Pro-reform GOP Senate aide: Don’t blame our immigration system for the Tsarnaevs, blame “our society”

posted at 4:01 pm on April 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Michael Goldfarb, a complement to Erick Erickson’s post today at Red State about Republican aides turning desperate, shrill, and repulsive as the Gang of Eight bill runs into stumbling blocks. Quote:

MORNING MINDMELD, from GOP Senate aide whose boss favors immigration reform: “The … analysis that the Boston attacks are a setback for immigration reform appears wrongheaded, as we learn more about the story. The fault here wasn’t our immigration system, since the suspects immigrated legally a decade ago as kids and apparently were radicalized here. If anything, the fault lies with our society and domestic intelligence services. Given the facts, the events in Boston seem unlikely to stoke nativist sentiments that may derail immigration reform. To the contrary, to the extent it renews fears of terrorism, it will strengthen the case for reform, since the bipartisan proposal fixes major gaps in our national security posture (by implementing a visa-exit system, registering and background-checking undocumented immigrants, gaining 100% awareness of our southern border, etc.).”

I want to know how a “society” that granted the family asylum and then gave Dzhokhar money to go to school is culpable in the bombing. Dzhokhar, at least, seemed well assimilated given the number of classmates who’ve been babbling to the media about how nice and normal and chill he was. Maybe the problem has more to do with him being a sociopath than with “society”?

Nice job, though, by the GOP aide in throwing the word “nativist” in there even though most amnesty opponents on the right support legal immigration. How does a left-wing buzzword like that end up in a Republican aide’s statement? Very easily, actually: Turns out it’s not the first time conservative staffers have resorted to liberal smears lately in defense of the bill. Conn Carroll:

Yesterday, Sen. Marco Rubio, R-Fla., spokesman Alex Conant caused a bit of a stir when he argued against granting permanent legal residence to illegal immigrants by claiming, “We haven’t had a cohort of people living permanently in US without full rights of citizenship since slavery.”

Not only is Rubio’s permanent-residents-are-slaves argument a leftist talking point, but it is also dead wrong.

For starters, Rubio’s bill doesn’t even solve the problem. Only 40 percent of the illegal immigrants who received permanent legal resident status through the 1986 amnesty went on to obtain citizenship. That means, by Rubio’s leftist logic, 60 percent of those who took advantage of the 86 amnesty are still suffering as slaves in the United States today. And Rubio has repeatedly bragged that his path to citizenship will be tougher than the 1986 path. That means even fewer currently illegal immigrants will go on to become citizens under Rubio’s plan. How dare Rubio propose a plan that creates millions of new legal-resident slaves!

More importantly, there just is no comparison between slaves, who were brought and kept here against their will, with immigrants who came here and stay here by choice.

Read his post for examples of leftists using the “slavery” analogy to browbeat amnesty opponents. There’s nothing new about this sort of demagoguery on the GOP side. Lindsey Graham famously reassured his audience in a speech to the National Council of La Raza in 2007 that pro-amnesty forces in the Senate were going to tell “the bigots” to shut up, by which he meant “those opposed to Ted Kennedy’s immigration plan.” McCain once compared opponents of tax breaks for amnestied illegals to supporters of Jim Crow laws on the Senate floor. These are the people who are masterminding the Gang of Eight bill today; go figure that Rubio and his staff would fall into the same habits. And the punchline is, the “slavery” argument being used by Republicans against the right here will be used by the left against Republicans to speed up the path to citizenship if/when this bill finally passes. I’ve seen a dozen news stories over the past week emphasizing that the process in its proposed form will take 15-20 years for the average illegal, but by Team Rubio’s own logic, that’s 15-20 of quasi-slavery. When Schumer et al. turn around three years from now and demand an expedited process in the name of not replicating some immigration version of Jim Crow, what will be the reply?

Says Erickson:

I want an immigration reform plan that will solve the problems we now have with unskilled workers who come here illegally. I am not sure that the proposed plan will do that. What I do know is that conservatives should be deeply skeptical of Republicans who call upstanding conservatives racists and baby killers while allying themselves with the race baiters and baby killers of the left on this issue.

The damage Lindsey Graham, John McCain, and Bush staffers did in 2005-2006 has not been undone. They called many Republicans bigots and racists who were not, but who stood in the way of their comprehensive approach to immigration. That created a great deal of distrust and animosity on this issue. Instead of trying to understand the legitimate concerns of those who opposed their plan, they tarred and feathered them all.

Free advice to Rubio and the Gang of Eight: The quickest way to light a fire under the asses of amnesty opponents, who’ve done little more than mutter under their breaths so far (like me), is to keep up this sort of demagoguery. Rubio’s done a nifty job defanging the opposition with his charm offensive on talk radio. Once the charm disappears, all that’s left is a guy defending a bill that’s not much better on the merits than the McCain/Kennedy immigration bills of five years ago. Seriously, read Byron York on how feeble the bill’s border enforcement provisions are. If DHS can’t secure the border in five years, the “border commission” will issue a report recommending next steps and … that’s it. That’s the end of enforcement requirements. No wonder Democrats can’t help chirping excitedly to reporters about all the concessions they received in the bill. Obama, whom people like Ted Cruz have accused of wanting to sabotage the bill, is actually going to have OFA campaign on its behalf. Not only are we getting demagogued, we’re being steamrolled on top of it.

Update: Presented without comment, Peter Kirsanow’s take on the bill:

On Friday I was one of only two witnesses (the other being Douglas Holtz-Eakin) to testify before the Senate Judiciary Committee on the comprehensive immigration-reform bill. My comments here are not about the substance of my testimony, but about process.

The proposed measure is poised to profoundly reorder our society, both economically and sociologically, and the Gang of Eight drops a bewilderingly complex 844-page bill with innumerable moving parts — a bill drafted behind closed doors on the rest of the Senate only 48 hours before the hearing. There was hardly time to absorb more than the title and preamble before the hearing, at a time when most of the nation and Congress were rightly occupied with the hunt for the surviving Boston Marathon bomber (indeed, the only other witness scheduled to testify was DHS secretary Janet Napolitano, who had to cancel due to the developments involving the imminent capture of the suspect)…

Not to put too fine a point on it, but this process is an abomination. I’ve testified numerous times before the judiciary committee, including the confirmation hearings of the last four nominees to the Supreme Court. Never has the committee treated a matter of such magnitude so cavalierly. One member of the World’s Greatest Deliberative Body used his limited time on Friday to ask me just one urgent question — about my Wikipedia page.

Update: Almost forgot: How many Senate votes is our ostensibly anti-pork GOP prepared to buy by sticking political favors into the bill? Turns out there’s already stuff in there for Rubio (help for Florida’s cruise-ship industry) and Democratic “Gang” member Michael Bennet.

Update: Rubio spokesman Alex Conant e-mails:

I regret evoking slavery in the context of the current debate because obviously there’s no comparison between the plight of slaves and today’s illegal immigrants. The point I was trying to make (in 140 characters) is that allowing immigrants to apply for permanent residence, but not eventually be able to apply for the full benefits of citizenship, has been tried and failed, and has had disastrous social consequences in Europe today.


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Wow, a photo of 5 Senators, with Shumer in the middle….

A puddle of Puss in a pool of Diarrhea…

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 4:59 PM

The proposed measure is poised to profoundly reorder our society, both economically and sociologically, and the Gang of Eight drops a bewilderingly complex 844-page bill with innumerable moving parts…Not to put too fine a point on it, but this process is an abomination.

Marco Rubio…The Cuban Obama

Not to worry though…I’m sure Jeb will fix it when he’s installed.

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Be right back. Gotta go stoke my nativist sentiments.

Curtiss on April 22, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Dude! Way TMI! That is just …… oh… “stoke” not “stroke“…..

GWB on April 22, 2013 at 5:01 PM

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM

I’d have thought ‘coronation’ might have been a better descriptor for the Jeb ‘installation’, since he is the third member of the Bush Dynasty. :)

Just for the record…I wouldn’t elect another Bush to any office.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

any senator who votes for this garbage should be primaried. this is as bad as obamacare. hey gop want to know the fastest way out the door? act like a democrat.

nice knowing you rubio you LIAR

WisCon on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

It seems to me Rubio is one of three things:

1) He’s an idiot and actually thinks that he can make poor, unskilled, Spanish-speaking third-world people into small-government, Republican-voting Constitutional originalists

2) He knows the bill’s a turkey and wants it to fail so he’s inoculated from criticism as a self-hating Hispanic from the left and their allies on the path to the presidency

3) He’s a fraud

crrr6 on April 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I’ll take #3 for 500 Alex

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Did not take all that long for Rubio to go from ‘Rising Conservative Star’ to RINO. Some sort of record perhaps? Good job!

Ukiah on April 22, 2013 at 4:52 PM

IMO, he’s gone to far worse than simply a ‘RINO’. He’s demonstrated himself to be a cravenly political prevaricating conniving dangerous demagogue.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Next thing you know Rubio will be telling us that only flat-Earther neanderthals deny global warming and then his transformation will be complete.

FloatingRock on April 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

I regret evoking slavery in the context of the current debate because obviously there’s no comparison between the plight of slaves and today’s illegal immigrants. The point I was trying to make (in 140 characters) is that allowing immigrants to apply for permanent residence, but not eventually be able to apply for the full benefits of citizenship, has been tried and failed, and has had disastrous social consequences in Europe today.

Beyond idiotic and he and they can all go to Hades.

libnotfree, so we fight together?

Maybe there is a chance to defeat this beast. I want to know what you’re going to do against it and how many on your side will hafe the guts to stand up to Obama. Not betting on the latter.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 5:05 PM

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:00 PM

I’d have thought ‘coronation’ might have been a better descriptor for the Jeb ‘installation’, since he is the third member of the Bush Dynasty. :)

Just for the record…I wouldn’t elect another Bush to any office.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

W said in an interview for Parade Magazine that he thinks Jeb should run cause it would be good for the country or something.

We are in the Aristocratic Hell our founders did everything to preserve us from.

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

WisCon on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

It’s worse than Obamacare. It can’t be undone once its done. It will COMPOUND the millions it is intended to add to Obamacare and out other benefit and entitlement programs through CHAIN IMMIGRATION ( family unification visas and the provisions in the bill to hand a green card to any relative of a US citizen, even if they’ve been previously deported…and to hand a green card to any illegal alien AG worker who’s been here for five years and will ‘promise’ to continue to work in the AG field for a certain length of time.) All of these individuals and families will be getting Obamacare and many of the 83 federal means tested welfare programs as well as becoming eligible for Social Security and Medicare.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Where’s Beck’s bombshell?

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

…the only people with the funds to mass mail bumper stickers and letters requesting donations are already plugged into the mutha cow called national party leadership…

bumper sticker and request for my money just arrived from Sen. FL-Amnesty Rubio.

“Rubio Victory” “to help fund my campaign”

barf on this latest Bush endorsed Neoconservative [Potus] Candidate

McCain, Obamalite Romney, Rubio (Jeb’s sidekick)

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Giving asylum is almost worse than giving illegals amnesty. Trying to get rid of an asylum case is almost as hard as Lindsey Lohan kicking her drinking and come coke habit. You literally have to go on a criminal rampage to even be considered for doportation.
We KNEW who these guys were, they came in legally, and look what they’ve done.
Imagine what will happen when all the roaches begin to scurry out of the shadows and we DON’T know who they are and what they’ve done.
I think McCain, Graham, Flame Flake. and Rubio should be publicly shamed. They should know better.

RovesChins on April 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

There was an article today regarding the fact that the Saudi awaiting deportation tomorrow was already on the Terror Watch list.

I don’t know if that has anything to do with the Beck announcement… but I found it interesting that he was being allowed to remain in this nation despite being on that list.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM

The intent of any immigration law is suppose to be about what’s best for the USA not what’s best for illegal immigrants. But unfortunately these congressmen don’t work for us, as they would claim, they work for the big campaign donor$ and the minority block votes – that’s what they believe gets them re-elected and explains why they try to get unpopular laws passed. Got to get rid of them.

Chessplayer on April 22, 2013 at 5:09 PM

I don’t know the goals of the GOP “Gang” members but the Leftist’s goals are to fundamentally transform America via demographics. Don’t like the voters, bring in new ones.

The Left is determined to impose socialism on us and is willing to destroy the identity of the country in order to do so. Why else fight so hard against common sense (their favorite term) security measures? Why refuse to close the border? Why fight so hard to flood the zone with millions of poorly educated manual laborers? Why the high priority for family reunification over actual skills?

Immigration policy should benefit the US and the immigrant, not the immigrant and the Democrat party. The Gang’s bill will do the latter only.

The Democrats don’t give a damn what We the People want and won’t even bother to ask.

Charlemagne on April 22, 2013 at 5:10 PM

“Secret emails obtained exclusively by Breitbart News show the libertarian Cato Institute, Americans for Tax Reform, and Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL) are colluding on immigration reform messaging in the wake of the Boston Marathon terror attack in order to push the “Gang of Eight” bill that was released this past week…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/EXCLUSIVE-Secret-emails-Cato-Norquist-Rubio-collude-to-counter-Boston-terror-attacks-effects-on-immigration-bill-Boston-thing-could-derail-this-big-time

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:11 PM

If you consider the 24/7 demagoguery of the blame white America for all the evils of the world then yes society is to blame. This is what happens when you’re civil to scumbags.

jdkchem on April 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Das Kapital really wants this immigration bill…

libfreeordie on April 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Edited for clarity.

Marxist to its core.

Though a Leninist or Trotskyite would probably think open borders would help undermine the already doomed capitalist system, helping it to destroy itself more rapidly.

Not all Marxist socialists see things the same way. Stalin disagreed with Trotsy so much he assassinated him.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Where’s Beck’s bombshell?

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I was wondering that myself…

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Seriously, this amnesty will be the bridge too far. There will be no recovery from it, no un-doing it. Our system is probably already screwed beyond repair; with this layered on top, there’s no hope of recovery – it will crash.

Probably by design, of course.

The damn thing is smoldering already – this will simply apply a great quantity of gasoline to it. And those f*ckwits are doing it, knowing this will be the result, and planning on being there to reshape everything in their image.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:13 PM

Listening to this hearing I’m wondering why these idiot senators don’t realize how lame they sound. Schumer talks like a border hawk when referencing what his bill will do. Why doesn’t he just propose these things in order to fulfill his oath to protect the country without the amnesty?

DanMan on April 22, 2013 at 5:13 PM

It seems to me Rubio is one of three things:

1) He’s an idiot and actually thinks that he can make poor, unskilled, Spanish-speaking third-world people into small-government, Republican-voting Constitutional originalists

2) He knows the bill’s a turkey and wants it to fail so he’s inoculated from criticism as a self-hating Hispanic from the left and their allies on the path to the presidency

3) He’s a fraud

crrr6 on April 22, 2013 at 4:24 PM

4) The corrupting power of Washington D.C. is so pervasive that no one of either party is immune.

Corruption of the political soul that once took years now takes weeks.

MichaelGabriel on April 22, 2013 at 5:13 PM

And the punchline is, the “slavery” argument being used by Republicans against the right

The irony being that the many of the cronies that wrote the amnesty bill are the same cronies that have prevented the government from enforcing our immigration laws all of these years so they can exploit illegal immigration. They’re also the same cronies that will make sure that immigration law isn’t enforced in the future, whether amnesty passes or not, to ensure that there is a constant flow of ever more illegal aliens for them to exploit. If illegal aliens are like slaves it’s the government and their cronies who are the ones exploiting them.

FloatingRock on April 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Rubio’s amnesty bill “requires” that newly designated US citizens, formerly illegal aliens, “must” speak English.

Or else? NADA!

Plus, AMAZINGLY, any person previously denied US citizenship or deported for illegally entering the USA gets to BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. Snap of the fingers: magic beans. Any relative of any person who has ever entered the USA can claim to be an American Citizen according to Rubio’s NEOconservative compassionate wholesale citizenship-for-all comprehensive immigration reform legislation. No joke.

Last week’s end, Ted Cruz w/ Mark Levin stipulated three simple points to make vs. Rubio Bill.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Oh, hell, whatever. Let The War Begin.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:17 PM

So…Gays want marriage cause it’s a civil right…and illegals demand amnesty/citizenship so they won’t be slaves.

*facepalm*

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Rubio and his staff won’t retreat. Schumer must be thinking to himself “That Dezi Arnez is a real moron.”

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 5:19 PM

If the Tsarnaevs hadn’t been here in the first place, they couldn’t have bombed the Boston Marathon.

Seriously, some days I have to wonder how long its going to be until some ridiculous bit of political inanity finally causes my head to explode. /sarc
Do these people actually BELIEVE that we’re all morons? They GAVE these people political asylum, and then blame “our society” for their own lack of judgment. They gave one of them citizenship and the other legal status even after they’d come to the attention of the FBI, after RUSSIA, for pete’s sake, clued us in that there was a problem.

HOW DO THEY DARE? What goes through the minds of these idiots to think for even half a millisecond that they’re not INSULTING us?

We are NOT obliged to take in every would-be immigrant who takes the notion they might want to live here. Enough is enough. We, law-abiding American citizens shouldn’t have to put up with the political class IGNORING our laws and IGNORING common sense. NEWS FLASH TO MARCO RUBIO: OUR IMMIGRATION SYSTEM IS NOT “BROKEN”. OUR ENFORCEMENT OF IT IS.

We are tired of being the CHUMPS of the planet. How many dead citizens do we have to see on the six o’clock news before Washington, DC gets a clue? There are people out there, who come here with their own insane agendas, bent on killing us. And instead of scrutinizing would-be immigrants, we wave a magic legislative bill and presto!… legalize 10-20 million. Instead of decreasing legal immigration, while we’re burdened with high unemployment and a sluggish economy, while our treasury is empty and we’re piling on a trillion and a half in debt every year… they want to increase it by 50% instead. That’s CRAZY.

Murf76 on April 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM

And the evidence just keeps on piling up that the government’s whole plan is do nothing and let immigrants colonize the country. They’ll all vote for gov free goodies and now we have a new commie government voted in.

I’m done with the national GOP. They’re all liars.

oryguncon on April 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Where’s Beck’s bombshell?

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:06 PM
I was wondering that myself…

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 5:12 PM

It’s locked in Al Capone’s vault.

katy the mean old lady on April 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM

the cronies that wrote the amnesty bill are the same cronies that have prevented the government from enforcing our immigration laws all of these years so they can exploit

profits through corruption.

fify

You are absolutely correct, F.R.

As if to BEGAT more & newer COMPREHENSIVE reform legislation will result in more efficient law enforcement…

/see DHS/Patriot Act and go figure/

It only makes the corruption of governance that much worse.

Too Big To Fail is by nature another in the series of massive eruptions destroying all concerned with, of course, the exception of the insulated 1% elitists whose hands NEVER get dirty, who always have fresh meat ready to abuse, meaning new masses of populations to exploit.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Immigration policy should benefit the US and the immigrant, not the immigrant and the Democrat party. The Gang’s bill will do the latter only.

Why does it have to benefit the immigrant? Most immigrants from the 1900s came to this country, learned English and joined the armed forces. They really wanted to be Americans and were willing to fight and die for this country.

This bunch of “immigrants” only want to live here, get paid, never assimilate and some of them want to kill us.

monalisa on April 22, 2013 at 5:24 PM

The stupidest part of this whole debacle is that Republicans can’t seem to figure out what the problem is and why they keep losing elections. No matter how many times we tell them, no matter how many ways we phrase it… they REFUSE to catch on.

IT’S ABOUT TRUST. IT’S ABOUT CORE PRINCIPLES. And when they engage in idiotic strategies like this, they prove themselves unprincipled and untrustworthy. It’s doubling-down on stupid.

Murf76 on April 22, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Just for the record…I wouldn’t elect another Bush to any office.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Why?

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I will be very surprised if Rubio doesn’t run for President some day … as a Democrat.

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

It’s locked in Al Capone’s vault.

katy the mean old lady on April 22, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Spit my beer. You are mean! ;)

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

so they won’t be slaves.

ace of spades hq, as if at present they haven’t the liberty to leave at will.

When Mexico and whatever other nations alter their immigration laws to benefit the migrants from south of THEIR border, and to secure financial industrial investments and the purchase of private property in Mexico by non-Mexican citizens, THEN a dialogue can begin.

Dialogues are not monologues, after all. Except in revisionism, aka New-Speak.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:28 PM

On Beck:

“We are not sure who actually tagged him as a ’212 3B,’ but we know it is very difficult to charge someone with this — it has to be almost certain,” Beck explained. “It is the equivalent in civil society of charging someone with premeditated murder and seeking the death penalty — it is not thrown around lightly.”

Beck continued, noting that after Secretary of State John Kerry met with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud on Tuesday, the FBI began backtracking on the Saudi national from suspect, to person of interest, to witness, to victim, to nobody.

Then, on Wednesday, President Obama had a “chance” encounter with Saudi Foreign Minister Saud and Saudi Ambassador Adel al-Jubeir.

“Wednesday at 5:35 p.m. the file is altered,” Beck said. “This is unheard of, this is impossible in the timeline due to the severity of the charge….You don’t one day put a 212 3B charge against somebody with deportation, and then the next day take it off. It would require too much to do it.”

“There are only two people that could revoke the deportation order — the director of the NTC could do it after speaking with each department, the FBI, the ATC, etc. — which is impossible to do in such a short period of time, — or, somebody at the very highest levels of the State Department could do it. We don’t have any evidence to tell you which one did it,” Beck said.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/22/beck-breaks-exclusive-information-on-saudi-national-allegedly-connected-to-boston-bombings/

Not actually in any vault.

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Just for the record…I wouldn’t elect another Bush to any office.

thatsafactjack on April 22, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Why?

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Bush I gave us Clinton. Bush II gave us Obama. You ask why?

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Aaaaaannnnnd Rubio is toast.

BKeyser on April 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Capital really wants this immigration bill. And why wouldn’t they. Pushing wages down further is what Wall Street wants, its been the basis of corporate gains in the past decade. Creating a legalized caste of low wage, non-unionized workers? I believe capitalism calls that Yahtzee! So now the right may finally wise up that the GOP is out to do one thing, line the pockets of the corporate interests who donate to their campaigns (yes, Democrats have no other interests either). Can we finally start talking about the way Capital is doing everything possible to sacrifice the American standard of living in order to enrich themselves? You don’t have to be a Marxist to see it, the evidence is plain as day. Tax cuts that benefit, the wealthy. Labor policies that benefit employers. Open borders that benefit profit margins. Name one thing any Republican or Democratic president has done since Reagan was elected that inspired corporations to increase wages. Name one supply side policy that increased wages rather than products? You can’t do it. The only thing that has increased wages since Reagan’s election are a series of boom and bust speculative markets. This is late capitalism people, and you made it all your own. Now with immigration reform you’re starting to get it.

libfreeordie on April 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM

So the current crony capitalism of the Obama administration is as disgusting to you as it is to me?

Bush I gave us Clinton. Bush II gave us Obama. You ask why?

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Are you telling me Jack wouldn’t vote for any Bush in any election because after that particular Bush leaves office a liberal comes into office?

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 5:34 PM

How many of the teenagers and young adults who spent their whole lives here have been radicalized?

chemman on April 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Ask yourself this: How many women did you see in traditional Muslim garb prior to 9/11 versus today?

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Aaaaaannnnnd Rubio is toast.

BKeyser on April 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

I waved good-bye, myself, the first day he approached the mic wearing his new gang colors. :) He could have reversed, but he seems to be doubling-down.

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Ropes.

sablegsd on April 22, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Aaaaaannnnnd Rubio is toast.

BKeyser on April 22, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Only if elections matter.

They don’t.

And only if he can’t get 20 million new voters on the rolls in time for him to run for President.

He will.

That’s the plan, anyway. This happens, and there’s not a damn thing you care about that will ever happen again via the ballot box. The value of your vote has been largely destroyed already. This will finish it off permanently.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:39 PM

if Rubio doesn’t run for President some day … as a Democrat.

no need to change parties given the Shared Values amongst political Washingtonians

Rubio already has the Bush endorsement, and has already converted from whatever “conservative” newcomer into the neoconservative bigger and more centralized governance is bestest mantra of the Republican National Party and Republican National Leadership in the House and Senate. Two years ago, Rubio said all of the conservative convictions which with such facility he mutated (the moment he won his national election) into the Bush open borders and amnesty economic policy to enable business with the cheapest labor.

incumbents are quick to usurp everything for themselves…it happened when GWB initially won his first Potus term with his Republican Majority in both House and Senate. And the best “tax cuts” he asked for were temporary, and a “rebate” which required immediate repayment from recipients. All the while, Bush managed to spend far too much and grow government more than any other, with worse abuses of authoritarian power than FDR’s first 100 days ever set into motion. For all of FDR’s Ivy League economic foolishness, he never issued an Executive Order granting the Treasury Secretary complete autonomy as GW did. And Americans wonder why Obama spends without a budget? “Because I Could” given such precedence, with Republicans salivating to get their “turn” back monopolizing the trough of tax funds.

Republican Leadership quote by Dan Quayle: “We’ll usurp the Tea Party”

Campaign promises and lip service don’t amount to diddly squat.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Nice to see the folks at Hot Air taking stuff out of context in an attempt to smear people. I mean really…If you guys are going to use the same tactics as the Democrats and exploit a terrorist attack to advance your political goals,maybe you could find some family members of the victims to use as props..Why not? If you are going to blame a piece of legislation that is not even a law for a terrorist attack carried out by people who entered the country legally then why not go whole hog?

Jennifer Rubin had an interesting piece in which she actually quoted Rubio, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan who talked about making the immigration system safer…rather than just maintaining the status quo…which is what some people seem to want to do.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) issued a statement:

I disagree with those who say that the terrorist attack in Boston has no bearing on the immigration debate. Any immigration reform we pursue should make our country safer and more secure. If there are flaws in our immigration system that were exposed by the attack in Boston, any immigration reform passed by Congress this year should address those flaws. Congress needs time to conduct more hearings and investigate how our immigration and national security systems could be improved going forward.

The attack reinforces why immigration reform should be a lengthy, open and transparent process, so that we can ask and answer important questions surrounding every facet of the bill. But we still have a broken system that needs to be fixed.

Rubio got some unexpected help today from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who generally supports immigration reform but would “require annual votes of Congress to establish that the border is truly secure.” (Consider, however, what happens under that arrangement if liberal Democrats were to control both the House and Senate.) Today Paul sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), urging, “There should be hearings in the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee that study the national security aspects of this situation, making sure that our current immigration system gives individuals from high-risk areas of the world heightened scrutiny.”

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If rule of law is nativist, then I’m a nativist.

If I have to support laws crafted secretly behind closed doors with the aide of moneyed interests, passage manufactured with backroom deals and pork bought votes, forwarded with hate filled rhetoric and stifling of legitimate debate, and a rush to voting before the public has had the opportunity to know what their representatives are doing in their name, in order for me to avoid being slandered by a bunch of tin pot dictators, then give me slander.

I’ll remind that most of these poor excuses for statesmen have had long careers in government and they are much responsible for the state of the economy, the level of unemployment, the degree of trust in the public treasury, the burdens of debt they have piled upon us, and the frittering away of tax dollars in connection with schemes, machinations and corruptions they euphemistically call “investments” and they haughtily call “entitlements”. And to what end? Nothing is “fixed” and everything is worse.

This Gang of Eight is nothing more that a temporary collection not of law makers, but law givers, grown old in their absolutisms, comfortable in their disdain for their fellow citizens, and professional in the art of lying, more fit to hold office in a despotism than they are anything nearer a democratic form of society. They will reform nothing, and pervert everything they touch.

Dusty on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

If you are going to blame a piece of legislation that is not even a law for a terrorist attack carried out by people who entered the country legally then why not go whole hog?

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Would you mind terribly pointing to ONE post where someone blamed the Boston bombing on the immigration bill that hasn’t passed yet?

Thanks in advance.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Ted Cruz can wipe the floor with pretty boy Rubio. Not that he’s looking for a fight; rather, to bring Rubio back to the authentic.

So long as Cruz, Lee and Paul are able to gain influence, and band together newly elected politicians from constituents demanding constitutional governance, there’s something to work alongside.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Terrye @ 5:42 pm

Rather, no matter how much MORE bureaucracy is added atop the already top heavy federal administration of government, things can not get “better” for those American citizens who want constitutional governance.

And the same criticism against the false hope that “More Is Better” blasts as useless more legislation as if more laws will cure the lack of law enforcement. “If we only had more laws, we could MAKE you safe.” pfft, all the while, cherry picking when to apply a law, and prosecuting law enforcement agencies and agents who ARE attempting to enforce current law, namely immigration given Obama Justice Dept. v. ICE lawsuit.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Dusty on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Well said.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Since our domestic security is almost entirely based on spying on, inconveniencing, harassing, groping, exposing, and encroaching on everyday American’s civil rights, how in the world would they have ever caught these two losers? IT’s NOT WORKING. If I were the president, I would reassess the situation and maybe replace Napolitano with a counter terrorism expert. BEFORE we lose more rights. Not after she uses this as an excuse to beef up baby bottle confiscation.

scalleywag on April 22, 2013 at 5:55 PM

How does a left-wing buzzword like that end up in a Republican aide’s statement?

Because today’s GOP Republicans ARE left-wing.
Pay attention. The only difference between today’s GOP and the socialist/Marxist left is in what they claim to stand for.

Smoke and mirrors. The two-party system is nothing but a game, with both sides pretending to stand for completely different things. When one side is in power, the other side pounds their fists and screams and yells in outrage, but never really does anything more than that (See Darrell Issa). Anyone see him actually bring anyone up on charges? Nope. Smoke and mirrors. He’s a fraud.

The Republicans scream and yell, whine and cry, stomp their feet and slam their fists on tables, but in the end, they do absolutely nothing to stop any of it. They have no intention to. They simply know that when people eventually get sick and tired of the Democrats, they’ll be forced to vote for the Republicans, and all of the same people will remain in power, simply reversing roles for the next four to eight years until it reverses again.

Either way, the same people always remain in power. Whatever differences you THINK they have, is just an illusion.

Gregor on April 22, 2013 at 5:56 PM

[Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM]

The bill was an abomination before the Boston Bombing, so tweaking it to address Boston bombing related issues brings the bill back to the status of … wait for it, … an abomination.

Dusty on April 22, 2013 at 5:57 PM

Rubio spokesman Alex Conant e-mails:

Alex, it seems you’re reading this, or someone’s letting you know what’s going on here.

You had better snap Rubio’s attention around, champ. He needs a serious dose of unpleasant citizen reality, in a damn hurry.

Midas on April 22, 2013 at 5:59 PM

If you are going to blame a piece of legislation that is not even a law for a terrorist attack carried out by people who entered the country legally then why not go whole hog?

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

No, I blame the government who refuses to follow current law on the terrorist attack. Thinking that new laws will suddenly make the government crack down on illegal immigrants or immigrants like the older brother who should have been deported because we pass a bunch of new laws is naive at best.

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 6:01 PM

No, blame the TOO BIG TO FAIL DHS.

More top heavy authoritarian monopoly of power did NOT prevent the Boston terrorism.

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 6:01 PM

There are major tectonic shifts in the ideology of the two parties, where the foundation is moving left, and those that push back are seen to be moving right.

Can’t wait for the late night ads that tell me I can support a gay in Los Angeles for just pennies per day, and I’ll get letters and photo updates as my gay lives and flourishes in fabulous land.

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 6:04 PM

The point I was trying to make (in 140 characters) is that allowing immigrants to apply for permanent residence, but not eventually be able to apply for the full benefits of citizenship, has been tried and failed

WTF is he babbling about ?
I was an immigrant and I got permanent residence , and then US citizenship. Did they stop doing that ?

burrata on April 22, 2013 at 6:04 PM

watch Congress appropriate funding for more anti-terrorism billions in gadgets, like Rumsfeld et al. with their TSA microwave passenger frisk security points. As if we NEED more drones flying over our homes.

Who benefits? BIG BUSINESS that spends US tax funds while building squat as US tax funds are building 3rd world nations’ infrastructure (Burma).

maverick muse on April 22, 2013 at 6:05 PM

The point I was trying to make (in 140 characters) is that allowing immigrants to apply for permanent residence, but not eventually be able to apply for the full benefits of citizenship, has been tried and failed, and has had disastrous social consequences in Europe today.

The same Europe where they actually consider their nations sovereign and are tight on immigration?

The disastrous social consequences were the problems of multiculturalism. It had nothing to do with people granted permanent residence being unable to apply for the full benefits of citizenship.

ButterflyDragon on April 22, 2013 at 6:07 PM

This is no immigration issue. Nor is it gun control. Neither is it race.

But it is a religious one for Islam alone is the problem.

Islam has always been a bad warlike religion.

Is bad religion, religion?

Well, these Muslims bear watching and they have more than earned it.

To me, Islam is a religion on probation at best.

Time to call it what it is.

A troublemaker in the extreme costing innocent lives.

Sherman1864 on April 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I’m going to invoke whatever HA Amendment that there is that gives me a right to remain silent so that my real feelings don’t draw the banhammer.

**fumes are coming out of my ears as I am waaaaay past DEFCON-McCAIN**

Resist We Much on April 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Conant deserves a thread all his own for the ridiculous statements he’s making.

I don’t think he even knows what he’s talking about. He’s just blindly reaching into a bag of immigration demagoguery and pulling out whatever he grabs first.

ButterflyDragon on April 22, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Also, the picture on the front page would make a nice “don’t vote for these guys” poster.

Free Indeed on April 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM

To the contrary, to the extent it renews fears of terrorism, it will strengthen the case for reform, since the bipartisan proposal fixes major gaps in our national security posture (by implementing a visa-exit system, registering and background-checking undocumented immigrants, gaining 100% awareness of our southern border, etc.).

It’s sort of startling to learn via this Red on Red street fight how crazy and disoriented the left side of the right side can be. This a@@-fu*king little nitwit Senate aid lives in a world that I can only describe as Democrat.

Jaibones on April 22, 2013 at 6:20 PM

I’m going to invoke whatever HA Amendment that there is that gives me a right to remain silent so that my real feelings don’t draw the banhammer.

**fumes are coming out of my ears as I am waaaaay past DEFCON-McCAIN**

Resist We Much on April 22, 2013 at 6:08 PM

You’re a little scary when you’re trembling with rage. :)

I’m going to the other thread a while.

Over there.

Way over there.

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 6:21 PM

really wants this immigration bill…

libfreeordie on April 22, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Non-union, you’re killing me.

CW on April 22, 2013 at 6:24 PM

This is the most outrageous crap the GOP has ever said. It’s disgusting that the GOP wants to avoid responsibility for the Boston bombing by blaming “our society”.

It wasn’t “our society” that did this, it was our immigration system that allows known enemies of America to enter.

I’m Republican, but SHAME ON THE GOP !!

Axion on April 22, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Erick Erickson’s blog post is spot on and Rubio needs to jump off of the immigration train..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Terrye, I bet you considered Richard Lugar a staunch conservative.

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Erick Erickson’s blog post is spot on and Rubio needs to jump off of the immigration train..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Rubio lied debating Charlie Crist, saying he was against amnesty. He lied when he said he would leave the Gang of Eight if the bill wasn’t enforcement first. He is lying when he says this bill isn’t amnesty.

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Every jagoff in that photo needs to be primaried, and their political careers over.

After Boston, they should be running away from this issue, yet they double down?

They’re all dead to me –et tu Rubio?

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on April 22, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Sen. Rubio: Your “spokesman” called your base a bunch of slaveholders. And you haven’t fired him. You will NEVER walk that back. It’s called accidentally telling us what you really think. You’re done. Finito. Ovah. Buh-bye.

Rational Thought on April 22, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Jennifer Rubin had an interesting piece in which she actually quoted Rubio, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan who talked about making the immigration system safer…rather than just maintaining the status quo…which is what some people seem to want to do.

Terrye

Let us know when they propose such a plan. In the meantime, I guess you’ll have to continue relying on strawmen, lol.

xblade on April 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM

bw222 on April 22, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I like Rubio..I just don’t think the bill is strong enough on border enforcement..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Sir Gofsalot in Chief is always a socialis/commie.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Ask yourself this: How many women did you see in traditional Muslim garb prior to 9/11 versus today?

bw222 on April 22, 2013

This is an interesting observation and feels true. Actually, in my own experience the rise in traditional Islamic dress is seen very heavily at the airport (the people working there, not the passengers). I wonder why this is? Do you have any thoughts on why?

JonPrichard on April 22, 2013 at 6:49 PM

I like Rubio..I just don’t think the bill is strong enough on border enforcement..:)

Dire Straits

You like a guy who is lying to you about the bill he’s pushing, and who lied to his constituents on this issue in 2010 to get elected?

Yikes!

xblade on April 22, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I believe our politicians since they have all PROMISED that they will enforce these new LAWS.

Even though they never enforced the OLD ones.

Why do I now believe them?

Because… uh… er… umm… ahhh

Well, they wouldn’t dare lie to us twice, would they?

profitsbeard on April 22, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Strongly considering sitting out the 2014 election. Stopping this bill will likely end those thoughts.

KMav on April 22, 2013 at 6:56 PM

By the way, here’s a little irony in regards to the Redstate piece. Eric complains in his article about republicans resorting to namecalling against those who don’t support amnesty, yet his moderator, BillS, is doing the same thing on the same article, lol.

xblade on April 22, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Nice to see the folks at Hot Air taking stuff out of context in an attempt to smear people. I mean really…If you guys are going to use the same tactics as the Democrats and exploit a terrorist attack to advance your political goals,maybe you could find some family members of the victims to use as props..Why not? If you are going to blame a piece of legislation that is not even a law for a terrorist attack carried out by people who entered the country legally then why not go whole hog?

Jennifer Rubin had an interesting piece in which she actually quoted Rubio, Rand Paul and Paul Ryan who talked about making the immigration system safer…rather than just maintaining the status quo…which is what some people seem to want to do.

Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) issued a statement:

I disagree with those who say that the terrorist attack in Boston has no bearing on the immigration debate. Any immigration reform we pursue should make our country safer and more secure. If there are flaws in our immigration system that were exposed by the attack in Boston, any immigration reform passed by Congress this year should address those flaws. Congress needs time to conduct more hearings and investigate how our immigration and national security systems could be improved going forward.

The attack reinforces why immigration reform should be a lengthy, open and transparent process, so that we can ask and answer important questions surrounding every facet of the bill. But we still have a broken system that needs to be fixed.

Rubio got some unexpected help today from Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who generally supports immigration reform but would “require annual votes of Congress to establish that the border is truly secure.” (Consider, however, what happens under that arrangement if liberal Democrats were to control both the House and Senate.) Today Paul sent a letter to Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.), urging, “There should be hearings in the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee that study the national security aspects of this situation, making sure that our current immigration system gives individuals from high-risk areas of the world heightened scrutiny.”

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Just do everyone a favor and shut up. Even Bob Beckel understands we have a problem with immigration.

RovesChins on April 22, 2013 at 6:59 PM

xblade on April 22, 2013 at 6:53 PM

What is he lying about??..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM

But we still have a broken system that needs to be fixed.

Terrye on April 22, 2013 at 5:42 PM

No, we have crooked politicians who need to be fixed.

They don’t implement the existing laws.

That’s what’s “broken”.

Not them placing blame on statutes they do not enforce anyway.

Deceitful weasels using misdirection to sucker the gullible.

profitsbeard on April 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

MeanWhile…………..

US Senate immigration reform deal

Republican Rep. Paul Ryan says ‘I want to modernize our immigration laws,’ doesn’t think Boston attack should delay reform – @PoliticalTicker

11 mins ago from politicalticker.blogs.nn.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Update: Rubio spokesman Alex Conant e-mails:I regret evoking slavery in the context of the current debate because obviously there’s no comparison between the plight of slaves and today’s illegal immigrants. The point I was trying to make (in 140 characters) is that allowing immigrants to apply for permanent residence, but not eventually be able to apply for the full benefits of citizenship, has been tried and failed, and has had disastrous social consequences in Europe today.

Apology not accepted. But we’re used to the abuses from open borders RINOs.

AH_C on April 22, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Strongly considering sitting out the 2014 election. Stopping this bill will likely end those thoughts.

KMav on April 22, 2013 at 6:56 PM

I’m voting, but will not vote for anyone in the general election that doesn’t fight against this bill. I will write in a candidate in the general election. The GOP establishment thinks once they ram through immigration they can pivot to Obamacare and pretend to be conservative. It works for McCain and Graham so what do we expect? At this point I don’t care if a bad candidate beats Graham in the primary and loses in the general election. It should be a lesson to RINOs like Graham that if you sellout you will get booted out of office.

Wigglesworth on April 22, 2013 at 7:10 PM

What is he lying about??..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Dire Straits:Good Evening Dire,and,hows your day goin——-:)

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Dire Straits:Good Evening Dire,and,hows your day goin——-:)

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Good evening..Day is going well..I hope yours is going good..:)

PS..Hat tip to the Canadian authorities to catching those terrorists..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Yeah, it’s a great bill… it required SIX TRIGGERS to allow full amnesty.

1) DHS Must have A PLAN to reduce illegal crossings.
Check… we’ve got a plan. It’ll fail, but we’ve got that done.

2) DNS must have A PLAN to finish the border fence…
Check… hey, lets just run the 1986 plan again. Why not, you bought it once.

3) If 90% of border crossings aren’t caught we’ll require
#4) we’ll give the DHS more money to have a new plan.
Check.. they’ll have a new plan… that won’t work either.

5 – E-verify required.
Ok, might be tricky to avoid this… it might actually happen.

6) Visa checks on entry/exit. Which won’t stop overstays; or really change anything. Why not… check.

So full amnesty for all in exchange for a bunch of government spending on rehashing failed plans… and e-verify.

Was that really supposed to sound impressive? To who?

1, 2, 3, 4 and 6 and pointless and toothless “triggers”.

Any bets they give up e-verify to get liberals on board to sign it?

gekkobear on April 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Society’s at fault?
Lets arrest them instead.

gordo on April 22, 2013 at 7:22 PM

Republican Rep. Paul Ryan says ‘I want to modernize our immigration laws,’ doesn’t think Boston attack should delay reform – @PoliticalTicker

11 mins ago from politicalticker.blogs.nn.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

And the reason I voted for you, Ryan, is because if you and Romney had won the Democrat party would never EVER have allowed a Republican to sign an amnesty bill. When the GOP wants to stop acting like Democrats let me know. Until then, kiss off Ryan.

txhsmom on April 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM

If DHS can’t secure the border in five years, the “border commission” will issue a report recommending next steps and … that’s it.

This is a complete farse.

This is just pure Amnesty nothing more.

Amnesty day one.

Enforcement NEVER.

Pass the checking to make sure we account for those coming into the USA on Visas but the rest of this is pure garbage.

Secure the United States first. Make it very difficult to stay here illegally so many will self deport by forcing the use of E-Verify. Then eventually after the border is secure we can talk about limited Amnesty for those with special skills.

Steveangell on April 22, 2013 at 7:26 PM

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:05 PM

And the reason I voted for you, Ryan, is because if you and Romney had won the Democrat party would never EVER have allowed a Republican to sign an amnesty bill. When the GOP wants to stop acting like Democrats let me know. Until then, kiss off Ryan.

txhsmom on April 22, 2013 at 7:23 PM

txhmom:

I’m STUNNED as well,and with this Boston Bombings Immigration
failure,it needs to be slowed down,..ugh!:)

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:29 PM

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Good evening..Day is going well..I hope yours is going good..:)

PS..Hat tip to the Canadian authorities to catching those terrorists..:)

Dire Straits on April 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Dire Straits:

Everything is good,and Kudos to Canada,and boyo,that caught me off guard!:)

canopfor on April 22, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Any bets they give up e-verify to get liberals on board to sign it?

gekkobear on April 22, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Why would they care?

After all on Day 1 all the illegals become legal so will easily pass E-Verify. No doubt there is a loophole in the bill to add all the new illegals to the list. They have a year to lie and apply that is a huge loophole to start with.

“Paying Taxes” In reality that means you file your taxes and get a really big welfare check from the Government for most taxpayers. EITC. Child Tax Credit and on and on.

They should call this the Immigration book of Lies bill.

Steveangell on April 22, 2013 at 7:33 PM

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