Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 23, 2013 by Allahpundit

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill. His ties to the tea party base are so deep that reformers were constantly worried he’d abandon negotiations rather than risk an inevitable backlash by signing onto a compromise. Rubio made light of the dynamic at a press conference introducing the legislation on Thursday when he took the podium, said “Actually, I changed my mind,” and pretended to walk off.

It’s created tension at times with more progressive reformers, but Rubio’s general strategy has been to acknowledge conservative complaints about the bill even while he refuses to back off his support. After reform skeptics in the Senate complained the process was moving too fast, for example, he fought to make sure there were multiple hearings on the bill. He’s spent much of the week appearing on conservative talk radio shows, many of which are hosted by skeptics — even leading opponents — of reform. And his office launched a website devoted entirely to knocking down “myths” about immigration reform, including a false claim this week on conservative blogs that the bill would give free “amnesty phones” to undocumented immigrants.

“It’s tragic that a nation of immigrants remains divided on immigration,” Rubio said at the presser.

None of the other “Gang of 8” Republicans have particularly strong followings on the populist right, so Rubio is really the only option when it comes to this kind of outreach. He’ll face another big test this month containing the fallout from the Boston bombing, where he’s already trying to ease Republican concerns about the bill’s national security implications.

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Extrapolating 2012 voting trends to elections several cycles in the future is an inherently speculative exercise. Under a 13-year path to citizenship, this would mean most undocumented immigrants could join the voting rolls in the 2028 presidential election (though the proposed 5-year timeline for citizenship under the DREAM Act and for agricultural workers would start the process even earlier than that). But it is one that highlights the political sword hanging over Republicans as they consider immigration reform with a path to citizenship, an idea that is already deeply unpopular with many red-state constituencies.

To support the measure virtually guarantees millions of new Democratic voters. But for Republicans to oppose immigration reform invites hostility among Hispanic-Americans who already are punishing the GOP and imperiling its electoral prospects…

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

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But the legislation’s most critical amnesty comes right away, before even the pretense of beefed-up security. Illegal aliens will get their illegal status removed six months after the bill is passed upon payment of $500. The formerly illegal aliens will be allowed to remain in the country legally, under so-called “probationary status,” for ten years (while those who wish to enter the country legally wait patiently in their home countries for permission to enter). This lawful presence is virtually everything that most would-be illegal aliens hope for, since few cross the border with any desire to become U.S. citizens. After the 1986 amnesty, the naturalization rate of newly legalized Hispanics remained depressed. Only after the passage of California’s Proposition 187, which barred illegal aliens from receiving government benefits, did Hispanic petitions for citizenship increase somewhat…

The political effects of the proposed amnesty won’t benefit the GOP, whatever the party’s hopes might be. Hispanics will not shift their vote to Republicans in the next presidential election unless Republicans promote the same big-government programs, such as Obamacare, that attract Hispanics to the Democratic Party in the first place. So Republican handwringing over how to woo the Hispanic vote will begin all over again, and the next solution will be to convert probationers immediately to legal permanent-resident or citizenship status. Expect to hear the mantra: “Bring the probationers out from the shadows.”

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Cruz hasn’t yet decided whether to become the face of the opposition. But if he does, the Texan could burnish his conservative credentials and establish himself as a right-wing foil to Rubio as well as Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) — who has expressed support for legalizing undocumented immigrants — in a potential 2016 bid.

But if Cruz were to lead the fight against the comprehensive plan, it could also spark a revolt from the large — and growing — population of Texas Hispanics who opposed his candidacy in large numbers in 2012. Cruz’s thinking will be on fresh display Monday, when witnesses testifying before the Senate Judiciary Committee could be subjected to his prosecutorial style of questioning…

“I briefed him on it and his staff, but I don’t think he’s prepared to support it — he’s got a lot of questions, and they’re legitimate questions,” Rubio said…

Last year, Cruz was losing the Hispanic vote by about 30 percent in a state where there were 4.4 million Latino voters last cycle, amounting to more than 27 percent of the electorate, according to polling conducted on the eve of the election by the firm Latino Decisions. Immigration was the second most important issue behind the economy for Latino voters in Texas, according to the firm.

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Breitbart News: What do you make of the conservative response to the Senate bill so far?

Rep. Ryan: I don’t think it’s a unified response. I think there have been different views. We’re the party who believes in the rule of law and economic growth. We’re the party that believes in upward mobility and opportunity. And so we’re the party who believes in a functional immigration system, and the principles we’re talking about are important principles, and if they are embodied in immigration reform it will be successful in a long-term, enduring way.

Breitbart News: Do you trust the Democrats to make a commitment to border security?

Rep. Ryan: We’re trying to negotiate. Now is not the time to question the other side’s motives.

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“We could have had a bill that was crafted by [Sen.] Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), or we could have a guy like Marco fighting his tail off in the Senate trying to make sure we didn’t end up with a bill that was a Democratic party wish list,” said Florida based Republican strategist Rick Wilson. “I’m all for calling out the stupid. But [conservative critics] are engaging in some red on red fratricide that is both unnecessary and dangerous and will have a net result that is negative for Republicans and conservatives.”…

In a statement to BuzzFeed, Pollak wrote, “Sen. Rubio enjoys enormous respect among conservatives and was given a great deal of leeway at first. As more details of the bill have emerged, however, it has become clear that he cannot deliver on his promise to achieve security first. In addition, the rushed process is a repeat of Obamacare. Increasingly, Rubio is representing the ‘Gang of 8′ to conservatives, rather than representing conservatives to the ‘Gang of 8.’ Rubio has in many ways made himself the ‘face’ of the bill by making it a signature issue and, among other things, appearing on a record seven talk shows in one day to promote it. In 2010, Rubio was elected over Charlie Crist because conservatives wanted to fight the go-along-to-get-along establishment. Hence growing concern about his support for this fatally flawed, 844-page bill that we are told must be passed within a few weeks.”…

“I have no animus towards Rubio… If he went out in a straightforward way [and said], ‘We need amnesty and we are going to spend all this money on border enforcement’ that would be one thing, but that he has fake border triggers that are trying to con conservatives seems unfortunate. And then if you have to wonder, how much does Rubio know what’s actually in the bill,” Kaus said…

“I’ve been calling it Schumer-Rubio. That’s not an accident. Also, Schumer has not been the one calling Schumer-Rubio opponents, ‘hysterical.’ That has been Rubio’s job,” [Conn Carroll] wrote. “There is clearly a campaign by pro-amnesty forces to brand all conservatives who oppose amnesty as racists. Rubio, unfortunately, appears to be leading that campaign.”

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The strange thing about the Republican members in the Gang of Eight debate is that to ram through immigration legislation, they and their supporters are beginning to adopt the same sort of tactics that we have seen used by the Left during the fights over Obamacare and gun control: obfuscate the issue by imprecise vocabulary and ahistorical allusions; demonize your opponents with all sorts of crazy accusations of quasi-tolerance of “slavery” to abortion; create a false sort of urgency (we are supposed to pass this very minute the huge and mostly unread immigration bill in the manner of the huge and unread Obamacare bill); and speak loftily of principles and humanitarianism when the issue is mostly driven by electoral politics and demography.

Finally, given the language of Conant and others, they are managing to turn off their own reasonable supporters, who are more than willing to consider a “pathway to citizenship” for those who are free of a criminal past, are not on public assistance, and are long-term residents — if only the assurances to enforce those provisions and ensure border security were believable. The present hysteria, invective, and mass rush to legislate suggest that they might not be.

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Schumer ran rings around Gang of Eight Republicans. Those Republicans gave away the store on every important issue. This immigration bill is a disaster. But why? Were our negotiators just stupid? I don’t think so. They were desperate. They believed that it was necessary to put the immigration issue “behind them” if the party was to prosper. Schumer used that desperation to stampede our negotiators into buying a bad bill…

They’re acting out of desperation, and what we’ve gotten from that is a disaster of a bill. Well it’s got to stop. Republicans need to snap out of it, wake up, and kill this bill. Circumstances have changed. Obama lost on the sequester and lost on gun control. The left is tearing itself apart on energy issues and making a fool of itself on terrorism. There’s no need for conservatives to go along with nonsense like this bill. It’s time to stop the surrender. This spirit of capitulation ends here, ends now.

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Regardless, if this is a time for choosing — and one gets the sense that it is — then I’m more concerned about long-term consequences than short-term setbacks. It is much more likely (and problematic) for the GOP to damage its image for a generation, than to lose some House races in 2014.

If the bill fails, it probably also matters how it goes down. Does it fade away (less likely), or does it go down in a blaze of glory? Is it perceived that Republicans are solely to blame (highly probable), or can the blame be spread around (as with the failed gun control bill)?

These are not arguments for passing bad legislation, but I suspect opponents of immigration reform underestimate the potential consequences.

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The Senate will be first to act this year, and the bill needs 60 votes to pass. With Mr. Rubio supporting it, Mr. Graham says it can get 70 votes, including half of the 45 Republicans. He suggests passage by 48 Democrats and 22 Republicans. That’s optimistic but not impossible…

Mr. Bell, a former adviser to Ronald Reagan and Jack Kemp, goes further, arguing that Republicans shouldn’t worry about who gets credit for successful reform. “If Democrats get 10 times more credit, it’s still in Republicans’ interest,” he says. “It will free them” to compete for votes that, more often than not, were beyond their reach.

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L A S T !

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Bishop

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM

First!!

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:43 PM

I think “First” comes first
/

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:43 PM

L A S T !

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:42 PM

.
Dagnammit, I mean . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

. . . . . you all know what I meant. : )

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

State Law..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Totally over Rubio. Oh, and Christie. They both suck.

UncleZeb on April 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

If Democrats get 10 times more credit, it’s still in Republicans’ interest,” he says. “It will free them” to compete for votes that, more often than not, were beyond their reach.

What kind of f*cking logic is that?!

The stupid party has permanently lost me.

nobar on April 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Guess we’ll have to pass it before we can find out what is in it?

One thing is for certain…it is AMNESTY…writ large.

It is also the end of two-party politics in America.

Think all those new “Americans” on the path to citizenship will be voting heavily for Conservatives or Libertarians? Join the Tea party movement, perhaps?

Nope.

Say hello to at least several decades of Progressive-controlled politics in America.

As for Rubio…the shine to his star has tarnished a lot faster than many could have predicted just a short year ago.

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

. . . . . you all know what I meant. : )

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:44 PM

LOL

Obviously we can’t change history..

Oh wait…

“Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we’re going to have to change our traditions, our history; we’re going to have to move into a different place as a nation.”

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

L I A R

WisCon on April 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

First, last, whatever…

I’m here, ’til I’m gone.

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Sorry but I’ve said this from well before the Boston Marathon bombing. Immigration reform has to be about more than gifting citizenship to the illegals. The Tsarnaev brothers put a clear edge on that point.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

“It’s tragic that a nation of immigrants remains divided on immigration,” Rubio said at the presser.

Good grief! Right out of the Liberal playbook, Its OUR fault, now?

Cleombrotus on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Rubio, we hardly knew ye…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I’m here, ’til I’m gone.

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

*clink*

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Rubio, we hardly knew ye…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

And never will.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Marco Rubio‏@marcorubio5h
Help us improve the #immigrationreform bill. Send your suggestions here: http://www.rubio.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/help-us-improve-the-bill?ID=beb53cf6-7c87-4ada-9828-1c3a0b150537&LeaveComment=true

Try to be polite…

*Clinky!*

;)

Seven Percent Solution on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Mark Levin read a letter addressed to Paul Ryan about his “friendship” with Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL on Immigration.

Debra Burlingame to Paul Ryan: Do you know who you’re paling around with?.
by Mark Levin (Notes) on Tuesday, April 23, 2013 at 1:12pm.

http://www.facebook.com/notes/mark-levin/debra-burlingame-to-paul-ryan-do-you-know-who-youre-paling-around-with/10151351851685946

Article of the interview on Breitbart:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/23/Ryan-on-Immigration-Reform-I-Don-t-Worry-About-Moving-Too-Quickly

I read the letter she wrote. This Gutierrez guy is a bad guy!!
Levin raked Ryan over the coals somewhat. I don’t know what is wrong with Rubio & now Ryan. They are now on my DO NOT VOTE List.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

The Tsarnaev brothers put a clear edge on that point.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Think it’ll make any difference? I don’t. Haven’t seen any evidence that it’s getting through any thick skulls.

Cleombrotus on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Vetting millions should be no problem for this focused efficient government…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Whinnying!

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

As Rush said, why are Rubio et al considering something that the Dems are SALIVATING over? What more need be said?

Jackalope on April 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

What a disingenuous idiot.

Curtiss on April 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Levin raked Ryan over the coals somewhat. I don’t know what is wrong with Rubio & now Ryan. They are now on my DO NOT VOTE List.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I heard Levin today also..
Though Levin still calls Ryan a friend..
The distance is starting to grow..

In my opinion.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I still keep picturing those iphone pics of the gunfight and what the .270Win would have done to end it.

What was it,,80 yards?

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

I have somthing to say.

I am sick of the sound bites and bytes that are put out by the Media by our Politicians and by pundits.

I am no longer going to listen to or read anything considered of a political nature or of such a concern that all they do is LIE!

I am no longer going to play their game.

I am no longer going to claim a political party.

I refuse to bow down to their causing dissention amongst us.

I don’t care any longer.

I will not allow them to cause me anger.

I quit. I am done.

What ever the phuck happens will happen, I cannot change that.

God Bless you all, every one of you… :-)

I wish you all the best in your struggle against “The Machine”…

I may pop in from time to time just to chit chat…

Until then…. :-)

* Swoosh *

Scrumpy on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

http://youtu.be/zdIID_TGwhM

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Enabler…Collaborator…Useful idiot…

Take your pick

Gohawgs on April 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Para inglés, presione uno.

Get used to it.

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

First, last, whatever…

I’m here, ’til I’m gone.

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

.
How do we know you’re really here ?

How do you know you’re really here ?

How does anyone know what’s real, from an alternate dimension ?

Where’s Stephen Hawking, when you need him ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Every time I see Marco Rubio, I see John McCain’s a$$. Don’t wanna see no more!

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Nah nah nah nah
Nah nah nah nah
Nah nah nah nah
Hey Hey…Goodbye (Rubio)!!!

SmallGovtGuy on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

You won’t be a national party because your base will be gone.

Anyone have a good replacement party affiliation?

nobar on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill. His ties to the tea party base are so deep that reformers were constantly worried he’d abandon negotiations rather than risk an inevitable backlash by signing onto a compromise. Rubio made light of the dynamic at a press conference introducing the legislation on Thursday when he took the podium, said “Actually, I changed my mind,” and pretended to walk off.

Yeah.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Even as they were fond of the Florida’s popular governor Crist myth, the media is fond of the Rubio ties to Tea Party myth. One guy sets the meme, and it’s repeated ad nauseum.

NRO gets it right this time.

Lowry: Re: Chuck Schumer’s Triumph

Kurtz:

Rich, you make a powerful point. Schumer ran rings around Gang of Eight Republicans. Those Republicans gave away the store on every important issue. This immigration bill is a disaster.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Sorry but I’ve said this from well before the Boston Marathon bombing. Immigration reform has to be about more than gifting citizenship to the illegals. The Tsarnaev brothers put a clear edge on that point.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I just saw a couple of..
What looked to be..
Women..
Trying to kiss a Fox News reporter..
In Boston..
Not more then a week after limbs and body parts flew in the streets of Boston..

Times have changed.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Chrissy….

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

coldwarrior on April 23, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I read your comments, especially the first one on the “Family Members” HA thread and totally agree.

This insane hunt for trying to understand what caused these “innocent” Boston bombers to murder people is on my last nerve. Your statements were correct.

To understand Islam and terror, what it is and the only solution, everyone needs to read this:

http://www.therightscoop.com/walid-shoebat-exclusive-the-boston-bombers-radicalization-myth-vs-fact/

It is the best explanation that I’ve read.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill.

LOL. Rubio is a treasonous worm who has nothing to do with conservativism whatsoever. He’s a slug who needs salt poured on him.

His ties to the tea party base are so deep

More laughs. Rubio is of the Coffee Party – that gang of four leftist losers who met in a cafe and got more press than hundreds of thousands of Tea Partiers in Washington.

Rubio is toast. He was never competent and he was never an actual conservative (which many of us tried to impress on people long ago). His only saving grace was that he was running against the Orange Man. Now, Rubio’s become Orange, himself – the Orange Slug.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Saw a photo earlier today of Ryan laughing it up “with his close friend, Luis Guttierez,” the LaRaza toad (sorry, it’s the only word I can think of when I think of him).

Obviously, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio and Guttierez, as with Schumer, McCain, the rest of that lot, are compromised. They’re compromised. Untrustworthy.

Our nation can’t be left in the hands of dubious eight people in Congress.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

The piece from Stanley Kurtz is really good. He nails it.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Vetting millions should be no problem for this focused efficient government…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

We do have that Ping Machine.

It’s accurate 9.2% of the time..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

If Democrats get 10 times more credit, it’s still in Republicans’ interest,” he says. “It will free them” to compete for votes that, more often than not, were beyond their reach.

Come on…is that for real?

HB3 on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

…QOTD…10:41…boy…it’s no Friday night date night!…was the cat sick?

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 10:46 PM

TXDPS CHL status has changed…to manufacturing pending.
All that needs to be done is the printing and the sending.
Woo-hoo!!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Enabler…Collaborator…Useful idiot…

Take your pick

Gohawgs on April 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

All Of The Above..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Harsh, but I agree with that.

Same as to Ryan. I was genuinely disgusted to see that photo today of him with Luis Guttierez, described as “his close friend.” Just disgusting. I’m sorry to see Paul Ryan sell out like he has.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

Steve Schmidt is the Susan Estrich of the GOP & he’s listened to, why exactly?

Sacramento on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Enabler…Collaborator…Useful idiot…

Take your pick

Gohawgs on April 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

“Treasonous worm” works for me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Outstanding!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I may pop in from time to time just to chit chat…

Until then…. :-)

* Swoosh *

Scrumpy on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

.
So … did you, or didn’t you watch the videos of yesterday’s “Glenn Beck extravaganza”?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Vetting millions should be no problem for this focused efficient government…

d1carter on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Yeah, there’s at least five ways to spell an X because the illegal doesn’t know a lick of English.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

You *swoosh* your ass back here. BS.

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

I may pop in from time to time just to chit chat…

Until then…. :-)

* Swoosh *

Scrumpy on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

The main reason I joined this site was to be able to post and to help make sure others out there knew they were not alone in being alarmed about what’s going on. That was when Obummer became the Dem frontrunner. Don’t always agree with everything here, but I feel like I’m amongst Patriotic, common sense folks and learn much I probably wouldn’t elsewhere.

Hope you change your mind, Scrumpy.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

I heard Levin today also..
Though Levin still calls Ryan a friend..
The distance is starting to grow..

In my opinion.

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Mark despises this Immigration “Obamacare” debaucle they are cooking up. When Obamacare was passed the Dems were in control and the Republicans didn’t vote for it. They had cover then. Now, they are on the record since 2010 and their true RINO colors are coming out.

I think Mark said if Paul Ryan had any intention of running for President, that would give him pause.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

…QOTD…10:41…boy…it’s no Friday night date night!…was the cat sick?

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Spade appointment.
Again..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Come on…is that for real?

HB3 on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

It’s the rationalization of losers.

Curtiss on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Outstanding!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Today, I was having Spawn ‘rate’ my possible conceal clothing. I’m a modest dresser anyway, but sweatshirts work well.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

That the Democrats support it is enough to know its bad.

catmman on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Same as to Ryan. I was genuinely disgusted to see that photo today of him with Luis Guttierez, described as “his close friend.” Just disgusting. I’m sorry to see Paul Ryan sell out like he has.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I lost all respect for Ryan when he stupidly attended that zombie re-animation summit for BarkyCare after it was finally killed, dead. Then he and the GOP idiots helped Barky revive it while looking like total schmucks at the same time. If that wasn’t enough, Ryan tried to play patty-cakes with Barky again after that, as if he had learned absolutely nothing.

I was never a fan of his budget or some of his more infuriating votes, either.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Girdle up your loins for the grand divorce, except I don’t think it’ll be Texas leading the way. Then who? OK?

AH_C on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Enabler…Collaborator…Useful idiot…

Take your pick

Gohawgs on April 23, 2013 at 10:52 PM

“Treasonous worm” works for me.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

McCain Butt Cream Boy.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Good to see you. Fallon support operation in the Gulch.

“we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt

What do you mean ‘we’ kemo sabe?

wolfsDad on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

…QOTD…10:41…boy…it’s no Friday night date night!…was the cat sick?

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

My take also..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

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Outstanding!

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

.
Uh oh ….. this means I’ll have to treat her with more respect, in the future.

( quaking in my boots )

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

“It’s tragic that a nation of immigrants remains divided on immigration,” Rubio said at the presser.

Rubio, translated: “you f****** people.”

He’s being “charmingly” disrespectful to American citizens, citizenship, about the integrity of the USA as sovereign. Rubio is sliming the integrity of our country, AND our Constitution.

No, Rubio, we are a nation of CITIZENS.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

I read the letter she wrote. This Gutierrez guy is a bad guy!!
Levin raked Ryan over the coals somewhat. I don’t know what is wrong with Rubio & now Ryan. They are now on my DO NOT VOTE List.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I heard this part of Levin’s show. What struck me most was how completely Burlingame savaged Ryan and his terrorist loving pal. This is going to make a difference in the trajectory of the immigration debate. No longer just about giving the illegals amnesty.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

*clink*

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 10:48 PM

On a weeknight?

How do we know you’re really here ?

How do you know you’re really here ?

How does anyone know what’s real, from an alternate dimension ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

That’s easy, those of y’all who ain’t my sock puppets are figments of my imagination and will disappear when I go to bed.

Woo-hoo!!

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Uh-oh, we will only be safe-ish for a little longer…

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Cut and Paste flaw..
This is what I meant.

I think Mark said if Paul Ryan had any intention of running for President, that would give him pause.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

My take also..

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Breitbart News: Do you trust the Democrats to make a commitment to border security?

Rep. Ryan: We’re trying to negotiate. Now is not the time to question the other side’s motives.

Yeah.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Can we just start deporting instead of importing?

OmahaConservative on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Saw a photo earlier today of Ryan laughing it up “with his close friend, Luis Guttierez,” the LaRaza toad (sorry, it’s the only word I can think of when I think of him).

Obviously, Paul Ryan, Marco Rubio and Guttierez, as with Schumer, McCain, the rest of that lot, are compromised. They’re compromised. Untrustworthy.

Our nation can’t be left in the hands of dubious eight people in Congress.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Wasn’t that just gross? I thought Ryan was gonna have to spit after that lean in.
Dead to me.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Scrumpy on April 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

You will get your keister back here…you twit!
*Glares* *Twit is said luvingly.*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

McCain Butt Cream Boy.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Disgusting, but appropriately accurate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Try to be polite…

*Clinky!*

;)

Seven Percent Solution on April 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

I had to LOL on that one. When has any Rep or Senator listened to the voters? They only listen to the Lobbyists and each other.

What an insult as if anything we say makes any difference.Grrrrr!

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Yeah sweatshirts…in Texas…

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

This blog post is best read with apocalyptic neo-folk in the background.

Death In June – Death of the West

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDBSEmTXJNs

They’re making the last film
they say it’s the best
And we all helped make it
It’s called the death of the West

the kids from Fame will all be there
Free cocacola for you!
And all the monkeys from the zoo
Will they be extras too?

They’re making the last film
they say it’s the best
And we all helped make it
It’s called the death of the West

A star is rising in our northern sky
And on it we’re crucified
A chain of gold is wrapped around this world
We’re ruled by those who lie

ninjapirate on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I don’t completely understand Becks theory. I only catch part of it. Saudi bankroll?

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

On a weeknight?

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

:)

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Yeah sweatshirts…in Texas…

KCB on April 23, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I wear long-sleeves and long pants in ALL weather.
*modesty thing.*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Breitbart News: Do you trust the Democrats to make a commitment to border security?

Rep. Ryan: We’re trying to negotiate. Now is not the time to question the other side’s motives.

Yeah.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:03 PM

The other side that kneecaps Republicans and the Republic.

On ability to deal with Dems and win alone, Ryan and Rubio have shown they’re totally incompetent.

The Dems are not your friends. They are not friends of the country or the Constitution. They will stab you in the back before you’ve turn halfway around. This is not hard to grasp.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

McCain Butt Cream Boy.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Disgusting, but appropriately accurate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

It “oozes” with disdain for conservatives.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

How do we know you’re really here ?

How do you know you’re really here ?

How does anyone know what’s real, from an alternate dimension ?

Where’s Stephen Hawking, when you need him ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Epistemology isn’t exactly Hawking’s field. :)

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:07 PM

It “oozes” with disdain for conservatives.

RovesChins on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

That Depends….

Electrongod on April 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I wear long-sleeves and long pants in ALL weather.
*modesty thing.*

annoyinglittletwerp on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Practicing for when the religion of pieces takes over?

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

“we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

What a disingenuous idiot.

Curtiss on April 23, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Schmidt still trying to be relevant and looking for work it seems.
He’s also stupid. The chances are greater if they pass this Immigration evil, they won’t be a party of any type. Good grief.

These pols need to get out of the bubble once in a while.

bluefox on April 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Another thot is that when it burns, the moochers will self deport since they have no stake in the future. So in an obscene sort of way, let’s do it now so it can crash faster. When the un/under-employed see documented democrats getting jobs ahead of them due to the obamacare tax break they’ll wake up and rustle up pitchforks.

AH_C on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Last year, Cruz was losing the Hispanic vote by about 30 percent in a state where there were 4.4 million Latino voters last cycle

And yet Ted Cruz still won so I guess there are still more patriotic Americans in Texas than there are foreign invaders, as there should be. Let’s keep it that way.

FloatingRock on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

I weep for the nation

First as part of what I’m calling nobar’s collection of musical oddities (ie stuff that people don’t listen to).

nobar on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

How do we know you’re really here ?

How do you know you’re really here ?

How does anyone know what’s real, from an alternate dimension ?

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 10:53 PM

.
That’s easy, those of y’all who ain’t my sock puppets are figments of my imagination and will disappear when I go to bed.

cozmo on April 23, 2013 at 11:02 PM

.
BLAST IT ! ….. ( he figured it out )

listens2glenn on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

If you are unwilling to defend the borders of your own country……that makes you a…..what????

TRAITOR…….and a Senator from Florida apparently.

PappyD61 on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

If Republicans do nothing to repair their relationships with current and future Latino voters, “we certainly won’t be a national political party anymore,” said GOP strategist Steve Schmidt, a top adviser to John McCain in 2008.

Steve Schmidt is the Susan Estrich of the GOP & he’s listened to, why exactly?

Sacramento on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I agree with that description of Schmidt. The reason why he and others are “listened to” is that awful, even sick, cocktail/party/in-crowd thing that besets DC.

People who are generally UNpopular among humanity in general (ours) get to DC and then become part of an otherwise unpopular popular-crowd in their own, closed society, ingroup popularity culture (DC).

Career politicians. No separation between career activists staging as journalists. They attend with constant, favorable coverage of the ingroup, the ingroup responds with increased flattery and ego-stroking and money, credit, fame, etc.

We NEED term limits, we NEED increased focus OFF this sick, Progressive vanity movement.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

The Dems are not your friends. They are not friends of the country or the Constitution. They will stab you in the back before you’ve turn halfway around. This is not hard to grasp.

INC on April 23, 2013 at 11:06 PM

I would have said something much like that if reading it hadn’t sapped my strength. :) Some things are just hard to read. You have to read them twice, and blank staring is involved.

Axe on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill. His ties to the tea party base are so deep

……I think…they meant …dweeb !

KOOLAID2 on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

ALT- didn’t you get the CCW bra? If you need a fashion opinion, I’m game. ;)

wolly4321 on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Steve Schmidt is the Susan Estrich of the GOP

Sacramento on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Wow, that’s a name I haven’t seen in a while. Where is Suzie these days. Her screech is definitely missing from public debate.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:10 PM

And I knew Rand Paul was too squishy.

Amnesty and Drones, pretty important issues to cave or go “wobbly” on.

PappyD61 on April 23, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Rubio really is a one-man conservative outreach program when it comes to this bill. His ties to the tea party base are so deep that reformers were constantly worried he’d abandon negotiations rather than risk an inevitable backlash by signing onto a compromise.

The media did a real number on the TEA Party. Also, supporting candidates that seem to be part and parcel of what’s going on has pretty much killed what was once a promising, vibrant movement.

Really sad. I don’t feel we can do a damn thing to stop what these crooks, bankers, internationalists, and Communists are doing.

Immigration reform is dead. Any hopes of balancing the budget and reducing the debt is dead. Any thoughts of bringing jobs and industry back to the U.S. is dead. We need not delude ourselves any longer, but see to ourselves and be ready to support our fellow Citizen Patriots if need be.

So in short, LIB and hope that our Republic will survive somehow and become what our Forefathers envisioned.

Dr. ZhivBlago on April 23, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Sacramento on April 23, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Gingrich on that sofa smiling with Nancy.

McCain (and family) taking annual vacations with Ted Kennedy (and family).

It’s a sickness of vain performances for the voters while behind the cameras, there’s little that separates the career politicians from the rest.

Lourdes on April 23, 2013 at 11:11 PM

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