More arrests in Boston bombing case? Update: KDKA report confirming Mirror account?

posted at 11:31 am on April 21, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The death of one suspected bomber and the capture of the other on Friday in the Boston Marathon bombing may not be the end of arrests in the case.  Yesterday afternoon, FBI and DHS agents arrived at the same New Bedford apartment complex where they had detained three people in the Friday manhunt for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, this time taking two away in handcuffs:

Agents wearing FBI and Department of Homeland Security jackets detained two men at the Hidden Brook apartment complex just hours after releasing three people believed to be associated with Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

A neighbor who declined to identify herself said the same two men were among the three people taken into custody by the FBI Friday afternoon.

An FBI spokeswoman could not provide any information on the two men, both of whom were led away in handcuffs around 3:50 p.m. Saturday, or anything related to the apartment, citing the “ongoing” nature of the investigation.

Interestingly, this time the FBI and DHS didn’t come alone.  A consular vehicle from an unidentified  nation also arrived, and transported two women out of the complex after the arrests took place:

Earlier Saturday afternoon, a silver mini-van with consulate license plates arrived at the Carriage Drive apartment along with the FBI and Homeland Security, and stayed a half an hour longer than the agents.

The van left with two women, neither of whom appeared to be restrained. One was carrying a pink backpack as she exited the apartment and ran into the van, which sped away as the women told reporters they did not wish to comment.

We noted the brief detention of two men and a woman on Friday afternoon, but the FBI left after Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was apprehended in Watertown.  The police told the Standard-Times on Friday that the two men were believed to be fellow students at the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth.

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror in the UK reports that the FBI is investigating the possibility that the Tsarnaev brothers were part of a “sleeper cell” in the US that could contain a dozen operatives:

The FBI was last night hunting a 12-strong terrorist “sleeper cell” linked to the Boston marathon bomb brothers.

Police believe Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev were specially trained to carry out the devastating attack.

More than 1,000 FBI operatives were last night working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.

A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were not acting alone. The devices used to detonate the two bombs were highly sophisticated and not the kind of thing people learn from Google.

“They were too advanced. Someone gave the brothers the skills and it is now our job to find out just who they were. Agents think the sleeper cell has up to a dozen members and has been waiting several years for their day to come.”

It’s important to keep in mind that the FBI will be investigating all sorts of possibilities in connection to the attack.  The travel pattern of Tamerlan Tsarnaev provides the potential for significant contact with radicals in Dagestan and Chechnya, but those contacts have yet to be established.  Until the FBI and intelligence agencies find those contacts and develop those leads, they will keep all potential theories in play.

Speaking of which, House Intelligence chair Mike Rogers told NBC’s Meet the Press that Tamerlan may have traveled to Russia using an alias:

Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Mich., said on NBC’s Meet the Press Sunday that when Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the Boston Marathon bombing suspect killed Friday in a shootout with police, travelled to Russia in 2012, he may have done so under an alias.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s six-month stay in Russia last year “becomes extremely important” as a key to the investigation of the Boston bombings, Rogers told NBC’s David Gregory. His visit to Russia “would lead one to believe that that’s probably where he got that final radicalization to push him to commit acts of violence and where he may have received training” in terrorist techniques. Rogers, a former FBI agent, said the FBI had questioned Tamerlan Tsarnaev after being given information from a foreign intelligence service “that they were concerned about his possible radicalization.” …

But appearing on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., said Tamerlan Tsarnaev is the kind of person “you don’t want to let out of your sight,” and that it was a mistake for federal authorities to have lost track of him.

“Either our laws are insufficient or the FBI failed, but we’re at war with radical Islamists and we need to up our game,” the South Carolina Republican told CNN.

How did we find out so quickly about Tamerlan’s travels, though, if he traveled under an alias?  Or did the FBI keep closer track of Tsarnaev than Lindsey Graham thinks?

Although Dzhokhar Tsarnaev remains in serious condition, officials plan to charge him in federal court quickly, perhaps as soon as today:

Federal officials hope to bring charges against Dzokhar Tsarnaev as early as today, a Department of Justice official tells CNN’s Pamela Brown.

A law enforcement official tells CNN that Tsarnaev might be arraigned at the hospital. The 19-year-old suspect in the Boston Marathon bombing remains in serious, stable condition, under heavy guard at a Boston hospital. A judge is coming to his bedside.

Once charged in civil criminal court, options for investigators begin to narrow considerably in regard to interrogation.  It’s possible that they have already found what they wanted from the surviving Tsarnaev brother, which may be why FBI, DHS, and a consular van reappeared at the New Bedford apartment complex.

Update: The agents arrived yesterday afternoon, not last night.  I’ve corrected that in the first paragraph.

Update: The New York Daily News has photos of the two men, and report that they have been detained on “immigration violations”:

Two foreign nationals — who are believed to be associates of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers — were arrested Saturday on immigration violations, authorities said.

The men, identified by neighbors as 19-year-olds from Kazakhstan, drove around in a black BMW with the mock license plate, “TERRORISTA #1.”

The pair was hauled out of their New Bedford apartment in handcuffs about 3:50 p.m. The raid was carried out by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, a spokesman told the Daily News.

Immigration violations from Kazakhstan? Those don’t usually require a consular van to collect associates. This is still a fluid situation and this lead may end up being nothing at all, so keep an open mind. The fact that federal investigators returned the next day and diplomatic intervention was required indicates that this is something a little more serious than a visa violation, or at least is suspected of being so.

Update: Bear in mind that this could still be (relatively) unrelated to the bombing.  The FBI may have identified Tsarnaev’s associates and detained them on Friday to get more intel on their fugitive, and then discovered an immigration issue either during or shortly after their interrogation.  Given the nature of the larger case, they may have alerted the consulate to get involved immediately and accelerated the processing of the immigration issue to get them out of the way.  That’s at least a possibility, so again, keep an open mind.

Update: Looks like KDKA has heard what the Mirror reported earlier:

Stay, er, tuned.

Update: Dzhokhar isn’t saying much, at least not verbally:

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators.  Let’s hope that doctors make that happen as soon as possible.

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…they will keep it quiet if it is more people from that religion of peace!

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM

…thinking of BenGhazi and how swiftly they moved there!

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Once charged in civil criminal court, options for investigators begin to narrow considerably in regard to interrogation. It’s possible that they have already found what they wanted from the surviving Tsarnaev brother, which may be why FBI, DHS, and a consular van reappeared at the New Bedford apartment complex.

…they can’t water-board him in the hospital bed?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM

How did we find out so quickly about Tamerlan’s travels, though, if he traveled under an alias? Or did the FBI keep closer track of Tsarnaev than Lindsey Graham thinks?How did we find out so quickly about Tamerlan’s travels, though, if he traveled under an alias? Or did the FBI keep closer track of Tsarnaev than Lindsey Graham thinks?

…Cracker thinks?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

…Who the fluke is Lindsey Graham?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Speaking of which, House Intelligence chair Mike Rogers told NBC’s Meet the Press that Tamerlan may have traveled to Russia using an alias:

Which means someone gave him a good enough fake passport to get through airport security and on the plane, get through Russian customs, and come back again through US customs.

Fake drivers’ licenses are one thing, but how easy is it to get a fake Russian passport (he wasn’t a citizen, like his kid brother)?

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

“Yesterday, Michelle Obama, the wife of the American President, visited the Saudis in the hospital who were injured in the Boston bombing, Abdul Rahman Ali Isa al-Salmi al-Harbi and Noura Khaled Saleh al-Ajaji, to reassure them of their health,” begins the article before explaining the students’ injuries.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/19/saudi-news-site-michelle-obama-visited-saudi-national-in-hospital-on-thursday/

I wonder if this is related.

fourdeucer on April 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

…how many of the other 100+ wounded did Mooch visit?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

But appearing on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., said Tamerlan Tsarnaev is the kind of person “you don’t want to let out of your sight,” and that it was a mistake for federal authorities to have lost track of him.

Hey, Miz Lindsey! Tamerlane came out of those shadows you keep talking about. Doing a wheelie.

katy the mean old lady on April 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

“It was like out of a movie,” said a neighbor who identified herself as Jean. “I wondered how 19-year-olds could afford a BMW.”

From djl30′s link.

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 11:43 AM

One of the “theories” is that the elder terrorist actually was working with the FBI to infiltrate Jihadist camps and somehow “turned” against them. Sounds kind off black helicopterist to me, but with this administration who knows ?

sandee on April 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Meanwhile, the Daily Mirror in the UK reports…

It’s reassuring to see the Daily Mirror report being covered here. Thanks, Ed.

It’s a shame that you have to read the foreign papers to see what’s happening around here, huh?

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Rights or no rights this coward of a kid is going to tell them everything. He was a coward when he put down the bomb, a coward when he ambushed a police officer, a coward when he abandoned his brother in the fire fight, a coward when he tried to commit suicide, and a coward when he meekly put up his hands. Now the question is is whatever he tells the Feds going to be washed so Barry and Holder and the security machine doesn’t get too embarrassed?

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

…how many of the other 100+ wounded did Mooch visit?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

If you were injured, would you really want her to come and “cheer you up”?

Would she check to see if the hospital food had enough veggies or if your friends were sneaking in junk food for your?

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Now the question is is whatever he tells the Feds going to be washed so Barry and Holder and the security machine doesn’t get too embarrassed?

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:45 AM

You have to ask?

sandee on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

It’s a shame that you have to read the foreign papers to see what’s happening around here, huh?

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 11:44 AM

The UK Daily Mail (which has both a UK and US home page), has had daily reports on the Gosnell trial in Philly.

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Interestingly, this time the FBI and DHS didn’t come alone. A consular vehicle from an unidentified nation also arrived, and transported two women out of the complex after the arrests took place:

Earlier Saturday afternoon, a silver mini-van with consulate license plates arrived at the Carriage Drive apartment along with the FBI and Homeland Security, and stayed a half an hour longer than the agents.

The van left with two women, neither of whom appeared to be restrained. One was carrying a pink backpack as she exited the apartment and ran into the van, which sped away as the women told reporters they did not wish to comment

…so who did we hand over to the Russians?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Oh? Like the ones BlackHat did that the FBI didn’t think were important?

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

“overstayed visas,” maybe?

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

The MSM hung Bush out to dry for 9/11. So how long before he’s blamed for the Boston bombings?

GarandFan on April 21, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Boston Mayor Tom Menino says US authorities don’t know if they “will ever be able to question” injured bombings suspect

just now hitting BBC

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

How did we find out so quickly about Tamerlan’s travels, though, if he traveled under an alias?

My question is about how that would work?

I assume he did not have a US passport because he was not a US citizen, though a permanent US resident. But his brother White Hat was a US citizen, as of Sep, 2012 IIRC.

So what ID did he use to leave the US and what ID would he have to have to enter Russia, assuming he did not pass through customs anywhere else along the way?

And what ID did he use to get back into the US?

I do not know how this works, but it seems he would need some very good fake IDs to travel internationally and out of and into the US.

And if he somehow got a fake US passport, how did that happen?

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Since when did this administration care about that?

sandee on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Once charged in civil criminal court, options for investigators begin to narrow considerably in regard to interrogation. It’s possible that they have already found what they wanted from the surviving Tsarnaev brother, which may be why FBI, DHS, and a consular van reappeared at the New Bedford apartment complex.

…they can’t water-board him in the hospital bed?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:37 AM

Unfortunately they don’t tilt the right way. The IV hook would come in handy though.

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

I’m not comfortable with Graham’s “we shouldn’t have let him out of our sight” sentiment. There are probably a thousand “persons of interest” in the Boston area alone. There are too many of these guys to track effectively 24/7. I’m not making excuses for the FBI…no, wait, I am. I know they’ve dropped the ball in the past (several times), but Brother Speedbump wasn’t the only person they had to worry about. There are just too many of them. If the FBI managed to neutralize this guy, then others would have filled the slack. That’s what we’re up against.

joejm65 on April 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Help wanted ad in the Washington Post: Wanted, whitewash painters, competitive pay and benefits, call 1-800-We-dunno.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Interestingly, this time the FBI and DHS didn’t come alone. A consular vehicle from an unidentified nation also arrived, and transported two women out of the complex after the arrests took place

Speaking of disappearing foreign nationals, what’s happening nowadays with the first suspect, the young Saudi national? Are they still planning to spring him, or were they embarrassed into holding on to him for a while?

Glenn Beck, in his report tomorrow, should add grist for the mill.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 11:57 AM

I read somewhere that the arrests were for immigration violations.

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Since when did this administration care about that?

sandee on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

It’s a way to hold them and keep them from running until they can be further investigated.

joejm65 on April 21, 2013 at 11:58 AM

I’m guessing it would not be difficult for an organization like al Qaeda, or some other jihadist group, to mail Tamerlan fake IDs from almost anywhere in the world.

Which would point directly at an international connection.

farsighted on April 21, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Help wanted ad in the Washington Post: Wanted, whitewash painters, competitive pay and benefits, call 1-800-We-dunno.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Snort

katy the mean old lady on April 21, 2013 at 12:00 PM

In case you wondered, it’s the Daily Mail that reported the arrests were for immigration violations. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312123/Two-owners-Terrorista-1-BMW-believed-friends-surviving-Boston-bombing-suspect-taken-custody-second-time.html

Syzygy on April 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Boston Mayor Tom Menino says US authorities don’t know if they “will ever be able to question” injured bombings suspect

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Even if he can’t speak, he can still write, right?

Actually, with some of the speculations floating around, I thought he might “unexpectedly” die.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

…how many of the other 100+ wounded did Mooch visit?

They visited several hospital’s according to this link..
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/18/obamas-visit-boston-marathon-bombing-victims-at-hospitals/

jdivito on April 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

CNN’s not even reporting on these arrests.

CW on April 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Haven’t seen gumby in the last 24 hours or so, coincidence?

Bishop on April 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

fourdeucer on April 21, 2013 at 11:38 AM

“You`ve disappointed me for the last time.” *uses force choke* :)

ThePrez on April 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM

jdivito….bad link.

CW on April 21, 2013 at 12:05 PM

Haven’t seen gumby in the last 24 hours or so, coincidence?

Bishop on April 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Intensive care. Choked on a crow.

katy the mean old lady on April 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Haven’t seen gumby in the last 24 hours or so, coincidence?

Bishop on April 21, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Heh.

-

JDivito…it works.

CW on April 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

CNN’s not even reporting on these arrests.

CW on April 21, 2013 at 12:03 PM

The media is very uninterested in any sort of investigative journalism. I can’t even snark about it because it is so disheartening. I can’t even do the usual “imagine if this was Bush…” They are truly a palace guard.

djl130 on April 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

One would hope, if he regains his brains. I sure hope the first thing he sees when he opens his eyes is the name of Beth Israel Hospital on his wrist band.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Boston Mayor Tom Menino says US authorities don’t know if they “will ever be able to question” injured bombings suspect

just now hitting BBC

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 11:53 A

I know he was shot in the throat, but I would think he could still speak more clearly than Menino.

Aviator on April 21, 2013 at 12:09 PM

The U.N. will probably claim putting him in a Jewish hospital is a war crime.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

The Journolisters have passed the word to go very slowly on reporting anything about the “motivations” of these two fine young students…or any of their friends/contacts.#Benghazi

d1carter on April 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

No no… Scholars say that these were just American boys with easy access to guns acting out on rage inspired by the tea party…

Keep an open mind though..

Skywise on April 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

when he opens his eyes is the name of Beth Israel Hospital on his wrist band.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Almost poetic, isn’t it.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Actually, with some of the speculations floating around, I thought he might “unexpectedly” die.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Don’t count that out. This islamist murderer is bad for barky and his agenda. I’ll bet the barkster is pissed that he was captured and not killed.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Right now the bomber has a respirator tube down his throat, so that may be the reason he can’t talk. As soon as it is not medically necessary, they’ll remove it.

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

…how many of the other 100+ wounded did Mooch visit?

They visited several hospital’s according to this link.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/04/18/obamas-visit-boston-marathon-bombing-victims-at-hospitals/

jdivito on April 21, 2013 at 12:02 PM

To console them or warn them not to talk to Congressional committees or Fox News?

slickwillie2001 on April 21, 2013 at 12:13 PM

More Bill Ayers wannabes? “Yeah, its good to be a gangsta…”

ROCnPhilly on April 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Boston marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev was thrown out of his local mosque for ‘crazy’ behavior after getting involved a ‘shouting match’ with his imam according to one member of the congregation.

Clearly, Tamerlan was a ‘crazy” Muslim … but he deserved to be run over by Dzhokhar, who obviously had come to his senses, for bad mouthing an outstanding brother, who happens to have a federal holiday named after him.

J_Crater on April 21, 2013 at 12:14 PM

When they are done with him Boston should follow the U.S. Navy’s example and dump BlackHat in with the fish.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

…Who the fluke is Lindsey Graham?

KOOLAID2 on April 21, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Some amnesty-pushing squish who’s apparently been taking lessons from Chuck Schumer on how to get your name and mug plastered all over every major story in the media.

Gator Country on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

I know that West, Texas isn’t a crime scene but I don’t think those folk’s sorrow is getting enough attention. Is Neil Diamond going to go sing there?

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:12 PM

Dollar to donut says you’re right. It’s hard to dismiss it as a lone wolf operation, and persuade the country that terrorism is no longer a threat, when there’s one left alive to talk.

Plus there’s some shady government stuff going on, I think. And if it comes to light, there may be a big stink.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Say? Isn’t this Lindsey Graham fellow the guy who wants to indiscriminately open up our borders to unlimited, useless, punks?

pat on April 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

The place is flooded with do-gooders. We get local reports. Yesterday there were more volunteers helping in town than the town had residents. The Red Cross even called for folks to stop sending blankets, cookware, etc as they have more than they can handle. West is getting the Texas TLC. God bless you for asking.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Keep alert people. These guys had support from somewhere.

johnnyU on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

“immigration violations”:

What’s that??
/

Electrongod on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I know that West, Texas isn’t a crime scene but I don’t think those folk’s sorrow is getting enough attention. Is Neil Diamond going to go sing there?

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

No, but John Ondrasik is going to be holding a benefit concert for West tonight.

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/18/awesome-musician-john-ondrasik-holding-benefit-concert-for-west-texas/

Gator Country on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Naturally Curly on April 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Source is highly suspect.

ElectricPhase on April 21, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Did they arrest every mohammedian and shut down their mosques?

Are they ever going to get serious about ridding the west of mohammedianism?

tom daschle concerned on April 21, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Plus there’s some shady government stuff going on, I think. And if it comes to light, there may be a big stink.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:19 PM

I agree. And if whitehat talks it will be bad for this admin.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Say? Isn’t this Lindsey Graham fellow the guy who wants to indiscriminately open up our borders to unlimited, useless, punks?

pat on April 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Yep, and at the same time he wants to give the president unlimited power to order drone strikes on US citizens on US soil. What a great guy, huh?

Gator Country on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

radicals radicals radicals……Please these people were not radicals they were foot soldiers for Jihad against the West.

that’s like saying a marine in Afganistan is a radical to the afgans.

Just stupid reporting call it what it is. We are at war people.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

this lead may end up being nothing at all,

Well, let’s all hope so. Untraceable consular plates can only mean one sacred nation that shall not be named.

I hope it is a group of white Al Qaeda guys myself. That would mean that this had absolutely nothing to do with maligned melanated Mo’Hams or treasured Islam or compromised leadership across the board.

BL@KBIRD on April 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Gator Country on April 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Excellent!

Cindy Munford on April 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:11 PM

This is even better? Israeli doctors treating that scum bag!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/21/israeli-doctors-are-treating-boston-bombing-suspect-new-details-on-his-condition/
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letget on April 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

But appearing on CNN’s State of the Union Sunday, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R- S.C., said Tamerlan Tsarnaev is the kind of person “you don’t want to let out of your sight,” and that it was a mistake for federal authorities to have lost track of him.

Last I read the FBI didn’t lose track of him, they closed the book on him.

Anyway, I wonder if the suggestion Tamerlan traveled with an alias is because he was on the “no fly” list, which I suppose would lead one to assume that they didn’t close the book on him.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

The death of one suspected bomber, by his brother and the location of him/the other, by a locked-down citizen of the USA ..

OldChick on April 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

letget on April 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Sweet!

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I agree. And if whitehat talks it will be bad for this admin.

[VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM]

Well, that will depend on what the authorities he talks to write down.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

It’s possible that they have already found what they wanted from the surviving Tsarnaev brother, which may be why FBI, DHS, and a consular van reappeared at the New Bedford apartment complex.

Is this the same apartment where two Russian-sounding “reporters from the Boston Globe” showed up and let themselves in after the police had been there?

Midas on April 21, 2013 at 12:35 PM

He most likely, will not be able to talk.

tom daschle concerned on April 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Naturally Curly on April 21, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I for one will be all ears for Beck tomorrow. He sounds like he’s got six Congressmen, Steven Emerson, and some other reliable sources behind him.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Just stupid reporting call it what it is. We are at war people.

unseen on April 21, 2013 at 12:25 PM

LIke the nitwit Boston Globe religion reporters piece today talking about ‘Islam may have been a *secondary* cause of the bombings…”

Yeah. *secondary*.

Midas on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Well, that will depend on what the authorities he talks to write down.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

That’s right. Sad for our country that so many folks don’t trust our “leadership” at all. Bush was bad at the end but I believe that he told the truth most of the time.

VegasRick on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Update: Looks like KDKA has heard what the Mirror reported earlier:

KDKA’s in Pittsburgh — is there a western Pennsylvania tie in the case now?

jon1979 on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Say? Isn’t this Lindsey Graham fellow the guy who wants to indiscriminately open up our borders to unlimited, useless, punks?

pat on April 21, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Why yes – yes, I believe that is him.

Midas on April 21, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Last I read the FBI didn’t lose track of him, they closed the book on him.

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

That what I read also.

Some of the Sunday talking heads didn’t seem up to speed on the facts yet.

petefrt on April 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Here is a picture of the guy driving the mystery consular van.

BL@KBIRD on April 21, 2013 at 12:43 PM

This is even better? Israeli doctors treating that scum bag!

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/21/israeli-doctors-are-treating-boston-bombing-suspect-new-details-on-his-condition/
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letget on April 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM

They treat wounded Palis, too. One woman was burned a few years ago in a kitchen accident in the Gaza strip, IIRC, and sent to Israel for expert treatment.

She was coming back in to Israel for a checkup, and they thought she was acting suspiciously. So they put her in a room, and told her to take off her clothes, which female Israeli agents watched on camera. She had on a suicide vest that didn’t work. There is closed circuit video of her frantically pulling the fuse to no avail.

She was convicted of attempted terrorism. She also later was one of the criminals released in exchange for Gilad Shalit.

That’s the difference between the Judeo-Christian ethic and Islamists.

Wethal on April 21, 2013 at 12:43 PM

He most likely, will not be able to talk.

[tom daschle concerned on April 21, 2013 at 12:36 PM]

I read a headline, but didn’t read the article, about that yesterday and assumed they were implying the neck wound.

Is it more than that, like a coma or something, such that providing written responses to questions is out of the question, too?

Dusty on April 21, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Color me skeptical of this… if they were part of a domestic cell, you’d think they’d be able to get away faster and that they would have been able to get some money without carjacking.

The older brother probably is connected with a terrorist group back in his homeland, but the rest of the people they associate with domestically may be into “terrorist chic” but not really organizing anything… I get this hunch based off of the younger ones twitter friends.

ninjapirate on April 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

FBI….in their own words

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

ninjapirate on April 21, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Unless the group thought they were too hot to handle and left them to the wolves.

Limerick on April 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Update: Looks like KDKA has heard what the Mirror reported earlier:
KDKA’s in Pittsburgh — is there a western Pennsylvania tie in the case now?

KDKA is probably just reporting what’s on the dailymirror.

ninjapirate on April 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

KDKA’s in Pittsburgh — is there a western Pennsylvania tie in the case now?

jon1979 on April 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

They’re studying the Hunky angle…

jangle12 on April 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Sane people must consider all this.

Plus, the idiotic laudatory “heros” reaction.

This admin, from top to bottom, dereliction pure!!!

Media, dereliction most all the way.

The world laughs, with good reason, at the weasely inept USA of today.

Schadenfreude on April 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

PC, the FBI, Napolitano, the ineptness of the entire operation, are all on your dole.

You hop up and down and laud this failure?

Put on your thinking hats and open your eyes. You’re being snookered, all around.

Schadenfreude on April 21, 2013 at 12:49 PM

The FBI released photos and video to the world a few days ago asking the public for help identifying them when they apparently already knew who they were. There’s an article on debka.com that the brothers were allegedly double agents who turned on the FBI/CIA, which may explain why the FBI did not apprehend or deport them after being tipped off by the Russians a few years ago, and how he was able to slip away to war torn Dagestan under an alias last year for six months of “holiday.” Their mother made statements to the effect the FBI were in regular contact with them. Th slow drip of daily revelations are starting to come out.

Tripwhipper on April 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Mayor Thomas Menino wondered aloud earlier today whether he’d ever be able to talk with investigators. Let’s hope that doctors make that happen as soon as possible.

Nobody can understand Menino and he’s been reelected mayor of Boston for two decades, so getting information out of Tsarnaev, voice box or not, shouldn’t be that difficult.

jon1979 on April 21, 2013 at 12:51 PM

It’s still all the tea partier’s fault. If they weren’t so violent with their big, scary guns, then these poor poor foreigners that are just trying to live the American dream wouldn’t feel the need to act out in such a way.

Can we please just convict every tea partier and right winger. That will make things right and this will all just go away.

/sarc

njrob on April 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM

He most likely, will not be able to talk.

At least not to his brother, but, he can still text his mom and aunt.

Unlike Martin Richard. Martin, most likely, will not be able to talk or text his now one-legged sister or now one eyed mother.

OldChick on April 21, 2013 at 12:52 PM

They’re studying the Hunky angle…

jangle12 on April 21, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Well if there is a Western PA connection, lets hope that guy who came out of his house in Lawrenceville with the baseball bat to chase those G-20 punks away is still around.

reddevil on April 21, 2013 at 12:54 PM

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