Proposed regulations already killing food truck businesses in D.C.

posted at 10:01 pm on April 19, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Apologies for two Beltway-area stories in a row, but Maryland and Washington, D.C. offer such emblematic examples of onerous regulation and taxation run amok in a one-party system, they have many stories worth telling.

Terrible news for one small business in Washington, D.C. The Pinup Panini food truck used its grills for the last time this week:

D.C.’s proposed regulations for food trucks, which of course protect entrenched interests at the expense of up-and-comers, are poised to cause far too many sad tales like Cori Bryant’s.

Bryant launched Pinup Panini in October, serving up hot, made-to-order meals in competition with a fleet of trucks where success comes from a combination of expedient service and culinary creativity. But D.C.’s food trucks have also found themselves hampered by the city’s proposed regulations over their industry. Mayor Vince Gray first proposed regulations last year; since then, the proposed rules have gone through three extensive makeovers.

The most recent version of proposed regulations, published last month, would establish 23 mobile vending zones around the city. But those zones could only be accessed by vendors who win a lottery for one of the spaces; both the lottery and the spaces come with fees.

Other food trucks may just move to friendlier climes, over the river in Arlington:

But already some the owners of food trucks might be eyeing different territory where they might not have to face such burdensome rules. Arlington officials are also deliberating food truck regulations, and those proposed rules would actually open up the areas and lengths of time food truck could operate.

Fans of Pinup Panini, though, are out of luck. In subsequent tweets, Bryant wrote that she planned out two years to become profitable, but she “just can’t afford the war on trucks.”

Bryant also isn’t the first food truck owner to shut down her business over the threat of difficult regulations. Last month, Brian Farrell, the owner of the Italian food truck Basil Thyme, told Washington City Paper he was quitting, saying the proposed regulations would make the already difficult food truck business too burdensome to be find any success.

The Food Truck Association of Metropolitan Washington is fighting the regs in D.C., and I’ll be pitching in and hoping they can win. Sad to see dreams and livelihoods crushed like this.

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If it rains..
It pours…

Electrongod on April 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM

First!

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

-_-

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Hey! It’s FOR THE CHILDREN! And besides, any of those food truck owners DONATING to Democratic causes?

GarandFan on April 18, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I love roach coaches. There is a halal truck in Manhattan that is to die for, no really! I was there at 2300 and the line was at least 70+ people long. It was ridiculously good. There were entire families camped out on rugs eating together. Here in STL food trucks are gaining popularity. They are making the rounds to manufacturing sites and parking in the entertainment districts. Of course the municipal governments have a conniption fit about them. How to tax? How to regulate? How to license? CONTROL CONTROL CONTROL.

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Apologies for two Beltway-area stories in a row
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Well,MKH,a Non Breaking Story,after QOTD!

Hehe,nice job————————:)

canopfor on April 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

But those zones could only be accessed by vendors who win a lottery for one of the spaces; both the lottery and the spaces come with fees.

Gotta <3 government

VibrioCocci on April 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Proposed regulations already killing food truck businesses in D.C.

I wonder why you care MKH. Isn’t DC a liberal Mecca?

HotAirLib on April 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Roach Coach

Capitalist Hog on April 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

I wonder if FLOTUS has anything to do with the regulations!!!!!

canopfor on April 18, 2013 at 10:15 PM

If it rains..
It pours…

Electrongod on April 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM

First!

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

…YEP!

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Why did I just click on white space and a facebook popup appeared?

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

liberal Mecca?

HotAirLib on April 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

…did someone give HotLips permission to take his lips…. off of our liberal meccas?

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Proposed regulations already killing food truck businesses in D.C.

I wonder why you care MKH. Isn’t DC a liberal Mecca?

HotAirLib on April 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

So, if DC is mecca, do all you libturds all pull your heads out of your a$$ and face east five times a day?

Hey, is this the official QOTD?

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

liberal Mecca?

HotAirLib on April 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

…did someone give HotLips permission to take his lips…. off of our liberal meccas?

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Can you imagine the call to prayer? I’d it a giant fart!?

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 10:22 PM

First on the rezed thread.

nobar on April 19, 2013 at 10:02 PM

aaah the FTT :)

WTG

CoffeeLover on April 19, 2013 at 10:02 PM

It’s here! It’s real!
Told you!

RovesChins on April 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

It’s back!!!!

Just in time for a snack!

INC on April 19, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Oh yeah Food Truck Thread has resurfaced from the depths of HA’s cellars!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Polock Johnnies= A+. I spent a fortune. I was hungry.

wolly4321 on April 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM

First!

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

-_-

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

What, did your union contract expire?

Count to 10 on April 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM

SHUT THE FRONT DOOR, but now I don’t have anything to say :(

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM

awwww come on tom yeah you will lol

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Good Evening and welcome to the Truck Thread!

Hiya ya’all :-)

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:10 PM

THE FOOD TRUCK THREAD!

THE FOOD TRUCK THREAD!

It’s so beautiful — wait, am I dead? No . . . no! I’m alive!

*kisses food truck thread ground*

*tears make reading actual post difficult*

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:11 PM

I weep with thee…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Hiya ya’all :-)

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:10 PM

?

Needs work.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

both the lottery and the spaces come with fees.

Are they saying there’s a fee for the lottery even if you don’t win a spot? That’s doubly insane.

Fenris on April 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

And yet the feds just decided today to let non-citizen Mexican trucks swarm into the country. Despite the fact that they won’t have to abide by the same rules as US drivers, they will be undercutting rates using subsidized Mexican fuel and they won’t even need to abide by the same environmental standards. If we need more truck drivers, why not teach these people on unemployment or welfare how to drive a truck?

Buddahpundit on April 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Fracking meddlesome powers that be…

Always finding ways to put the squeeze on the little guys…

I am sorry for those who will lose their livelihoods…

This country once supported entrepreneurs, now they find ways to shut them down.

I fracking hate you govt officials!!

FOAD…

*spit*

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:16 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

It’s TGIF! So pants free weekend for cozmo eh? ;-D

Better? Lmao…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Hello FTT!!!

KCB on April 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Etiquette thing, only yankees use hiya’ and y’all together.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Ok, first and only time I was in Manhattan I got off the plane at JFK and we drove thru manhattan to NJ. Going down one of the Avenues we smelled this magical smell, and our NY friend said it was a popular halal food truck.

So the next day we intended to find and eat at the halal truck, but we wanted to go see the NA finals of the DMC DJ contest(Shiftee took 1st) at Alonso’s Party Palace(?)

So we did that and walked 8 hours all around manhattan looking for it.

Finally at 2300ish we found it. There were probably 200 people lounging around and about 70 or so in line. For $5 you got chicken and lamb with rice and pita and a sodi.

Amazing. It was soo good.

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Oh! Thank you for that! I am no yankee… lol…

I hate faux pas don’t you?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Aah. So this is what folks have been talking about all dang day. I’ll have, lessee…2 gyros, a small fruit punch and a soft-serve, please!

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Oops, forgot this was still in the hopper from last night. It seems a little discordant next to the Boston bomber stories, but we could probably use a bit of a lighter thread, so have at it. I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 19, 2013 at 10:22 PM

We can be easily amused.

KCB on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

And we did pass the Big Gay Ice Cream Truck along the way, but we didn’t want to stand in line.

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I hate faux pas don’t you?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Nope, goose liver ain’t for me.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I want 2 gyro’s, load on the goat cheese and a vanilla shake…

:-)

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Hi MKH! {waving}

KCB on April 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

What the…Food Truck Thread is back, posted anew on the 19th with comments still from the 18th.

Spooky.

Is the QOTD going to be the final day of testimony from Gosnell, because there was a last bit of testimony which made my skin crawl before I welled up; it’s awful.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

That’s okay, the rest of Texas is working pretty hard to take care of West.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

We can be easily amused.

KCB on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I am amused.
And hungry!

;)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

awwww come on now petite pointe smeared with goose liver and caviar! That’s livin’! :-D

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Haven’t hear it. Time to brace for it….

KCB on April 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

I think this was it. They fill an aluminum pie pan with rice and meat.

53rd and 6th

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:24 PM

I don’t think I can stomach any more Gosnell…

Heave – ho…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Needs work.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:15 PM

It’s the thought that counts. Don’t remember our southern brethren being such sticklers.

First!

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Impostor?

Hi Scrumpy!

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

What, did your union contract expire?

Count to 10 on April 19, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Perish the thought. It simply means that those who were dumb enough to claim it are now endangered.

Don’t be shocked, everyone had a chance to read the contract beforehand.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

THE FOOD TRUCK THREAD!

THE FOOD TRUCK THREAD!

It’s so beautiful — wait, am I dead? No . . . no! I’m alive!

*kisses food truck thread ground*

*tears make reading actual post difficult*

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:11 PM

.
The DAY has been SAVED ! … : )

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Hi wolf!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Had those fish eggs once. Even finished them off with a beer chaser.

The BA stewardess looked at me kind of funny when I asked for some picante’ sauce to pour over them.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

You might find it accidentally. I won’t say anything because people here might not want to know, and I’m sensitive to that.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:28 PM

I bet lmao!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Is this a repost?

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

I remember when NYC went to zoned permits… then after talking to the dudes running the Roach Coaches – realized some were pulling in $125K+ a year.

My outrage waned.

Odie1941 on April 19, 2013 at 10:29 PM

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Tryin’ to help the limey fit in. Those Okies can be pretty harsh on noobs.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM

See! I told you the FTT wasn’t just an urban myth.

O ye of little faith.

Solaratov on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM

They love me round these here parts… ;-D

My accent you know… I am forgiven many things!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Oops, forgot this was still in the hopper from last night. It seems a little discordant next to the Boston bomber stories, but we could probably use a bit of a lighter thread, so have at it. I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

.
It’s little “oops” like this, that can cost you the endearment of the commenters, here.

We’re keeping a ‘tally’.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

On Tuesday, vendors offered to pay the city hundreds of thousands of dollars to rent just a few feet of sidewalk space — the same amount some people pay for an entire apartment — for their pushcarts.

Minimum bids for the 10 new pushcart contracts up for grabs range from a low of $7,350 a year for the Central Park side of Fifth Avenue between East 97th and East 98th streets, to an eye-popping $176,925 for the right to hawk snacks and sodas at the northwest corner of East 60th Street and Fifth Avenue.

Bids for the patch of concrete on the southwest corner of Grand Army Plaza, across from the Plaza Hotel, start at a jaw-dropping $155,400.

The Parks Department rented out the pricey park property to about 40 pushcart vendors in and around Central Park last year, though the number of carts changes as contracts renew and expire, a Parks Department spokesman said.

link

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM

First!

Electrongod on April 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Oops, forgot this was still in the hopper from last night. It seems a little discordant next to the Boston bomber stories, but we could probably use a bit of a lighter thread, so have at it. I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

.
It’s little “oops” like this, that can cost you the endearment of the commenters, here.

We’re keeping a ‘tally’.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

You took it from us. Many of us are in therapy now.
We bow to your kindness.
*sobs*

RovesChins on April 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM

I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

.
That’s okay, the rest of Texas is working pretty hard to take care of West.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

.
The rest of the country should learn a lesson from that.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

O ye of little faith.

Solaratov on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

REALLY.

Bringst those that doubted before me.

*draws sword*

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Food truck? Where is the one where I can get two half-smokes, a hot Italian sausage with onions and peppers, chips and a big icy Dr. Pepper?

ExpressoBold on April 19, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Solaratov on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Just get a room y’all.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:39 PM

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Incredible.

A vendor’s winning bid becomes the flat fee the vendor pays annually to the Parks Department for his permit. Vendors pay the fee in monthly installments like rent. They sign five-year contracts and they’re expected to increase their annual flat fee by 5 percent each year.
Vendors are required to follow a set pricing list: $2 is the maximum charge for a hot dog, $1.25 for canned soda. They’re allowed to charge less, but they can’t charge more without written permission from the Parks Department.

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 10:42 PM

First!

Electrongod on April 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

O_o

Hope your affairs are in order.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Boston food truck industry expands

Seven Percent Solution on April 19, 2013 at 10:46 PM

The Food Truck Thread is the story of the futility of bureaucratic policies in achieving their own vaulted, socially progressive goals, and also a warning that attempting to achieve those goals has negative, unforeseen effects. But it also hints at the inevitability of freedom’s dominance over these evils:

But already some the owners of food trucks might be eyeing different territory where they might not have to face such burdensome rules. Arlington officials are also deliberating food truck regulations, and those proposed rules would actually open up the areas and lengths of time food truck could operate.

It’s everything I thought it would be.

Let The Food Truck Thread be copied and taken North, South, East, and West, and let the heralds call it forth from the ramparts of all the fortresses, both major and minor, and let it be read in each village and meeting place.

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:46 PM

*And bring the wenches whilst I’m waiting for the copying.

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM

*And mead.

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

And I get off scott-free. Happy days.

nobar on April 19, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Hope your affairs are in order.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

That’s the real Bishop, alright.

That was pretty cold, EG.

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 10:48 PM

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:30 PM

.
They love me round these here parts… ;-D

My accent you know… I am forgiven many things!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 PM

.
I just replied to this comment, but it went to “mod que” (I’m guessing).

I’ll refrain from trying again, to see if it “pops up”.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM

First!

Electrongod on April 19, 2013 at 10:33 PM

.
O_o

Hope your affairs are in order.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

.
I clearly remember giving someone a “heads-up” about this very thing, last night.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:51 PM

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:49 PM

That bad was it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Somebody who launched a business in DC knowing what regs were in store was not thinking properly. The “war on trucks” had begun long before the first Pinup Panini rolled out onto the road.

It’s sort of like manufacturing guns in California — you just don’t do it.

unclesmrgol on April 19, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

…*smooch*…

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2013 at 10:54 PM

That bad was it? Hmmmmmmmmmmmm?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I’m still tryin’ to figure out what a mod what is.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Unusual amount of MKH love tonight.

*sip*

Food Truck Thread . . . may have powers.

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 10:56 PM

If it rains..
It pours…

Electrongod on April 18, 2013 at 10:03 PM

First!

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 10:04 PM

…YEP!

KOOLAID2 on April 18, 2013 at 10:16 PM

…^ ^ ^ …

Hope your affairs are in order.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 10:44 PM

…that was last night…and as you can see…THAT!…never happened…so let Eg survive!

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’ll have an update on West, Texas tomorrow. I didn’t want to neglect that all day, but it seemed like it would really have gotten lost in the mix today.
Mary Katharine Ham on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 PM

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That’s okay, the rest of Texas is working pretty hard to take care of West.

cozmo on April 19, 2013 at 10:25 PM

.
The rest of the country should learn a lesson from that.

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 10:37 PM

This.

RovesChins on April 19, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Hands off of my food truck!

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Food Truck Thread is back from the dead! Hallelujah!

Corporal Tunnel on April 19, 2013 at 11:03 PM

This is an outrage.

Philly on April 19, 2013 at 11:05 PM

So,the Food Truck Thread,re-appeared eh!!

Another Bermuda Triangle thingy of the Net!

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Local news reporting of the DC Food Truck regulations.

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Citizen Journalism video and reporting on Food Trucks DC.

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 11:11 PM

I ❤ Food Truck Threads

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM

I understand the argument that Food Trucks don’t have the same fees, regulations, and other costs of brick&mortar restaurants, but they don’t have many of B&M’s advantages either.

Using Fees/regulations/lotteries/etc to regulate Food Trucks to “increase fairness” isn’t the correct path to take.

tom daschle concerned on April 19, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Just want to let you all know that I had a convo with angrymike wee hrs of the morning on QOTD.

He say to say Hi to all!!

He will slowly come back…

I was up all last night and morning, I am tired so will bid all a good night!

God Bless you all…

Good Night~!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 11:20 PM

And so begins another pants-free weekend at cozmos.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Well,MKH,a Non Breaking Story,after QOTD!

Hehe,nice job————————:)

canopfor on April 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

After yesterday’s QOTD…?

canapfor wants all bomber, all the time.

itsnotaboutme on April 19, 2013 at 11:23 PM

So is the the FTTOTD (Food Truck Thread of The Day)?

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 11:23 PM

It’s a thread about the roach coach… and look… HAL showed up to prove the name.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Good night, Scrumpy. Sleep well.

wolfsDad on April 19, 2013 at 11:25 PM

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