Kazakhstan: Two students held after Tsarnaev arrest may have known suspects

posted at 11:21 am on April 23, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Lost in the shuffle over the last few days has been the story of the two students re-arrested in New Bedford after the capture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev on Friday.  Originally detained in their apartment in the hunt for the Boston Marathon bombing suspect, the FBI and DHS left shortly after Tsarnaev’s capture.  They returned a few hours later, however, this time to arrest two men as a consular vehicle from a then-undisclosed nation picked up two women at the same time.

Late yesterday, the FBI and DHS announced that the two Kazakhs had been arrested for visa violations, but that update came only after thoroughly searching their apartment wearing hazmat suits:

Two foreign students arrested Saturday in New Bedford for allegedly violating their student visas are from Kazakhstan and may have known the brothers accused of bombing the Boston Marathon, according to a statement from the nation’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

FBI and Homeland Security agents wearing hazmat suits descended on the students’ neighborhood on Monday and searched their apartment, according to media reports in New Bedford.

Kazakhstan’s foreign ministry said US immigration officials discovered the students while investigating the Tsarnaev brothers’ “possible links and contacts,” particularly those who studied with them. The students – two men — are being held in Boston, according to the ministry and a US official.

“During the investigation, it was revealed that two students from Kazakhstan had violated the U.S. visa regime in the course of their studies. They were consequently arrested until the full clarification of the circumstances is achieved,” the ministry said in a statement.

ABC 6 in Rhode Island also picked up on the statement from Kazakhstan last night:

Two foreign nationals arrested Saturday on immigration violations are from Kazakhstan and may have known the Boston Marathon bombing suspects, according to a statement released Monday by the country’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

The foreign ministry said U.S. authorities came across the students while searching for “possible links and contacts” to bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev (joh-KHAR’ tsahr-NEYE’-ehv). The University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth student was charged Monday in the attack.

If you’re wondering about the hazmat suits, consider what the FBI found when searching Dzhokhar’s dorm room.  Allahpundit mentioned it last night, but it’s worth including here for a little context:

FBI agents found a “large pyrotechnic” in Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s dorm room at UMass Dartmouth Sunday, according to the federal court records made public Monday.

Tsarnaev, 19, is charged with using a weapon of mass destruction at the April 15 marathon, killing three and wounding 180, records show.

Investigators found the device along with a white hat and black jacket fitting “the same general appearance” of clothes that a man identified as Tsarnaev was seen wearing in security camera footage from the day of the bombings. Agents also found BBs in the room, the court complaint said. …

The news of the items in Tsarnaev’s dorm room added to the already tense atmosphere on campus Monday as students returned to class for the first time since Friday’s chaotic evacuation. Officials closed the school after discovering Tsarnaev was enrolled there. National media outlets have been swarming the university since.

“It wasn’t scary until I heard that,” Pine Dale resident Derek Juozaitis, of Worcester, referring to the items found in the dorm room. “He took all of our lives into jeopardy,” said Juozaitis, reached by phone Monday night.

Other students called the news “surreal,” expressing shock that Tsarnaev possibly stored explosive components only feet from where they live.

This may well be a lead that goes nowhere, but it’s still a related arrest in the case.  The media seems disinterested in this thread except for local news outlets and the Boston Globe, whose comprehensive coverage has been both understandable and admirable.  The fact that the Kazakhstan government offered that statement is rather intriguing, too.  These men were probably hanging with the wrong crowd at the wrong place and the wrong time, but we will keep an eye on this thread for any further developments.


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Wow…another coincidence.

Two in Boston.

Two in Canada.

Two in Spain.(this morning)

Two in Kaka-whatever.

You’d think this poor misunderstood friendless men were building an Ark.

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Other students called the news “surreal,” expressing shock that Tsarnaev possibly stored explosive components only feet from where they live.

I’m sure there’s a university honor code violation there somewhere, should be enough to get him kicked out of school.

BobMbx on April 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM

If you’re wondering about the hazmat suits,

They probably were operating a meth lab.

portlandon on April 23, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Observation of MSM and feds: Too conclusive, too fast.

Our immigration system is full of holes – data probably isn’t updated on a timely basis. If the Russians give us a warning, they know something – it’s not in their interest to help us so, who? what? when? where? why? how?

Read journalists used to ask these questions. Hmmmmmm

MN J on April 23, 2013 at 11:26 AM

These are not the student visa abusers we’re looking for…move along…..

BobMbx on April 23, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I think it is past time that we reconsider our issuance of student visas to foreigners. Especially those “students” from regions in the world where hatred of the west is the norm.

Ditkaca on April 23, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Connect the dots… Read Dzhokhar’s tweets

luckybogey on April 23, 2013 at 11:30 AM

COEXIST!!!!

The bumper stickers proclaim………except one of those religions is committed today to destroying by the sword all who oppose it.

So all of these arrests have one thing in common?????………ISLAM??

PappyD61 on April 23, 2013 at 11:32 AM

So, were all the explosives stored in his dorm room at one time? I suspect the majority were stored in the Boston apt.

Blake on April 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

That link from the Jester site is verrrry interesting. I suppose the powers that be could be playing dumb and saying we think they acted alone so other conspirators aren’t put on notice.

mikeyboss on April 23, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Chris Matthews: “What Difference Does It Make Why They Did It?”

Drained Brain on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

If you’re wondering about the hazmat suits

For visa violations? What’s curious about that?

Seriously, the timing of these “students” involvement with the FBI can’t be coincidental. It seems clear that the FBI was probably monitoring these people in the off chance that they got a call or text message from Dzhokhar.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Drained Brain on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Out: Motive, opportunity, means.

In: Motive, opportunity, means.

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM

These brothers received so many freebies because they were immigrants. Neither of them were brainiacs yet they received scholarships. What a waste of money. The kid at UMass was flunking out and had been from the very beginning.

Blake on April 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Mohammedanism is a militant and proselytizing faith.

Winston Churchill, 1899

kingsjester on April 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Chris Matthews: “What Difference Does It Make Why They Did It?”

Drained Brain on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

So sayeth the dolt who ascribed blame for the “bomb” at the JFK Library to Tea Party members looking to destroy the image of the modern Democrat party.

I just can’t believe the hypocrisy. Matthews isn’t curious about a motive when Islamic terrorists are involved but he is willing to actually place blame when he thinks somebody bombed a shrine to the mythology of JFK? Give me a break!

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I’m thinking more on the line of evidence collection teams wearing “clean suits” so they do not contaiminate any evidence recovered and not so much “hazmat suits”, FWIW.

D-fusit on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Neither of them were brainiacs yet they received scholarships. What a waste of money. The kid at UMass was flunking out and had been from the very beginning.

Blake on April 23, 2013 at 11:39 AM

And yet, we’re expected to believe that they were able to create sophisticated IEDs from the internet as lone wolves?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Two foreign nationals arrested Saturday on immigration violations

But, I thought the Dems keep saying it’s impossible to do that?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on April 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

National media outlets have been swarming the university since.

“It wasn’t scary until I heard that,”

lol. That would freak me out too.

DaveO on April 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM

I’m thinking more on the line of evidence collection teams wearing “clean suits” so they do not contaiminate any evidence recovered and not so much “hazmat suits”, FWIW.

D-fusit on April 23, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Either way it begs the question. What evidence did they think they might find in that apartment?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:44 AM

This has nothing to do with Terrorism….move along.

It’s all about the Rap!

Georgetown Professor: Tamerlan Tsarnaev Motivated as Much By Rap as Jihad

Rovin on April 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Two foreign nationals arrested Saturday on immigration violations

But, I thought the Dems keep saying it’s impossible to do that?

Difficultas_Est_Imperium on April 23, 2013 at 11:43 AM

And why is the rat-eared coward’s aunt, an illegal living in Boston, still in the country?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM

And why is the rat-eared coward’s aunt, an illegal living in Boston, still in the country?

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Don’t forget the drunk driving uncle too.

D-fusit on April 23, 2013 at 11:49 AM

FBI agents found a “large pyrotechnic” in Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev’s dorm room at UMass Dartmouth Sunday

,
I’m sure the Univ sent out an email warning all student of the device also known as a b-mb, so that they could remain indoors and assume the safest position possible. Grabbing of ankles comes to mind. I’m sure ICE will be all over the visa violations just as soon as they secure the Southern border.

Kissmygrits on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 AM

It’s all about the Rap!

Georgetown Professor: Tamerlan Tsarnaev Motivated as Much By Rap as Jihad

Rovin on April 23, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Uh-oh – he better watch out – that is raaaaaaacist!

djl130 on April 23, 2013 at 11:51 AM

[Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 11:37 AM]

Good point.

Dusty on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Anyone else wondering just how many visa violators there are in the Universities and Colleges in the Boston area alone? Then ask what about the rest of the country. Nah, just pass amnesty to all of them and look no more problems.

D-fusit on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

They acted alone, absolutely alone. The suspect said so and his word is as good as gold.

RedRedRice on April 23, 2013 at 11:56 AM

D-fusit on April 23, 2013 at 11:53 AM

My Google search on that came up with zero, so it must be true (see my application for MSM reporter)

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM

It has gone from from this:
“Dude, no way. He was just a nice All American quiet guy who smoked some weed, tweeted some tweets, played some sports and went to classes.”

To this:
“It wasn’t scary until I heard that,” Pine Dale resident Derek Juozaitis, of Worcester, referring to the items found in the dorm room. “He took all of our lives into jeopardy,” said Juozaitis, reached by phone Monday night. Other students called the news “surreal,” expressing shock that Tsarnaev possibly stored explosive components only feet from where they live.

I remember when cranial-rectal inversion wasn’t a special status for college admission.

Jomama on April 23, 2013 at 11:59 AM

More lone wolves?

I sure hope this doesn’t stop the politicians’ headlong rush to legalize 11 million (20? 30? how do they know how many if they are undocumented and unknown?) illegal aliens!

We need the serfs.

Or our lettuce will cost $5 a head.

(Maybe we could replace our Congress peoples’ heads with lettuce… it might work out better for the nation’s future.)

profitsbeard on April 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM

I think it is past time that we reconsider our issuance of student visas to foreigners. Especially those “students” from regions in the world where hatred of the west is the norm.

Heck no, we need more of ‘em, so the ones we have here already don’t feel so lonely and isolated. They need to be able to associate with people of a culture and ideology with whom they can feel comfortable and at ease.

hawkeye54 on April 23, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Can we say profile yet? Better yet, can we just do it?

fourdeucer on April 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM

How about a hard look at their friends that they exchanges tweets with discussing experiments with explosives?

slickwillie2001 on April 23, 2013 at 12:06 PM

(Maybe we could replace our Congress peoples’ heads with lettuce… it might work out better for the nation’s future.)

Not too many citizens would notice a difference, as there is little difference in the contents of a head of lettuce and contents of a head of a member of CONgress. And the lettuce would be less inclined to promote onerous legislation and waste our tax dollars.

hawkeye54 on April 23, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Maybe its time to BAN FOREIGN STUDENTS!

GarandFan on April 23, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Chris Matthews, spit drooling off his chin: “What Difference Does It Make Why They Did It?”

Drained Brain on April 23, 2013 at 11:35 AM

FIFY

socalcon on April 23, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Not too many citizens would notice a difference, as there is little difference in the contents of a head of lettuce and contents of a head of a member of CONgress. And the lettuce would be less inclined to promote onerous legislation and waste our tax dollars.

A head of lettuce is roughly 94.4% water. It might be a better choice. Vote Romaine!

Jomama on April 23, 2013 at 12:13 PM

My Google search on that came up with zero, so it must be true (see my application for MSM reporter)

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 11:58 AM

You failed quicker than that news anchor in North Dakota that was fired in the first five seconds of his career for cursing.

If you want to be an MSM reporter, you can’t be messing around with the “G” word. Inconvenient facts sometime appear when you do that.

Happy Nomad on April 23, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Maybe its time to BAN FOREIGN STUDENTS!

Ditto that. Too many of our universities prefer foreign students over our own because of the extra $$$ involved. Foreign students are quite profitable.

hawkeye54 on April 23, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Wow…another coincidence.

Two in Boston.

Two in Canada.

Two in Spain.(this morning)

Two in Kaka-whatever.

You’d think this poor misunderstood friendless men were building an Ark.

Limerick on April 23, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Of friendship and bonding beyond borders as in ‘sans fronotiers’ :) well, maybe Amanda Palmer wrtites a poem about the symbolism of this all :)

jimver on April 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM

In Kazakhstan, three main issues: economic, social, and Jew.

Talon on April 23, 2013 at 3:07 PM

“During the investigation, it was revealed that two students from Kazakhstan had violated the U.S. visa regime in the course of their studies.

They should have changed their names to Hernandez and Gonzalez. That way there would be no “visa regime violation” issue.

crosspatch on April 23, 2013 at 3:25 PM