Carney: Tsarnaev charged, won’t be held as an enemy combatant; Update: Tsarnaev cooperating with feds

posted at 3:11 pm on April 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Examiner, they’ve hit him with just two counts thus far, one of which is conspiracy to use a weapon of mass destruction (i.e. an IED) against persons or property in the U.S., but that’s enough for a death sentence if the DOJ chooses to seek it. I sense some anger on the right that the feds aren’t treating him as an “enemy combatant,” but I think that has more to do with the condemnatory power of that term than the legal consequences flowing from it. Terrorism is qualitatively different from common crime in its political motivation and so people want Tsarnaev to be treated qualitatively differently by the justice system. That’s also what drives much of the objections to Mirandizing terrorists, I think: It’s not that Miranda will matter hugely in determining whether he talks, it’s that by Mirandizing him you’re treating him like a common criminal rather than a man who’s declared war on the United States. (Tsarnaev’s motive is still unknown but we all know which way the arrow’s pointing given his dead brother’s radicalism.) I’m more of a bottom-line guy on this sort of thing, though. Is there any chance that he’ll end up going free because the feds aren’t treating him as an EC? Nah. Given the video/photo evidence against him, at worst this guy’s going to prison forever. At best he’s getting the needle. Here’s a glimpse at the evidence against him from the complaint, which is posted at Legal Insurrection:

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They’ve also got the carjacking victim set to testify against him — and I recommend reading the full complaint for more on him, to see what he had to endure. The bombers did, allegedly, tell him right up front that they were the people who blew up the marathon, and according to the feds, the victim did indeed escape. He wasn’t “let go,” which, as noted this morning, would have been an insane gesture of magnanimity by the two most wanted men in America.

But as I was saying, I don’t think EC status matters (much). They can’t try him at a military tribunal regardless because he’s a U.S. citizen; even Lindsey Graham acknowledged that on Fox News this morning. They’re not sparing him their toughest interrogators just because he’s not an EC: The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team will be grilling him. Arguably, they shouldn’t even be allowed to consider designating him an EC unless/until they prove that he’s part of a group that “planned, authorized, committed, or aided the terrorist attacks that occurred on September 11, 2001, or harbored such organizations or persons” per the 2001 AUMF. Their best weapon in getting him to share intel is the death sentence hanging over his head, which doesn’t depend on EC status. If he wants to live — and it sure seemed like he did on Friday — then it’s time to talk.

Here’s Carney sounding very grand indeed about handling terrorists in federal court. Exit quotation:

Update: For what it’s worth:


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Tsarnaev is a squealer. Lucky for us, which will probably mean that State or WH will try to shut him up (Saudi national).

nobar on April 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I would prefer life in solitary confinement, so he can think about how he killed his brother (through the constant ringing in his ears from all the gunfire and explosives).

Sharke on April 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM

How is he cooperating? By denying any involvement by others? That may or may not be true. If he is lying, he’s not cooperating.

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:14 PM

It is never good when liberals expose their America hating tummies to the nation. This bomber will become their hero given time.

trs on April 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Are we allowed to speak of public hangings on HA now..?

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM

If he is an American citizen, I believe that he should be given that all US citizens on US soil are afforded. Be very careful about how much power we cede to the federal government.

MoreLiberty on April 22, 2013 at 3:15 PM

I sense some anger on the right that the feds aren’t treating him as an “enemy combatant,”

Pssst…John McCain isn’t on the Right and never has been.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

how soon til mooch pays him a visit?

GhoulAid on April 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Yeah I really don’t care if he is put under the enemy combatant hat or not. All I care about is the little coward to stay true to form and lay out the who/what/where/when/how of all this. The why is a given.

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

What you should expect based on Carney/Obama history.

1. Fast and Furious lies, stall, misdirection and fraud.

2. Benzazie, fast and furious lies, stall, misdirection and fraud.

3. Boston Bombing by immigrants as the immigration bill in up in the U.S.Senate and House.

some more fast and furious lies, stall, misdirection fraud, bull shit and trips to Texas to avoid questions……

They lie, other than that they play golf and take trips.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 22, 2013 at 3:16 PM

Sorry, Allah, but this is a big deal. This is about respect for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Tsarnaev is an American citizen. He was arrested on US soil. He was not on the battlefield firing at soldiers when he was arrested. He was hiding in someone’s boat. Like it or not, he is entitled to the exact same due process, the exact same protections, and the exact same Constitutional rights as any other citizen.

I understand the desire to say that he’s a terrorist and that he gets treated differently. But open that door and you’ve opened the door to tyranny even farther than it has already been opened. Happen to be a bank robber who’s robbed 3 banks in a row? Terrorist. Get a little too boisterous in your support for the tea party? Enemy combatant.

Think we don’t have to be worried about this stuff? We do. Just look at Boston on Friday. The blatant, repetitive violation of the Constitutional rights of every citizen in that city is disgusting. Rand Paul had to stage a filibuster just to get the administration to begrudgingly say that they couldn’t use a drone to execute an American citizen on American soil.

We need to be very worried. And vigilant.

Shump on April 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Tsarnaev is a squealer.
nobar on April 22, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Not yet, but when he is introduced to his supermax cellmate spouse, he will be.

He has purty eyes.

cozmo on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

He can’t be an enemy combatant.

He is a US citizen, who committed a crime on US soil.

Personally I don’t care. As long as he gets a needle in his arm, I couldn’t care less which color of jurisprudence inserts it.

Is it that important? I also need to point out the military tribunals have a pretty poor record of conviction, and a high rate of being overturned on appeal.

Just sayin’.

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

He’ll die an old man in prison unless somebody gets to him there…

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Tsarnaev cooperating with feds…

My brudder made me do it. That’s why I ran over him with the SUV.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Opie wants this Muslim savage to be talked to like Andy talked to him.

Dzhokhar, I’m verrrrrrrrrrrrry disappointed in you.

- Andy

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Will Eric Holder’s old law firm be representing him?

kingsjester on April 22, 2013 at 3:19 PM

For what it’s worth:

He’ll live and become the poor misunderstood boy in prison for liberals.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

I just hope that the cattle prod is poking up one orifice and out the one with a tongue in it.

There’s your Miranda rights.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

great, now they’ll move him out here to the Colorado Super Max so he can commiserate with the Blind Sheik. At least they’ll get plenty of weed to smoke.

kirkill on April 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Cooperating? So now the kid wants to live? Hope he has something good to say.

kim roy on April 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Yes, ma’am. His t-shirt sales will be right up there with Che.

kingsjester on April 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

I don’t think running over his brother killed him. It just dragged him down the street. He died of cardiac tamponade, caused by gunfire/shrapnel. IOW, it damaged his heart, causing it to bleed within the heart muscle layers, preventing it from beating.

That is why there was that big hole in his side. The docs cut him open to try to aspirate with a needle blood from the heart muscle.

So, I say execute him.

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Man don’t we wish Bush’s team was in charge right now…

DanMan on April 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Ladies and gentlemen , your 2016 Democratic convention keynote speaker!

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

So this is why Eric Holder decided to stick around for a second term…

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

The High-Value Detainee Interrogation Team will be grilling politely asking him questions.

Edited for clarity.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM

For the record, all prisons are run on a behavior modification system. Even in ADMAX, they earn privileges and can eventually be transferred to less restrictive prisons where they can have jobs, etc.

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Sorry, Allah, but this is a big deal. This is about respect for the Constitution and the rule of law.

Tsarnaev is an American citizen. He was arrested on US soil. He was not on the battlefield firing at soldiers when he was arrested. He was hiding in someone’s boat. Like it or not, he is entitled to the exact same due process, the exact same protections, and the exact same Constitutional rights as any other citizen.

I understand the desire to say that he’s a terrorist and that he gets treated differently. But open that door and you’ve opened the door to tyranny even farther than it has already been opened. Happen to be a bank robber who’s robbed 3 banks in a row? Terrorist. Get a little too boisterous in your support for the tea party? Enemy combatant.

Think we don’t have to be worried about this stuff? We do. Just look at Boston on Friday. The blatant, repetitive violation of the Constitutional rights of every citizen in that city is disgusting. Rand Paul had to stage a filibuster just to get the administration to begrudgingly say that they couldn’t use a drone to execute an American citizen on American soil.

We need to be very worried. And vigilant.

Shump on April 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Very good post.

They already are trying to tie in TEA partiers to terrorism. How about returning vets? Background checks. Doctors asking questions.

We have to remain EXTREMELY vigilant.

kim roy on April 22, 2013 at 3:24 PM

He can’t be an enemy combatant.

He is a US citizen, who committed a crime on US soil.

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Sure he can. Roosevelt tried three of them in military tribunals, along with their five other co-conspirators.

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Tsarnaev cooperating with feds

What is WRONG with these people? When you have an intelligence asset, especially one who is telling you stuff, YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT. First rule of intelligence, don’t tell the enemy what you know.

Mitoch55 on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Ok…so he’s NOT an “enemy combantant”

But WHY ARE WE NOT CHARGING HIM WITH TREASON?!?!?!?

I don’t geet it at all.

LordMaximus on April 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

As much as I hate this maggot, the right brother was kept alive. From what I’ve been reading about the older one, I don’t think he would have been so easy to get talking.

Smoothies on April 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Mitoch55 on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Flushing out foxes?

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:27 PM

He’ll live and become the poor misunderstood boy in prison for liberals.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Great. Now I’ll be seeing new bumper stickers in Portland.

Old: Free Leonard Peltier!

New: Free Dzhokhar Tsarnaev!

portlandon on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

kingsjester on April 22, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Maybe Amanda Carpenter can teach him to write poetry and he can compete with Wesley Cook.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

He’s got a great future ahead of him…just think how many POTUS runs he can generate from his kitchen table. Oh, the books this boy will write.

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Canadian authorities have broken up what is being described as a “major terrorist attack” that may have included targets there and in New York, Fox News has confirmed.

Arrests could be announced as early as Monday afternoon, and sources said charging documents could be filed in federal court in New York. The plot is unrelated to the Boston Marathon attack, sources said. An official says there is no current credible threat to New York City.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/22/canadian-police-announce-arrests-suspects-planning-major-terrorist-attack/#ixzz2RDpeNSEe

petefrt on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Tsarnaev’s motive is still unknown but we all know which way the arrow’s pointing given his dead brother’s radicalism.

Unknown? Really?

Perhaps he was only trying to impress his big brother when he put that big pressure cooker bomb down next to eight and six year old children and walked away. Yeah, that could be it.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Not yet, but when he is introduced to his supermax cellmate spouse, he will be.

He has purty eyes.

cozmo on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

.
Unfortunately, if he is in SuperMax he won’t have a cellmate … or be left unsupervised for any period of time.

Let him be sent to Leavenworth and put in the general population while awaiting execution.

PolAgnostic on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

They can not bring up Treason,,, John Kerry is a Democarat and guilty as sin on his known Treason.

So they will lie.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

“They’ve also got the carjacking victim set to testify him”

I’m sorry..but this still makes me laugh.
It shouldn’t but it does. The COEXIST bumper sticker
on the car. Such Irony.
I wonder if they nw feel differently.

bazil9 on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Maybe Amanda Carpenter can teach him to write poetry and he can compete with Wesley Cook.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I love how all these aholes on deathrow become the shittiest poets.

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

now

bazil9 on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Drone strike for the Joker Zaar ?

burrata on April 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

How much is his free lawyer team going to cost us?Which big NY lawfirm gets this meal ticket?

docflash on April 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

He’ll get 30 years … paroled … write a book … become a Professor at Columbia and teach a 4000 level course on How And Why To Hate America.

He has much to look forward to.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

From FoxNews:

City University of New York Professor Ruth O’Brien complains in an op-ed that “too much force” had been used against Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed by the police.

She writes:

Now we have captured the two terrorists from Chechnya who come from the troubled region that is Muslim, but we cannot understand their motives, not yet. And Obama encourages us to refrain.

Obama, hear our prayers………

Notice it isn’t “the President”, or “President Obama”, or any of the common references for POTUS. No, its simply “Obama”.

I feel a great many things when Obama speaks….encouraged isn’t one of them.

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 3:31 PM

He can’t be an enemy combatant.

He is a US citizen, who committed a crime on US soil.

BobMbx on April 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Sure he can. Roosevelt tried three of them in military tribunals, along with their five other co-conspirators.

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

How’s that ‘military tribunals’ working out?

Gitmo 12 years later and nothing. Try the terrorist in federal prison, send him to prison for life..general population.

Redford on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

I understand the Unibomber is looking for a nice young “wife” that loves bacon.
I hear they are stockpiling vassoline and bacon grease in the Supermaxes in anticipation of their new friend.

Bubba Redneck on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I think PA even dubbed Wesley their Poet Laureate at one time. How can a group of people be so stupid (liberals) and still be tearing this country down brick by brick?

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

What is WRONG with these people? When you have an intelligence asset, especially one who is telling you stuff, YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT. First rule of intelligence, don’t tell the enemy what you know.

Mitoch55 on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

This is damage control. If this kid knows of something very large and any results are made public, the Administration looks lax on national security. It will be more politically profitable to handle any others tied to Tsaraev quietly, and later claim in public there is no connection.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

docflash on April 22, 2013 at 3:30 PM

It won’t be Ben Gurion and Meir

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Tsarnaev is an American citizen.

Shump on April 22, 2013 at 3:17 PM

He is a naturalized citizen, as of 9/11/12.

My admittedly spotty understanding, which could be completely wrong, is that his citizenship can be invalidated if it can be demonstrated that he was plotting the terrorist attack before he was granted his citizenship. That he lied when he gave his oath of citizenship.

I would like to learn more.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM

So….Is the trial gonna be in the Hague?

workingclass artist on April 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM

He doesn’t have a lot of incentive to squeal. Life in high max probably isn’t too appealing to a 19 year old and they can only execute him once. The interrogators are going to have to tug on a few heartstrings, if he’s got any.

a capella on April 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Cindy M.

Liberalism is industrial strength stupid and stupid cannot be fixed, only isolated.

Bubba Redneck on April 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM

He’ll get 30 years … paroled … write a book … become a Professor at Columbia and teach a 4000 level course on How And Why To Hate America.

He has much to look forward to.

He should be much in demand on the university lecture circuit. He might even land a job as an adviser in Barry’s admin.

hawkeye54 on April 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM

It won’t be Ben Gurion and Meir

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Sidebar – My first year of law school, we had to take a Legal Research and Writing course.

The firm name was Screwem, Bilkem & Cheatem.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM

On the enemy combatant thing, oblique context:

Section 349 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1481), as amended, states that U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain SPECIFIED ACTS VOLUNTARILY AND WITH THE INTENTION to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Briefly stated, these acts include:

1. Obtaining naturalization in a foreign state upon one’s own application after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (1) INA);

2. Taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a FOREIGN STATE or ITS POLITICAL SUBDIVISIONS after the age of 18 (Sec. 349 (a) (2) INA);

3. Entering or serving in the armed forces of a FOREIGN STATE engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state (Sec. 349 (a) (3) INA);

4. Accepting employment with a FOREIGN GOVERNMENT after the age of 18 if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) an oath or declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position (Sec. 349 (a) (4) INA);

5. Formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. diplomatic or consular officer outside the United States (sec. 349 (a) (5) INA);

6. Formally renouncing U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (The Department of Homeland Security is responsible for implementing this section of the law) (Sec. 349 (a) (6) INA);

7. CONVICTION for an act of treason (Sec. 349 (a) (7) INA).

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/search?q=enemy+combatant&updated-max=2013-02-17T19:19:00Z&max-results=20&start=2&by-date=false

– That’s all from the point of view of drone attacks on citizens actually standing on foreign soil. There’s no path that way.

Axe on April 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM

For what it is worth: ABC was the first and loudest Friday night to tell the world that the shoot out and chase in Watertown had nothing to do with the Marathon bombing…j/s

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Amen danman

cmsinaz on April 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM

The eight were tried before a Military Commission, comprised of seven U.S. Army officers appointed by President Roosevelt, from July 8, to August 4, 1942. The trial was held in the Department of Justice Building, Washington, D.C. The prosecution was headed by Attorney General Frances Biddle and the Army Judge Advocate General, Major General Myron C. Cramer. Defense counsel included Colonel Kenneth C. Royall (later Secretary of War under President Truman) and Major Lausen H. Stone (son of Harlan Fiske Stone, the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court).

All eight were found guilty and sentenced to death. Attorney General Biddle and J. Edgar Hoover appealed to President Roosevelt to commute the sentences of Dasch and Burger. Dasch received a 30-year sentence, and Burger received a life sentence, both to be served in a federal penitentiary. The remaining six were executed at the District of Columbia Jail on August 8, 1942.

The eight men had been born in Germany and each had lived in the United States for substantial periods. Burger had become a naturalized American in 1933. Haupt had entered the United States as a child, gaining citizenship when his father was naturalized in 1930.

Dasch had joined the German army at the age of 14 and served about 11 month as a clerk during the conclusion of World War I. He enlisted in the U.S. Army in 1927, and received an honorable discharge after a little more than a year of service.

Quirin and Heinck had returned to Germany prior to the outbreak of World War II in Europe, and the six others subsequent to September 11, 1939, and before December 7, 1941, apparently feeling their first loyalty was to the country of their birth.

http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq114-2.htm

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Ladies and gentlemen , your 2016 Democratic convention keynote speaker!

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 22, 2013 at 3:23 PM

Except he’ll be using one of those Stephen Hawking talk boxes.

What?

CurtZHP on April 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM

It would probably eventually complicate him getting tenure as a professor at Columbia….

mouell on April 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Bubba Redneck on April 22, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Yet still managing to take down the country.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Lean hard on the family.
Tell him Mommy’s going to a Russian prison if you do not start singing.
Send her anyways when he’s done.

Bubba Redneck on April 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Example of things Obama and Holder will hide.

Where all the guns came from that these guys had.

They will fake up that they came from gun show parking lot deals.

When in fact they may have been fast and furious guns some islamic one of terror bought in Mexico and brought into the U.S. via the wide open Texas/Mexican border.

They lie, the only known thing for sure they do.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 22, 2013 at 3:38 PM

“Find the enemy who wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they are so sick of the killing that they leave us alone”

“I’m going to plead with you, do not cross us. Because if you do, the survivors will write about what we do here for 10,000 years”

Both by General James Mattis USMC Retired. http://freebeacon.com/the-best-from-mad-dog-mattis/
Amen to that!

Art on April 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Their best weapon in getting him to share intel is the death sentence hanging over his head, which doesn’t depend on EC status.

It’s going to be rather disappointing that we’re giving up a cut and dried capital case just to get information to make up and/or catch up because of the government’s failures in the run up to the attacks.

Dusty on April 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Except he’ll be using one of those Stephen Hawking talk boxes.

What?

CurtZHP on April 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Further evidence of how the benevolent Democrat Party cares for the less-fortunate.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM

portlandon on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Can we call him JarJar Binks, I don’t have to look that up.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Cindy,

Yeah, we need to treat it like plague.
Isolate those infected, say in Mass., and dig a mote around it.
We need motes, around California for starters.

Bubba Redneck on April 22, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Cooperating with Feds? What a nice, young man!

steebo77 on April 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM

If only we had a national gun registry in place…

d1carter on April 22, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Can we call him JarJar Binks, I don’t have to look that up.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM

His name is Zooey Deschanel.

steebo77 on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

“Find the enemy who wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) … ”

Art on April 22, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I call them Democrats, half of their Friends Across The Aisle, and a little over half of the American voters.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Tsarnaev recently became a citizen, taking a fairly strong oath of fealty to the U.S. in doing so. I was unaware that you could cross your fingers while taking that oath and still be a citizen without having to follow those pesky restraints against attacking our people and land.

LarryinLA on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

As much as I hate this maggot, the right brother was kept alive. From what I’ve been reading about the older one, I don’t think he would have been so easy to get talking.

Smoothies on April 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

You’re definitely right there. From everything we’ve heard about Tamelan Tsarnaev from his relatives and friends, the older brother was the radicalized ringleader who probably led Dzhokhar to follow him in crime, and wasn’t afraid to steal a car at gunpoint to escape. Once the older brother was dead, Dzhokhar ran away and was hiding in a boat, too scared to face police. Without his big bro giving him directions, and threatened with the death penalty, he will probably squeal like a stuck pig. He might reveal whether the two brothers acted alone, or were they part of a larger plot…

It will be interesting to find out (from the carjacking victim) what the two brothers were doing during the carjacking–which one was driving, and which one was throwing bombs and grenades at police?

Steve Z on April 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

LarryinLA on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Yep! Some here have been screaming it for days. To get his certificate on September 11, 2012 he had to say the Pledge of Allegiance. Unless, of course, oaths don’t mean anything.

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:46 PM

How is he cooperating? By denying any involvement by others? That may or may not be true. If he is lying, he’s not cooperating.

Blake on April 22, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Finishing up his vegetables with every meal?

slickwillie2001 on April 22, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Except he’ll be using one of those Stephen Hawking talk boxes.

What?

CurtZHP on April 22, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Further evidence of how the benevolent Democrat Party cares for the less-fortunate.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Or they could get Peter Frampton to play guitar through the hole in his neck.

CurtZHP on April 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM

He is a naturalized citizen, as of 9/11/12.

My admittedly spotty understanding, which could be completely wrong, is that his citizenship can be invalidated if it can be demonstrated that he was plotting the terrorist attack before he was granted his citizenship. That he lied when he gave his oath of citizenship.

I would like to learn more.

farsighted on April 22, 2013 at 3:34 PM

I agree with that thought.
Although I think it may be good to say he will not be treated as an enemy combatant, since if he was, it might potentially open Obarky to start making drone strikes on US soil – against anyone else deemed to be an “enemy combatant”. And we already know Obarky and Nappololini consider all conservatives to be potential terrorists.

dentarthurdent on April 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM

I have a feeling this punk would sell out MoMo himself for his Nintendo and a blunt right about now.

Limerick on April 22, 2013 at 3:51 PM

As much as I hate this maggot, the right brother was kept alive. From what I’ve been reading about the older one, I don’t think he would have been so easy to get talking.

Smoothies on April 22, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Well maybe, but I don’t think the kid probably knows anything. I think the older guy had all the contacts and the information. Maybe he trusted his brother with it, but I am betting he didn’t.

The latest theory on why these fine young men did this is head trauma from boxing. I kid you not.

Soon we will have speculation about the need to start watching NFL players and boxers for terrorist tendencies.

Lily on April 22, 2013 at 3:53 PM

steebo77 on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

LOL!

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:53 PM

What is WRONG with these people? When you have an intelligence asset, especially one who is telling you stuff, YOU SHUT UP ABOUT IT. First rule of intelligence, don’t tell the enemy what you know.

Mitoch55 on April 22, 2013 at 3:25 PM

This! Even if he’s singing that they did it all by themselves, give him time to slip up or change his story. Somebody helped these bastards, and we need to nail everyone and everything connected with this.

ElectricPhase on April 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I hope the US blocks the parents from coming to see him…

OmahaConservative on April 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Once they give up the federal death sentence in exchange for his “squealing”, there is no reason for the fed’s to prosecute him on the majority of the charges.

I expect the maiming and killing charges to be left to Massachusetts to prosecute.

In about 30 years, when the Muslin caliphate has taken hold in the U.S., he’ll be walking free.

Carnac on April 22, 2013 at 3:57 PM

His name is Zooey Deschanel.

steebo77 on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

I saw that too.

She was not happy about it.
Story here

nobar on April 22, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Huh. I thought the White House didn’t comment on court cases.

Matticus Finch on April 22, 2013 at 3:58 PM

His name is Zooey Deschanel.

steebo77 on April 22, 2013 at 3:44 PM

I saw that too.

She was not happy about it.
Story here

nobar on April 22, 2013 at 3:57 PM

TOO FUNNY!!
However, I’m not surprised she’s mad.
And I like Zooey (though I don’t know whether she’s a typical Hwood lefty) – very cute, good singer.

dentarthurdent on April 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

I hope the US blocks the parents from coming to see him…

OmahaConservative on April 22, 2013 at 3:56 PM

The US should.
Hussein won’t.

burrata on April 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

The point is that he gave up his US citizenship when he committed an act of war against the US. The bigger issue is that the US population MUST admit that it is in a war with religious extremists and has been for several decades.
Charging Tsarnaev as an EC is only a start and delaying that “start” again will cause more innocent people harm. Think about the big picture, not just about this trial and punishment. He will get what he deserves either way but what about the bigger problem?

growl on April 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

So far, we have some liberal poet writing an ode to this kid, a liberal petition to Obama to set him free because he’s ‘innocent’, and some media nitwit (likely a liberal) praising how ‘beloved’ a captain he was of his HS wrestling team.

Next are sure to come calls for clemency for his ‘cooperation’. All from the Left, of course.

Liam on April 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Anyone else think it is funny that a pressure cooker with some black powder in it is being called a WMD?

I always thought that WMD was reserved for some specific things like Chem & Nuke. Or was every IED and EFP in Iraq a WMD too?

Professor_Chaos on April 22, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Terrorism is qualitatively different from common crime in its political motivation and so people want Tsarnaev to be treated qualitatively differently by the justice system.

What about the presumption of innocence? Tsarnaev isn’t considered guilty of terrorism until he’s been tried and found guilty – in a court, with full due process.

My concern is not for Tsarnaev, it is for the Constitution and the rule of law. Give him his rights, dot all the i’s and cross all the t’s.

Then execute him.

myiq2xu on April 22, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Maybe Amanda Carpenter can teach him to write poetry and he can compete with Wesley Cook.

Cindy Munford on April 22, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Amanda Palmer is a nutbar. Amanda Carpenter is a columnist.

You need to apologize to Amanda Carpenter. I’m guessing you had a brain glitch.

Capitalist Hog on April 22, 2013 at 4:11 PM

The US should.
Hussein won’t.

burrata on April 22, 2013 at 4:01 PM

No need for any more Tsarnaev’s in America, the family has done enough damage…

OmahaConservative on April 22, 2013 at 4:11 PM

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