Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

[Q]uestions of why the Democratic leadership pushed a bill to the floor that ultimately fell five votes short had some whispering about poor planning. “There is going to be a lot of hindsighting,” said Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who represents Newtown. He didn’t count himself among the critics, though. “We had to have a vote at some point, and I think now is as good a time as any, and we’re just going to be determined and keep fighting.”…

What became clear Wednesday evening is that any momentum the gun-control movement had had in the wake of the Newtown tragedy had been stalled. Democrats remain heartened that the public overwhelmingly agrees with them on the issue of background checks. But they acknowledged that hopes for swift action have devolved into a longer legislative slog.

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Gun control advocates have told me the assault weapons ban was intended to be a bargaining chip. Ask for the moon, settle for less—in this case, universal background checks. If that was the strategy, it backfired. For most of February and March, gun advocates focused their criticisms on the assault weapons ban. They correctly observed that it outlawed guns but did nothing to keep outlaws from having guns. And they used the time to organize their base, comprised largely of gun owners who love the AR-15 and its variations. Many gun owners might have supported background checks had they not been distracted by the assault weapons issue, which caused them to distrust gun control proponents even more than before.

The proposal to ban assault weapons also led to the Senate spending precious time holding hearings on the merits of the ban. Given this proposal was going nowhere, why waste the time? If President Obama had pushed for a law only requiring universal background checks—maybe coupled with the NRA’s proposal for more funding for school security—he might have been able to persuade Congress to consider his proposals in February, when Newtown was fresher in our collective memory.

The four-month delay enabled the NRA to rally its troops—and, more importantly, its allies in Congress.

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[T]he GOP controlled House was clearly unwilling to pass serious gun control legislation. Anything that got through the Senate would have to be even further watered down in order to get through the House. The administration no doubt hoped that the vote would be a tough one for blue state Republicans and help whip up the base for 2014, but it’s hard to see a serious person being convinced that this legislative process was going to end up making substantial changes in American gun policy.

A principled senator who truly believed that his or her vote on a gun control law would make a real difference on the ground might choose to stake an entire career on one vote. But if the vote in question were more an act of symbolism and sham that real substance, the equation is very different. Is there really any point in throwing your political career away in order to give a few days’ passing satisfaction to New York Times editorial writers?

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Toomey, who threw his political weight into working with his Senate friend Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., on a compromise to expand background checks to commercial firearms sales over the Internet and at gun shows, said that for him it’s time to move on.

“I did the best I could. I wish it had passed, but the Senate has spoken and these things happen,” Toomey told The Morning Call immediately after the vote on his amendment. “It’s always worth it to do the right thing … no regrets.”

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Speaking is physically difficult for me. But my feelings are clear: I’m furious. I will not rest until we have righted the wrong these senators have done, and until we have changed our laws so we can look parents in the face and say: We are trying to keep your children safe. We cannot allow the status quo — desperately protected by the gun lobby so that they can make more money by spreading fear and misinformation — to go on.

I am asking every reasonable American to help me tell the truth about the cowardice these senators demonstrated. I am asking for mothers to stop these lawmakers at the grocery store and tell them: You’ve lost my vote. I am asking activists to unsubscribe from these senators’ e-mail lists and to stop giving them money. I’m asking citizens to go to their offices and say: You’ve disappointed me, and there will be consequences…

Mark my words: if we cannot make our communities safer with the Congress we have now, we will use every means available to make sure we have a different Congress, one that puts communities’ interests ahead of the gun lobby’s. To do nothing while others are in danger is not the American way.

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In Giffords’ view, these senators are two-faced, because you cannot truly sympathize with her unless you vote for the bills she supports. But I am a little confused about the purported motivation for this perceived betrayal. Obama and Giffords both insist the senators who voted against new gun controls did so not out of conviction but out of fear—specifically, fear that they would be defeated the next time they run for re-election. If their constituents “overwhelmingly favored expanding background checks,” however, wouldn’t voting for the bill mandating those have been the politically expedient thing to do? And why is opposing the will of the majority a mark of “cowardice,” as Giffords says, rather than a mark of courage?

Furthermore, why would senators be afraid of “the gun lobby” unless they think it can sway voters against them? Isn’t that ultimately the source of the NRA’s fearsome power? But if voters are so easily manipulated, why should we be impressed by majority support for expanded background checks or any other gun control measure? I suspect that Giffords credits the majority with wisdom only when the polls are going her way, just as she credits politicians with integrity only when they agree with her.

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If this doesn’t demonstrate the limitations of the president’s political muscle and the influence of his newly minted Organizing for Action lobbying group, I don’t know what does. Yet, despite the embarrassing setback, Obama nonetheless argued that he still held the upper hand, politically: “If this Congress refuses to listen to the American people and pass commonsense gun legislation, then the real impact is going to have to come from the voters.” That couldn’t misread the political environment heading into 2014 anymore. That’s the audacity of mope.

Put simply, the 2014 Senate elections will be fought predominantly on the very turf that is most inhospitable to gun control–Southern and Mountain West conservative states. It’s no coincidence that three of the four Democrats who opposed the Toomey-Manchin bill are facing difficult reelections in 2014 and presumably are attuned to the sentiments of their constituents. Blame the National Rifle Association for the bill’s failure, but the lobby is feeding into already deeply held opposition to gun regulations and a broader sense of anxiety about the president’s and New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s intentions–particularly given the president’s past publicized remark about “bitter” rural voters who “cling to their guns and religion.” It doesn’t take much for the gun-rights crowd, significant in these states, to jump to inaccurate conclusions given that history.

And how do the White House or allied groups plan on punishing gun-control opponents? The notion of challenging the Second Amendment Democrats is as fanciful as it is self-defeating. Democratic primary voters in the deep South have significantly different views on gun rights than their coastal counterparts. Even if they support expanded background checks, the chance of landing a candidate running a one-issue campaign against brand-name Democrats like Mark Pryor and Mark Begich defies common sense.

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What was so extraordinary about the president’s performance yesterday is that this is the version of himself he’s always tried to keep under wraps. He made his career on sounding reasonable, positioning himself as the middle between two extremes, pretending to afford respect for the arguments of his opponents, and never, ever showing anger. You always knew this was all a pose, but he never fully let loose until yesterday when he vented his rage at and his contempt for his opponents, and after a defeat in the most traditional of all liberal causes, gun control. It’s amazing how he believes that everyone else in Washington engages in politics except for him, even though the way he reacted after Newtown was textbook political exploitation of a tragedy–using the victims and their families to the maximum extent possible and pursuing policy goals that he’d always favored but that wouldn’t have prevented the shooting. In his own mind, he’s the brave and sincere one, and everyone opposed to him is an insincere coward. We already knew all of this about him, but it was revealing all the same.

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On the surface it was about the shellacking gun control laws took in the Senate. Make no mistake: while this was a policy loss for Obama, it was also much, much more.

It was the moment the bully gets popped in the nose, and the unexpected sensation of shock and pain leaves him aghast. It was the moment, to use a rather apropos analogy, the mugger finds himself starting down the black void of a .45 barrel in the fist of his intended victim.

It was shock that the glowing, constant press coverage, the lockstep drumbeat on the nation’s editorial pages, the hectoring, lecturing rants from Joe Scarborough and Piers Morgan et al., the Bloomberg TV ads featuring the families of Newtown, the vaunted OFA operation’s push, and all the personal phone calls from President Charm Offensive himself couldn’t move the votes.

And that enraged Obama. His sense that he is uniquely persuasive and that once he “takes it to the people” the argument is over, was directly challenged, and he failed.

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Via Mediaite.


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If they were grenades then they were for another operation, not for running away from police.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 2:30 AM

Yeah, they wouldn’t be just hanging out on the campus of M.I.T. with grenades.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Andrew Kitzenburg, 29, said he looked out of this third floor window to see two young men of slight build in jackets shooting at dozens of police officers from behind a black Mercedes SUV. The officers and the men were 70 yards apart, he said, and engaged in “constant gunfire.”
A police SUV “drove towards the shooters,” he said, and was shot at until it was severely damaged. It rolled out of control, Mr. Kitzenberg said, and crashed into two cars in his driveway.
The two shooters, he said, had a large and unwieldy bomb. “They lit it, still in the middle of the gunfire, and threw it. But it went 20 yards at most.” It exploded, he said, and one of the two men ran towards the gathered police officers. He was tackled, but it was not clear if he was shot, Mr. Kitzenberg said.
The other, he said, got back into the SUV, turned it toward the officers and “put the pedal to the metal.” The car “went right through the cops, broke right through and continued west.”
The two men left “a few backpacks right by the car, and there is a bomb robot out there now.” Police had told residents to stay away from their windows, he said.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Some lib on twitter about this says we need more gun control.

Yes, as if that would stop these guys because we all know terrorists follow the law.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:34 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Wow.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Some lib on twitter about this says we need more gun control.

Yes, as if that would stop these guys because we all know terrorists follow the law.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:34 AM

If these guys, in fact, have machine guns and hand grenades, something tells me a background check wouldn’t have stopped them.

But I bet those Watertown residents right now wish they were armed…

JohnGalt23 on April 19, 2013 at 2:37 AM

EDIT 2:26 EST: OFFICER ASSIST 04/19/13 01:27 (WATERTOWN – ) UPDATE:2 PIPE BOMBS IN THE ROADWAY- 1 BEING NEUTRALIZED- 2ND LIVE- AREA BEING EVACUATED. [MAS163] -http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1221

EDIT 2:26 EST: Backdoor found opened. Police searching the area. Handgun mag found.

EDIT 2:27 EST: Reports of shots fired at Aberdeen & Mr. Auburn.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:37 AM

PD at scene not confirming Globe statement to reporters there

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Some lib on twitter about this says we need more gun control.

Yes, as if that would stop these guys because we all know terrorists follow the law.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:34 AM

In Israel, someone on the street with a gun would have taken these guys out long before the cops even got there. That’s why the palis only used suicide bombers there. Anything else was stopped pretty quickly.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 2:39 AM

FBI has straight on shots of both bombers. Really clear. Best I have seen. Totally show face close up. Real close.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:41 AM

JohnGalt23 on April 19, 2013 at 2:37 AM
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Exactly.

FWIW, someone on twitter said this guy is a tweet feed of those who are actually there in the area.

https://twitter.com/dannysullivan/watertown

They do seem to have info, and it’s not cluttered up with retweets on old stuff.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:42 AM

local TV news now saying

State Police: “We have two suspects accounted for in Watertown.” Believe explosives were used on police.

@seankellyTV

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:43 AM

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:37 AM

If that wasn’t crazy enough the observer had bullets go trough his chair and the wall.

Check it out.

http://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/explosion-at-finish-line-of-boston-marathon.121535/page-104

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Grenades, pipe bombs, rifles, handguns . . . who are these guys?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:43 AM

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Obvious they had training. Armed to the teeth.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:44 AM

white cap guy still at large

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Perp #1 has a hooked nose or bump near bridge of the nose. Looks MEastern to me.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:46 AM

The whole suburb of Watertown has been turned into a war zone.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:46 AM

We already know perp #2 has a huge nose.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:47 AM

Grenades, pipe bombs, rifles, handguns . . . who are these guys?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:43 AM

They’re not your local Presbyterians, that’s for sure.

I’ve checked out some of the names on this smaller feed, and they do seem to be Boston area. Some are reporters on the scene.

https://twitter.com/dannysullivan/watertown

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:48 AM

Wait till the new FBI closeups are published. Straight on closeups. They will be everywhere. You will be able to ID them no problem.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM

Donald R. Winslow ‏@donaldrwinslow 1 m

#MITshooting #BostonMarathon Police just told other officers on scanner that the missing suspect is the “one in the white hat in the photos”

Donald R. Winslow
@donaldrwinslow

Editor of News Photographer magazine for the National Press Photographers Association. Writer, photojournalist, runner, and sometimes teacher. magazine@nppa.org

http://www.nppa.org

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM

I mean these are from the marathon. Not the events tonight.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Wesley Lowery ‏@WesleyLowery 2m

Police on the scene have stressed from the very beginning that they fear suspect has access to phone-triggered IEDs

Wesley Lowery
@WesleyLowery

@BostonGlobe political reporter, @NABJ board member. Tweets race, politics & journalism. R&B head. Chappelle addict. The Wire enthusiast.

Boston, Mass · http://wesleylowery.com

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:52 AM

Wesley Lowery ‏@WesleyLowery 35s

Local here telling stories of being pulled from houses. Each person in homes being laid on ground, questioned by officers

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

We already know perp #2 has a huge nose.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 2:47 AM

I think we can leave obsessing over racial identity to brainfreeordie. My says homegrown jihadis, but whoever they turn out to be may they have very unpleasant remaining days before spending an eternity in Hell.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:51 AM

Okay, now WFXT, being fed through Fox, confirms that suspect 2, white hat, is the suspect who is still at large from this scene.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

My [gut] says…

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 2:53 AM

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

here’s pix of that Brown guy with a little description

some Che going on there too…if it is the white hat guy

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

Multiple explosives, military grade, involved there in Watertown. Geez.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:56 AM

Okay, now WFXT, being fed through Fox, confirms that suspect 2, white hat, is the suspect who is still at large from this scene.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

Yeah, there are always contradictions with this kind of thing.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:57 AM

BPD scanner has identified the names : Suspect 1: Mike Mulugeta Suspect 2: Sunil Tripathi

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM

Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik 56s

wow! the 2nd suspect they are saying is the missing Brown student.

?? I’ve missed news on a Brown student.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM

I’m going to speculate: I think we’re dealing with the two suspects identified today, as well as a larger cell. There’s one guy in custody right now, and the white hat guy (they say) is the one still at large. I’m just thinking that one guy, there in Watertown, can’t be causing all this mayhem.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:59 AM

EDIT 2:56 EST: Police confirm MIT and Bombers are connected.

Not sure if its true. Got it from here.

http://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/explosion-at-finish-line-of-boston-marathon.121535/page-108

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:00 AM

There sure as hell are more than just 2 people in this cell. These two guys are just the face of the operation but there is, undoubtedly, much more underneath. Where were they living? Where did they pick up the pressure cooker bombs? Where were the other explosives kept? The guns? …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:00 AM

Brian D’Amico ‏@brianjdamico 44s

MSP spokes: now saying they can only confirm. ONE suspect accounts for, one at large considered to be armed.

****

That’s not reassuring if you’re there in Watertown.

Residents tomorrow will all go buy their own guns.

INC on April 19, 2013 at 3:00 AM

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 2:59 AM

You beat me to it. I like the way you think :)

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

LOL. It’s going to be hilarious if this bomber really is an Ivy Leaguer.

Mark1971 on April 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

here’s pix of that Brown guy with a little description

some Che going on there too…if it is the white hat guy

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:54 AM

No. They don’t look alike at all to me. I have seen the new FBI closeups. White hat is not Sunils.

Police official just said that MIT incident and bombing are very likely connected.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:03 AM

BPD scanner has identified the names : Suspect 1: Mike Mulugeta Suspect 2: Sunil Tripathi

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM

A quick search on the name Mike Mulugeta brings up a middle aged black man that looks nothing like the photos that have been released so far.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:03 AM

LOL. It’s going to be hilarious if this bomber really is an Ivy Leaguer.

Mark1971 on April 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

Yep, trying to pass the practicum portion of their class.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:03 AM

BPD scanner has identified the names : Suspect 1: Mike Mulugeta Suspect 2: Sunil Tripathi

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 2:58 AM

A quick search on the name Mike Mulugeta brings up a middle aged black man that looks nothing like the photos that have been released so far.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:03 AM

That was a snark IMHO from another website.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:05 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

Now the FBI is saying the suspect in custody is NOT one of the identified bombers. Who knows?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:05 AM

“Explosives are everywhere.”

Quote from a police source on the TV feed.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:05 AM

FBI is saying Man in custody from MIT is not one of the bombing suspects….

WTH?

Got it from here

http://www.the-mainboard.com/index.php?threads/explosion-at-finish-line-of-boston-marathon.121535/page-108

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM

LOL. It’s going to be hilarious if this bomber really is an Ivy Leaguer.

Mark1971 on April 19, 2013 at 3:01 AM

Bill Ayers and other domestic terrorists are professors right?

El_Terrible on April 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM

Looks like local news in Boston is finally admitting that ‘the suspect in the white hat’ is the one who is still at large.

This means, of course, since they are using the photos from the Marathon provided by the FBI as the source for the ‘… the suspect in the white hat.’ that this is confirmation that the link between the Marathon bombing and these two individuals has been confirmed.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:07 AM

Now the FBI is saying the suspect in custody is NOT one of the identified bombers. Who knows?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:05 AM

Certainly not the FBI … Whoever it is, he’s obviously connected to the marathon bombing cell.

I can’t say I have much faith in the FBI.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

I think the police have stumbled on a much larger cell and conspiracy than just the two guys who were identified today.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

Bill Ayers and other domestic terrorists are professors right?

El_Terrible on April 19, 2013 at 3:06 AM

Maybe they recently got their “careers” started at Ayers’ kitchen table.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

I wonder if anyone has gotten Kerry out of bed, yet.

We all know no one gets Obama out of bed.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

https://twitter.com/mikemulugeta

this is the mikemulugeta they are talking about but not sure he is involved.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:09 AM

I wonder if anyone has gotten Kerry out of bed, yet.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

No way. Yesterday you only had to worry about students with guns… now they got grenades and bombs too. He ain’t having none of that.

El_Terrible on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

@lukerussert is getting a little nervous

It’s still early w unconfirmed scanner reports but if Redit was right with the Sunil Tripathi theory, it’s changed the game 4ever

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

State wouldn’t have anything to do with this. However, did they get Holder and Nappi out of bed.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:07 AM

Yes, definitely more than one source has identified white hat guy as being involved here.

I can’t say I have much faith in the FBI.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:08 AM

I don’t either. I have much more faith in the local police.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

It’s still early w unconfirmed scanner reports but if Redit was right with the Sunil Tripathi theory, it’s changed the game 4ever

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

Why? The only group that can be tarred and feather for the actions of a single individual is the tea party. Our “betters” will go ahead with what they want regardless of the consequences to us proles.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:12 AM

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 3:10 AM

It doesn’t look like him IMHO. I thought it was too but the new photos show faces. it don’t look like sunil

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:13 AM

http://news.brown.edu/files/images/Tripathi1_0.medium.jpg

Tripathi in a Che shirt.

Mark1971 on April 19, 2013 at 3:13 AM

I am definitely wrong. Sorry. It could be sunil.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:15 AM

From the Twitter feed:

Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik 1m

FYI, the missing Brown student was born in the United States. Bryn Mawr, PA.

As if that means something … like the guy’s a “real American” and not a jihadi animal (assuming bomber #2 is Sunil Tripathi) or something.

Sheesh. This Skolnick guy probably doesn’t understand what it REALLY means.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:15 AM

Sunil Trapathi</

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

https://twitter.com/LulzGhost/status/325104591203098625/photo/1

this pic of him (Sunil Brown student) in the green shirt on the right looks like number #2 white cap in the new FBI closeup.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

Quick pop in:

With such heavy Police/Swat teams,I`m thinking BostonBomberGoons,
ditched there car,high-jacked a car,and the Entire Task Force were
on hot pursuit,and then Sh*t-Hit-The-fan!

FBI,is being careful,what to say!

Armored vehicle with SWAT team hanging on side racing down Arsenal Street in Watertown looking for suspect – @SeanKellyTV

2 mins ago by editor
=========================

FBI comments on Watertown shootings: ‘We are engaged with our partners trying to determine if there is a connection’ [to Boston] – @CNNBrk

28 mins ago by editor

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

Strong resemblance.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

WCVB-TV Boston ‏@WCVB 32s

WCVB Designer Shane Windstorm says a Special Ops truck is now set up in front of his Watertown house

???

Does he mean SWAT team?

INC on April 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Would they just publish the freaking latest closeups of both bombers. They are really good. #2 looks like Sunil even more than before.

Sorry I was confused.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:17 AM

Strong resemblance.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Very very strong. Him in the green “BEAT” shirt loks just like the latest FBI front closeup of #2.

I say its him..

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:21 AM

canopfor on April 19, 2013 at 3:18 AM

Well, this all began when an M.I.T. campus copy was shot and killed. That happened at about 10:30 pm.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Yep.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:19 AM

Have you seen the new closeups? Miles better than whats in here

https://twitter.com/LulzGhost/status/325104591203098625/photo/1

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

*campus COP, not copy. Sheesh, I’m getting tired.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

FBI CLOSEUPS OF TWO SUSPECTS

Scroll down a bit…it’s on the left.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

reports that suspect 1 (not white cap guy) is dead.

hope that’s wrong…like to see him go to trial…then to jail for an extended visit

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

I think we are going to need to pass some legislation to protect us from Ivy League philosophy majors. Enough is enough!

Mark1971 on April 19, 2013 at 3:24 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:22 AM

Checked it out when you first posted it.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Man identified as a suspect by Boston PD, Sunil Tripathi, is a left-wing Marxist of Brahmin Indian decent. #tcot pic.twitter.com/aJOIZJedKx

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:24 AM

A Facebook page set up by Tripathi’s family about his disappearance was taken down around 11 p.m. tonight

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:25 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:24 AM

Is there such a thing as a right-wing Marxist? :P

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:27 AM

More silliness from this Skolnick dude on the twitter feed:

Michael Skolnik ‏@MichaelSkolnik 1m

The missing Brown university student is Indian-American, not Middle Eastern.

This Skolnick guy knows that some of the worst islamic terror groups are in India, right? He has some knowledge of that huge jihadi attack in Mumbai … and the attack on the Indian parliament … A little knowledge?

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:27 AM

reports that suspect 1 (not white cap guy) is dead.

hope that’s wrong…like to see him go to trial…then to jail for an extended visit

r keller on April 19, 2013 at 3:23 AM

Where is that being reported?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:28 AM

Where is that being reported?

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:28 AM

Some lady speaking to the Boston TV station said she heard cops say that.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:24 AM

If he turns out to be part of this then I’m leaning towards OWS and/or reprisal of Weather Underground types.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:25 AM

Joking aside, this would be another OWS type committing a terrorist action. If that turns out to be the case leftist heads will explode.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

Well, I’m glad we have access to local news right now. I don’t trust agenda-driven Big Media.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Hi, peeps.

tommy71 on April 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 19, 2013 at 3:27 AM

A valid point. These guys could be ‘homegrown’ terrorists, however if this is the work of a cell, of which they may have been part, there could easily be multiple nations and nationalities involved.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Is there such a thing as a right-wing Marxist? :P

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:27 AM

Don’t give them ideas.

Punchenko on April 19, 2013 at 3:32 AM

tommy71 on April 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Hello, Tommy71.

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:33 AM

WFXT again reporting that suspect 1 has been captured. (still conflicting with FBI)

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:33 AM

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:25 AM

Joking aside, this would be another OWS type committing a terrorist action. If that turns out to be the case leftist heads will explode.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

Absolutely. Squidy will implode.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:34 AM

thatsafactjack on April 19, 2013 at 3:31 AM

From all that’s happened so far, I think we’re definitely dealing with more than just the two identified earlier.

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

So whats the topic? The crazed terrorist?

tommy71 on April 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

Absolutely. Squidy will implode.

SparkPlug on April 19, 2013 at 3:34 AM

would explain it away as an aberration while maintaining all right-wing nutters are capable of extreme violence.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:36 AM

Joking aside, this would be another OWS type committing a terrorist action. If that turns out to be the case leftist heads will explode.

NotCoach on April 19, 2013 at 3:29 AM

It would be bad karma.

Punchenko on April 19, 2013 at 3:36 AM

So whats the topic? The crazed terrorist?

tommy71 on April 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

Chaos in Watertown, MA, involving officers down, hand grenades, pipe bombs, handguns, rifles, you name it!

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:37 AM

TarheelBen on April 19, 2013 at 3:35 AM

Odds for that are looking better and better.

chemman on April 19, 2013 at 3:37 AM

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