WaPo/ABC poll shows majority believes a gun makes a home safer

posted at 1:01 pm on April 20, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Many words have been written this week about why Barack Obama’s gun-control push failed, but this Washington Post/ABC poll may hold the real key to the puzzle.  A majority of Americans see guns as a way to make homes safer rather than more dangerous, a big change over the last 13 years:

Lost amid the debate is the fact that for the first time a majority of Americans say having a gun in the household makes it a safer place to be, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. By a wide 51 to 29 percent margin, more people say a gun in the house makes it safer rather than more dangerous.

That’s a near complete reversal from a Gallup poll in 2000, when the public split 35 to 51 percent on whether guns make the home safer  or more dangerous.

People with guns in their homes lead the way in touting the safety benefits: 75 percent say they make the house safer, compared with just 30 percent of those with no gun at home who say the same.

And not surprisingly, those beliefs have a big impact on gun-rights and gun-control views:

Those who think guns make the home safer prioritize gun rights over new gun laws by 2 to 1. But for those who think guns make the home more dangerous overwhelmingly prioritize new laws to limit gun violence over protecting gun rights, by 82 to 12 percent.

Take a look at the graphic from the Post at the link to see how the demographics plays.  Those with majorities claiming guns make homes more safe include:

  • independents (54%)
  • households with $50-100K and $100K+ income
  • education levels from “high school or less” (52%), college graduates (52%), and some college (59%)
  • white men (65%) and white women (51%), although oddly no other ethnic/gender data is presented
  • South (61%) and Midwest (52%)

Even the next tier appears to show pluralities or virtual ties among moderates (47%), households earning less than $50K (46%), and the West (46%).  Now take a look at the few demographics with significant gaps favoring “more dangerous::

  • Northeast (38%)
  • Democrats (34%)
  • Post-grads (33%)
  • Liberals (32%)

It’s practically a stereotype.  Basically, it’s the retiring professor played by the always-terrific Richard Jenkins from the film Liberal Arts (which is actually a very good film, by the way).

In order to convince people that (a) guns make them more dangerous, and (b) the intent wasn’t to take away guns that people feel make them safer, a certain level of finesse and empathy would be required. Was that what the gun-control crowd employed on this latest fiasco?  Hardly.  From the President down to the grassroots and especially in the media, gun-rights defenders were vilified, mocked, and demonized, all while the gun-control crowd pushed an agenda that had little to do with the shooting and the victims they repeatedly invoked.  This wasn’t a sales job — it was a lecture, a months-long shout in the face of people who don’t think it’s the guns that commit the crimes.

Nick Gillespie argues that what really took place was that reality triumphed over hysteria:

 1. Criminals – including mass shooters – don’t buy their guns legally.As Jacob Sullum recently pointed out, surveys of inmates found that they overwhelmingly get their guns either illegally or by other means that won’t be affected by any new laws:

Three sources accounted for almost nine out of 10 crime guns: “friends or family” (40 percent), “the street” (38 percent), and theft (10 percent). It is hard to see how any notional background check requirement, even one applying to all private transfers, can reasonably be expected to have a significant impact on these sources. As usual with gun control, the attempt to enforce such a requirement would impose costs and uncertain legal risks on law-abiding gun owners while leaving criminals free to go about their business.

For all the anxiety caused by so-called gun-show loophole, through which private sales at gun shows are not necessarily subject to background checks, just 2 percent of inmates said they got their guns that way.

2. The last assault weapons ban had no clear effect on gun-related violence. A 2004 study for the National Institute of Justice at the Dept. of Justice concluded that the assault weapons ban, which also regulated “large-capacity magazines” (LCMs), that lasted from 1994-2003 did not have an easily observed impact on gun crime. Gun-violence rates did decline over that period, but the researchers wrote, “we cannot clearly credit the ban with any of the nation’s recent drop in gun violence.” That’s because such weapons were rarely used in gun crimes even before the ban. As important, the authors wrote that were an assault weapons ban reinstated, “the ban’s effects on gun violence are likely to be small at best and perhaps too small for reliable measurement.”

3. Gun-related violence and overall violent crime is declining.Tragedies such as the Newtown shooting last December provoke a strong emotional reaction. That’s understandable and we need to pay attention to the fears, anxieties, and pain such horrific events cause. But it’s also imperative that we don’t legislate out of panic of raw emotions – that sort of thing leads to, say, the internment of Japanese-American citizens during World War II and the passage of The Patriot Act.

Well, what about expanded background checks?  Megan McArdle argues that Obama probably could have gotten those, perhaps with NRA support or at least tolerance, had he and his allies refrained from poisoning the pond so thoroughly, convincing gun owners that seizure was the real end game:

Imagine our car dealer posted a price of $40,000 on the car.  Would that get him closer to the full $18,000 he’d ideally like to collect from you?  Hardly.  You’d take one look at that absurd pricetag, decide he was an idiot, and take your business elsewhere.  Similarly, if you kept insisting that you only wanted to pay $2,000 for the car, the salesman would probably quickly decide that you weren’t serious, so it wasn’t worth wasting his time on a negotiation.

Arguably, that’s what happened to gun control.  By spending time on an assault weapons ban, gun controllers hurt themselves in multiple ways.  They energized the NRA’s base, who could probably have been persuaded to live with background checks.  They wasted time, which had a huge cost: gun owners care about gun rights all the time, but the rest of the population mostly cares about gun control in the wake of a high-profile tragedy.  And they made themselves look less like serious negotiators who were willing to come to a compromise that the other side could accept, and more like they were trying to reinstate the kind of gun laws that NRA members had spent two decades beating back.

In other words, by demanding more, they got less.

Asking for the moon in the hopes that you will get the stars is a good strategy only when you’re actually okay with getting nothing at all.  To throw in a bit more negotiating jargon, it matters a lot whether you think your BATNA (best alternative to negotiated agreement) is better than whatever minimum concession the other side is demanding. …

In the negotiation over gun control, the alternative to an agreement was something that gun rights activists liked–no new gun laws–and gun controllers didn’t. That meant the administration started with a weak hand, and moreover, that everyone knew they were starting with a weak hand. They needed to be superbly tactical: move fast, propose a modest agreement that got the public on their side without fanning too much of a frenzy among the NRA’s membership, and get it done. Instead they squandered their post-Newtown momentum on an unwinnable negotiating position, and lost everything.

Actually, I don’t think that the White House had any clue as to the weakness of their hand. This is an administration that has a lot more in common with the professor in Liberal Arts, and a worldview constricted to Academia and the outer markers of OFA.

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Obama hardest hit, the petulant infant.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 1:03 PM

But.

But.

But.

NINETY PERCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111111111oneoneoenoneoenoeoenoenoene~

deepelemblues on April 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

How come the left cheered all that weaponry in Boston in the last few days?

How come a leftie politician in Boston is all of a sudden for the death penalty?

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Actions have consequences.

Events have a mind of their own.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 1:05 PM

“90%!!!”, screamed Oblahblah.

Shiny_Tiara on April 20, 2013 at 1:08 PM

if its properly taken care of, duh!

rob verdi on April 20, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Very amusing little Nazi commenting in the WaPo links; probably nonpartisan using another name. He’s been throwing up debunked study after debunked study, yet when the debunking is called to his attention, he stupidly responds like this:

Any study that disagrees with the gun makers’ sock puppet the NRA and its “studies” will be attacked ferociously. Show me a critique by someone not in the pocket of the gun makers and I’ll look at it. That might make some use of my BA in Sociology.

Calling a study of studies automatically invalid is about as ignorant a statement as I’ve seen in these threads.

Everyone, note that the NRA has labored tirelessly to prevent the CDC and other government bodies from studying gun violence. And we’ll never really know what’s what until or unless we have national gun registration.

So it’s pretty ironic when the NRA puts out its “studies” and expects them to be taken seriously after it has tried so hard to muzzle any opposition, using its political arm, AKA the GOP.

The part I bolded refers to the CDC “study” that this Democrat idiot threw up. What he failed to inform the readers is that the CDC itself got got altering data to make that study arrive at their own predetermined conclusion!

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

They don’t give a shit about the Second Amendment, or about polls.

Show me a Commie … any Commie … period … who wants the People to be armed.

I f’ing, double-dare you.

I’m so f’ing mad about how the political pigs in perpetuity debate OUR rights … and what rights we are WORTHY of, I can hardly see straight.

I can see the political pigs in perpetuity right now, in their suits/pantsuits, so old that half of them can hardly walk, having been in Congress for 40 f’ing years, DEBATING what is best for us.

Not to mention that filthy Communist in the White House.

Their goal is to confiscate every weapon in America.

Polls and rights be damned.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

The part I bolded refers to the CDC “study” that this Democrat idiot threw up. What he failed to inform the readers is that the CDC itself got caught altering data to make that study arrive at their own predetermined conclusion!

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

FIFM

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 1:12 PM

The libs bought into their own propaganda polls that were suppose to be meant for the conservatives to buy into. They dug their own hole.
Surely, they thought, if we think this then everyone else will too.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

To bad up to 80,000 of our fellow citizens are giving up their right to ever own a firearm by participating in Denver’s Pot Day this weekend.

meci on April 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

What I find fascinating is that what stirred up the hornet’s nest of opposition wasn’t so much the NRA as the leftards’ mouths.

Cuomo, Feinstein, some of the idiots in Colorado, Maryland and Connecticut… they all contributed to the rising of the opposition with their comments (and in that western NY case, actions).

The gun-grabbers dropped their masks and we all got to see it.

either orr on April 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

The question I want answered is: Did the NRA have to work for this result?

If they hadn’t of been around, would the result been the same? Do they deserve any credit?

Capt_Nemo on April 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Harry Reid didn’t help their cause when he outright called for a “gun ban” on the Senate floor.

Freudian Slip.

tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Wonder what the eo’s bho is going to sign will have in it on gun control? Wonder if bho/team will be even more he!! bent on trying to get the un gun ban here? That worthless anti-American lying snake will do whatever the think he can get away with? And so far bho has gotten away with GOBS and NO one has stopped him!
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letget on April 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Let’s go to pretend land. Hey nonpartisan can…why cannot I?

Pretend you’re the average criminal(burglar, rapist, whatever).

You can go into house #1 or #2.

House 1 has a sign that says: ” This house protected by Smith and Wesson”

House 2 has a sign that says: “CoExist”

Which house do you enter?

CW on April 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Not a valid poll. It flies in the face of the true and factual 90% who want more gun controls. This is obviously another right-wing lie paid for by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy(TM), NRA, Big Guns, and Big Ammunition!

– The Left

Liam on April 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Looks like people feel schools are safer with guns too : http://news.yahoo.com/newtown-votes-armed-guards-elementary-schools-152326609.html

questionmark on April 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

This is obviously another right-wing lie paid for by the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy(TM), NRA, Big Guns, and Big Ammunition!

– The Left

Liam on April 20, 2013 at 1:21 PM

…which, the left would tell you, the Washington Post is a huge part of. In their minds that fascist right-winger Bob Woodward probably conducted the poll.

jon1979 on April 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

…which, the left would tell you, the Washington Post is a huge part of. In their minds that fascist right-winger Bob Woodward probably conducted the poll.

jon1979 on April 20, 2013 at 1:24 PM

I bet you he did! Everyone knew he was always a closet Conservative!

Liam on April 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Where did the mythical 90% propaganda come from? Just seemed to appear out of the ether.

tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

I always said that if I ran my own little restaurant or something, that, instead of that infuriating gun with a line thru it, I’d have a sign that says “Concealed carry welcome – criminals feel free to guess.”

questionmark on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

Barry asked around the White House.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Where did the mythical 90% propaganda come from? Just seemed to appear out of the ether.

tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

iirc, it came from a quinnipiac poll

nonpartisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

iirc, it came from a quinnipiac poll

nonpartisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

How did that work out for you last week?

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

I know a lot of people who are deeply affected by this particular issue. If there’s one issue that will get them up off the couch to go vote, it’s if they feel their gun rights are threatened. I think most pols also instinctively know this.

TarheelBen on April 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

… but could you imagine the hue and cry if a Republican President sent the FBI to Boston and shutdown the city ?

Michael Moore was about the only Democrat to stay in character yesterday, when he started whining about two teenagers shutting down the city of Boston.

Welcome to Obama’s “police state”

J_Crater on April 20, 2013 at 1:31 PM

Quick, send this poll to the Boy King!

doesn’t he lurve himself some polls, so he can rule by what the American people want?

No? Well, then . . .

Marybeth on April 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

The question I want answered is: Did the NRA have to work for this result?

If they hadn’t of been around, would the result been the same? Do they deserve any credit?

Capt_Nemo on April 20, 2013 at 1:19 PM

When Wayne LaPierre suggested that schools should have armed security guards – the left mocked him mercilessly. But that’s what most Americans agreed with…eliminating soft targets. I was one that joined the NRA during this episode. We do need to support them.

monalisa on April 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Quick, send this poll to the Boy King!

doesn’t he lurve himself some polls, so he can rule by what the American people want?

No? Well, then . . .

Marybeth on April 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Cling … bitterly … religion … guns.

That’s what that Communist thinks about us. That’s what they all think about us.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I’m so sick of polls. They can be manipulated so many ways when you are dealing with issues. These polls are often of the public which doesn’t screen for likely voters, registered voters, citizens or even legal immigrants. The only criteria is that you are over 18 and can speak in English or Spanish. At least election polls you pick a candidate and it is based off voters. Issue polls always contain loaded phrases like “universal background checks” or “earned path to citizenship”.

Wigglesworth on April 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Please, someone, give us the stats of innocent people shot in armed schools vs unarmed schools. I’ll be waiting to eat my humble pie.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Cling … bitterly … religion … guns.

That’s what that Communist thinks about us. That’s what they all think about us.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 20, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I know right…

if hotair is any indication, its shown that conservatives

- are not bitter
- not overly religious
- not clinging to guns

that’s 0 for 3 for our President!

nonpartisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

comment from Newsbusters:

“Obama will tell us to not to blame all Muslims for the acts of a few crazy terrorists… Then he will continue his anti-gun push to blame all US citizens for the acts of a few crazy killers”

JetBlast on April 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

I have seen several snippets saying that Obama may go to the use of Executive Orders…….what impact will that have?

Cindy Munford on April 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Actually, I don’t think that the White House had any clue as to the weakness of their hand. This is an administration that has a lot more in common with the professor in Liberal Arts, and a worldview constricted to Academia and the outer markers of OFA.

I believe that we’ve got one of those professors posting right here on HA.

RickB on April 20, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Have you guys seen this yet?

Mirimichi on April 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Where did the mythical 90% propaganda come from? Just seemed to appear out of the ether.

tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

If you ask people the simple question, “Do you support background checks,” I think 90% will probably say yes.

Where the left was dishonest here was by insinuating that nobody gets a background check at a gun show – which isn’t true – and alleging that nobody gets a background check when they purchase from the internet – which also isn’t true. They also presented a phony number by saying that 40% of all gun sales get no background check.

The bill they voted on was pretty much an attempt to regulate and criminalize private gun transfers. Good luck with that one.

TarheelBen on April 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

The bill they voted on was pretty much an attempt to regulate and criminalize private gun transfers. Good luck with that one.

TarheelBen on April 20, 2013 at 1:48 PM

And sneak in the provision that any doc could just write the words ‘unfit for firearms’ and your goose was cooked. Every single person who used prescription meds to stop smoking used one of the substances that might have the side effect of ‘suicidal thoughts’.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Have you guys seen this yet?

Mirimichi on April 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

That was awesome! ~ROTFL~

Liam on April 20, 2013 at 1:56 PM

Have you guys seen this yet?

Mirimichi on April 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

LOL, a good one…:)

TarheelBen on April 20, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Everyone should check out the closing a chapter thread….when confronted with requests for facts to support his contentions…nonpartisan fled. Telling.

CW on April 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

When Wayne LaPierre suggested that schools should have armed security guards – the left mocked him mercilessly.

monalisa on April 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM

That’s because the Leftists aren’t terribly bright. If they each had more than 2 functioning brain cells left, they would easily remember that their Democrat Man-God, Bill Clinton, suggested the exact same thing after the school massacre that took place in Colorado. He was never mocked mercilessly for his idea.

And remember, this is the very same Democrat President who, 5 years before the Iraq War began, claimed that Saddam had WMDs and was in bed with al Qaeda. He was never mocked for those claims either.

Being a member of the Correct Political Party has its perks. One of them is total unaccountability for one’s actions.

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 2:11 PM

partisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

Still waiting for you to prove to us that flare guns, starter’s pistols, and water guns are solely designed to kill people, and have absolutely no other function.

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 2:13 PM

How come the left cheered all that weaponry in Boston in the last few days?

How come a leftie politician in Boston is all of a sudden for the death penalty?

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 1:04 PM

It’s the same mentality that caused a Clinton staffer, on Bill’s first Inauguration Day, to have a split reaction to the Blue Angels roaring overhead.

First, he had a standard leftist visceral revulsion- Evil Imperialist Military!!

But then, he had a comforting epiphany. “Oh yeah- they’re ours now”.

Progressives hate armed citizens for the same reason they hate the military, cops, and capital punishment- when they are not in power.

They have no problem with weapons, or the death penalty, as long as they get to choose who they are used on.

They have a very serious problem with anyone being able to tell them “no”, and make it stick.

Progressivism is, at heart, an authoritarian mindset- I am smarter than you, I therefore am entitled to tell you how to live, by my precepts, and if you don’t obey me, I will kill you.

It is based on the fulfillment of childlike power fantasies and a refusal to admit basic human fallibility on the part of its true believers. They have to believe in their own perfection, otherwise their carefully-constructed sense of superiority (“I am on a higher moral plane than anyone else in the Universe”) collapses like the house of cards it is. (Eric Hoffer covered this very well in his book titled- what else?- The True Believer.)

This is why the progressives were gaga over the police waving what they would otherwise be screaming about as “assault weapons” in Boston yesterday. Those weapons were in the hands of people the progressives view as their hired underlings, who would be forced to obey their orders. No matter what those orders might be.

If they bothered to check the recent poll taken of police officers across the nation on “gun control”, they might be in for a shock;

http://ddq74coujkv1i.cloudfront.net/p1_gunsurveysummary_2013.pdf

Which is why they will pretend it does not exist.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Where did the mythical 90% propaganda come from? Just seemed to appear out of the ether.
 
tru2tx on April 20, 2013 at 1:27 PM

 
iirc, it came from a quinnipiac poll
 
nonpartisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

 
Or you could admit you don’t know and are just going off of what you’re told.
 
It was a poll of 1200 adults commissioned my MSNBC with 62% of respondents self-identifying as “moderate to very liberal”:
 
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/A_Politics/_Today_Stories_Teases/MJ_Marist%20Poll%20Release_April-2013.pdf
 
Way to combat that low-info voter association that haunts Obama supporters for some reason, btw.
 
(love your work)

rogerb on April 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

This just in: It was 90% of Obama that agreed. Film at 11.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Found this: Obama’s Political Army Target Sen. Ted Cruz’s Office For Direct Protest

The Obama machine has targeted the Dallas office to protest in retaliation of striking down gun control!

Tomorrow 11:30am 10440 N Central Expy, Dallas, TX. 75231

Stand with Ted Cruz!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3010184/posts

From this article it appears that the protest is Sunday 4/21/13, since the date of this post is 4/20/13 @ 11:55AM.

Someone saw this on Facebook.

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Dallas? Well it is a bastion of gimmes but he would have been better off asking Houston to rise up.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

I bet there was alot of people the last few days in the Boston area that wish they were armed. See libs, everything that sounds all touchcy feely and nice sounds, well all touchy feely and nice. That is until you have some crazy SOB that is armed busting into your house that doesn’t really care about all the touchy feely crap you beleive in. Ask the guy who got carjacked by one of the bombers. He had a “coexist” sticker on his Honda. (Shocker I know) The bombers really didn’t believe in “coexisting” and niether do other criminals.

Minnfidel on April 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM

nonpartisan on April 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

You are a partisan liar and fool, libnotfree.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:29 PM

(love your work)

rogerb on April 20, 2013 at 2:18 PM

And I love yours. You, Del, RWM, AZfederalist are national treasures.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:30 PM

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Heh, they are such fools. This will only embolden Ted Cruz. He thrives on it.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

eon on April 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

The last week has been pure political schadenfreude.

Too bad for all the tragedies inflicted on the people of the US.

For the politicians, on both sides, it was a disaster…guns against Obama, immigration against Rubio and his fools.

Events have a mind of their own. People instinctively sense what’s good and bad…even if they are fooled for a time.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Plus, the ricin guy is a Democratic Christian.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM

nobrain, just for you, a Democratic Christian, fool. Scroll down just a tad.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Mirimichi on April 20, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Thanks, that was funny. I love these and look forward to the defeat of the amnesty bill one!
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letget on April 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM

eon on April 20, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Not to forget the pro-innocent-citizens-droning leftist freaks.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:39 PM

But, but the left has been touting that 90% want gun control. Reminds me of that line in the song Industrial Disease by Dire Straits “two guys think they’re Jesus one of them must be wrong”. So which poll is telling the truth? One must be wrong and since Americans can’t agree 90% on anything then I think we know our answer.

neyney on April 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Talk about “An Inconvenient Truth”

dpduq on April 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Dallas? Well it is a bastion of gimmes but he would have been better off asking Houston to rise up.

Limerick on April 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

LOL, a comment: I think the freaks better bring their breakfast, lunch and dinner if they plan to tangle with Cruz.

Bring it to Houston.

IMO, why go to Texas? Cruz spends most of his time in D.C. Cowards:-)

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Call it “An Inconvenient Truth.”

joated on April 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

…gun-rights defenders were vilified, mocked, and demonized, all while the gun-control crowd pushed an agenda that had little to do with the shooting and the victims they repeatedly invoked.

The natural course of The Organizer in Chief. Isolate and demonize just like Alinsky said.

Barry thought he had a pat hand with 20 dead children. Barry never moves unless he’s sure he’s got a slam dunk.

What a great LEADER!

GarandFan on April 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM

dpduq on April 20, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Great minds and all that. Didn’t see yours until after I posted mine.

joated on April 20, 2013 at 2:50 PM

joated on April 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Barry thought he had a pat hand with 20 dead children. Barry never moves unless he’s sure he’s got a slam dunk.

What a great LEADER!

GarandFan on April 20, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Which goes a long way to explaing his evening near breakdown. He held four kings and got beat by four aces.

joated on April 20, 2013 at 2:54 PM

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:21 PM

Heh, they are such fools. This will only embolden Ted Cruz. He thrives on it.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

I know. He’s a fighter and doesn’t mince words either. They should protest their own Dems that voted against it. Read where Obama is going to target those “anti-guncontrol” Senators tho:-)

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Plus, the ricin guy is a Democratic Christian.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Probably a member of OFA too, or a tool of.

bluefox on April 20, 2013 at 2:58 PM

The part I bolded refers to the CDC “study” that this Democrat idiot threw up. What he failed to inform the readers is that the CDC itself got caught altering data to make that study arrive at their own predetermined conclusion!

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

This demonstrates that the CDC is overfunded. Any time an organization or department or bureaucracy strays as far as the CDC has from their simple mission as described by their title, it’s a sign something is amiss. Step one, cut funding; step two, start firing people.

We also didn’t hear a word about them being affected by the sequester, did we? Same for the EPA. Funny that.

slickwillie2001 on April 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM

One thing is certain: Obama is not going to let this go. Reid couldn’t deliver, which I think Obama takes personally.

Imagine if Ocare had been defeated in Congress or knocked down by the Supreme Court. Obama would still be bearing that grudge.

Liam on April 20, 2013 at 3:02 PM

What is the point of this article Ed? An overwhelming majority of Americans want universal background checks for anyone who wants to buy a firearm but that didn’t stop the NRA sponsored senators for, blocking that did it.

A majority of Americans want our politicians to take their hands of Medicare and social security however it appears our one percent owned politicians won’t be obliging to that will they?

And with regards to Obamacare, a majority of Americans wanted the dems to go much further into implementing health care for all however republicans ended up manipulating democrats into creating and passing a half assed Obamacare. Only positive about Obamacare is that it’s better than the “let everyone fend for themselves” bill the republicans were pushing.

Finally, a majority of Americans want our politicians to focus on creating jobs but that hasn’t stopped the fake deficit hawks from hijacking the debate and pushing plans no one will ever support.

So you see Ed, no one gives a d@mn what majority of Americans want. Politicians only give a d@mn what the loud minority who determine primary winners want.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

The majority of Americans Never wanted Obama’care’.

What is your point? Unless you want to point out that you and Obama are huge hypocrits.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Absolutley no disrespect to the BPD intended. I think they did a fantastic job.

But what happened yesterday is the best proof of the absolute RANK STUPIDITY of people who propose more gun control.

Boston on lock down. thousands of cops looking for the bomber. And after the all clear is signalled, a boat owner finds his blood trail.

People should be able to defend themselves.

And Congress should HAVE to read any bill that they vote on. It just borders on negligence.

WryTrvllr on April 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Azzhole

Jobs/economy…and what does your petulant child constantly focus on? Dividing the land. Meh, cry with your bloated lame duck.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

We already have background checks. What the hell are “universal” background checks?

A majority has never wanted ObamaCare.

Republicans have passed several jobs bills but they’re sitting in the Senate gathering dust because Harry “I’m the most corrupt man ever to live” Reid refuses to let them come to the Senate floor.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Obama, as usual, lied to the majority of Americans.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Wow. The age of Obama. Some are finding reality, while some can only deny it and hope. Hope that the world becomes all warm and fuzzy with hope alone with the great visionaries like Barack and his un-proud wife.

ndanielson on April 20, 2013 at 3:18 PM

What is the point of this article Ed? An overwhelming majority of Americans want universal background checks for anyone who wants to buy a firearm but that didn’t stop the NRA sponsored senators for, blocking that did it.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

I’ll wager an even larger majority would like congress actually to have to read the bills before they vote on them, so as they can be held accountable.

But you probably wouldn’t want that, would you?

WryTrvllr on April 20, 2013 at 3:27 PM

hope dies last.
 
sesquipedalian on April 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM

rogerb on April 20, 2013 at 3:29 PM

People should be able to defend themselves.

And Congress should HAVE to read any bill that they vote on. It just borders on negligence.

WryTrvllr on April 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

So the fact that most Americans want everyone to go through a background check in order to buy a firearm means those same Americans don’t want to defend themselves? Sometimes i wonder why i even come here?

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

WryTrvllr on April 20, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Also, too bad the founders didn’t forbid that any in DC s/b forbidden to exempt themselves from any laws they impose on the people. That s/b rule #1.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

We already have background checks. What the hell are “universal” background checks?

A majority has never wanted ObamaCare.

Republicans have passed several jobs bills but they’re sitting in the Senate gathering dust because Harry “I’m the most corrupt man ever to live” Reid refuses to let them come to the Senate floor.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Unless a background check is universal, its not a background check. That is the point.

Unless all states adopt the same gun control measures, there is no gun control measure. All these state gun control measures are only feel good measures. We need these bills federalized. Period.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

So the fact that most Americans want everyone to go through a background check in order to buy a firearm means those same Americans don’t want to defend themselves? Sometimes i wonder why i even come here?

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Most Americans that answer polls apparently have no idea we already do background checks.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Good analysis. Very astute of them to start the effort by smearing gun owners and screaming in our faces. Apparently they missed the clues presented to them by the massive surge in gun sales and gun org membership.

juliesa on April 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Republicans have passed several jobs bills but they’re sitting in the Senate gathering dust because Harry “I’m the most corrupt man ever to live” Reid refuses to let them come to the Senate floor.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Oh and with regards to your republican jobs bill, most Americans do not consider endless tax cuts for the so called job creators jobs bill. Especially when the job seekers are required to pick up the tab for these tax cuts.

Most Americans do not consider slashing social security and medicare a jobs bill. Most Americans d@rm sure to not consider a far right stunt to defund the half assed Obamacare a jobs bill.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Unless a background check is universal, its not a background check. That is the point.

Unless all states adopt the same gun control measures, there is no gun control measure. All these state gun control measures are only feel good measures. We need these bills federalized. Period.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

The current background checks are “federalized”.

Did you know that only law abiding citizens and mentally stable people actually follow the thousands of gun laws already on the books?

Maybe you have some new fangled magic laws that make criminals and crazy people follow them.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Oh and with regards to your republican jobs bill, most Americans do not consider endless tax cuts for the so called job creators jobs bill. Especially when the job seekers are required to pick up the tab for these tax cuts.

Most Americans do not consider slashing social security and medicare a jobs bill. Most Americans d@rm sure to not consider a far right stunt to defund the half assed Obamacare a jobs bill.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Tax cuts cost nothing. Money does not belong to the government. Letting people keep more of what they earn costs the tax payer exactly $0.00.

Plus, it’s obvious you have no idea what the House Repubs passed. The media isn’t going to tell you.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Sometimes i wonder why i even come…

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

…your brain is full of the stuff you suck…HotLips !

KOOLAID2 on April 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Obama raised taxes for his ‘beloved’ middle class. They hate his guts for it.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Unless all states adopt the same gun control measures, there is no gun control measure. All these state gun control measures are only feel good measures. We need these bills federalized. Period.

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

You or Obama have NO right to track what Americans buy, you fool. It’s no different than purchasing anything else, you slave.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

You or Obama have NO right to track what Americans buy, you fool. It’s no different than purchasing anything else, you slave.

Schadenfreude on April 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

HotAirMoron has really been downing the Kool-Aid. I think he’s a Kool-Aidaholic. There is help, but he must want it.

darwin on April 20, 2013 at 3:56 PM

HotAirLib

An overwhelming majority of Americans want you to sing Daisy, so get to screeching, HAL.

xblade on April 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Having a gun likely causes the respondents to feel safer, much like a child’s special blanket does. But there can be no doubt that, as a general matter, it doesn’t actually make them safer (quite the opposite).

righty45 on April 20, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Sometimes i wonder why i even come here?

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

We wonder it all the time.

Barred on April 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM

To bad up to 80,000 of our fellow citizens are giving up their right to ever own a firearm by participating in Denver’s Pot Day this weekend.

meci on April 20, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Just have to say that possession of pot and smoking it is no longer a criminal offense in Colorado (unless the feds nab them), and I would suggest that most of the pot smokers out there today are so left wing they wouldn’t want to own a scary gun anyway.

dentarthurdent on April 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

So the fact that most Americans want everyone to go through a background check in order to buy a firearm means those same Americans don’t want to defend themselves? Sometimes i wonder why i even come here?

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

That debunked poll you keep quoting only asked if people thought background checks were good to have – nothing about “universal” or that “everyone should go through them”.
So you’re lying again – but then that’s pretty standard for libs.

We also wonder why you come here, since you just make stupid and false comments and you always get spanked on them. Apparently you’re some kind of masochist who enjoys being proven wrong constantly.

dentarthurdent on April 20, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I’m shocked, amazed, and surprised.

No, not at the poll… that they released the numbers they got instead of hiding/burying the results and reporting nothing on this topic.

gekkobear on April 20, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Dentathurdent,

You’re wrong about the poll. Please google it.

righty45 on April 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Sometimes i wonder why i even come here?

HotAirLib on April 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Could it possibly be because every time you do we hand you your getalife on a silver platter?

BTW, you can cite your cherry-picked “polls” until the cows come home, but remember that we can do that too. Let me give you an example:

CBS News Poll. March 20-24, 2013. N=1,181 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.

“What do you think is the most important problem facing this country today?”

Economy and Jobs: 41%

Budget Deficit/National Deficit: 9%

Health Care: 5%

Partisan Politics: 4%

Other: 35%

Unsure: 3%

Guns: 3%

All other recent “polls” show the same result, namely that nearly all average Americans do not see gun control as an important national priority at this time.

The only reason your Party and Dear Leader are flogging it is to distract their gullible voters (like yourself) from their absolutely horrible record over the past 4 1/2 years. Same goes for immigration.

F-

Del Dolemonte on April 20, 2013 at 5:30 PM

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