Dead suspect: “I don’t have a single American friend, I don’t understand them”; Update: Dzhokar’s website linked Islamist sites; Update: Tamerlan pushed AQ Prophecy

posted at 10:10 am on April 19, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Note: Originally posted at 8:46 am ET; bumped to 10:10.

Tamerlan Tsarnaev died in a shootout with Boston police earlier this morning, perhaps killed by bullets, his own IED, or the fact that his brother Dzhokar reportedly drove over him in order to plow through a police barricade after the shootout.  He will live on in a photo essay taken when he competed in Golden Glove boxing, thanks to photographer Johannes Hirn, linked by an alert Dave Weigel a few minutes ago.  The accompanying interview raised at least a yellow flag about the isolation of Tsarnaev from his community in the essay titled “Will Box for Passport”:

Tamerlan, who studies at Bunker Hill Community College in Boston and wants to become an engineer, took the semester off from school to train for the competition.

Tamerlan fled Chechnya with his family because of the conflict in the early 90s, and lived for years in Kazakhstan before getting to the United States as a refugee.

Originally from Chechnya, but living in the United States since five years, Tamerlan says: “I don’t have a single American friend, I don’t understand them.”

If he wins enough fights… Tamerlan says he could be selected for the US Olympic team and be naturalized American. Unless his native Chechnya becomes independent, Tamerlan says he would rather compete for the United States than for Russia.

Tamerlan says he doesn’t drink or smoke anymore: “God said no alcohol.” A muslim, he says: “There are no values anymore,” and worries that “people can’t control themselves.”

Accordingly, Weigel and others claim that this is Tsarnaev’s YouTube channel (which I already posted in the main thread).  It’s not confirmed, and there may well be more than one Tamerlan Tsarnaev, but if it’s his, a certain theme emerges almost immediately. It’s odd that Tsarnaev wanted to compete for the US rather than Kazakhstan, perhaps, where he might have fit in better; if this really is his YouTube account, it’s even more odd.

Update: Some are claiming that this is Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s Amazon wish list. I’d approach this with a grain of salt, but again if so, it’s certainly interesting.  Quite a few items on making fake IDs, but they’ve all been on the list for almost six years.  Not sure if I’m buying this.

Update: More from the AP on the background of both brothers, including this tidbit, emphasis mine:

In May of 2011, Dzhokhar A. Tsarnaev, then a senior at a prestigious high school, was awarded a $2,500 scholarship from the city of Cambridge, Mass., to pursue higher education. Now, Tsarnaev is on the run, described as “armed and dangerous” and suspected of the Boston Marathon bombing. …

According to the website spotcrime.com, Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend.

He was an amateur boxer, listed as a competitor in a National Golden Gloves competition in 2009.

Assuming that boxing profile preceded the arrest, that might be an inflection point for Tamerlan’s radicalization.

Update: Reuters reports that the younger brother’s website promoted Islamist websites:

Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev posted links to Islamic websites and others calling for Chechen independence on what appears to be his page on a Russian language social networking site.

Abusive comments in Russian and English were flooding onto Tsarnaev’s page on VK, a Russian-language social media site, on Friday after he was identified as a suspect in the bombing of the Boston marathon. …

His “World view” is listed as “Islam” and his “Personal priority” is “career and money”.

He has posted links to videos of fighters in the Syrian civil war and to Islamic web pages with titles like “Salamworld, my religion is Islam” and “There is no God but Allah, let that ring out in our hearts”.

Update: Mother Jones’ Adam Serwer reports that Tamerlan was a fan of the “al-Qaeda prophecy”:

Tamerlan Tsarnaev, the 26 year-old brother of the second Boston bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, had a YouTube page where he posted religious videos, including a video of Feiz Mohammad, afundamentalist Australian Muslim preacher who rails against the evils of Harry Potter. Among those videos is one dedicated to the prophecy of the Black Banners of Khurasan which is embraced by Islamic extremists—particularly Al Qaeda. The videos posted on what appears to be Tsarnaev’s YouTube page may shed light on the motivations for the attack on the Boston Marathon. The prophecy states that an invincible army will come from the region of “Khurasan,” a large portion of territory in central Asia.

“This is a major hadith (reported saying of the prophet Muhammad) that jihadis use, it is essentially an end-time prophecy,” says Aaron Zelin, a fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy “This is definitely important in Al Qaeda’s ideology.” In The Black Banners, former FBI agent Ali Soufan’s book about his pursuit of Al Qaeda that is named after this prophecy, Soufan describes the prophecy this way:

Khurasan is a term for a historical region spanning northeastern and eastern Iran and parts of Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan, and northwestern Pakistan. Because of the hadith, jihadists believe that this is the region from which they will inflict a major defeat against their enemies—in the Islamic version of Armageddon…

Jeff Dunetz has more.

Update: ABC has this video of the carjacked Mercedes being towed away, with a brief explanation of how the police “put two and two together” from Brian Ross:

And now the police want to find a gray Honda CRV with Massachusetts plate 316-ES9, believed to be heading toward Connecticut.


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If you don’t like America and her people: leave.

Don’t try to change them.

Or turn them into corpses.

ajacksonian on April 19, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Right wing “intolerance” to blame in 3..2..1…

Gatsu on April 19, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Where they here ILLEGALLY?

PappyD61 on April 19, 2013 at 8:52 AM

The younger one came here at age 9, attended a prestigious school. Ben Affleck attended same school.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 8:53 AM

This just proves that we need more liberal immigration laws. And that assimilation is totally overrated.

Right Dims?

Remember, “diversity is our greatest strength!”

AZCoyote on April 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM

I am livid. This guys came here, went to the best schools, got scholarships many Americans would die for only turn around to kill us.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Well, We know what they were teaching at the school – America is BAD!

djl130 on April 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Here’s a tea party favorite of the bomber for his YouTube page.

http://youtu.be/oz2m0dbRaj8

happytobehere on April 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Assuming that boxing profile preceded the arrest, that might be an inflection point for Tamerlan’s radicalization.

So he sought a religion that condones such beatings?

happytobehere on April 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Is this the “it must be the fault of Americans” thread?

The Rogue Tomato on April 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Boston television is already trying to find what pushed them over the edge…..

Why do we have to understand evil……….that it’s evil?

Will we start a outreach to Chechynian Muslims that will tell them how nice we are? Oh, maybe in the next budget?

PappyD61 on April 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

What happened to the names of Mike Mulugeta and Sunil Tripathi as listed here?

Stoic Patriot on April 19, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Good grief

And years in Kazakhstan? Not to make light of this, but this guy is reminding me of Borat. It’s gotta be tough to identify these terrorist when they only have one thing in common.

forest on April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

He’s a self-identified Muslim.

But yet, we’ll continue to hear him constantly referred to as from Chechnya, with no mention of this.

byepartisan on April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

I’m sorry he didn’t fit in. It’s too bad he couldn’t find another country to live in instead of murdering innocent people.

Dongemaharu on April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Ann Compton practically was drooling with concern over the decision to have Obama in Boston yesterday so close to this terror.

It’s all about Obama to the media.

PappyD61 on April 19, 2013 at 9:02 AM

It’s odd that Tsarnaev wanted to compete for the US rather than Kazakhstan, perhaps, where he might have fit in better; if this really is his YouTube account, it’s even more odd.

Fox said something like, “He hates Russia, would prefer to represent Chechnya (but obviously can’t), would settle for U.S.

Also wondered what the connection was between Chechnya and U.S. as targets . . .

*click*

Axe on April 19, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Gee, whoever could have guessed that the terrorists would turn out to be a couple of Islamofascist loons that our government invited in.

Maybe their slogan should be: diversity is our greatest strength, even when it’s murdering and maiming us.

AZCoyote on April 19, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Muslim.

gumbyandpokey and other submoronic leftist a$$hats hardest hit.

Big win, eh, G&P?

Midas on April 19, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend.

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Non citizens who commit crimes should be deported. I don’t care if they have a green card.

Wigglesworth on April 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM

+1 gatsu

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Pappy he’ll be praised for his leadership

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Our immigration policies suck…someone get hold of Rubio and the repubs and tell them that this has to be part of the conversation. Our borders are porous….send them back, shut them down..deal with it….we have no clue how many of these killers are among us…..

crosshugger on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Let’s hope this kills the “immigration reform” sell-out about to come before Congress. We should be deporting third-world trash…not legalizing them.

cajunpatriot on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

I am livid. This guys came here, went to the best schools, got scholarships many Americans would die for only turn around to kill us.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 8:57 AM

That’s a major difference between present-day immigrants vs those who came to Ellis Island.

These immigrants don’t want to assimilate.

sentinelrules on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

They finally found narutoboy.

John the Libertarian on April 19, 2013 at 9:12 AM

If you don’t like America and her people: leave.

Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Take heart, little camper, I’m sure CNN will find that these guys once skimmed the NRA website and so you’ll be able to blame heartland America for all the death and violence.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

It’s been a bad week for the MSN.

newportmike on April 19, 2013 at 9:16 AM

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

You’re so full of shit that you stink through the net. If you were decent you’d not be here.

Schadenfreude on April 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Our liberal friends will be mourning the fact that, once again, these guys turn out not to be right-wing nutters.

trigon on April 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

lostmotherload is full of caca today. Suffocate from it, you fool.

Schadenfreude on April 19, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Time for some new Muslim-Control Laws a la Newtown.

sentinelrules on April 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Read this, short and summarizing.

Schadenfreude on April 19, 2013 at 9:18 AM

This sure messes with the gang of 8, with Obama’s “no more terrorism, I killed Osama”, and lots more.

PC will kill all.

Schadenfreude on April 19, 2013 at 9:19 AM

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Aw, still butt-hurt over the loss of the gun bill yesterday, I see.

Sweet, sweet, bitter tears you have.

Thomas More on April 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Breaking on Fox: Father contacted in Russia, younger son a second year medical student.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Let’s hope this kills the “immigration reform” sell-out about to come before Congress. We should be deporting third-world trash…not legalizing them.

cajunpatriot on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

On the contrary. Let’s use this attack by Islamic terrorists here as resident aliens to broaden the debate over immigration reform. The Junta of Ocho and Hispanic activists have made the debate all about fast-tracking citizenship for the illegals. Well, this is a huge part of our immigration policies too. That point can’t be emphasized enough. If we are to engage in immigration reform it needs to be all inclusive and not giving resident status to the illegals.

Happy Nomad on April 19, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

The point is that we working stiffs don’t like you moochers. And we don’t like immigrants that want to turn our homeland into a cesspool like the country they left. Funny thing is the two brothers would just as soon kill you, their fan, as they would anyone else.

AH_C on April 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Our immigration policies suck…someone get hold of Rubio and the repubs and tell them that this has to be part of the conversation. Our borders are porous….send them back, shut them down..deal with it….we have no clue how many of these killers are among us…..

crosshugger on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Ditto. Screw Rubio.

BuckeyeSam on April 19, 2013 at 9:23 AM

I’m confused. Why would 2 Muslim Chechen patriot Tea Partiers hate taxes so much?

EddieC on April 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

It’s time to clean out all the University of the anti-American, lefty wing ideologues. They are producing dangerous people like these two.

Kjeil on April 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Lsm only focusing on Chechen not Muslim ties

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Hey! At least he is white! Lefties rejoice.

bitsy on April 19, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Funny I was born here, raised here, have lived my entire life here, obey the laws, pay my taxes, pay any fines, and yet am STILL attacked by individuals who want the government to do more while I just want it out of my life.

Those trying to change me, interfere with my life, and turn my law abiding nature and support of natural rights into criminal activities: I want those people to stop, leave me alone or just plain leave to a land that has all those features built-in where they will be more happy with their wants and desires catered to and their freedoms absent.

You got a problem with that?

ajacksonian on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

BREAKING IN NIAGARA FALLS: Police source: 2 Russian nationals pulled over; 4 suspicious backpacks in car, robot & bomb techs on scene @WGRZ

Schadenfreude on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Breaking on Fox: Father contacted in Russia, younger son a second year medical student.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

But the SRM told me poverty and a lack of opportunity cause terrorism.

forest on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I almost shed a tear for this mofo, oh wait, no I didn’t. Hope your 72 virgins look like every liberal skank I’ve ever seen…..Pelosi…etc

msupertas on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

The Leftists are crushed that these guys are Muslims.

Charlemagne on April 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

If you don’t like America and her people: leave.
Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.
lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

There’s no where else to go. But there’s plenty of other countries to be a jihadist and celebrate Allah by killing each other.

If you can think of a better country to move to please let me know.

happytobehere on April 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Breaking on Fox: Father contacted in Russia, younger son a second year medical student.

celticdefender on April 19, 2013 at 9:20 AM

At 19?

Maybe a second-year college student in pre-med. Let’s see what the various Taxachusetts schools have to say.

either orr on April 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Oh no, oh no – Chris Matthews is probably having a hissie
fit…… The bombers are radical Islamists….
I don’t think they are Tea Party members.
Border security should be the top priority.
Shut down immigration reform NOW…..

redguy on April 19, 2013 at 9:27 AM

ajacksonian on April 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I’m with you. I’m sick of interfering Liberals demanding their policy preferences be imposed on the rest of us. My brand of conservatism can be summed up simply as “Leave me alone!”

Charlemagne on April 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

And years in Kazakhstan? Not to make light of this, but this guy is reminding me of Borat. It’s gotta be tough to identify these terrorist when they only have one thing in common.

forest on April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

That is the strongest thing that makes me think that this is some bigger group involvement. They tried to look Americanized and the younger one looked like a parody of an American teenager. Furthermore, we have heard how terrorist groups have been trying to make bombers look more American and less Muslim.

melle1228 on April 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

The Leftists are crushed that these guys are Muslims.
Charlemagne on April 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I am too. It’s a much worse proposition than them being just crazy Columbine kids or even anti-abortion nutters.

Honestly, it’s really bad that they’re Muslims. There are millions of them. And their holy texts actually say they’re supposed to kill us.

Very unfortunate. Not surprising though.

happytobehere on April 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Lest we forget…

hungrymongo on April 19, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Not one single troll has said it’s good one of the terrorists is dead, and the other is pretty much keeping a low profile. Instead, it’s just, “You Conservatives are Big Blue Meanies!”

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Why do I feel as if Obama and JNap don’t have any handle on this? All the while, white males are cause of all the country’s woes.

I need a bumper sticker: “I’m a WASP, not a terrorist.”

BuckeyeSam on April 19, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Tamerlan was arrested for domestic violence in July 2009, after assaulting his girlfriend.

Not a citizen? Domestic violence charge? How did he get his pressure cooker?

JellyToast on April 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Non citizens who commit crimes should be deported. I don’t care if they have a green card.

Wigglesworth on April 19, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Totally agree. It’ll be interesting to find out how this guy got his green card to begin with. Probably thanks to that wonderful ‘diversity lottery’. Now there’s a racket if ever I saw one. Nice starting point for some meaningful spending cuts, along with chain migration and welfare benefits for these people.

Funny, that’s not the attitude I see here with all the endless kvetching about ‘takers’,’ dumb voters’ etc. Leave if you don’t like it.

lostmotherland on April 19, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Geez, what difference could there possibly be? One guy from a Godforsaken ‘country’ in the Caucasus who has no natural ties to the US whatsoever, the other a loyal citizen whose only wish is for our government not to interfere in his and his fellow citizens’ daily lives, and whose ancestors presumably made this country the greatest in the world. Sorry, I see no difference here. Let’s tell both to take a hike if they don’t like our country.

Alexis on April 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

So how many bet some news groups will say “thank goodness these are white dudes”?

Imrahil on April 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

One can only imagine the disgusting screenplay ideas going through the diseased minds of the traitorous lefies out in Hollywood as they watch this real life drama play out.

I hope and pray no more innocent lives of cops and civilians are lost in pursuit of this piece of garbage.

surrounded on April 19, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Not a citizen? Domestic violence charge? How did he get his pressure cooker?

JellyToast on April 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

How was he allowed to get a gun, or keep it after the charges? MA is a liberal state, very sensitive about such things.

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Not one single troll has said it’s good one of the terrorists is dead, and the other is pretty much keeping a low profile. Instead, it’s just, “You Conservatives are Big Blue Meanies!”

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Pretty much because to leftist liberals people who just want to be left alone and keep the money they earn are more dangerous then murderers and terrorists.

melle1228 on April 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Credit where credit is due: NPR at 7:30 this AM were openly discussing Chechen/Al Queda/Jihadist connections. Not everyone in the MSM is in denial.

Bat Chain Puller on April 19, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Tamerlan says he doesn’t drink or smoke anymore: “God said no alcohol.” A muslim, he says: “There are no values anymore,” and worries that “people can’t control themselves.”

I was listening to NPR this morning and this article was referenced but they did not state that Tamerlan was a muslim, in fact they SPECIFICALLY stated they did not know if he was a muslim.

Liars.

They referenced that he did not drink or smoke. However, they did not go to the next sentence in the article to see that the killer was a muslim? The lengths the left will go to to obscure the truth when it does not fit their narrative is astounding.

No wait, it isn’t. It is the left, after all. They lie.

kutabeach on April 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Religion of peace, right?

BuckeyeSam on April 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

I’m with you. I’m sick of interfering Liberals demanding their policy preferences be imposed on the rest of us. My brand of conservatism can be summed up simply as “Leave me alone!”

Charlemagne on April 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

I would be a Jeffersonian.

I believe in the right to keep and bear arms being the source of freedom and our natural right to enforce such freedom. That makes me a Jacksonian.

I’m a nice man, don’t want to make trouble and all I ever, simply, ask: is never bring a fight to me for my life, my liberty or my freedom or you WILL live to regret it. That is my promise. Why that sounds like a threat to the Leftists is beyond me.

ajacksonian on April 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

They tried to look Americanized and the younger one looked like a parody of an American teenager. Furthermore, we have heard how terrorist groups have been trying to make bombers look more American and less Muslim.

melle1228 on April 19, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Tamerlan’s first favorite video on his youtube account… if it it his youtube account

equanimous on April 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

It is islamic

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

NASA!!!!
You failed us
/

Electrongod on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

It’ll be interesting to find out how this guy got his green card to begin with. Probably thanks to that wonderful ‘diversity lottery’.

More likely had “refugee” status. That program is almost as big a scam as the idiotic diversity lottery for visas.

AZCoyote on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Deval Patrick is actually giving a sane press conference, good for him. In New York they would be demanding that everyone lay in the street naked to be searched and that all conservatives should be herded onto trains for security reasons.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

terror.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Open Borders

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Arab spring keeps paying dividends for Obama.

portlandon on April 19, 2013 at 9:39 AM

gets people killed.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Build the bleeping fence; enforce the freaking laws on the books.

socalcon on April 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Tamerlan’s first favorite video on his youtube account… if it it his youtube account

equanimous on April 19, 2013 at 9:37 AM

He he… Love that chameleon video..

melle1228 on April 19, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Deval Patrick is actually giving a sane press conference, good for him. In New York they would be demanding that everyone lay in the street naked to be searched and that all conservatives should be herded onto trains for security reasons.

Bishop on April 19, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Remember this moment.

It is likely to be the last sane thing that this man ever does.

It could snap him into the real world, but I’m not betting on it.

ajacksonian on April 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Deval Patrick , can not use the words, islamic, terror, killer,

all’s he has is “suspects” and that shit.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

In case you forgot what Muslims from Chechnya are capable of. Remember Belsan?

Blue Collar Todd on April 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Beck is saying that the dead suspect had many videos (22) calling for the killing the infidels, and ranting in the way jihadists do. He’ll post the videos later.

Weight of Glory on April 19, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Just don’t say islam

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

MSNBC’s Chris Matthews isn’t the only one weeping in despair that it’s not a WASP railing about gun control but the usual Muslim foreigner. Salon.com’s David Sirota was ranting about how this had something to do with white privilege. Doubtless a cloud of gloom is enveloping the White House.

kd6rxl on April 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

The one silver lining if there is one, perhaps the direction of Immigration reform will be altered…..

hillsoftx on April 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

and terror in the same sentance or post.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

I wonder if his name is a version of Tamerlane aka Timur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timur

workingclass artist on April 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Our immigration policies suck…someone get hold of Rubio and the repubs and tell them that this has to be part of the conversation. Our borders are porous….send them back, shut them down..deal with it….we have no clue how many of these killers are among us…..

[crosshugger on April 19, 2013 at 9:11 AM]

Come on. This case doesn’t really follow the issue that the borders are porous, but it does follow the issue that our legal immigration policies need some good attention. But we knew that from 911.

This is just a guess but I’m thinking these family got the break to move here as a result of the the diplomatic dealings with Kazakhstan as it related to the war in Afghanistan. I know we were interested in getting an air base there for a few years, but IIRC, that fell through. But with that strategic diplomatic warming comes all sorts of other relations getting put on the table. Why it might even include taking a bothersome group of refugees of the hands of one partner in the relationship or the other.

In any case, with our on again off again relationship with Russia, anything could have set these two off. Heck, we might find the inflection point was actually something better described as an “Overcharge” button.

Dusty on April 19, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Never ever say Mexican Drug Dealing Coyote Zeta Killers Who Chop Off Heads

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM

The one silver lining if there is one, perhaps the direction of Immigration reform will be altered…..

hillsoftx on April 19, 2013 at 9:42 AM

This.

And perhaps a kibosh on Foreign Aid as well.

workingclass artist on April 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Hurry! Get the amnesty bill passed before the public finds out what’s in it!

Sincerely,
Chuck Schumer
John McCain

Charlemagne on April 19, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Assuming that boxing profile preceded the arrest, that might be an inflection point for Tamerlan’s radicalization.

How is following and promoting your religion considered “radicalization”? These fellas have earned their seats in the great sky whorehouse of Islam. They are Muslim heroes, not “radicals”. What’s next, calling them AL_Q affiliates with no connections to Saudi or the “real” Islam of peace and tolerance?

Wish you weren’t so PC about Islam and the work Muslims must do, ED.

BL@KBIRD on April 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM

He had a pretty blond girlfriend who converted to islam, so I don’t think he was doing so bad. Also, a number of people are coming forward and saying they were friends.

Blake on April 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Oh, and forgot: the dimwit following Blitzer yesterday on CNN ( after the FBI photo release) says” they look like, UN, er, that they’re from HERE. ”

No racism in the MSM.

socalcon on April 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM

I’m sorry he didn’t fit in. It’s too bad he couldn’t find another country to live in instead of murdering innocent people.

Dongemaharu on April 19, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Indeed.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 19, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Once again the media will slime and slime the opponents of The Party and once they find out they are once again Islamic terrorists they will cover up that fact, up play the ‘white man’ angle and then blame the right for these Islamic attacks.

The left wing is evil. Pure evil.

GardenGnome on April 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM

This will become normal.

These 2 will embolden other domestic Islamists here in the states.

portlandon on April 19, 2013 at 9:46 AM

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