Lindsey Graham: FBI missed Tsarnaev’s trip to Russia because his name was misspelled on the flight manifest

posted at 12:43 pm on April 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Sounds bad, but look at it from the feds’ perspective: How likely is it that someone would misspell, er, “Tsarnaev”?

If Graham’s right then somehow, twelve years after 9/11, we missed a budding terrorist because of a typo. Aren’t passengers also required to give some sort of identifying number, be it a passport number, a driver’s license, or a SSN, before flying? I want to know which number Tamerlan Tsarnaev gave to Aeroflot. If it was a bona fide ID number and the feds missed it, that’s … very bad. If it was a fake number (and remember, per his Amazon wish list, he had an interest in how to make fake IDs), then that’s a clue that his trip to Dagestan maybe wasn’t for innocent purposes after all. But then, if he didn’t want people knowing he was there, why’d he use his real name? Graham makes it sound in the clip like it was a misspelling, not an alias. Proof that Tamerlan had nothing to hide, or further evidence that he had a moronic streak?

The family’s explanation for why Tamerlan went overseas is because he wanted to visit his father. Does that check out? Let’s ask his aunt:

As attention focuses on Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s 6-month visit to Russia’s restive Caucasus region, an aunt said that – contrary to previous reports – he did not come to Dagestan in order to visit his father.

Tsarnaev left the United States in January 2012 and arrived in Dagestan around March, Patimat Suleimanova said. His father, Anzor Tsarnaev, only arrived in the republic in May.

“He came to become acquainted with [Dagestan],” Suleimanova said. “He would sit at home and pray. He was learning to read the Koran. He saw relatives, friends.”

Ed posted the following this morning but I want to re-post it because it’s a potential blockbuster yet no other media outlets have picked it up. Everyone knows by now that Russia asked the FBI to investigate Tsarnaev in 2011. According to NBC Boston, though, they reached out to the FBI again just last year, based on intelligence they gathered on him in Dagestan — and got no reply:

A police official source in Makhachkala, Dagestan, told NBC News on Sunday that the Russian internal security service reached out to the FBI last November with some questions about Tamerlan, and handed over a copy of case file on him.

Tsarnaev had first popped up on the local police radar in Dagestan last summer, the source said. During routine surveillance of an individual known to be involved in the militant Islamic underground movement, the police witnessed Tamerlan meet the latter at a Salafi mosque in Makhachkala, the police official said.

It was one of six times in total that surveillance officials witnessed Tsarnaev meeting this militant at the same mosque, according to the police official.

The militant contact later disappeared, the police official said, but so did Tsarnaev before investigators had a chance to speak with him. The FBI never responded, according to the Dagestani police official.

Tsarnaev’s meeting with a “militant” is interesting for two reasons. One, obviously, is because it hints at training. Two, less obviously, is that it pinpoints an irony in his motives: For all of his alleged interest in Chechnya, setting off bombs in America is probably counterproductive to the Chechen cause. The country’s opposition leader told Michael Moynihan this morning that the bombings are a “gift” to Putin because they’ll give Moscow international political cover for future crackdowns in the region. Per the Jerusalem Post, Chechen fighters are likely split about the bombings: The global-jihadis among them will cheer any attack on America, but the ones focused more on independence from Russia will worry that this complicates the cause by increasing U.S. cooperation with Putin. Tamerlan apparently fell into the first group, not the second. Otherwise he would have stayed in Dagestan and fought there, right?

Exit question via Gabe Malor and others on Twitter: If the Tsarnaevs were granted asylum due to persecution back home, why did the father return? And why did his son return to visit him?

Update: The aunt’s claiming today that, despite indications to the contrary in Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s YouTube account, he was religious but never a “fanatic.” Good to know. Alternate theory: Maybe he just hated marathons. This is interesting, though:

Suleimanova said Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had planned to visit Makhachkala, the Dagestani city where the brothers’ parents live, in May. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev graduated from Cambridge Rindge & Latin High School in 2011 and was enrolled at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth.

Also:

Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.) asserted Monday that the FBI was unaware of Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s six-month visit to Russia because his name was misspelled. But there were some questions about whether the FBI’s inquiry ever reached a stage at which his name would have been fed into the master database for terrorist and other watchlists.

He wasn’t on a watch list, even though a foreign government contacted the feds about him two years ago specifically to warn about extremism?


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Dems/liberals win big.
 
gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

rogerb on April 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM

12 year after 9/11 and potential terrorists can slip through the cracks due to a mispelled name. Yeah immigration laws are going to work//

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Don’t worry, other South Asian and Arabic names are not difficult to spell.

Viator on April 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Accidents happen, mmkay?

Akzed on April 22, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Billions and billions of dollars spent by DHS and TSA…

And they can’t spell?

Our national security now depends on having employees who graduated middle school?

The idiots are indeed in charge.

coldwarrior on April 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

And the Gang of 8 wants us to trust government in processing millions of illegals accurately and efficiently?

The government can’t even deal with LEGAL immigrants effectively already.

hawkeye54 on April 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Somehow, Democrats — and lots of squishy, moderate Republicans like Graham — will manage to take away from this the need for more government regulation and control, rather than seeing it as further evidence of the utter failure of the TSA and the need to disband that agency posthaste.

Shump on April 22, 2013 at 12:48 PM

This obviously calls for Executive Priviledge…do it Dear Leader.

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

“You’re Safe Now, Citizen. Be On Your Way.”

Jeddite on April 22, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Don’t worry, other South Asian and Arabic names are not difficult to spell.

Back in the days of yore, if Immigration officials had difficulties in pronouncing or spelling someone’s name, it would be changed for them.

hawkeye54 on April 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM

For all of his alleged interest in Chechnya, setting off bombs in America is probably counterproductive to the Chechen cause.

Not unless bombing the Boston Marathon(under the Russian flag) was to forewarn people about the coming Russian Winter Olympics.

ninjapirate on April 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM

This sounds like a fake passport…don’t they scan the passports electronically and match to the flight manifest..?

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Ineptness and PC will kill all.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Billions and billions of dollars spent by DHS and TSA…

And they can’t spell?

Our national security now depends on having employees who graduated middle school?

The idiots are indeed in charge.

coldwarrior on April 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

But, but we’re in safe hands. I feel them every time the TSA gropes me at the check point.

Mark Steyn points out that the rest of us go through ridiculous security theater but let this guy slip through because of the Spell-Checher Malfunction.

Steyn as usual points out the humor but it’s more infuriating than funny.

Drained Brain on April 22, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Osama Bin Loden.

portlandon on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

This obviously calls for Executive Priviledge…do it Dear Leader.

*sigh*….too many things do. And other than bouts of public indignation, investigative committees and sternly worded letters nothing much of significance is usually done.

hawkeye54 on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

‘Wonderful’ lives

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Don’t they scan your passport for international flights?

By the way, what passport was he using? It makes a difference.

This sounds like incompetent ass-covering coming from the mouth of a known buffoon.

Marcus Traianus on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

This is what happens when cattle elect a President who rode the Affirmative Action train all the way to an Ivy League “education,” and the Oval Office, and who can’t pronounce and, by logical extension, spell “Corpsman.”

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Osama Bin Loden.

portlandon on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

LOL…

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Ineptness and PC will kill all.

Not everyone……someone has to stay alive to do all the menial work.

hawkeye54 on April 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Perfect summation of what happened and continues to happen.

You pay taxes, for nada, nada, nada. All are derelict in their duties, with NO exceptions, from Obama on down.

Obama failed to protect the nation.

The FBI failed.

The CIA failed.

The DHS failed.

The Boston Police failed.

And Islam is still the unmentionable root of it all.

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Lindsey Graham: FBI missed Tsarnaev’s trip to Russia because his name was misspelled on the flight manifest

So can we make all immigrants who come here change their names to Bob and John Smith?

////

Bitter Clinger on April 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Meanwhile, some guy named Starnaev is wondering why he’s in Gitmo.

Mark1971 on April 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Sir Golfsalot goes to Texus…to rake in dough, not to visit the rednecks…not that they’d need him. When Texas falls, it’s over, over.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Mark1971 on April 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Yep.

And, he’s a Baptist.

coldwarrior on April 22, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I think it’s pretty cool that Moronic Azzwipes run
our Government…..I mean, nothing bad will ever happen
to anyone of us right??

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

FBI missed Tsarnaev’s trip to Russia because his name was misspelled on the flight manifest

I’m a little lost here. What would have happened if Tsarnaev’s name was spelled correctly? Would he have shown up on some FBI list? I don’t get the sense his travel to Russia would have set off any alarm bells at the time.

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Ms. Lindsey can go straight to Hell. Is derelict on amnesty and “coming out of the shadows”, along with Rove, Boehner, Paul, Rubio and all the other charlatans, whom Faux promotes.

I hope they all go the way of Romney, the scum of the Earth.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

“Obama Bin Lyin — Obama Bin Lyin — is there an Obama Bin Lyin on this plane?”

The Rogue Tomato on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Texus = Texas

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

So did they did an oppsy 6 months later also?

I mean really. If the subject of your inquiry disappears because you got the name wrong do you think you might want to continue the inquiry when he checks back in at US Customs 6 months later?

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

As someone pointed out on the other thread …

… you have to present a passport in order to get onto a flight or even a series of flights which will eventually take you oveerseas.

The passports have your name electronically encoded – a mismatch between the name you book the ticket under and your passport will cause BIG problems.

Lindsey Graham obviously makes the mistake of thinking everyone is a dumb as he is … uhmmmm, NO.

PolAgnostic on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I think it’s pretty cool that Moronic Azzwipes run
our Government…..I mean, nothing bad will ever happen
to anyone of us right??

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Can’t wait for gubmint health care, can you?

The Rogue Tomato on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Obama is an inept oaf, on purpose.

His brothers succeed, apace.

Wake up America!!!

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Putting on my terrorist speculation thinking cap, the bombing was meant to setup attacks on Russia’s Winter Olympics…

1st they would bomb innocent civilians to show the world they are crazy… it would be symbolic(russian flag, sporting event)… then they would attack soft Russian targets… then around time for the winter olympics they would take credit for the Boston Marathon bombing in order to scare people from going to the Olympics… or the people who trained him would actually target the Olympics.

ninjapirate on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

So did they did an oppsy 6 months later also?

I mean really. If the subject of your inquiry disappears because you got the name wrong do you think you might want to continue the inquiry when he checks back in at US Customs 6 months later?

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Indeed. If they’re saying they have no record of him leaving, something should have tipped them off when he was returning when the system said he never left.

Bitter Clinger on April 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Don’t they scan your passport for international flights?

By the way, what passport was he using? It makes a difference.

This sounds like incompetent ass-covering coming from the mouth of a known buffoon.

Marcus Traianus on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Of couse they do scan passports for intl flights, rere’s no way his name could have been mispelled since it’s not entered manually in the computer. Tis is such a pile of donkey shite.

jimver on April 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I think it’s pretty cool that Moronic Azzwipes run
our Government…..I mean, nothing bad will ever happen
to anyone of us right??

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Can’t wait for gubmint health care, can you?

The Rogue Tomato on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

BINGO!!!

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

I think it’s pretty cool that Moronic Azzwipes run
our Government…..I mean, nothing bad will ever happen
to anyone of us right??

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Can’t wait for gubmint health care, can you?

The Rogue Tomato on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Oh yeah.

Go in for a simple MRI and come out with a heart transplant instead.

Bitter Clinger on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

This is what happens when cattle elect a President who rode the Affirmative Action train all the way to an Ivy League “education,” and the Oval Office, and who can’t pronounce and, by logical extension, spell “Corpsman.”

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Who thinks there are 57 states.
Who thinks Hawaii is in Asia.
Who thinks the Argentina is contesting ownership of the Maldives.
Who put the wrong day and year down on a visit to Westminster Abbey.

etc.

Face it, the rat-eared coward is a lazy dummy no matter what the degrees on the wall say.

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

BTW, the 2018 world cup is also being hosted in Russia… so add that to the 2014 winter olympics as events jihadi chechens may want to use in order to embarrass Russia.

ninjapirate on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

This thought is not letting go of me – when you look at the boat picture, from above, the homes are incredibly close to each other and the boat sticks out like a thumb.

If they would not have locked down the city, allowed people to mill about, don’t you think that blood would have been uncovered sooner?

Add also the incredible ineptness of all the agencies, with all the special equipment, procedures, all sorts of resources…didn’t even have the boat on the radar until the owner had to have a cig.

The guy was shot at and escaped by foot…the ineptness all around is staggering.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

If my name was misspelled, they wouldn’t let me on the damn plane.

ORconservative on April 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Something I have not seen mentioned in all the traffic, a news source – the Daily Mail I think – published photos of the older brother’s apartment. It was a disaster, half-eaten food and clothes piled everywhere.

But, the thing that struck me first about it was, “Where did they make the bombs?” It obviously was not in that apartment.

IndieDogg on April 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Sounds bad, but look at it from the feds’ perspective: How likely is it that someone would misspell, er, “Tsarnaev”?

Here’s the problem with that observation — the misspelling does not matter. Tsarnaev most likely had the newer electronic passports. That would have been swiped at the counter rather than manually keyed. So unless someone is saying that his name was misspelled on the passport then we have bigger problems.

Dr. Dog on April 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Oh, but they call so many ‘heroes’.

It makes a mockery of the true heroes.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

ninjapirate on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Or, they are Muslim Terrorists who wanted to kill American Infidels.

kingsjester on April 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

How can you misspell Black Hat?

Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Is that what you brought me here to question me about, LT McCaffey? Flight logs and phone numbers? I think I’m done here your honor, and I’ll be headed back to my base at Gitmo….

—COL Nathan R Jessup

ted c on April 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM

FBI are a bunch of incompetent idiots who, I give than that, are burdened by the imbecilic PC policies and accompanying regulations (and by that I mean ‘don’t offend the religion of peace’ kind of regulations) and placed on them by this looser admin. FBI costed us 9/11 and now this.

jimver on April 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

…who thinks Austrian is a language

…who bows to every potentate he and Kerry come across, and etc.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Mohammed Atta wished he had it so damn good…..

ted c on April 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

This whole thing is a big misunderstanding: the brothers just felt that they didn’t have any American friends. Were they bullied when they were young? Did they fail to qualify for Head Start? It could have been any number of things that put them over the edge. Now one is dead and the other grievously injured–and all because America was not welcoming enough to them.

When will we learn to accept responsibility for the pain that we cause the rest of the world?

PD Quig on April 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

“You’re Safe Now, Citizen. Be On Your Way.”

“as long as you stay in your house”
- Black Helo Cmdr.

williampeck1958 on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Remember, it’s spelled M-U-R-K-O-W-S-K-I.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Did I miss a link or discussion on HA about the Saudi who was initially a suspect? Seems weird that HA wouldn’t give more credence to those allegations.

iwasbornwithit on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Sounds bad, but look at it from the feds’ perspective: How likely is it that someone would misspell, er, “Tsarnaev”?

Here’s the problem with that observation — the misspelling does not matter. Tsarnaev most likely had the newer electronic passports. That would have been swiped at the counter rather than manually keyed. So unless someone is saying that his name was misspelled on the passport then we have bigger problems.

Dr. Dog on April 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Precisely.

jimver on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

This is what happens when cattle elect a President who rode the Affirmative Action train all the way to an Ivy League “education,” and the Oval Office, and who can’t pronounce and, by logical extension, spell “Corpsman.”

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 12:52 PM


The future is NOW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

PolAgnostic on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Can’t wait for gubmint health care, can you?

The Rogue Tomato on April 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

BINGO!!!

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Dis here a sayin’ dat yo wants yo some CT scan?

[Yes, I need a CAT scan]

Where da cat?

Any y’all done seen da cat?

Where we puts da cat?

- Your Friendly CommieCare Dispenser

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

As someone pointed out on the other thread …

… you have to present a passport in order to get onto a flight or even a series of flights which will eventually take you oveerseas.

The passports have your name electronically encoded – a mismatch between the name you book the ticket under and your passport will cause BIG problems.

Lindsey Graham obviously makes the mistake of thinking everyone is a dumb as he is … uhmmmm, NO.

PolAgnostic on April 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Not if somebody in a politically correct mode overlooked the discrepancy. Generally on an international flight your information (passport numbers, names on passport, etc.) is on file with the airline in advance. When you arrive at the airport your passport is either scanned or checked at the front check-in counter by the airline agent. The TSA checks your boarding pass against your official ID at their check point. As part of the security theater, they often request you to pronounce your own name.

Finally, on most international flights gate agents will check your passport against your boarding pass as you board, and a random squad of TSA employees who would otherwise be standing around may occasionally show up to do another random check. Sometimes, ICE immigration agents will show up right in the jetway to make a random check of documents as well on both outbound and inbound international flights.

Those comprise the vaunted layers of security that we endure and heaven knows what we frequent travelers may have to go through next because of this apparent goof.

Drained Brain on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was a resident alien. Begs the question as to what kind of a passport he used to travel to Russia.

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

If there is a bigger liar than Jay Carney, the spokesman for Obama, (other than Obama himself) I haven’t met that person. And I know a lot of people.

birdwatcher on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

PD Quig on April 22, 2013 at 1:05 PM

That’s just downright spooky. Don’t you dare put a sarc tag on that.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I think there’s a lot of ass covering for Obama going on in Washington about now, lest he be criticized in any way for what happened in Boston. Graham adds a little extra to that, for Obama. Plus, those people are desperate to get this immigration bill passed soon as possible. Obama wants it, and Congress wants it, too. It’s reportedly loaded with pork, and I’m sure everyone involved with its passage gets a slice of the pie.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

This would never have happened had FBI and DHS agents taken their “Fun with Fonnics” studies seriously.

Shy Guy on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

PolAgnostic on April 22, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Good stuff, PA!

Except, our “elites” are morons, too.

So it’s morons leading morons towards Utopia.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

This is just one of many reasons why we can’t legalize tens of millions of foreign invaders.

FloatingRock on April 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM

You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Why on earth not?

When you’re tenured, unaccountable and given power, you turn into a lazy good-for-nothing putz.

John the Libertarian on April 22, 2013 at 1:11 PM

If

there is a bigger liar than Jay Carney, the spokesman for Obama, (other than Obama himself) I haven’t met that person. And I know a lot of people.

birdwatcher on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

It’s a toss-up with Robert Gibbs. Gibbs lied more but Carney tells bigger lies.

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 1:12 PM

Let me guess, we’ll soon see a bill with $64.93 billion more for spell checkers……

what a deal!

ted c on April 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM

But Schumer says that we have got to rush through an immigration bill to make us safer. We don’t need to wait until we find out what happened here…

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Aren’t passengers also required to give some sort of identifying number, be it a passport number, a driver’s license, or a SSN, before flying?

When my wife and I went to Europe last month, we had to show our passports, but the only time they were scanned was when we landed.

bgoldman on April 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM

You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Umm yeah we can. If they aren’t doing their job; then obviously we are right about them being overpaid. In the last ten years, government salaries have increased dramatically, but apparently compentency has not.

And the fact that Libs are selective in their outrage about terrorist attacks just proves how hypocritical you are. Remember Bush got a memo crap. Well this guy could have been deported in 2009, and then he was flagged by Russian intelligence and the FBI interviewed him. What was Obama doing during this.. Probably sleeping like he was during Benghazi..

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM

So it was mis-spelled on his passport, too?

The lies are just starting.

Get on some big galoshes.

profitsbeard on April 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM

whatnaevs……/

ted c on April 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

How can you misspell Black Hat?

Electrongod on April 22, 2013 at 1:04 PM

LMAO!

THREAD WINNAH!

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

When my wife and I went to Europe last month, we had to show our passports, but the only time they were scanned was when we landed.

bgoldman on April 22, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I have an auto-immune disease that requires me to inject myself with medication. I have been on a plane a number of times since 9/11 including two weeks after. I always have a doctors note as to why I have a refridgerated bag with several needles and vials with me. Out of the 8 times I have flown, I have had to show the doctors note once. Nobody has flagged me, despite the xrays machines that have to show what I am carrying.

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Proving once again that you are an utterly stupid ‘erudite’.

Private enterprise demands that you perform for your pay. They are overpaid, way high, for what they deliver.

So are you.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM

OK, let’s be clear people, this whole “enemy combatant” controversy is artificial. It’s a PR stunt by McCain/Graham to remain relevant. Timothy McVeigh was tried, convicted and executed under federal civil laws. There is no reason not to follow a similar path in this case.

p_incorrect on April 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

We’re not talking about political appointees here — or are we?

unclesmrgol on April 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

OK, let’s be clear people, this whole “enemy combatant” controversy is artificial. It’s a PR stunt by McCain/Graham to remain relevant. Timothy McVeigh was tried, convicted and executed under federal civil laws. There is no reason not to follow a similar path in this case.

p_incorrect on April 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The problem is the longer they take to “mirandize” the subject and let him have representation; the more this opens this case to judicial and defense attorney shenanigans. They better decide what they are doing quickly and charge him..

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM

A typo? I call BS on that. Graham just doesn’t want our failure to be ascribed to us not keeping track of immigrants coming and going.

Wigglesworth on April 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Do you even stop to read the talking points? You must have gotten this one wrong. If we get what we paid for from government officials they would all be super competent, dilligent, honest, public servents. Instead we’ve got a bunch of bureaucrats that make the rat-eared coward look less lazy in comparison.

Happy Nomad on April 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM

My head spins at all the chicanery that is on-going…

When will the truth be told!

Scrumpy on April 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Radical Islam???

Islam is Radical.

Why say Radical Radical Islam.

Come on Lindsey get your information from the Quran. Every thing you said is straight out of it. It teaches every single believer of Islam to hate us and do all that is within their power to kill us. It teaches hate. Pure Hate.

Steveangell on April 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

HAL reads nothing just puts up what it is told to say…

*Sing Daisy HAL*

Scrumpy on April 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

What was Obama doing during this.. Probably sleeping like he was during Benghazi..

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 1:14 PM

What he always does. Sir Golfsalot was golfing and campaigning.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:21 PM

whatnaevs difference does it make now????? *cackling*

ted c on April 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Sounds bad, but look at it from the feds’ perspective: How likely is it that someone would misspell, er, “Tsarnaev”?

The guy was a green card holder (for some ridiculous reason). The spelling of his name on a flight manifest shouldn’t matter one bit since ICE should have known a green card holder with an id number was leaving the country. To blame any of this on a flight manifest is beyond crazy. ICE (and thus the FBI) depends on flight manifests to track resident aliens’ presence? What a friggin joke.

The feral government couldn’t track a snail. Or they won’t. Not an alien one, at least. They’ll track the every move of an American citizen, though – one actually born and raised in America. Those that they naturalize for no good reason and have no attachment or love for this nation … they’re free to do anything along with the illegals the feral government works for.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Those comprise the vaunted layers of security that we endure and heaven knows what we frequent travelers may have to go through next because of this apparent goof.

Drained Brain on April 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I don ‘t think they can overlook the discrepancy without having to alert or call a supervisor or someone other in the management chain if say, a check-in -in agent notices a discrepancy between the name on the ticket and the one on the passport. I witnessed a similar incident once and believe me there was quite a commo there, at that particular check-in counter, with 3 or 4 agents (different layers of management) trying to sort that passenger out. don’t know what happened in the end, coz I checked in ata different counter, but my impression was that they were telling that person that he couldn’t get on the flight unless some of his family fax pronto some extra docs like birth certificate, something like this. So, if this was the case with Tsarnaev, the whole episode would have been put in some sort of records. so, no, FBI doesn’t have any excuse for this overlook. Otherwise, you have correctly enumerated all layers of security that make our flying life so much more difficult. :) I am a frequent flyer, both domestic and intl and I have experienced all of said layers of security on my own, though the random checks that you mentioned there, thank god, do not happen often. Mist of the time the TSA agents in question are too busy sitting on their azzes.

jimver on April 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

It’s been a while since I took an international flight, but it seems to me when someone comes into the country, they show their permanent resident card and passport, both of which are scanned. Are they all misspelled? If not then why are they relying on typed lists that could have spelling errors, and if they are, why aren’t they checking to make sure it’s not a spelling error?

Oh, and an obligatory, show me where it is misspelled he manifest because I don’t believe you.

And finally, LMAO. After years of horror stories about misspellings gumming up the smooth workings of tracking those on the list and multiple spelling of the same person’s name, and the terrorists knowing it gums up the works, the successful terrorist skates through unobserved because of a misspelling of his name. You can’t make this up.

Dusty on April 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

The guy was shot at and escaped by foot…the ineptness all around is staggering.

Schadenfreude on April 22, 2013 at 1:02 PM

And somewhere between Monday afternoon and Friday evening they never thought to see what possible Islamist terrorists live in the area? They should have known it was these guys on Monday afternoon. Embarrassing that they had to rely on Lord and Taylor cameras and the release of the pictures to get the public to make the id.

monalisa on April 22, 2013 at 1:22 PM

The problem is the longer they take to “mirandize” the subject and let him have representation; the more this opens this case to judicial and defense attorney shenanigans. They better decide what they are doing quickly and charge him..

melle1228 on April 22, 2013 at 1:18 PM

The only problem is that McCain/Graham are senile. If you’d listened to what Huckabee and judge Napolitano had to say yesterday at Fox, you’d understand that this thing is nothing more than a PR stunt.

p_incorrect on April 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

So let’s pay them even MORE and get continued mediocre grossly unqualified employees…

You’re an Idiot.

ToddPA on April 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Conservatives love to have their cake and eat it too. You can’t b!tch about how government officials are grossly overpaid and then turn around blaming them for mediocre work. You get what you pay for jack.

HotAirLib on April 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

WTF?

katy the mean old lady on April 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Even if it’s true, it is unacceptable .

Essentially it boils down to ‘I didn’t switch my brain on and didn’t double check’.

Is Graham shilling for the FBI?

EnglishRogue on April 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Sounds bad, but look at it from the feds’ perspective: How likely is it that someone would misspell, er, “Tsarnaev”?

Here’s the problem with that observation — the misspelling does not matter. Tsarnaev most likely had the newer electronic passports. That would have been swiped at the counter rather than manually keyed. So unless someone is saying that his name was misspelled on the passport then we have bigger problems.

Dr. Dog on April 22, 2013 at 1:03 PM

There’s an assumption here that the human who missed the typo was capable of detecting the typo.

The TSA is full of people who couldn’t find work anywhere else, remember?

And lets not forget the talented immigration work done at the US/Canadian border that allowed a man with tuberculosis to enter even though the passport scan said “grab that guy!”

Anyone remember the performance regarding Andrew Speaker?

Once in Montréal, Speaker rented a car and drove across the Canada – United States border. A Customs and Border Protection Officer failed to detain him at the frontier, disregarding a warning after he had passed Speaker’s passport through the Treasury Enforcement Communications System (TECS) to hold the traveler, wear a protective mask when dealing with him, and call health authorities because he “did not look sick”.

Whats the TSA excuse this time? “He didn’t look like a terrorist”?

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 1:24 PM

They both would have done Hajj at some point. Probably together. Do we know precisely where the younger brother was when his brother went to Russia?

Buddahpundit on April 22, 2013 at 1:25 PM

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