Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

[Q]uestions of why the Democratic leadership pushed a bill to the floor that ultimately fell five votes short had some whispering about poor planning. “There is going to be a lot of hindsighting,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who represents Newtown. He didn’t count himself among the critics, though. “We had to have a vote at some point, and I think now is as good a time as any, and we’re just going to be determined and keep fighting.”…

What became clear Wednesday evening is that any momentum the gun-control movement had had in the wake of the Newtown tragedy had been stalled. Democrats remain heartened that the public overwhelmingly agrees with them on the issue of background checks. But they acknowledged that hopes for swift action have devolved into a longer legislative slog.

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Gun control advocates have told me the assault weapons ban was intended to be a bargaining chip. Ask for the moon, settle for less—in this case, universal background checks. If that was the strategy, it backfired. For most of February and March, gun advocates focused their criticisms on the assault weapons ban. They correctly observed that it outlawed guns but did nothing to keep outlaws from having guns. And they used the time to organize their base, comprised largely of gun owners who love the AR-15 and its variations. Many gun owners might have supported background checks had they not been distracted by the assault weapons issue, which caused them to distrust gun control proponents even more than before.

The proposal to ban assault weapons also led to the Senate spending precious time holding hearings on the merits of the ban. Given this proposal was going nowhere, why waste the time? If President Obama had pushed for a law only requiring universal background checks—maybe coupled with the NRA’s proposal for more funding for school security—he might have been able to persuade Congress to consider his proposals in February, when Newtown was fresher in our collective memory.

The four-month delay enabled the NRA to rally its troops—and, more importantly, its allies in Congress.

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[T]he GOP controlled House was clearly unwilling to pass serious gun control legislation. Anything that got through the Senate would have to be even further watered down in order to get through the House. The administration no doubt hoped that the vote would be a tough one for blue state Republicans and help whip up the base for 2014, but it’s hard to see a serious person being convinced that this legislative process was going to end up making substantial changes in American gun policy.

A principled senator who truly believed that his or her vote on a gun control law would make a real difference on the ground might choose to stake an entire career on one vote. But if the vote in question were more an act of symbolism and sham that real substance, the equation is very different. Is there really any point in throwing your political career away in order to give a few days’ passing satisfaction to New York Times editorial writers?

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Toomey, who threw his political weight into working with his Senate friend Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., on a compromise to expand background checks to commercial firearms sales over the Internet and at gun shows, said that for him it’s time to move on.

“I did the best I could. I wish it had passed, but the Senate has spoken and these things happen,” Toomey told The Morning Call immediately after the vote on his amendment. “It’s always worth it to do the right thing … no regrets.”

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Speaking is physically difficult for me. But my feelings are clear: I’m furious. I will not rest until we have righted the wrong these senators have done, and until we have changed our laws so we can look parents in the face and say: We are trying to keep your children safe. We cannot allow the status quo — desperately protected by the gun lobby so that they can make more money by spreading fear and misinformation — to go on.

I am asking every reasonable American to help me tell the truth about the cowardice these senators demonstrated. I am asking for mothers to stop these lawmakers at the grocery store and tell them: You’ve lost my vote. I am asking activists to unsubscribe from these senators’ e-mail lists and to stop giving them money. I’m asking citizens to go to their offices and say: You’ve disappointed me, and there will be consequences…

Mark my words: if we cannot make our communities safer with the Congress we have now, we will use every means available to make sure we have a different Congress, one that puts communities’ interests ahead of the gun lobby’s. To do nothing while others are in danger is not the American way.

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In Giffords’ view, these senators are two-faced, because you cannot truly sympathize with her unless you vote for the bills she supports. But I am a little confused about the purported motivation for this perceived betrayal. Obama and Giffords both insist the senators who voted against new gun controls did so not out of conviction but out of fear—specifically, fear that they would be defeated the next time they run for re-election. If their constituents “overwhelmingly favored expanding background checks,” however, wouldn’t voting for the bill mandating those have been the politically expedient thing to do? And why is opposing the will of the majority a mark of “cowardice,” as Giffords says, rather than a mark of courage?

Furthermore, why would senators be afraid of “the gun lobby” unless they think it can sway voters against them? Isn’t that ultimately the source of the NRA’s fearsome power? But if voters are so easily manipulated, why should we be impressed by majority support for expanded background checks or any other gun control measure? I suspect that Giffords credits the majority with wisdom only when the polls are going her way, just as she credits politicians with integrity only when they agree with her.

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If this doesn’t demonstrate the limitations of the president’s political muscle and the influence of his newly minted Organizing for Action lobbying group, I don’t know what does. Yet, despite the embarrassing setback, Obama nonetheless argued that he still held the upper hand, politically: “If this Congress refuses to listen to the American people and pass commonsense gun legislation, then the real impact is going to have to come from the voters.” That couldn’t misread the political environment heading into 2014 anymore. That’s the audacity of mope.

Put simply, the 2014 Senate elections will be fought predominantly on the very turf that is most inhospitable to gun control–Southern and Mountain West conservative states. It’s no coincidence that three of the four Democrats who opposed the Toomey-Manchin bill are facing difficult reelections in 2014 and presumably are attuned to the sentiments of their constituents. Blame the National Rifle Association for the bill’s failure, but the lobby is feeding into already deeply held opposition to gun regulations and a broader sense of anxiety about the president’s and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s intentions–particularly given the president’s past publicized remark about “bitter” rural voters who “cling to their guns and religion.” It doesn’t take much for the gun-rights crowd, significant in these states, to jump to inaccurate conclusions given that history.

And how do the White House or allied groups plan on punishing gun-control opponents? The notion of challenging the Second Amendment Democrats is as fanciful as it is self-defeating. Democratic primary voters in the deep South have significantly different views on gun rights than their coastal counterparts. Even if they support expanded background checks, the chance of landing a candidate running a one-issue campaign against brand-name Democrats like Mark Pryor and Mark Begich defies common sense.

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What was so extraordinary about the president’s performance yesterday is that this is the version of himself he’s always tried to keep under wraps. He made his career on sounding reasonable, positioning himself as the middle between two extremes, pretending to afford respect for the arguments of his opponents, and never, ever showing anger. You always knew this was all a pose, but he never fully let loose until yesterday when he vented his rage at and his contempt for his opponents, and after a defeat in the most traditional of all liberal causes, gun control. It’s amazing how he believes that everyone else in Washington engages in politics except for him, even though the way he reacted after Newtown was textbook political exploitation of a tragedy–using the victims and their families to the maximum extent possible and pursuing policy goals that he’d always favored but that wouldn’t have prevented the shooting. In his own mind, he’s the brave and sincere one, and everyone opposed to him is an insincere coward. We already knew all of this about him, but it was revealing all the same.

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On the surface it was about the shellacking gun control laws took in the Senate. Make no mistake: while this was a policy loss for Obama, it was also much, much more.

It was the moment the bully gets popped in the nose, and the unexpected sensation of shock and pain leaves him aghast. It was the moment, to use a rather apropos analogy, the mugger finds himself starting down the black void of a .45 barrel in the fist of his intended victim.

It was shock that the glowing, constant press coverage, the lockstep drumbeat on the nation’s editorial pages, the hectoring, lecturing rants from Joe Scarborough and Piers Morgan et al., the Bloomberg TV ads featuring the families of Newtown, the vaunted OFA operation’s push, and all the personal phone calls from President Charm Offensive himself couldn’t move the votes.

And that enraged Obama. His sense that he is uniquely persuasive and that once he “takes it to the people” the argument is over, was directly challenged, and he failed.

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Via Mediaite.


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WOW!!!!!

i’m surprised these guys didn’t leave the country…why stay so close by???

they are NOT americans, so tingles and wolfie have to create a new narrative…

but hey al quaeda is dead right????

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:28 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:13 AM

Morning Scrumpy, get some coffee in ya ok?

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:30 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:28 AM

By all accounts, and if what they threw out of vehicle windows at cops was ‘grenades’ and a possible pressure cooker bomb, sounds like they were planning another bombing?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:30 AM

they are either from chechen or turkey

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:30 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:30 AM

Hard to say right now… not going to speculate…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:31 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:30 AM

cripe…and dear leader was there, they could have done something during that service….

shock, I thought morning joe would have said a few words and then return to his gun control rant day 2….

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM

I hope they catch the bastard…
No. 2 is on the loose, I feel for those folks in Watertown…

I pray to God they stay safe…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:15 AM

I pray to God they’re well-armed.

PackerBronco on April 19, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:31 AM

true

was just listening to pete williams…

they are legal permanent residents who have been here for a year apparently….who granted them????

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:34 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:32 AM

I am thinking they came here on Student Visas, stayed at MIT, felt comfortable there, until 5.30pm yesterday… then they had to think about moving and possibly doing somthing on the way out… MIT cop spots them and he is shot multiple times…

I don’t understand why they let the person they hijacked, go?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:35 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:34 AM

How does he know that?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:36 AM

PackerBronco on April 19, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Ditto!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:36 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:35 AM

good question

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:36 AM

have no clue how, unless he has a source?

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:38 AM

holy cow, the #1 had an IED strapped to him when they found him?????

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM

I don’t stop in much anymore, but I am so glad I can stop by and have everything reported to me by some really good reporters ……..
Hey Scrumpy ………..;-)

angrymike on April 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:38 AM

No credible source, not believing it…

FBI will fill us in eventually…

If they are connected to a terror cell, FBI won’t give out too much…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:40 AM

angrymike on April 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM

YOU have been sorely missed!! Good to see you mike :-)

How are you?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Adherents of “the Religion of Peace”? Say it ain’t so!///

About Obama and those Executive Orders…My take.

kingsjester on April 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM

Again who said that?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:41 AM

hmmmmmmmm Pete Williams, CNN or MSNBC?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:40 AM

ok, will stay cool…

it looks like Joe took the day off, he return to his rant on monday i bet…

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM

or CBS? Lol…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:43 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM

msdnc natch
he was irking me on the first day, bringing up this reminds him of atlanta and trying to connect it to a right wing extremist group…

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:44 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:42 AM

No.1 was shot multiple times, he had what a Dr said was possible trunk injuries from an explosive device, nothing else was said…

No one has come forth officially to say anything was strapped to him, so Williams is making shit up!

2 guys sitting on curb handcuffed, wrong place wrong time maybe?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM

IF the other guy has an IED strapped to himself too, there maybe another explosion…

YIKES

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:44 AM

Fox is best to watch for now… IMHO!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 6:24 AM

Hey friend! You never went to bed either did you? :-)

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:26 AM

Scrumpy:

Nope,but soon,and,the next part of this operation is
flushing him out!

What a night,and past four days,catch you later,meantime
heres this Gem,if true,a whole new something,a Jihady
Mercenary!:)
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MIT shooting, April 18, 2013

Both suspects may have foreign military experience, likely to have lived in the United States for around a year – @NBCNews

8 mins ago by editor
===========================

Breaking:

Foreign MilitaryGoons is said to be Russian,from the Chechnya region.

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM

wow

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:46 AM

will do

where’s canopfor? i thought he was just here???

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:47 AM

there’s canopfor :)

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:48 AM

brothers?

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Scrumpy
I’ll be back, the election killed me…..
Im good, especially now that dear leaders plans on ppl control have been stopped, tell the overnight crew, howdy, and “I’ll be back”……………..:-)

angrymike on April 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 6:47 AM

You are a stand up Canadian Citizen!! Yeah go to bed, I logged off, I couldn’t focus doing 2 things!

Am so wide awake now it ain’t funny!

God Bless canopfor and sleep well!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:50 AM

Chechen = Muslem

Somebody gonna be upset. Anybody seen the troll yet, just got here myself.

D-fusit on April 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM

angrymike on April 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM

You got it mike!! Good to see you again :-D
See you later!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh Fox naming names!!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM

Where is Fox getting this news? I can’t do 2 things lol!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:52 AM

This is absolutely unbelievable.

joekenha on April 19, 2013 at 6:53 AM

D-fusit on April 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM

Not yet, they still in bed…lol…

They won’t show now…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Democrats find much to like in immigration bill

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2013/04/democrats-immigration-bill-90319.html#ixzz2QuCfsc4p

in other news….amnesty, here we come

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:53 AM

Just love to stop in and see Canopfor pounding out the info and links………
sleep well Canopfor, my Canadian friend ……….;-)

angrymike on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

If the terrorists are Chechen, expect CNN and MSNBC to label them ‘right-wing fundamentalists’. Without mentioning the exact religion, of course.

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:49 AM

I am sorry! I guess Williams got it right! My bad…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:52 AM

before I turned the channel…

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

I’m waiting for that…

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:55 AM

i like bill hemmer

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:56 AM

I missed it, is Boston shut down now?

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:57 AM

Well,there goes the Lib/Dem/SocialistProTards Grand Illusion,
of the HomeLand Security safety bulletin,of returning War Vets,
who were..(Alledged) RightWingWackos,ready to snap,

and now,the Goons were terrorists,and ahem,Muslim,
and so,there goes that bright Lefty Theory!!!

MIT shooting, April 18, 2013

Surviving Boston bombing suspect named as 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev – @NBCNews, @AP

51 secs ago by editor

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 6:58 AM

I am so hungry! Goona make some toast…

Hold down the fort eh cmsinaz :-D

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:58 AM

Did they find an explosive device?

This guy has on full protective gear!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 6:59 AM

flipping back and forth…

they are speculating that the dude does have an ied strapped to him….he’s going to blow somewhere

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:59 AM

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 6:58 AM

like Liam said, once this is over, the lsm will turn this around to being a right wing group overseas….

will do my best scrumpy :)

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 7:00 AM

MIT shooting, April 18, 2013

Amtrak service between Providence, Rhode Island and Boston suspended due to police activity – @AmtrakNEC

5 mins ago by editor

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 7:01 AM

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:59 AM

No. 2 guy eh?

People who look like these 2 did, wow, they are gonna be fearful to go out…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 7:01 AM

i like bill hemmer

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:56 AM

Yes, A real improvement over Shep.

esr1951 on April 19, 2013 at 7:02 AM

If the terrorists are Chechen, expect CNN and MSNBC to label them ‘right-wing fundamentalists’. Without mentioning the exact religion, of course.

Liam on April 19, 2013 at 6:54 AM

Well the left got their wish, they were caucasian. The only problem, of course, is that they were not associated with the Tea Party Movement (Morning Joe hardest hit). If this is truly the identity of the bombers (the press has been notoriously wrong about this story every step of the way) we still have a long way to go to understand why Chechens would be here- unless they happen to be card carrying members of the religion of peace. But it is unfair to make that speculation at this time.

Happy Nomad on April 19, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Yes, A real improvement over Shep.

esr1951 on April 19, 2013 at 7:02 AM

An empty chair would be an improvement over Shep- Rachael Madcow’s example of a fair anchor on FNC (really). Shep would likely jump from coverage of this manhunt to a car chase in Los Angeles.

Happy Nomad on April 19, 2013 at 7:06 AM

Things are expanding! Bus loads pouring in now…

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Happy don’t forget tingles and wolfie :)

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 7:12 AM

logging off for a spell…

God Bless folks!! later!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 7:12 AM

Stand by for today’s lecture from sesqui about ethnicity and nationality.

kingsjester on April 19, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 7:12 AM

thanks buddy

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 7:16 AM

kingsjester on April 19, 2013 at 7:16 AM

no doubt

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 7:17 AM

KJ, was thinking the same. Where oh where is you sesqui, come defend yourself.

D-fusit on April 19, 2013 at 7:22 AM

we still have a long way to go to understand why Chechens would be here- unless they happen to be card carrying members of the religion of peace. But it is unfair to make that speculation at this time.

Happy Nomad on April 19, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Just a reminder that is was in Chechnya where terrorists craving innocent blood shot up a school full of children….

Don L on April 19, 2013 at 7:52 AM

Don L on April 19, 2013 at 7:52 AM

And Youtubed the cutting of a young captured Russian Soldier’s throat for all to see, holding him down and sawing through it with a serrated edge if memory serves.

MarshFox on April 19, 2013 at 7:57 AM

logging off for a spell…

God Bless folks!! later!

Scrumpy on April 19, 2013 at 7:12 AM

.
What were you still doing. awake ?: O

listens2glenn on April 19, 2013 at 8:24 AM

Congress can’t make my neighborhood safer just like it didn’t make the Boston Marathon safer. What’s next for them, regulating pressure cookers? After 911, they came to all the fertilizer mfgrs and had them beef up security around the plants, and had sellers notice large sales to unknown persons. This hasn’t stopped the bombings, either. They tell us if we see something to say something. This means they can’t protect us all the time so we better be ready to take care of ourselves.

Kissmygrits on April 19, 2013 at 10:31 AM

holy cow, the #1 had an IED strapped to him when they found him?????

cmsinaz on April 19, 2013 at 6:39 AM

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This may explain the heavy coats and hoodies during the marathon… Their backup plan in case of discovery may have been vest bombs, and the winter dress would definitely help hide the bulk of those bombs.

RalphyBoy on April 19, 2013 at 11:12 AM

And why is opposing the will of the majority a mark of “cowardice,” as Giffords says, rather than a mark of courage?

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Because she is full of crap. They all know they were selling another HC type over-kill Bill… but one designed to ‘f’ up Americans’ ability to choose to how to defend themselves…

And they know that what they were pushing is not supported by the masses. The sweet talk about it might have some strong support, but the sh*t they wrote into the hundreds of pages is not. We don’t trust them at all anymore.

Everything they say is woven with lies at this point. EVERYTHING.

RalphyBoy on April 19, 2013 at 11:21 AM

Gun control advocates have told me the assault weapons ban was intended to be a bargaining chip. Ask for the moon, settle for less—in this case, universal background checks. If that was the strategy, it backfired. For most of February and March, gun advocates focused their criticisms on the assault weapons ban. They correctly observed that it outlawed guns but did nothing to keep outlaws from having guns. And they used the time to organize their base, comprised largely of gun owners who love the AR-15 and its variations. Many gun owners might have supported background checks had they not been distracted by the assault weapons issue, which caused them to distrust gun control proponents even more than before.

So they pushed for an assault weapons ban, hoping to force a compromise. Instead, they caused a pushback. And there’s the backfire.

This is significant, because the progressives are always pushing for something, and pushback is always a distinct possibility. A good example is same sex marriage, which we are told over and over and over again is inevitable. But we were told the same thing about gun control regulations: that the public was in favor of it and it was going to happen.

In the case of same sex marriage, the master plan of forcing all states to accept unnatural same sex marriage by having one or two states adopt it hit a serious backfire: the majority of states now have added to their state constitution that same sex marriage is specifically prohibited. 38 states have some kind of law defining marriage as between a man and a woman. For 32 states, it’s now in their constitution. About half of the remaining states allow civil unions, but not marriage. To push through a law at this point mandating same sex marriage would clearly be letting the few dictate to the many, and make a mockery of states rights.

Which is why they want to get the Supreme Court to overrule everybody and just mandate it.

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 19, 2013 at 11:42 AM

9) Only in America …could people claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when they have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black while only 12% of the population is black.

KCB on April 18, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Remember when they tried to claim the poor black college professor was discriminated against by a white police officer … in a city with a black mayor … in a state with a black governor … in a nation with a black president?

“The Cambridge police acted stupidly”

Yeah … not as stupidly as certain politicians.

There Goes the Neighborhood on April 19, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Stand by for today’s lecture from sesqui about ethnicity and nationality.

kingsjester on April 19, 2013 at 7:16 AM

…he’s busy sequestering his sperm…that’s way I call him spermsequestration…maybe it should be spermcastration !

KOOLAID2 on April 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

The four-month delay enabled the NRA to rally its troops—and, more importantly, its allies in Congress.

This idea of designing bills in the back room by 6 or 8 politicians and then ramming it through congress a half hour later has to stop. Let’s get back to regular order and stay there like the Founders designed it to work. Public Debate is necessary!

Herb on April 20, 2013 at 9:42 AM

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