dishonesty. You can be a nice guy, but if you don’t have any wisdom or discernment about people or you think evil is a sort of remote thing that once happened in the past, then you’re merely a patsy.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Refugee – Petty

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Actually, rumor is Newt on the couch with steffie cutter..

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:21 PM

I saw that!! Couldn’t they find anyone with some intelligence? Newt will destroy her, no contest.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Girdle up your loins for the grand divorce, except I don’t think it’ll be Texas leading the way. Then who? OK?

AH_C on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Quite possibly Kansas.

Solaratov on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

…that’s what we thought about Obamacare too!

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Forgot about that for some reason!

I guess amnesty is sort of the zombie issue. It never seems to go away and die.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

I almost forgot ………. is that something like a “corndog”?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

*Glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Rubio is Schumer’s idiot on amnesty.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:42 PM

Just like 2007, these dopes are 100% about the politics, and zero about stopping illegal immigration. This is about demographics and electoral disadvantage.

Jaibones on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Mariachi Ocho

Bmore on April 23, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Ms. Lindsey needs a pink skirt.

How do you explain the “Mariachi Ocho”? Sincere question.

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Quite possibly Kansas.

Solaratov on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

Tiller the Killer’s patron came from Kansas. It’ll be Texas.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM

You Don’t Know How It Feels – Petty

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:50 PM

I almost forgot ………. is that something like a “corndog”?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

*Glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

The first *glare*.
Should have gone for the horn dog, man.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Quite possibly Kansas.

Solaratov on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

I’d like to know why Kansas. North Dakota would be the best choice to go first (since they could definitely survive separation)

nobar on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Great Lincoln quote. That’s a fact.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

I thought so, too, Wolly. Please re-post it whenever you feel it’s appropriate. I’d like the Left to hear it echoing in their skulls. :)

thatsafactjack on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Yellow Safety Jacket

Schadenfreude on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

Rubio, Ryan and others want to make immigration all about fast-tracking amnesty for the illegals but it is a far more complex an issue. It should not get through the Senate on only a few hours debate.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 PM

It appears to me that most all of the legislation and bills that have been signed into law were for the wrong motive. Can’t think of any that has been good for the Country or the American people.

Congress is the reason for the Boston Murders and all others.

Don’t forget to bookmark and read:

http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-shoebat-exclusive-the-boston-bombers-radicalization-myth-vs-fact/

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 PM

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

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Okay ……. I can help you with that ………..
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Video #1 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=df91RJYAw4k
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Video #2 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvpvpD9_ybI
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That’s the second hour of radio yesterday, in two parts.

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

I almost forgot ………. is that something like a “corndog”?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 PM

*Glares*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 PM

The first *glare*.
Should have gone for the horn dog, man.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

Not. Enough. Proz@c. On earth.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Quite possibly Kansas.

Solaratov on April 23, 2013 at 11:48 PM

I’d like to know why Kansas. North Dakota would be the best choice to go first (since they could definitely survive separation)

nobar on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 PM

North Dakota, Alaska, and Texas.
We have the oil. You pay NOW!

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Even the losers..

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

This modern GOP party – petty

uncommon sense on April 23, 2013 at 11:55 PM

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