Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on April 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

In an alternate universe, today’s chat shows are devoted to reporting on the disaster in West, Texas and dissecting Wednesday’s gun-control votes in the Senate. This is not that universe. Expect nearly wall-to-wall coverage of the marathon bombings and the Tsarnaev degenerates with just a bit of those other two topics tossed in. This morning will be useful, at least, in showcasing the media’s first go at explaining How We Should Think about the bombings.

Politico has the line-up, which is filled with current and former intel officials. Chuck Schumer and Lindsey Graham will also be on to pitch amnesty because, after all, today’s a day ending with “y.”


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Feinstein thinks it’s very “important to get the facts”. Okay. Get me the kid’s transcripts from the Latin School and UMass and the junior college- what classes, what professors.

And now she’s tossed in gun control- what weapons we should be allowed. What a piece of sh**.

M240H on April 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Next talking point. Why don’t Islamic terrorists have impulse control?

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

NRA ads?

They were infuriated by NRA ads after Sandy Hook and decided to show their objection to the violence tacitly encouraged by the NRA… with a show of ironic protest violence?

I say we blame the NRA, now!

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Dianne Feinstein just remarked to Chris Wallace how “wonderful it is the way the nation comes together” at times of crisis like the Boston Marathon bombing.

I’m pretty sure the entire county heard me scream “F**k you!” at my TV.

M240H on April 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Feinstein – - Backpfeifengesicht

davidk on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Isn’t that one of the Muslim Brotherhood’s manifesto goals–to ultimately control media messaging in the US? It’s pretty easy when you have friends in very lofty places steeped in far-left ideology and anti-Americanism. Just like the underground communists/socialists. Similar goal. Mostly accomplished.

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Yeah I guess we should start look at the MSM as the enemy. sad really

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

I say we blame the NRA, now!

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

lol funny thing is I could see the liberals try that one for a spin.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

START?

Cleombrotus on April 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Just like the underground communists/socialists. Similar goal. Mostly accomplished.

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Which are now portrayed as victims instead of the scum they were.

Blake on April 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:15 AM

I would put red hot needles in my eyes before I would watch Candy and CNN.

Why?

At least the cell damage wouldn’t reach my brain.

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Breitbart has a link reminding us all that the FBI (Obama) purged all references of Islamic Terror from their training manuals.

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2013/04/20/Flashback-FBI-Training-Manual-Purged-References-To-Islamic-Terror

JellyToast on April 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I say we blame the NRA, now!

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

lol funny thing is I could see the liberals try that one for a spin.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:23 AM

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=thread&address=10022240365

davidk on April 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:25 AM

lol

the other news shows don’t start for another half hour…

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Charles Ramsey? Former DC Clueless Police Chief who kept insisting “It’s a white box truck!” as a shooting platform for the DC snipers when it was a Buick sedan with a shooting port in the trunk? That Charles Ramsey needs to stay where ever with his mouth shut. What a Dope.

ExpressoBold on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

More on the murdered “best friend” here and here.

IrishEi on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The CYA is strong this morning. As we all knew everything was handled perfectly. I had to turn off FOX. Philip Mudd (former FBI) is on full whitewash mode.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

JellyToast on April 21, 2013 at 9:26 AM

you won’t hear this on the lsm, thats for sure…

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Dianne Feinstein just remarked to Chris Wallace how “wonderful it is the way the nation comes together” at times of crisis like the Boston Marathon bombing.

I’m pretty sure the entire county heard me scream “F**k you!” at my TV.

M240H on April 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

So DiFi is calling for more violence to “help the nation come together”?

helluva argument….

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:28 AM

START?

Cleombrotus on April 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Beat me to it.

The Dem-Leftie-Lib-MSM-Socialist academia complex is the enemy. And they view “right-wing Tea Party” types as their enemy. As illustrated by the speculation and finger-pointing-fest they started within an hour of the attacks.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 9:29 AM

schumer actually saying there are questions for the fbi to answer
candy defending fbi, they have to flag a person forever???

wow

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:30 AM

schumer actually saying there are questions for the fbi to answer
candy defending fbi, they have to flag a person forever???

wow

she’s bringing up enemy combatant with lindsey

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM

ooopsie..

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:31 AM

START?

Cleombrotus on April 21, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Well I’ve viewed then as enemies of conservatives for a long time but now its they are the enemy of the country.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

CNN ran an hour-long documentary last re Boston Bombing. Not ONE mention of the word ‘Muslim’, or jihad. They did mention something vague about fighting for independence from meany, tyrannical Russia. They deliberately blacked out mention of the other freedom fighters in the geographical area known as jihadists. They did this–very appallingly–while showing graphic imagery of bloody victims and stills of their anguish, pain and horror. They profiled several heroes in poignant segments, but ultimately did them and the dead a great disservice by censoring the root cause of the evil that shattered their lives. They also made sure to repeatedly highlight comments of relatives claiming its a government set-up, but not any of the uncle who said it all started in the local mosque, which the media need to start investigating with their fantastic sleuthing skills.

CNN is a f*cking piece of progressive sh*t.

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

carl levin pushing they acted alone meme,

delusional

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Good thing we don’t have “No Confidence Votes” in this country.

Sleep well, America, your government is protecting you.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 71% of Likely U.S. Voters believe it is at least somewhat likely that there will be another terrorist attack in the United States in the next year.

Source: http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/general_politics/april_2013/only_11_think_u_s_can_ever_be_totally_safe_from_terrorism

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

aaarrrrggghhhh

nothing to see here…

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

I wonder if the bombs went off in DC would the congresscritters be so quick to try to hide the the true motives of the bombers.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:34 AM

He had a channel on YouTube opened in August 2012 and five months ago created a playlist dedicated to terrorism.

Named simply ‘Terrorists,’ the playlist included a pair of videos, which are now no longer available.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311686/Tamerlan-Tsarnaev-Manipulated-younger-sibling-flipped-American-friend-Brendan-Mess-throat-slit-unsolved-murder.html#ixzz2R6XLMBfW

Okay. A little tip for you guys in the massive intelligence infrastructure of the FBI/JCTC/CIA etc….If someone happens to create a playlist titled “terrorists” in their youtube account. You may want to keep a close(r) eye on them. Just a tip fellers, not telling you guys how to do your job, but these little subtle hints might be a clue that this guy could do something. Now we know he doesn’t fit the preferred profile of a flag-waving anti tax honky patriot, but, let’s try to do a better job on this, mmkay?????

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Islamic terrorist blow up Boston and the MSM is asking why? Is this really how far the pravda media has fallen? Do they really not see the danger on our doorstep? do the liberals simply want the Islamists to win this war?

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 9:05 AM

They look at Islamists and see two things;

1. They hate this evil Western imperialist world (that refuses to bow down to me and acknowledge my innate superiority) as much as I do. They are therefore good guys.

2. They are powerful and scary, but also stupid. If I help them win, after their Triumph, they will of course recognize my innate superiority and beg me to run the Brave New World. They will be my adoring acolytes forever, and I will be the Absolute Ruler I deserve to be!!

Yes, these are two beliefs that are totally at variance with reality. That doesn’t stop our “enlightened elite’” from believing that they are true.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

CNN ran an hour-long documentary last re Boston Bombing. Not ONE mention of the word ‘Muslim’, or jihad. They did mention something vague about fighting for independence from meany, tyrannical Russia. They deliberately blacked out mention of the other freedom fighters in the geographical area known as jihadists.

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

So basically it was propaganda.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Dianne Feinstein

…and she is on…why?
…I want to hear from Andre Carson of Indiana and Keith Ellison of Minnesota!

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:35 AM

+1

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:36 AM

RepubChica on April 21, 2013 at 9:32 AM

You are good!

My right wing, reactionary friend is always noticing things like that about CNN. He is a captive audience at airports and etc. and goes nuts as he watches the audience soak it in or even nod in agreement.

I know really other, really bright people who never even notice.

I mean that —- never.

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Headline: Caught on video: Grenade barrage that stunned Boston bomber into submission as doctors reveal that he has a throat wound and is still unable to speak to FBI investigators…

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/ushome/index.html

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 8:48 AM

wow. Its interesting to see what the FBI and police can do when they put their minds toward it. I wonder if they could find the pack of dudes that demolished Benghazi????

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM

The all important WH narrative or something…

“No Mention of Radical Islam in Obama’s Post-Arrest Speech

But the Obama administration consistently seems to be either oblivious to or dismissive of the threat of global Jihad. And while Obama has rightfully warned Americans not to make judgments without evidence, Obama has too often ignored evidence of radical Islam’s influence.

For instance, the Obama administration refused to call the Fort Hood massacre an act of terror, instead referring to it as “workplace violence.” He also took three days to address the nation after the attempted Christmas Day airplane bombing in 2009…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/20/Obama-Laying-Foundation-to-Deemphasize-Potential-Radical-Islam-Ties-of-Boston-Bombers

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

it was a love fest between chuckie and lindsey on immigration…

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Let it be known that the massive billions spent on anti terrorism/counter terrorism completely missed a guy who stopped just short of buying a billboard stating ‘I AM A TERRORIST AND WILL BLOW YOU UP’ ….

nice work fellas, so, exactly who is on your radar these days if this crackpot wasn’t??????

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

if ft hood was ‘workplace violence, is boston ‘exercise-related accidentry’ ? I mean, similar to an ankle sprain or a case of shin splints while running????

semantics

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Under FBI DIOG and U.S. Attorney General guidelines, there are strict prohibitions about running open-ended investigations into American citizens, or those legally in the United States, in the absence of a clear indicator of criminal activity or association with terrorism.

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End game for Boston bomber suspect

A request from a foreign government to open an investigation into an American citizen is a “fairly routine affair,” according to Miller, who added, “The FBI sends leads to the FSB, the Russian Federal Security Service, involving cases where we have an interest.”

I got this from a CBS report from the net.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57580580/did-the-fbi-miss-a-chance-to-stop-tamerlan-tsarnaev/

Basically under the DIOG protocols the the FBI works under they are severely restricted in determining whether or not someone is a terrorist. They are given only so much time so much leeway in looking into a persons past.
It’s all BS with the result being to let as many terror types into the country as possible the net result such as 26 year old Tamerlan with all kinds of warnings from other countries(Russia?) is allowed back into the states and we know the result.

rodguy911 on April 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM

nice work fellas, so, exactly who is on your radar these days if this crackpot wasn’t??????

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Philip Mudd(FBI) on FOX: “If we just look at one guy we might miss 10,000.”

Well that makes me feel better. Idiots.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 9:45 AM

is boston ‘exercise-related accidentry’ ?

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Man-caused disaster.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 9:46 AM

When I am called to prayer this evening, I am going to thank God that those two in Massachusetts didn’t have AR-15s or Tea Party hats.

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

give the older brother some slack, he felt alienated
-candy

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Sorry for the repost, but since no one commented on this I’m curious if it’s because it was missed at the end of the page or if it has already been debunked.

Good God, this thing has tentacles everywhere. From a Boston Globe Article:

Gym owner Allan said that Tamerlan had once introduced him to an American, Brendan Mess, whom Tamerlan described as his best friend.

Two years ago, Mess and two other men were brutally killed in a Waltham apartment where they were found by police with their throats slit and their bodies covered with marijuana. The murders remain unsolved.

Tsarnaev hadn’t been to Allan’s Wai Kru Mixed Martial Arts center in years, instead going to another nearby boxing gym.

Until this month.

Read the whole thing. (The Daily Mail is on this too; I’ll try to find a link.)

IrishEi on April 21, 2013 at 9:18 AM

IrishEi on April 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

I see where Glen beck is giving Obama till Monday to admit this entire thing was an inside job, and claims to have hard evidence…

I’d scowl normally, but there’s that fast and furious thing and a need for 2014 and a third term in 2016…

We’ll see Monday…

Don L on April 21, 2013 at 8:37 AM

.
I too am going to be listening in Monday when Beck releases what he has. My guess is its all about the Saudis,possibly the ones that moochhelle visited earlier in the week who are due to be released and sent back soon.
Very possible they wee behind the entire thing and beck has the skinny on them.
Supposedly his sources are beyond reproach and the info hard.
Could be good.

rodguy911 on April 21, 2013 at 9:13 AM

.
Everyone will be ……… Monday’s broadcast will be the most listened to broadcast, Glenn has ever done.

Wouldn’t be surprised if one of the Cable News Networks or CSPAN “JIP” it.

listens2glenn on April 21, 2013 at 9:48 AM

…those two in Massachusetts didn’t have AR-15s …

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:47 AM

If they had used any of the scary looking guns that scare Diane Feinstein so badly she wets herself when she sees them I assume we would have heard about it by now.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 9:50 AM

‘exercise-related accidentry’
ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:43 AM

That is better than anything I thought of.

I keep checking The Food Channel for reports on pressure cooker terror, deep fryer fanatics, and waiting for them to note the idea that TEA POTS have pressurized steam, too.

We might even blame the Brits if we try hard enough.

IlikedAUH2O on April 21, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Jane, you ignorant slut …

ExpressoBold on April 21, 2013 at 9:56 AM

“Federal public defenders have agreed to represent the suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings.

Miriam Conrad, the federal defender for Massachusetts, says her office expects to represent Dzhokhar Tsarnaev after he is charged.

Conrad says she believes Dzhokhar should have a lawyer appointed as soon as possible because there are “serious issues regarding possible interrogation.”

U.S. officials said a special interrogation team for high-value suspects would question him without reading him his Miranda rights, under a public safety exception that exists to protect police and the public from immediate danger. Miranda rights include the right to remain silent and the right to have a lawyer…”

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/20/public-defenders-will-represent-boston-bombing-sus/?utm_source=RSS_Feed&utm_medium=RSS#ixzz2R6eJ4MFV
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

I’ve had This Week on.

During the panel discussion (Sen. Coates (R-IN), some dopey rep (D-MS), Martha Raddich, Richard Haas (perenial Morning Joe guest), and the editor of The New Yorker.

The subject of immigration reform came up with Stephie referring to Grassley’s point about slowing things down. Coates agreed. The rep said he trusted the government to move things forward–I had to go puke. But the New Yorker editor and Haas insisted that there should be no slowdown and, instead, there should be an acceleration because the faster we get disaffected youth assimilated, the faster we can reduce the likelihood of terrorism.

Isn’t that akin to negotiating with terrorists?

Anyway, I think the GOP should be going for the jugular to demand that illegal immigrants be thoroughly vetted and deported for all but the most minor thing. I don’t care. Why let a crisis go to waste?

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

For all the questions and theories there is just one answer. There has always been just one answer and there will always be just one answer. Islam. But that must be avoided at all costs including how ever many unfortunate American people must die to keep it secret. There is a natural partisan view at HA that it is the left, Bark, the LSM etc. That’s all true and it is also true that conservatives, Republicans are also bought, compromised and subverted by agents of Islam. Every influencial American who has a sweet business connection with some wealthy Muslim private individual and every American business that has a sweet link to some oil tick sovereign wealth fund is responsible. They are the ones who squash and suppress the truth. America is rotten stem to stern with influential Americans beholden to Muslim money. Unless the are rooted out, you are done. Will they be rooted out? Of course not, so you are done.

BL@KBIRD on April 21, 2013 at 10:04 AM

[T]he faster we get disaffected youth assimilated, the faster we can reduce the likelihood of terrorism.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

What a load of crap. How does he propose we’re going to “get” them assimilated? I don’t imagine he elaborated or was challenged on that assertion. The bombers were here for about ten years, and apparently only became “disaffected” during that time.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Incredible…

“The Globe reports: “Islam might have had secondary role in Boston attacks”

Roger Simon comments regarding the Marathon bombers:

[W]e have the worst possible president to deal with the situation. And even after an event as heinous as Boston, he is supported by a media desperate to preserve his narrative at all costs. It’s already started. On Saturday the Boston Globe published an article titled — I kid you not — “Islam might have had secondary role in Boston attacks.” (Don’t look for what might have the primary role. You won’t find it.) That stupefying essay is a harbinger of what’s to come as soon as the atmosphere dies down, perhaps as soon as next week.

The Globe story is by Lisa Wangsness. It is a classic of its kind. Here it is one more time: “Islam might have had secondary role in Boston attacks.”

It’s all so complex, of course.

As Wangsness puts it, “family, neighbors, friends, and social media sources painted a complex picture of the brothers’ religiosity.”

Wangsness goes so far as to identify a Boston mosque the Tsarnaevs didn’t attend: “Neither suspect has been to Yusuf Mosque, nor would any such individuals be welcome here,” said Imam Ibrahim ­Rahim, leader of the mosque in Brighton. “Our hearts and prayers remain with the victims, the wounded, and their families.”

Well, did they attend a mosque? What mosque did they attend? What do worshipers at the mosque remember about them? Wangsness doesn’t go there.

The Los Angeles Times reports that that Tsarnaevs attended services at the Islamic Center of Boston mosque in Cambridge near their apartment. The Times had no difficulty in finding members who recalled them:

At the Cambridge mosque near where the bombing suspects lived, two worshipers who showed up for Saturday’s prayer service recalled seeing both men.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev was thrown out of the mosque — the Islamic Society of Boston Cultural Center — about three months ago, after he stood up and shouted at the imam during a Friday prayer service, they said. The imam had held up slain civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr. as an example of a man to emulate, recalled one worshiper who would give his name only as Muhammad.

Enraged, Tamerlan stood up and began shouting, Muhammad said.

“You cannot mention this guy because he’s not a Muslim!” Muhammad recalled Tamerlan shouting, shocking others in attendance.

“He’s crazy to me,” Muhammad said. “He had an anger inside.… I can’t explain what was in his mind.”

Tamerlan was then kicked out of the prayer service for his outburst, Muhammad recalled. “You can’t do that,” Muhammad said of shouting at the imam.

Still, Tamerlan returned to Friday prayer services and had no further outbursts, Muhammad said.

It’s all so complex….”

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/04/the-globe-reports-islam-might-have-had-secondary-role-in-boston-attacks.php?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+powerlineblog%2Flivefeed+%28Power+Line%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:08 AM

But the New Yorker editor and Haas insisted that there should be no slowdown and, instead, there should be an acceleration because the faster we get disaffected youth assimilated, the faster we can reduce the likelihood of terrorism.

BuckeyeSam on April 21, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Which is exactly why we need even more multi-cultural indoctrination and postmodern reductionist criticism of US history and Western Civilization in our public schools than we have now.

Oh, wait.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:13 AM

American pot is so much stronger than Chechen pot, that’s what caused this “event”!

(Look at the corroborating violence at the Pot Day Rally in Colorado!)

We must restrict high capacity THC in our American marijuana.

Otherwise all immigrants could end up blowing things up.

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Aye, more heartache for the REB and his proggies. Not TEA Party types, not skinheads, not neo-Nazis:

Two Shot at Denver’s Civic Center 4/20 Pot Rally

They described the first suspect as a black man who is about 6 feet tall and weighs around 180 pounds. He was wearing a gray hooded sweatshirt, black pants and a Carolina blue baseball cap. The second suspect was described as a black man wearing a black-and-white checkered shirt.

I wonder if states that are legalizing pot consider that they are throwing a criminal element out of work? Are there job-retraining programs available for pot dealers and smugglers?

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:14 AM

token shill republican (mike lee) covering for the fbi, saying they did a thourough job. thourough job WTF.

Why is his idiot covering Holder’s behind?

renalin on April 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

“They were taken into custody on Friday night but released a short time later. Now two men believed to have have been roommates with the younger Tsarnaev have been arrested again — this time for possible immigration violations.

Evidently, you can drive a vehicle with license plates showing your support for terrorism but God help you if you messed up your immigration paperwork…”

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2013/04/21/dzhokhar-tsarnaevs-friends-arrested-again-immigration-violations/

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Drudge FINALLY has the sleeper cell story up. How sad that he is linking to a BRITISH newspaper to tell AMERICANS there is a terrorist sleeper cell operating in the United States of America. Far as I can see, not a SINGLE American newspaper is covering it. Inconvenient for Dear Leader, you know.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

“hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, until the alarm goes off and hell breaks loose” – WhiteHat on twitter (CBS)

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

nice work fellas, so, exactly who is on your radar these days if this crackpot wasn’t??????

ted c on April 21, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Catholics.
Those sumbitches are meeting and plotting all over the country today at 8:00AM, 9:00AM, 11:00AM;12:30PM.

justltl on April 21, 2013 at 10:20 AM

Wondering if he can. According to CBS the neck wound is from a botched attempt at suicide by gun in mouth.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Don’t you just hate it when that happens?

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:22 AM

Am reading that Beck’s big news “may” be that the feds had been using the older brother as an agent to infiltrate al qaeda — but he turned. And that the Saudi Mooch visited in the hospital was part of the program, which is why they rushed him out of the country.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

THe JIHADISTS BOMBED US. ISLAMIC TERRORIST BOMBED US. REPORT THE TRUTH MSM.

NOW THERE IS A SLEEPER CELL ACTIVATED. REPORT THE TRUTH AND WARN THE PEOPLE IN BOSTON BEFORE ANOTHER EXPLOSION ROCKS THEIR CITY.

MSM DO YOU JOB INFOM THE PEOPLE OF THE TURTH AND THE WOLF AT THE DOOR.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

… he is linking to a BRITISH newspaper to tell AMERICANS there is a terrorist sleeper cell operating in the United States of America. Far as I can see, not a SINGLE American newspaper is covering it. Inconvenient for Dear Leader, you know.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

I’m sure the MSM has top people keeping an eye on the story, awaiting substantive developments. Just in case something is discovered they think the American people need to know. Like if there is a right-wing Tea Party connection, or something.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Maybe Obama needs to be asked:

Why did you fail Boston and its people?

Or was he busy reading “My Pet Jay-z” in a golf cart ~or going one-on-one with Reggie Love?

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Drudge FINALLY has the sleeper cell story up. How sad that he is linking to a BRITISH newspaper to tell AMERICANS there is a terrorist sleeper cell operating in the United States of America. Far as I can see, not a SINGLE American newspaper is covering it. Inconvenient for Dear Leader, you know.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

The UK Mirror is the only media outlet with the story…so far

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

From the irony department:

And, in their final hours of freedom, they added a cruel bit of mockery to their crimes by carjacking a getaway vehicle with a “Co-exist” bumper sticker. ~Mark Steyn link

Diversity, you’ve got to live it.

Rovin on April 21, 2013 at 9:03 AM

In the carjacker community, a Co-exist bumper sticker translates to “Unarmed Driver”.

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil, until the alarm goes off and hell breaks loose” – WhiteHat on twitter (CBS)

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 10:18 AM

was he talking about the media, the dems, or the terrorists?

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM

In the carjacker community, a Co-exist bumper sticker translates to “Unarmed Driver”.

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:25 AM

In the cambridge Area I would bet you would have trouble finding a car WITHOUT that sticker.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Am reading that Beck’s big news “may” be that the feds had been using the older brother as an agent to infiltrate al qaeda — but he turned. And that the Saudi Mooch visited in the hospital was part of the program, which is why they rushed him out of the country.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

So Beck is playing right into the right-wing Black helicopter conspiracy nut meme the lefties love to promote.

Facepalm.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Lefties are upset…

“Boston bombs: Obama lulled America into false confidence over terror threat
The war on terror cannot be fought at an arm’s length – and the attacks on Boston have brought uncertainty back to American streets, writes Peter Foster…

In his State of the Union address to the American people earlier this year, Barack Obama declared that he was “confident” of achieving “our objective of defeating the core of al-Qaeda”.

Although he acknowledged the need to pursue the “remnants” of the terrorist group and its affiliates, the overall message was clear – al-Qaeda was badly degraded, the tides of war were receding and the US was winning this fight that was no longer even officially a war.

The Boston bombings would appear to present a fundamental challenge to that assessment and once again bring the nagging uncertainty of terrorism back on to the American main street…”

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/10007190/Boston-bombs-Obama-lulled-America-into-false-confidence-over-terror-threat.html

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:29 AM

With Islamic terror back to the top of the news, it makes Shrillery’s candidacy — and her…ummm…”friendship” with Huma — a bit of a problem for her, no?

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:30 AM

Am reading that Beck’s big news “may” be that the feds had been using the older brother as an agent to infiltrate al qaeda — but he turned. And that the Saudi Mooch visited in the hospital was part of the program, which is why they rushed him out of the country.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

So Beck is playing right into the right-wing Black helicopter conspiracy nut meme the lefties love to promote.

Facepalm.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Good thing such a Muslim turncoat never happened before and didn’t get a group of top CIA agents killed.

Oh, wait…

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Anything more on the two Russians stopped in a car near the Canadian border? Haven’t heard anything more since early this week.

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Am reading that Beck’s big news “may” be that the feds had been using the older brother as an agent to infiltrate al qaeda — but he turned. And that the Saudi Mooch visited in the hospital was part of the program, which is why they rushed him out of the country.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 10:23 AM

So Beck is playing right into the right-wing Black helicopter conspiracy nut meme the lefties love to promote.

Facepalm.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:27 AM

So does Beck base this on what the Marathon bombers mother said?

““He (Tamerlan) was controlled by the FBI, like, for three to five years. They knew what my son was doing, they knew what sites on the Internet he was going to. They used to come home, they used to come and talk to me, they used to tell me that, you know, that they are controlling him… They were telling me he is really a leader and they are afraid of him.”

“How could this happen? How could they… They were controlling every step of him. they are telling today that this is a terrorist act. Never ever – this is not true. My two sons are innocent….

My sons would tell me, my sons would never keep it a secret, so I would know. So if anyone who would know it would be me.”

http://www.euronews.com/2013/04/20/mother-of-boston-bombers-says-sons-were-set-up-by-fbi/

*desk meet forehead*

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The CYA is strong this morning. As we all knew everything was handled perfectly. I had to turn off FOX. Philip Mudd (former FBI) is on full whitewash mode.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

He said this is more Columbine than terrorism. Before they caught the guys and we learned more about their background, I thought that too. But now … duh!

The mental block is 2 guys who, inspired by what Islam is, kill and maim in the name of Islam. And somehow that’s not “terrorism” because there wasn’t a third guy in on the plot? That doesn’t make sense. Sure they can be terrorists. Why not?

Paul-Cincy on April 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Beck said his sources were at least 6 Represenatives of Congress and others.

I could see this happenning would explain why the FBI did not immediately think of the target as a person of interest after the bombers. If he is on “our side” why would the FBI think of him as a suspect. Double agents have been around since spys have been playing their games.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Oh, wait…

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Not saying it is not possible.

However, unless Beck has some real hard evidence, and it’s very hard to see how he can at this point in time so soon after the attacks, he is doing what I stated.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:42 AM

The CYA is strong this morning. As we all knew everything was handled perfectly. I had to turn off FOX. Philip Mudd (former FBI) is on full whitewash mode.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 9:27 AM

He said this is more Columbine than terrorism. Before they caught the guys and we learned more about their background, I thought that too. But now … duh!

The mental block is 2 guys who, inspired by what Islam is, kill and maim in the name of Islam. And somehow that’s not “terrorism” because there wasn’t a third guy in on the plot? That doesn’t make sense. Sure they can be terrorists. Why not?

Paul-Cincy on April 21, 2013 at 10:35 AM

So what is the related 12-man cell? Nothing more than the Tsarnaev’s Choom Gang?

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM

However, unless Beck has some real hard evidence, and it’s very hard to see how he can at this point in time so soon after the attacks, he is doing what I stated.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:42 AM

I heard its congressional sources.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

I blame Edgar Allen Poe!

IN 1827 he anonymously published a book of poetry titled “TAMERLANE” by “a Bostonian“.

(Clearly the older brother Tamerlan, a Bostonian, read it and felt compelled to enact a Poe-like morbid event.)

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Once again, it is so instructive how the MSM are handling the actions of Muslim terrorists compared with how they would be reported if the brothers were white Christians.

You have to get to the eighth or ninth paragraph of these stories to even see a mention of Muslim or Islam. The reference is usually completely neutral. Had they been radical right-wingers, “conservative,” “right-wing,” “Christian” mixed in with “fanatic” and “extremist” would dominate the language — perhaps with a word or two about gun control too.

bobs1196 on April 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I heard its congressional sources.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 10:47 AM

“Unnamed” or named and on the record?

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM

So what is the related 12-man cell? Nothing more than the Tsarnaev’s Choom Gang?

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 10:45 AM

I understand the younger was a pothead, and a big Obama supporter. We’ll never hear about it. If he was a big Bush supporter, and an alcoholic, we’d never hear the end of it.

Paul-Cincy on April 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM

If Beck’s theory was true, the feds would have eliminated the kid Friday night.

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM

If the Terrorists had been like me, A Southern Baptist from Mississippi, ol’ Scooter and his minions would have shouted it from the rooftops for the whole world to hear. It’s a matter of faith.

kingsjester on April 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

I understand the younger was a pothead, and a big Obama supporter. We’ll never hear about it.

Paul-Cincy on April 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM

The Daily Caller has it

One bombing suspect loved pot and Obama, the other was married
5:29 PM 04/19/2013

Boston bombing suspect and fugitive Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a “normal pot head” who supported President Obama for re-election last November, according to friends and his Twitter account.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/one-bombing-suspect-loved-pot-and-obama-the-other-was-married/#ixzz2R6sEh0Sn

Paul-Cincy on April 21, 2013 at 10:56 AM

I wonder if the media will give any attention to the radical mosque that the older brother attended, and the fact that the City of Boston actually gave it a subsidy. We are subsidizing our own demise, folks.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/04/19/city-of-boston-gave-subsidy-to-bombing-suspects-radical-mosque/

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Drudge has finally rolled out of bed and is now reporting the 12-man cell, all UK links.

Can’t someone get them subscribed to Journolist? They are so un-PC!

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Unnamed” or named and on the record?

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 10:50 AM

not sure about that. From what he said on friday he had multiple congressional sources on the story. Other than that I don’t know if they were nammed or unnamed

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM

not sure about that. From what he said on friday he had multiple congressional sources on the story. Other than that I don’t know if they were nammed or unnamed

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:08 AM

We’ll know if he’s got anyone on the record if the feds come clean sometime today.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM

If Beck’s theory was true, the feds would have eliminated the kid Friday night.

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Could explain why they didn’t finger him on Monday. thinking black hat was one of ours.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM

We’ll know if he’s got anyone on the record if the feds come clean sometime today.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 11:12 AM

yeah It might be released on pgA28 on the bottom of the page buried in the 4th paragraph of a 5 paragraph story

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Add to the list of losers the college students who laughed and said the photo of the bomber on TV kind of looked like their loser friend, but decided it could not be and did nothing.

And if these two were trusted enough to be part of a sleeper cell, they sure picked the wrong losers. There’s a long list of stupid moves they made after the attacks.

And one more thing, real justice would be if bomber #2 were to wake up from surgery and be able to talk, but told that in order to help him recover his voice they had to remove all his limbs. sorry. but it would be!

scalleywag on April 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

If Beck’s theory was true, the feds would have eliminated the kid Friday night.

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 10:53 AM

Could explain why they didn’t finger him on Monday. thinking black hat was one of ours.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM

I’m not sure I understand. My point….why wouldn’t they have killed white hat in the boat Friday night, given the risk that he could spill the beans, and take everyone down, including the president?

I’ll check out Beck’s theory on Monday, but I learned not to get excited about his bombshells a long time ago.

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM

He’s a rodeo clown.

scalleywag on April 21, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Another topic that won’t be covered, ever again: that abortion doc. You know… what’s-his-name.

Paul_in_NJ on April 21, 2013 at 11:25 AM

“The NY Post and other media outlets are being raked over the coals for releasing a photo of alleged suspects which turned out to be wrong, as I discussed.

It turns out the cops may have been playing the media deliberately to give the real suspects the impression that their identities were not yet known…”

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/04/cops-may-have-played-the-media/

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 11:26 AM

I’ll check out Beck’s theory on Monday, but I learned not to get excited about his bombshells a long time ago.

takeamericabackin10 on April 21, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Ok see your point. As far as Beck I’m in the wait and see camp too. Just repeating what I’ve heard. I could see it either way at this point. The evidence Beck has could be something could be nothing. The Terror cell in Boston would I think make a bigger “picture” more believable.

this whole week has “smelled bad to me” too many “why did they do that now” type of questions?

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Hmmmmm….

” Investigators will doubtless follow the money to see what financial help the Boston Marathon bombers may have received. For some victims of earlier terrorists attacks, the money trail has led them straight into federal court….

The Goldsteins and Sokolows are now part of a group of landmark lawsuits filed in New York federal court. They include 5,000 terror victims globally — several hundred in the U.S. They’re using a novel approach to fight back against the enemy that tore apart their lives: they’re suing international banks that they say supported the terrorists.

The lawsuits allege that Arab Bank, Credit Lyonnais, and two other foreign banks with New York offices were key to an intricate system that moved cash to aid terrorists and their families.

Accounts at Arab Bank allegedly were used to pay cash rewards to families of suicide bombers and other so-called Palestinian “martyrs.” Records show money was supplied by two groups on the U.S. list of foreign terrorist organizations: Hezbollah and Hamas…

The suit alleges that a charity called the Saudi Committee for the Support of the Intifada al-Quds organized millions of dollars in payments from Hamas.”

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-3445_162-57580597/suing-to-stop-terror-funding/?tag=socsh

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 11:31 AM

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