More arrests in Boston bombing case? Update: KDKA report confirming Mirror account?

posted at 11:31 am on April 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The death of one suspected bomber and the capture of the other on Friday in the Boston Marathon bombing may not be the end of arrests in the case.  Yesterday afternoon, FBI and DHS agents arrived at the same New Bedford apartment complex where they had detained three people in the Friday manhunt for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, this time taking two away in handcuffs:

Agents wearing FBI and Department of Homeland Security jackets detained two men at the Hidden Brook apartment complex just hours after releasing three people believed to be associated with Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

A neighbor who declined to identify herself said the same two men were among the three people taken into custody by the FBI Friday afternoon.

An FBI spokeswoman could not provide any information on the two men, both of whom were led away in handcuffs around 3:50 p.m. Saturday, or anything related to the apartment, citing the “ongoing” nature of the investigation.

Interestingly, this time the FBI and DHS didn’t come alone.  A consular vehicle from an unidentified  nation also arrived, and transported two women out of the complex after the arrests took place:

Earlier Saturday afternoon, a silver mini-van with consulate license plates arrived at the Carriage Drive apartment along with the FBI and Homeland Security, and stayed a half an hour longer than the agents.

The van left with two women, neither of whom appeared to be restrained. One was carrying a pink backpack as she exited the apartment and ran into the van, which sped away as the women told reporters they did not wish to comment.

We noted the brief detention of two men and a woman on Friday afternoon, but the FBI left after Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was apprehended in Watertown.  The police told the Standard-Times on Friday that the two men were believed to be fellow students at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth.

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror in the UK reports that the FBI is investigating the possibility that the Tsarnaev brothers were part of a “sleeper cell” in the US that could contain a dozen operatives:

The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

“They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come.”

It’s important to keep in mind that the FBI will be investigating all sorts of possibilities in connection to the attack.  The travel pattern of Tamerlan Tsarnaev provides the potential for significant contact with radicals in Dagestan and Chechnya, but those contacts have yet to be established.  Until the FBI and intelligence agencies find those contacts and develop those leads, they will keep all potential theories in play.

Speaking of which, House Intelligence chair Mike Rogers told NBC’s Meet the Press that Tamerlan may have traveled to Russia using an alias:

Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., said on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday that when Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bombing suspect killed Friday in a shootout with police, travelled to Russia in 2012, he may have done so under an alias.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s six-month stay in Russia last year “becomes extremely important” as a key to the investigation of the Boston bombings, Rogers told NBC’s David Gregory. His visit to Russia “would lead one to believe that that’s probably where he got that final radicalization to push him to commit acts of violence and where he may have received training” in terrorist techniques. Rogers, a former FBI agent, said the FBI had questioned Tamerlan Tsarnaev after being given information from a foreign intelligence service “that they were concerned about his possible radicalization.” …

But appearing on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., said Tamerlan Tsarnaev is the kind of person “you don’t want to let out of your sight,” and that it was a mistake for federal authorities to have lost track of him.

“Either our laws are insufficient or the FBI failed, but we’re at war with radical Islamists and we need to up our game,” the South Carolina Republican told CNN.

How did we find out so quickly about Tamerlan’s travels, though, if he traveled under an alias?  Or did the FBI keep closer track of Tsarnaev than Lindsey Graham thinks?

Although Dzhokhar Tsarnaev remains in serious condition, officials plan to charge him in federal court quickly, perhaps as soon as today:

Federal officials hope to bring charges against Dzokhar Tsarnaev as early as today, a Department of Justice official tells CNN’s Pamela Brown.

A law enforcement official tells CNN that Tsarnaev might be arraigned at the hospital. The 19-year-old suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing remains in serious, stable condition, under heavy guard at a Boston hospital. A judge is coming to his bedside.

Once charged in civil criminal court, options for investigators begin to narrow considerably in regard to interrogation.  It’s possible that they have already found what they wanted from the surviving Tsarnaev brother, which may be why FBI, DHS, and a consular van reappeared at the New Bedford apartment complex.

Update: The agents arrived yesterday afternoon, not last night.  I’ve corrected that in the first paragraph.

Update: The New York Daily News has photos of the two men, and report that they have been detained on “immigration violations”:

Two foreign nationals — who are believed to be associates of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers — were arrested Saturday on immigration violations, authorities said.

The men, identified by neighbors as 19-year-olds from Kazakhstan, drove around in a black BMW with the mock license plate, “TERRORISTA #1.”

The pair was hauled out of their New Bedford apartment in handcuffs about 3:50 p.m. The raid was carried out by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, a spokesman told the Daily News.

Immigration violations from Kazakhstan? Those don’t usually require a consular van to collect associates. This is still a fluid situation and this lead may end up being nothing at all, so keep an open mind. The fact that federal investigators returned the next day and diplomatic intervention was required indicates that this is something a little more serious than a visa violation, or at least is suspected of being so.

Update: Bear in mind that this could still be (relatively) unrelated to the bombing.  The FBI may have identified Tsarnaev’s associates and detained them on Friday to get more intel on their fugitive, and then discovered an immigration issue either during or shortly after their interrogation.  Given the nature of the larger case, they may have alerted the consulate to get involved immediately and accelerated the processing of the immigration issue to get them out of the way.  That’s at least a possibility, so again, keep an open mind.

Update: Looks like KDKA has heard what the Mirror reported earlier:

Stay, er, tuned.

Update: Dzhokhar isn’t saying much, at least not verbally:

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators.  Let’s hope that doctors make that happen as soon as possible.

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I for one will be all ears for Beck tomorrow. He sounds like he’s got six Congressmen, Steven Emerson, and some other reliable sources behind him.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM

That was quite a promise he made if the administration doesn’t come clean on that Saudi national. Staying tuned in here too for the big bang tomorrow.

fourdeucer on April 21, 2013 at 12:55 PM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

That should pretty much kill the immigration bill in the Senate.

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Here is a picture of the guy driving the mystery consular van.

BL@KBIRD on April 21, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Jfar…Jhar…Link

Obviously this proves the american indoctrination…

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Would anybody be surprised if Jay Carney cancelled his press briefing tomorrow?

mjbrooks3 on April 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

I know that West, Texas isn’t a crime scene but I don’t think those folk’s sorrow is getting enough attention. Is Neil Diamond going to go sing there?

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

It’s a red state i.e. Tennessee floods.

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Hmmmm…..A few days ago after the release of the video, I said this person had drawn my attention on the released video d/t her actions of ignoring these guys as they passed through her line of vision, and then immediately using her handheld phone to call someone after they’d passed her, possibly signaling someone else that the plan was on course:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators.

He can’t hear? He can’t write? The only way he can communicate is by talking? He wouldn’t be able to nod his head yes or no in response to questions, or lift a finger, or something?

The only way this can happen is if he stays in a coma or dies or has severe brain damage.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM

That what I read also.

Some of the Sunday talking heads didn’t seem up to speed on the facts yet.

[petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM]

Well, maybe we’re not up to speed. The big problem I have is the Tower of Babel aspect to these situations. First off, one has the naturally universal standard that people are not precise in what they say. From there you have people mixing facts vs speculation. Then you have 2nd hand information spreading (sources to reporters) complicated by reporters’ interpretations/biases and quotes vs characterizations. Add all the different professions having their own terminology which is strict for them and casual for us and it becomes one big mess by the time we get to see or hear it.

My problem is that the ‘lost track of’ is not in quotes so it’s iffy whether Graham said it or it’s the reporters lazy/protective characterization. On the other hand, I don’t trust Graham to tell the truth when it comes to his knee-jerk militarization of everything.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

That should pretty much kill the immigration bill in the Senate.

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Wishful thinking. It’s still full speed ahead for these fools. They’ll treat this as a minor incident and say they “need” to pass amnesty to show we aren’t tarring all the good, innocent criminal illegals with the same broad brush.

njrob on April 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Wait…What?

“Glenn Beck threatens the government. Monday should be an interesting day:

Let me send this message very clear. We know who this Saudi National is. And it is in your best interests and the best interests of integrity and trust for the people of the United States of America.
It’s best coming from you, not coming from a news organization.
You have until Monday.
We have information on who this man is. And listen to me carefully. We know that he is a very bad, bad, bad man.
I know that doesn’t make sense to you now, but on Monday it will.
I don’t bluff. I make promises.
The truth matters. I’ve had enough of what you’ve done to our country. I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government.
No. No. There is no depth that these people will not stoop to.
They have until Monday…”

http://www.ihatethemedia.com/glenn-beck-threatens-the-government?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+ihatethemedia+%28I+Hate+the+Media%29&utm_content=Google+Reader

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

KDKA is just reporting what the Mirror already had. Bombs too complex to google and 12 man sleeper cell.

reddevil on April 21, 2013 at 1:03 PM

It’s a red state i.e. Tennessee floods.

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM

The dog eater did comment on the “10,000″ dead from the Joplin Tornado, then made a speech.

tom daschle concerned on April 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM

OK, to see the person you have to run the video to where they had passed the crowd on the sidewalk…………she’s leaning against the wall, with that huge blue nylon bag…

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators. Let’s hope that doctors make that happen as soon as possible.

Tell Menino they’ve invented pencils and paper already.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Dude

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Oh, if anything this whole situation is going to speed up the immigration vote. They’ll want to save Barry face after the gun defeat and before he can get stunk up with any meaningful investigation into these two immigrants, and their relatives.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 1:06 PM

[farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:01 PM]

If Menino used an imbecile as a spokesman to vet his comments first, we’d never hear from Menino.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 1:09 PM

The banner at the top reads, “Do you support tradtional (sic) marriage?”

It’s from Townhall.com. If anyone knows anyone at Townhall, please give them a heads up before there next banner reads “Do you suport the Furst Amindmint?”

Ala Pundit on April 21, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators.

Heh. If youy’ve ever tried to listen to a poorly-executed attempted to speak by Mayor Thomas “Mumbles” Menino, you’d have to wonder if this quote was hizzoner speaking about himself or the Joker? Works either way…

bofh on April 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

LIke the nitwit Boston Globe religion reporters piece today talking about ‘Islam may have been a *secondary* cause of the bombings…”

Yeah. *secondary*.

Midas on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

yeap its like they are more afraid of the truth then of the bombers. Sad really. when the country collapses we will all know why. Unable/unwilling to name the enemy.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Immigration violations?!?!

Comment from Geraldo Rivera in 5… 4… 3…

Something like: “We don’t have illegal immigrants, we just have bad laws…”

Khun Joe on April 21, 2013 at 1:12 PM

“Glenn Beck…

Let me send this message very clear. We know who this Saudi National is. And it is in your best interests and the best interests of integrity and trust for the people of the United States of America.
It’s best coming from you, not coming from a news organization.
You have until Monday.
We have information on who this man is. And listen to me carefully. We know that he is a very bad, bad, bad man.
I know that doesn’t make sense to you now, but on Monday it will.
I don’t bluff. I make promises.
The truth matters. I’ve had enough of what you’ve done to our country. I thought I had heard and seen it all. I thought I didn’t trust my government.
No. No. There is no depth that these people will not stoop
to…”

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

I’m sorry, but this almost sounds like Michael Moore droning on about about the Saudis secretly whisked out of the country by Chimpy McBushitler and Darth Cheney right after 9/11 and the evil Bush admin’s secret deals with the Saudis.

I hope Beck has something other than “unnamed but highly reliable sources in our government who wish to remain anonymous” to back this up.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

since Russia apparently had eyes on this guy i’m wondering how he got thru their security to fly to Moscow. even though our fbi questioned him and saw no issues I would’ve thought the russkies would’ve kept him on their version of the no-fly list.

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Yeah, I’ll wait for the recap. Listened to Beck back when he was a Dallas show host, funny as heck. Now, never.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 1:16 PM

LIke the nitwit Boston Globe religion reporters piece today talking about ‘Islam may have been a *secondary* cause of the bombings…”

Yeah. *secondary*.

Midas on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

At least he went that far. Surely, it won’t be long till one of his own labels him a right-wing extremist, and he’ll never sin like that again.

Liam on April 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Tell Menino they’ve invented pencils and paper already.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

kids today cant operate a pencil. give him an iphone and unlimited texts and we’ll find out something.

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 1:17 PM

I hope Beck has something other than “unnamed but highly reliable sources in our government who wish to remain anonymous” to back this up.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Beck is usually pretty spot on. I look forward to seeing what he’s got.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Wait….What?

The neck wound apparently did not initially silence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who was swearing profusely in the ambulance ride after his final confrontation with the FBI, according to a source familiar with the case. The Justice Department remained quiet Saturday on whether officials had been able to question Tsarnaev, or whether they would attempt to do so before he consults an attorney…”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-boston-bombings-20130421,0,4816464.story

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM

but al qaeda is dead according to biden and dear leader

egg on face?

nope, the lsm won’t allow that

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:

avagreen on April 21, 2013

Wow, the body shape and hair is basically the same. So interesting. I hope we find out the truth of all this, and not just some false front cover story.

JonPrichard on April 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Maybe Holder will charge the kid for being a knock-off labeled terrorist.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Wait….What?

“The neck wound apparently did not initially silence Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, 19, who was swearing profusely in the ambulance ride after his final confrontation with the FBI, according to a source familiar with the case. The Justice Department remained quiet Saturday on whether officials had been able to question Tsarnaev, or whether they would attempt to do so before he consults an attorney…”

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-boston-bombings-20130421,0,4816464.story

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM

What are the odds he already knows he can remain silent and demand an attorney?

Isn’t that covered in the first paragraph of the Jihad For Dummies chapter on what to do after being captured by American infidels?

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Dude

gophergirl on April 21, 2013 at 1:05 PM

I’m sorry, but this almost sounds like Michael Moore droning on about about the Saudis secretly whisked out of the country by Chimpy McBushitler and Darth Cheney right after 9/11 and the evil Bush admin’s secret deals with the Saudis.

I hope Beck has something other than “unnamed but highly reliable sources in our government who wish to remain anonymous” to back this up.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

I don’t listen to Beck…IHTM posted this transcript from the show.

Folks were talkin about it on another thread.

It’s weird…But it’s Beck

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Excellent summary from last night’s QotD

Obama failed to protect the nation.

The FBI failed.

The CIA failed.

The DHS failed.

The Boston Police failed.

And Islam is still the unmentionable root of it all.

profitsbeard on April 21, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Schadenfreude on April 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

if dear leader will allow it

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Schadenfreude on April 21, 2013 at 1:27 PM

+1

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 1:28 PM

Hmmmm…..A few days ago after the release of the video, I said this person had drawn my attention on the released video d/t her actions of ignoring these guys as they passed through her line of vision, and then immediately using her handheld phone to call someone after they’d passed her, possibly signaling someone else that the plan was on course:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I am thinking the same thing. I remembered your comment and the moment I opened the DailyMail article yesterday – I thought of that girl in the video. I went back to the videp and watched it over and over. Also – notice how dark hat turns his face away from her to the street as he passes. In the video she seems shorter and wider. But so do many of the people, I think it is the angle of the video. I would love to know who she is and whether or not she was whisked away in the silver mini van yesterday.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

It’s a shame that you have to read the foreign papers to see what’s happening around here, huh?

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Yes. Big Media in this country is so corrupt and agenda-driven, we have to get basic facts about this case from the British press. It’s pitiful and has become very predictable.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:31 PM

What are the odds he already knows he can remain silent and demand an attorney?

Isn’t that covered in the first paragraph of the Jihad For Dummies chapter on what to do after being captured by American infidels?

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Apparently Breaking Bad was a favorite Teevee show

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:

avagreen on April 21, 2013

Wow, the body shape and hair is basically the same. So interesting. I hope we find out the truth of all this, and not just some false front cover story.

JonPrichard on April 21, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Not just me then…..thanks for the corroboration.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:31 PM

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

The most telling thing to me as how she utterly ignore them both, and then immediately looks at her phone and begins typing.

That would mean at least 4 then: The two bombers, the lookout leaning against the wall, and the person she’s talking to.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Surely, if it is the same girl – they have her cell phone? But, why was she released?

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators.

I doubt Menino will be able to talk to investigators, at least not without a translator.

Aviator on April 21, 2013 at 1:35 PM

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:34 PM

To let her lead them to the others? Wire her? Dunno.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Also – compare her SHOES to the shoes in the vid and the shoes in the DM article. I thought they could be the same.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Newsbusters has a good summary of how the Mayor of Boston and the U.S. establishment press are ignoring stories about possible sleeper cell activity.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/tom-blumer/2013/04/21/boston-mayor-and-ap-ignoring-marathon-bombing-sleeper-cell-reports

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I would love to know who she is and whether or not she was whisked away in the silver mini van yesterday.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I don’t see what you guys are looking at.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Yes, I noticed that, too. Same style, color. She’s wearing leggings in the second photo, but a different color. When your butt is that large you have to find something that fits the derriere.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM

*different color.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:39 PM

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Video – 13 seconds in – girl on left with purple black sweater leaning against wall – after white hate passes – she looks down and texts or something

Mail article – back of girl being led away in cuffs

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

ain’t that the truth

cmsinaz on April 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Here’s an idea! JOURNALISM – TRack down the people in the video for human interest story – if girl can’t be found … ???

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Mail article – back of girl being led away in cuffs

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:40 PM

I see it now. Thanks.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Whoa…

FBI agents raided a West New York apartment building where the sister of the two Boston bombing suspects reportedly lives.
The apartment belongs to Alina Tsarnaeva.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/04/breaking-fbi-raids-alina-tsarnaevas-home-the-boston-bombers-sister-video/

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:42 PM

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Run the video to where the bombers have passed the crowd and see the woman leaning against the wall……
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

AND, then compare to the woman here being taken away in cuffs (below the pics of her car):
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Local link…

WEST NEW YORK, New Jersey (PIX11) – Agents with the Federal Bureau of Investigation have swarmed on a West New York apartment building where the sister of the two Boston bombing suspects reportedly lives.

Authorities have created a perimeter around the area, blocking media from the entering.

Published reports identify her as Alina Tsarnaeva.

In an interview with the Star Ledger, Tsarnaeva said she can’t quite wrap her head around what transpired this week in Massachusetts where her brothers 19-year-old Dzhokhar and 26-year-old Tamerlan Tsarnaev are accused of setting off two bombs during the Boston Marathon, killing 3 and injuring over 170.

“They were great people. I never would have expected it,” she told the New Jersey newspaper, acknowledge . “They are smart – I don’t know what’s gotten into them.”

Alina Tsarnaeva was reportedly cooperating with authorities were on the scene in an effort to gather information from her. She is not considered a suspect, officials said…”

Read more: http://pix11.com/2013/04/19/fbi-swarm-home-of-nj-woman-identified-as-sister-of-bomb-suspects/#ixzz2R7Z5Cbn5

Federal agents took a computer and boxes from the home.

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 1:45 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Thanks.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Hmmmm…..A few days ago after the release of the video, I said this person had drawn my attention on the released video d/t her actions of ignoring these guys as they passed through her line of vision, and then immediately using her handheld phone to call someone after they’d passed her, possibly signaling someone else that the plan was on course:
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/04/18/authorities-have-clear-video-images-two-suspects/YejgNWAcmChcx2lUXigs5I/story.html

Is this the same person? The two look eerily similar:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Boston-latest-Terrorista-1-license-plate-friends-Boston-bomber-arrested-female.html

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I am thinking the same thing. I remembered your comment and the moment I opened the DailyMail article yesterday – I thought of that girl in the video. I went back to the videp and watched it over and over. Also – notice how dark hat turns his face away from her to the street as he passes. In the video she seems shorter and wider. But so do many of the people, I think it is the angle of the video. I would love to know who she is and whether or not she was whisked away in the silver mini van yesterday.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:30 PM

I, too, remembered your comment and also immediately thought of it when the DailyMail article came out. The girl in the video does look a bit heavier, but there is a strong resemblance, and her cell phone call was so perfectly timed with them passing by her in the video. Since the women were whisked away by someone with diplomat plates, we will likely never, ever know what their role here was. Unfortunately, we do not have an opposition party in this country with the willingness to hold this administration accountable.

Rational Thought on April 21, 2013 at 1:47 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Hmm. The woman leaning against the wall sure looks like she was “waiting” for White Hat to pass by.

I have no idea whether that’s her in the Daily Mail video.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Hmm. The woman leaning against the wall sure looks like she was “waiting” for White Hat to pass by.

I have no idea whether that’s her in the Daily Mail video.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM

WTF does that even mean?? what was she doing that was any different than anyone else leaning on a wall that they walked by? and as for the OP thinking she was “signaling” someone, why?? to what end? the two bombers were right there. there is no need to signal anyone else unless you think there were other bombers that didn’t set their bombs.

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I often wonder if there are any true patriots working in these depts, FBI, Homeland Sec, CIA who think “I can’t let this stand” and will tell someone the truth.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

She starts texting something right after white hat walks by. Calm down, it’s just my gut feeling.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Errrmm…to let the head guy know it’s all on time and copacetic. You’ve heard the rumor that more were involved, right? 12, to be exact.

Thank you for your polite reply.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM

I often wonder if there are any true patriots working in these depts, FBI, Homeland Sec, CIA who think “I can’t let this stand” and will tell someone the truth.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Christian_Adams

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 1:59 PM

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

I looked in my graphcis program. She typed ‘Hopefully these guys are Beliebers’

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 2:00 PM

What is a graphcis program?

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:58 PM

lol! like the sarcasm. look encyclopedia brown, call the fbi if you think you cracked the case. putting on an internet chat board is just stupid. this internet sleuthing already has one 17yo kid in fear of leaving his house. leave the investigation to the pros.

She starts texting something right after white hat walks by. Calm down, it’s just my gut feeling.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 1:56 PM

oh your gut tells you its out of the ordinary for someone to check their phone?? in this day and age I imagine people check their phone more often than they think of sex. but you follow that gut and post on the internet for all the ‘net sleuths to be on the lookout for girls in striped shirts. hound her down!

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Beliebers?

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:02 PM

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Careful there, guy. Your cholesterol you’re building up could cause a heart attack.

Errmmmm…….how do you know that the FBI, etc. aren’t trolling these sites for info? After all, they did ask citizens for help. I’m sure they are looking at all the blogs for clues…..national security, ya know?

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:04 PM

oh your gut tells you its out of the ordinary for someone to check their phone?? in this day and age I imagine people check their phone more often than they think of sex. but you follow that gut and post on the internet for all the ‘net sleuths to be on the lookout for girls in striped shirts. hound her down!

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Yeah, my gut and the FACT that the FBI is investigating the possibility that this is a sleeper cell, and has arrested a girl that looks similar in physical build to that girl leaning in the video.

But calm down – we’re just speculating.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:05 PM

When they pass her, that is the signal they are out of the blast zone. She then sets of the bombs with her phone.

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Dollar to donut says you’re right. It’s hard to dismiss it as a lone wolf operation, and persuade the country that terrorism is no longer a threat, when there’s one left alive to talk.

Plus there’s some shady government stuff going on, I think. And if it comes to light, there may be a big stink.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

No bomb making place/facility found by FBI. No residue of bomb making, no parts, nothing. No receipts of buying such materials.

These two were dumb enough to carry out the act, others have built the bombs.

As others, my only surprise was the kid was taken alive and is still alive. While 3 Saudis in question are free to go, no questions asked.

riddick on April 21, 2013 at 2:07 PM

When they pass her, that is the signal they are out of the blast zone. She then sets of the bombs with her phone.

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Well, in the video the two still have their backpacks.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Hmmmmm……

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM

When they pass her, that is the signal they are out of the blast zone. She then sets of the bombs with her phone.

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM

As good a theory as any.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Well, in the video the two still have their backpacks.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

That’s right.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM

When they pass her, that is the signal they are out of the blast zone. She then sets of the bombs with her phone.
oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:06 PM
Well, in the video the two still have their backpacks.
TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Looks like a need to watch he video before I put my tin foil hat one. :-)

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Well, in the video the two still have their backpacks.

TarheelBen
on April 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

That’s right.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Yeah.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:12 PM

So is Obama’s DOJ all of the sudden going to get tough on immigration violations? Gee, he’s not subtle at all is he?

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Maybe it is just an update for their location so that others can be out of the blast site

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Well, in the video the two still have their backpacks.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Also the time on the video is 14:14 (2:14 PM)
The bombs went off around 2:45PM.

Electrongod on April 21, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Looks like a need to watch he video before I put my tin foil hat one. :-)

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:12 PM

One thing that is for sure – others were involved.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Could all be a coincidence. But the first rule of terrorism investigations is that there are no coincidences.

novaculus on April 21, 2013 at 2:18 PM

One thing that is for sure – others were involved.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I’ve thought since the beginning that the brothers were “mules” delivering the packages. We’ll have to wait and see if the FBI finds any evidence that they are the ones who made the bombs.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I can’t get the video to show up—just a blank square. Same thing at other sites when I googled it. Must be my computer. Anyone have any ideas?

IrishEi on April 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Any more on that Saudi cat that’s getting deported?

BallisticBob on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Plus there’s some shady government stuff going on, I think. And if it comes to light, there may be a big stink.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

I agree. And if whitehat talks it will be bad for this admin.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Anyone else wondering why the dude requires intubation and accompanying sedation for those wounds? Seems,..er…convenient. Then, Mumbles the Mayor starts speculating that he may never be able to talk again. I’m not usual a conspiracy fan. Probably wouldn’t have ever wondered about this stuff before Obama and what he’s done to government credibility.

a capella on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

One thing that is for sure – others were involved.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

The probability others were involved is so high that it approaches certainty. All this “acted alone” BS is coming from tools who are politically disinclined and emotionally unprepared to deal with the magnitude of this brutality and terrorism.

novaculus on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

One thing that is for sure – others were involved.
VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I couldn’t agree more. They may or may not have been present at the marathon, but there are others involved. I hope they are not in the US.

oceansidecon on April 21, 2013 at 2:22 PM

IrishEi on April 21, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I have to go off this site to get a video to show up. the ones at the UK Daily Mail I have no problem with.

On some sites, it asks for the instruction to “embed this video”…….which then allows you to see it.

…….don’t know if that helps.

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:23 PM

a capella on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Yep, after a year of stonewalling on Fast and Furious, and then the blatant lies about Benghazi, it’s hard to believe anything these people say.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

riddick on April 21, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Agree on all points.

Rudy Giuliani said it looks like others helped with the operation too.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 2:25 PM

a capella on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Yep, after a year of stonewalling on Fast and Furious, and then the blatant lies about Benghazi, it’s hard to believe anything these people say.

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Not. A. Word.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Any more on that Saudi cat that’s getting deported?

BallisticBob on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Nope, but I’ve heard lots of conflicted information on him. First, that he was being deported, then he wasn’t. I also heard that Michelle Obama visited him in the hospital. Can anybody verify that one?

TarheelBen on April 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM

chasdal on April 21, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Please take your rudeness and go play in your sandbox. We are attempting to carry on an intelligent discussion, in which you are not smart enough to participate.

MustLoveBlogs on April 21, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Best line from the earlier headline thread:

Ruh roh, 12 more lone wolves on the loose.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Anyone else wondering why the dude requires intubation and accompanying sedation for those wounds? Seems,..er…convenient. Then, Mumbles the Mayor starts speculating that he may never be able to talk again. I’m not usual a conspiracy fan. Probably wouldn’t have ever wondered about this stuff before Obama and what he’s done to government credibility.

a capella on April 21, 2013 at 2:21 PM

It seems he tried to shoot himself in the mouth and failed.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/Report-Dzhokhar-Unable-to-Speak-Due-to-Throat-Wound-from-Possible-Suicide-Attempt

avagreen on April 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Breitbart doing live updates…

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/21/live-updates-boston-marathon-investigation

workingclass artist on April 21, 2013 at 2:35 PM

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