Rush Limbaugh to Rubio: Why are we doing something on immigration that Democrats are salivating at?

posted at 6:01 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via the Daily Rushbo, I assume from the second clip below that Rubio didn’t persuade him in the first. He didn’t persuade me either. I’ve held off on posting over the last few days even though fellow border hawks Conn Carroll and Mickey Kaus have been tearing into the Gang of Eight’s plan because I wasn’t sure if the border-security “triggers” in the bill were as flimsy as they seem. There are two triggers, one right away to legalize illegals after DHS proposes a security plan and then another five or 10 years from now that’ll trigger the green card/citizenship process once the border is substantially secure. Opponents claim that the second trigger is phony: If DHS hasn’t hit its security target after five years, a “border commission” takes over and gets to try. After five more years of that, unless I’m missing something, the green-card process is triggered whether or not the commission’s succeeded. (If you read this post, you know all of this already.) I’ve been waiting for Rubio to explain why that’s incorrect, but skip below to 7:25 and listen. He doesn’t say it’s incorrect. What he says is that, if the “border commission” is necessary (which it will be), he trusts that the governors of Texas, Arizona, etc., will come up with something to make this work. There’s no absolute requirement that the border in fact be secured before the path to citizenship begins, just an assurance that we’ll get 10 years of effort of greater or lesser seriousness to make it happen. I thought Rubio’s whole shtick before this process began was that he’d walk away from a bill that didn’t make amnesty contingent upon actual border security. And yet here we are.

There is a potentially meaningful requirement in the bill for E-Verify, but there’s a loophole there too. Evidently, after 10 years, if the bill’s tied up in litigation (which it will be), the feds can begin the green-card process even if E-Verify hasn’t been universally imposed yet. That’s really all the “trigger” is — a 10-year wait period before amnesty begins in earnest, presumably acceptable to the Republicans in the Gang of Eight because it gives the party a full decade plus another five-year green-card waiting period after that to try (and fail) to turn those soon-to-be citizens into GOP voters. Ironically, Rubio insists here to Limbaugh that “If we are doing this for political reasons, we’re going to be disappointed.” That’s fair enough if you’re getting a meaningful policy victory from it, i.e. real border security. But we’re not. So what are we getting? No wonder Americans are so skeptical about reform.

Do note that, per Politico, supporters of the bill are pleasantly surprised by the lack of pushback they’ve gotten so far from the right. If you want to stop this train, you’d better speak up. It’s leaving the station. I’ll leave you with this from amnesty shill Frank Sharry, in case you’re still skeptical that the so-called triggers are as weak as they seem: “The triggers are based on developing plans and spending money, not on reaching that [border-security] effectiveness, which is really quite clever.”

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Methinks Rubio envisions himself as the Hispanic Obama…

unaffiliated on April 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Yep. Unfortunately, many Repubs are praying for a messiah (e.g. Obama), instead of lifting their eys to the truth.

TitularHead on April 18, 2013 at 9:43 PM

PappyD61 on April 18, 2013 at 9:12 PM

Wow pappy. A comment that long I just skipped thinking it was ResistMuchWeeWee.

oldroy on April 18, 2013 at 9:44 PM

I’m at the point that I don’t even want to vote anymore.. it seems so useless right now…

unaffiliated on April 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

A merica is a terrible thing to waste.

That joke is from my former boss who fought in the South Pacific. He went to a college to tutor as a volunteer and was surprised that the kids never heard of Iwo Jima. But he was more upset by their denial of American exceptionalism and and lack of commitment.

He had stories to tell them — and me.

Don’t give up. Work with your state or local party. If it feels useless, just try to organize something.

Too few centrist and right people make friends and get involved.

Pray and ask God to lead you.

Great men suffered and died for the fragile thing we have left.

IlikedAUH2O on April 18, 2013 at 9:45 PM

I’m at the point that I don’t even want to vote anymore.. it seems so useless right now…

unaffiliated on April 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Never have missed a vote. Never will vote again. Let it burn.

oldroy on April 18, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Let me get this straight: The libs want the Schumer/Rubio Amnesty Bill to fail, so they can beat him in his next election using this issue?

Sounds good to me. I’ll sacrifice Jeb’s boy for a win here. Heck, I’d throw in Toomey to sweeten the pot.


You’ll have to cut TerryE some slack. She’s a party-first kind of gal. Destroying the country is fine with her, as long as a republican wins as a result.

xblade on April 18, 2013 at 9:54 PM

“Because we are sooooo stupid” — The Rs in DC

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 9:56 PM

To hell with the Republicans.

Sarah Palin, we need you.

Zorro on April 18, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Rubio is a joke and he’s making the Tea Party look incompetent for dragging his phony azz out. He’s thinking he’ll get the Hispanic vote with this move and he’s trying to shore that base up…Mark my words he’ll leave the Republican Party and run as a demorat as soon as he gets this through, well, if he does.

Tbone McGraw on April 18, 2013 at 10:57 PM

So why cant the pubs simply agree that amnesty does not occur u til all litigation regarding border security is resolved? As long as the ACLU and the hundreds of other civil rights groups challange the agreed to framework…no amnesty will occur? If the lotigation is finally resolved against tighter border security, then the deal is dead.

rickyricardo on April 18, 2013 at 11:02 PM

We have seen in the middle-East the negative effect of tribalism and loyalty to the tribe rather than to the country so perhaps Rubio’s support of what appears to be a Chuck Schumer orchestrated amnesty bill is just expressing his loyalty to the Hispanic tribe over loyalty to the USA.

Nomas on April 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM

Illegal immigration could be enforced, we just don’t have many like sheriff Joe who will stand up and try to do what is right. You see NY can put out a bounty on American citizens who own a firearm, but you cannot question the customer or cashier in Wall-mart that doesn’t know a single word of English. If we made employers criminally liable for those they hired and made it ever Americans responsibility to report those that are clearly not American, this problem would be nipped in the bud. But in this day and age, doing what is right will brand you as being a xenophobe or a racist.

SGinNC on April 19, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Question for Rubio: will there be any quota on Chechnyan Islamist immigration?

Do we have enough of their “diversity” yet?

virgo on April 20, 2013 at 9:47 AM