Open thread: FBI press conference on Boston bombings; Update: Photos and video added; Update: Do cops have the names? Update: New pic discovered?

posted at 4:41 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

5 p.m. ET, all across the dial. The feds announced this morning that they’re planning to release images of the two suspects from the surveillance video sometime today. Presumably that means at the presser itself or shortly before or after; once they’re online, they’ll be posted below. A key detail via the Globe: “The official said that the two suspects were seen separately on videotape — one at each of the two bombing sites, which are located about a block apart.” That’s one thing that bothered me about the people being scrutinized in the Reddit photos. In at least two cases, the two “suspects” were standing right next to each other, conversing. If you and a partner were looking to bomb something and not get caught, rule one would/should be to avoid each other at the site itself so as not to make things easier for the cops later, right?

Speaking of which, the two guys I wrote about this morning (“White Cap” and “Track Suit”) have now been cleared by police. Track Suit turns out to be a 17-year-old kid who’s into running. That’s why he was at the marathon. While we wait for the FBI, here’s a recap in chart form of yesterday’s media meltdown over whether anyone had been arrested. Stand by for updates.

Update: Steve Emerson told Sean Hannity last night that ICE is planning to deport the Saudi national whom cops initially investigated as a person of interest in the bombing, then cleared. Per the Blaze, Emerson said it was on “national security grounds.” Other sources confirmed Emerson’s claim for the Blaze and basically allege that something suspicious is going on, not just with the Saudi but with his associates. But an ICE official told BuzzFeed this afternoon that it’s not true: The Saudi in the hospital isn’t being deported, a different Saudi national is. And that guy supposedly has nothing to do with the bombing. The Blaze later updated to note that its sources now say ICE has reconsidered and might not deport the Saudi in the hospital. How much of this is true and whether it has anything to do with the bombing is unclear at the moment, but there you go.

Update: Yep, images on the way.

Update: Fox Boston has one of the photos that the FBI’s planning to release at 5. All I can make out is the backwards white cap and the fact that the guy appears to be standing near a mailbox, possibly the same one that was seen in those photos released yesterday of a mysterious bag. If you’ve seen that guy in any of the hundreds of marathon photos floating around online, e-mail us.

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Update: The FBI’s posted multiple photos of the two suspects at its website. To my surprise, the two were together — but maybe not obviously “together” judging from the surveillance footage. The guy in the white cap, at least, looks very young, possibly even a teenager. I don’t remember them from any of the online photos I looked at yesterday but the black cap worn by the second suspect does look vaguely familiar.

Neither one drops a bag so there must be other video they’re not releasing yet.

Update: Here’s one that caught my eye a few days ago. This isn’t Black Cap, isn’t it? The pants, coat, and bag all look sort of right, but the hat seems lighter in this pic than in the vid. And there’s no white shirt here.

4c

Update: Silly mistake on my part: Ed points out via e-mail that this pic was taken after the blast, per the broken window on the right. Unless Black Cap was hanging out close by, which would be nutty, that’s not him.

Update: Someone in Reddit’s thread on this notes, apparently correctly, that Black Cap is wearing a Bridgestone golf cap.

Update: What’s that symbol on the side of White Cap’s hat? It looks like a “T” but with the right side of the letter lighter than the left side.

Update: More from the Reddit thread: White Cap might be wearing a Polo hat.

It doesn’t look like a “3″ in the side-view photo but it does in the slightly overhead surveillance video. Maybe it’s the number “7″ instead?

Update: Sure looks like a Reddit user inadvertently caught Black Cap on film — from the back, alas.

Update: From CBS:

CBS News correspondent John Miller explained why these two people are believed by the FBI to be possible suspects: “They have other video, including the one Orr referenced, where they believe they actually have on tape one of the suspects in the white baseball cap putting the bomb down in front of the Starbucks at the second location. But reason they selected the pictures we’re seeing here is they wanted to find the pictures that didn’t have the most sinister activity but the pictures that gave people the best chance of recognizing them.”

Update: Big news, if true:

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

Update: Actually, is that Black Cap in the last pic? It’s definitely White Cap — and I don’t see his backpack, post-blast — but the white part on Black Cap’s hat might not match up to the hat in the FBI photos.

Why were these guys in close proximity after the bombings? Didn’t they plant them a block or so apart?


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Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Ever been called a “teabagger” to your face? Me neither.

Still hoping, though… I keep the bail money handy.

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Which has a connection to Boston how?

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Perhaps you should ask the poster on this thread who accused me of fantasizing about underage children. I didn’t introduce this topic to this thread.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

You guys had zero clue what was going on and made fools of yourselves with your idiotic predictions.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

How’s that gun control thing working out for you? And how ’bout those O-care exchanges, let alone actual implementation? Super progress on the global warming/cooling/tornadic man-bear-pig thing, too.

But I guess you do win on the whole food-stamp, welfare dependency thing, so there’s that …

M240H on April 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

But you were talking about in the context of older men with these children. With references to 14 year olds.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

petunia on April 18, 2013 at 7:23 PM

The clothes don’t fit and are brand new. Maybe bought from one place all at the same time?

ROCnPhilly on April 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

That was my thought too. Maybe purchased at a store(s) in the Boston area.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

Sometimes I hesitate to ask such questions because I’m afraid of how they will answer. The mind of a leftist can be a dark, nasty place full of death and hate. And spiders.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Click on Steven Bognar’s name. He has clarified his tweet with another saying that the police has LEADS on possible names of the people in the photos.

TeaTrekkie on April 18, 2013 at 7:52 PM

A WHITE MALE.
Dems/liberals win big.
 
gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

How is domestic terrorism a good thing, much less a big win for you?
 
rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

 
We’re waiting, gumbyandpokey.
 
Tell us what dems/liberals won when that first grader’s leg was shredded violently away from her body as she watched her 8 year old brother dying from ball bearings piercing his body.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Anyway, the appearance of those two guys could lead them to being just about any ethnic background except black. They’re either Middle Eastern, White, Mediterranean . The pictures just aren’t clear enough.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

AH_C on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

Thanks! Good info. Showing my age again. To me batteries are batteries.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Perhaps you should ask the poster on this thread who accused me of fantasizing about underage children. I didn’t introduce this topic to this thread.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

yeah, we’ve all seen the archived quotes … you are one creepy mofo …

M240H on April 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Which has a connection to Boston how?

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Perhaps you should ask the poster on this thread who accused me of fantasizing about underage children. I didn’t introduce this topic to this thread.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

You accuse every conservative on this thread of being a racist. Just because you have to leave early for your weekly NAAMBLA meeting is not our problem, libtard. You are a joke here, a play thing.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Steven Bognar ‏@BogsWBZ
CLARIFICATION: sources tell CBS News investigatiors have LEADS on possible names of suspects in video #wbz

These “pulled out of the backside” sources are getting pretty annoying.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

But you were talking about in the context of older men with these children. With references to 14 year olds.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 7:51 PM

Oh OK so first, you’re admitting that you lied when you said I “admitted” to fantasizing about “14 year olds” right? I just need that squared away first.

Second, the story was involving a 16 year old, a person who can consent to sex in 30 states (that’s a majority of them). I said that the laws are arbitrary (they are) that 16 year olds are sexual agents (they are) and that I wasn’t all that upset about a 16 year old and a man in his 30s getting it on because I (and 30 other states) think that 16 is a perfectly fine age of consent. I also fondly. recounted an affair I had with an older guy in my teens. In no way, in NO WAY is that fantasizing about underage children. Disagree with me all you want, but I would appreciate if you would stop posting this slanderous lie. You are supposedly a person who demands respect and honor, could you do your best not to make up horrible lies about others before you claim to deserve some sort of recognition as a decent human? Many thanks!

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

A WHITE MALE.
Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM
How is domestic terrorism a good thing, much less a big win for you?

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

We’re waiting, gumbyandpokey.

Tell us what dems/liberals won when that first grader’s leg was shredded violently away from her body as she watched her 8 year old brother dying from ball bearings piercing his body.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

I asked it what exactly did they win.
Someone mentioned an obamaphone.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Responding to trolls is like trying to shove dog sh!t off the sidewalk with your boot. You probably won’t get rid of it, and probably will get some on you.

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

WHOA!!!

New pic of white hat suspect running from bomb blast. No backpack


From Reddit

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

We’re waiting, gumbyandpokey.

Tell us what dems/liberals won when that first grader’s leg was shredded violently away from her body as she watched her 8 year old brother dying from ball bearings piercing his body.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

G&P took each fresh corpse from Hurricane Sandy and piled them like a ziggurat so he could climb to the top and claim every step up on their deceased bodies correlated to an increase in polling for the dog eater.

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:50 PM

You are sooooooooooooooooo easy.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

yeah, we’ve all seen the archived quotes … you are one creepy mofo …

M240H on April 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

If I ever admitted to fantasizing about a 14 year old, and someone can post it, I will never post here again.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

I do find it extremely interesting, the sleuthing going on the internet. The young men in the black garb and blue running suit were dismissed as probable by many folks I was reading based on picture analysis disputing the kid dropped his bag. It was stuff that was hard to see but once they stated it, it was really pretty clear stuff.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Ethnic lotto:
#1 – Bosnian/Sicilian
#2 – Macedonian/Scotch-Irish

mjbrooks3 on April 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Old/busted:
 

rogerb and his opinion on how gangs rarely use guns (yes, it sound as stupid as you think) oddly absent.
 
lester on December 26, 2012 at 12:16 PM

 
New hotness:
 

These “pulled out of the backside” sources are getting pretty annoying.
 
lester on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:48 PM

You do realize that on Monday three people including a child were killed and hundreds wounded. Just checking because I fail to see how anything about your sexual preferences have relevance in light of that. Just STFU and stop trying to hijack the thread to get away from the left’s disappointment that this hasn’t been pinned on a white tea party conservative. You truly are a disgusting sub-human douche.

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Never will trust anybody that doesn’t know what the front end of a baseball cap looks like.

TexAz on April 18, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Tell us what dems/liberals won when that first grader’s leg was shredded violently away from her body as she watched her 8 year old brother dying from ball bearings piercing his body.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Oooof….that was a punch to the kidneys from Tyson in his early years. I could hear it land where I’m at.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Is anyone considering the OWS people? The attempted Cleveland bombing was about 1 year ago (in April, I believe).

The five men seeking to adversely impact commerce could have killed thousands of Ohio citizens in the process. NewsNet 5 reported on the intricate FBI sting and noted additional plans by the suspects to cause harm to commercial interests in other major cities.

A Wall Street Journal report on the attempted Cleveland bridge bombing notes the alleged domestic terrorists complained repeatedly the movement was not violent enough. The riotous frenzy created during OWS speeches appears to be causing the group to splinter into dangerous subgroups.

These OWS freaks didn’t just disappear. Am I accusing them? No. But they did try a terrorist-style bombing not that long ago. Just saying.

visions on April 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

If I ever admitted to fantasizing about a 14 year old, and someone can post it, I will never post here again.
 
libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

 
That would be what, the sixth or seventh time?

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Never will trust anybody that doesn’t know what the front end of a baseball cap looks like.

TexAz on April 18, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Yep, applies to the dog eater.

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

(Well, that and the possibility that they didn’t hide their faces because they’re not the bombers and had no reason to hide.)

YiZhangZhe on April 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Which becomes less likely with every passing moment.

WryTrvllr on April 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

You do realize that on Monday three people including a child were killed and hundreds wounded. Just checking because I fail to see how anything about your sexual preferences have relevance in light of that.

Yeah…I don’t know why you are raising this concern with me. Hawkdriver accused me of fantasizing about 14 year olds out of the blue on this thread. Shouldn’t you be directing your irritation towards her/him?

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Oh OK so first, you’re admitting that you lied when you said I “admitted” to fantasizing about “14 year olds” right? I just need that squared away first.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

I never lie. Look, I’m trying to back on tract with the subject of the thread. But it’s your own words.

Those of us who went through puberty however know that pretty much from the moment the hormones start flowing you not only know which gender your attracted to, you know which kinds of folks within that gender you’re attracted to. This is particularly easy for guys. It’s called the boner test. If it gives you a boner…you like it.

Now are you honestly going to say with a straight face that every gay guy who at 14 realized they were getting a bone thinking about guys rather than girls “chose” that?

Now lets get past this because it’s pretty settled subject matter.

The thread?

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

OT/

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/04/reuters-publishes-george-soros-obituary-prematurely/

BWAHAHA

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Kind of blew right through the stage in his life where he helped the Nazis round up the Jews didn’t they?

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Why is this thread talking about gay sex?

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM
Kind of blew right through the stage in his life where he helped the Nazis round up the Jews didn’t they?

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Dr. Evil in real life.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

At this point, let’s remember that fact than worrying about the ethnicity or motives of these evil people. Plenty of time for that discussion after they and their co-conspirators are caught (and I don’t think they were acting alone).

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM

No who.
No Why.
So…… Thread’s over, then?

ROCnPhilly on April 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

WHOA!!!

New pic of white hat suspect running from bomb blast. No backpack

From Reddit

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

In front of the older gentleman?

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 8:04 PM

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Hahahahaha really? OK right. I forgot, for conservatives if you *discuss* something sexual you are automatically fantasizing about it. So if a parent talks to their 14 year old child about sex and asks if they are having sexual feelings that parent is automatically “fantasizing” about it. Dear God in heaven I hope you never have kids.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

As I posted at the time, I put my money on domestic non-Islamic nutballs. A Harris/Klebold kind of thing. Idiot white kids. If so, let’s not have any soul-searching on bullying, or any other of their grievances. Contrary to Obama’s insistence that we need to know “why” they did it. We don’t need to know. Don’t pay them any attention, except to put them in jail where they’ll live out their miserable lives.

Paul-Cincy on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

It seems Lib has connected those dots to Boston.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Go away stalker. If you keep repeating the same lie and omitting facts it doesn’t become true.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Why is this thread talking about gay sex?

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

It’s page 7, every thread goes off the rails by page 7.

We could talk about which cheese we would be if we were all cheeses.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

hawk, you played that one perfectly.left the poor in mind and spirit sodomite with nothing left but deflection and ad hominym.

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Now lets get past this because it’s pretty settled subject matter. I couldn’t back up my slanderous lie, and now I’m back tracking faster than Sarah Palin in a CBS interview.

Fixed that for you Hawkdriver dear.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

But you said it.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

That latest pic is obviously photoshopped. The pic of white hat guy is taken from another FBI photo and pasted on.

happytobehere on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

That’s the best photo of white cap’s face I’ve seen…I think it is real…

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Go away stalker. If you keep repeating the same lie and omitting facts it doesn’t become true.
 
lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

 
You don’t understand “stalker”. I’m asking for you to link your proof.
 
You know: “…Omitting facts it doesn’t become true”.
 
Otherwise you’re a liar.
 
And you are.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

Whats with the creepy old guy on the right side laughing?

davemason2k on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I don’t think they were acting alone).

Happy Nomad on April 18, 2013 at 7:45 PM

No, wait! That’s a Who! Thread continues…

ROCnPhilly on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Fixed that for you Hawkdriver dear.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I just posted your own words. You don’t believe what you said anymore?

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Do the good folks at East Georgia need to know that one of their professors is a pedophile?

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Steve Emerson told Sean Hannity last night that ICE is planning to deport the Saudi national whom cops initially investigated as a person of interest in the bombing, then cleared. Per the Blaze, Emerson said it was on “national security grounds.”

.
Yesterday morning, the internet is abuzz yesterday regarding two young men of Middle Eastern origins who “someone inside the investigation” leaked to multiple media sources.

Shortly thereafter, CNN goes down the “they have a suspect in custody road” … while elsewhere:

The Saudi Foreign minister meets with Obama on an unscheduled basis yesterday. The “Saudi national” reportedly comes from a very influential Saudi family. Suddenly, the “Saudi national” is going to be expelled for ‘national security reasons’ – meaning he’s being sent home to his family (which is odd) and then:

The FBI “developed intelligence regarding a second individual” not long after the Saudi FM’s meeting with Obama …

… and poof! there is no suspect in custody, nobody knows nothing …

… so today, the FBI agent releases the photos/videos of “two unnamed suspects” …

… and less than two hours later CBS is leaking the names of the two suspects!

Which is much more acceptable on a realpoltik basis than:

The Saudi FM cuts a deal with Obama telling him the “Saudi national” was not involved but knew who planted the bombs and will provide them to the FBI on the grounds that he be given a cover story (national security risk), sent home and the FBI blows smoke up everbody’s a$$ for 24 hours to create diversions for mass consumption.

Extra points if the FBI “help us identify these men” was intended to make them reach out to their handlers/helpers because the two suspects are already under surveillance six ways from Sunday.

PolAgnostic on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

BTW, lester, all you have to do is stop lying.
 
That’s why you can’t catch me in one. I don’t. I’m consistent. My moral compass works.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Why is this thread talking about gay sex?

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

It’s page 7, every thread goes off the rails by page 7.

We could talk about which cheese we would be if we were all cheeses.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Gumby&Pokey, Libfreeandcry, Lester, Vabulauce, Sesquidpidadoo would all be Frumunda Cheese.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

That would be what, the sixth or seventh time?

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

He will make more come-backs that Tallulah Bankhead,

katy the mean old lady on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

We could talk about which cheese we would be if we were all cheeses.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Definitely Leerdammer.

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

It’s page 7, every thread goes off the rails by page 7.

We could talk about which cheese we would be if we were all cheeses.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Or we could talk about this ()#%R()&#(%& snow.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I love cheese.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I like Swiss.

BeachBum on April 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I would appreciate if you would stop posting this slanderous lie.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

That’s rich coming from a troll who routinely broad brushes many posters on this site with charges of racism.

And who never has the guts to name names and explicitly and directly confront those he is accusing.

And who has already been banned here at least once yet dishonestly posts under a new name. Almost every site I know bans previously banned retreads once discovered. But not this one. You are lucky they keep letting you post here.

You act like as if you think you deserve some respect and consideration. You do not.

Here’s a thought. If you don’t like what you get here in response to what you post why don’t you just leave.

Are you some kind of masochist too? Or do you have a martyr complex?

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

WHOA!!!

New pic of white hat suspect running from bomb blast. No backpack

From Reddit

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

That’s an outstanding picture also because it’s high resolution and you can enlarge the crap out of it. Maybe the best profile of him we have.

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

Where is this picture posted? Did it come from the FBI?

djl130 on April 18, 2013 at 8:10 PM

WHOA!!!

New pic of white hat suspect running from bomb blast. No backpack

From Reddit

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 7:57 PM

Wow, big stuff there. Where’s the backpack indeed.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

One thing this tragedy has taught me – take lots and lots of pictures of the crowd at events like this. You never know when they might come in handy.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

But you said it.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Any honest reader of that quote will recognize that I’m engaging in a debate about the relationship between puberty and when young men become aware of their sexual orientation. That really is that.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Someone has a clear photo of these guys, think of the thousands of photos, somewhere, someone took a photo, and behind him/her are one of these or both of these guys…it is just a matter of finding that needle…

right2bright on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Great, clearish, close up of #2 from Reddit catch here.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Or we could talk about this ()#%R()&#(%& snow.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

I saw that g-girl. WTH. Its almost May. :-)

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Or we could talk about this ()#%R()&#(%& snow.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:08 PM

My yard is clear and green. I put a restraining order on the snow, and when the clouds tried to come over I put the dogs on it; poof, no snow.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

That’s the best photo of white cap’s face I’ve seen…I think it is real…
d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

Come on, it’s the same as the FBI photo already released of white cap guy’s profile. It’s just pasted on.

happytobehere on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

You don’t understand “stalker”. I’m asking for you to link your proof.

You know: “…Omitting facts it doesn’t become true”.

Otherwise you’re a liar.

And you are.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:07 PM

I don’t stalk people and I don’t have a copy-paste OCD. You seem to have plenty of time on your hand so go and find the two threads I’ve already exposed you on.

Seek psychological help while at it. For both selective memory and the OCD problem.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

So you’re basically admitting that hawkdriver is slandering me in an attempt to scare me off. Something to be proud of I guess….

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Any honest reader of that quote will recognize that I’m engaging in a debate about the relationship between puberty and when young men become aware of their sexual orientation. That really is that.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

So the Boston bomber pics have to do with young men discovering their sexuality. Got it. I’ll make a footnote so I can reference it.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Great, clearish, close up of #2 from Reddit catch here.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Someone out there knows this guy.

Gumby might but he wouldn’t turn the scum in, you know that.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

The last photo is definitely Photoshopped. Zoom in. You can see traces of the editing around White Cap guy.

Chris of Rights on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

I saw that g-girl. WTH. Its almost May. :-)

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

7 inches. It’s freaking April 18. Global Warming my butt.

My yard is clear and green. I put a restraining order on the snow, and when the clouds tried to come over I put the dogs on it; poof, no snow.

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Works for me!

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Doesn’t look shopped, at least not obvious. If this is true it’s going to narrow down list of CCTVs to check pretty quickly.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

But you said it.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM
Any honest reader of that quote will recognize that I’m engaging in a debate about the relationship between puberty and when young men become aware of their sexual orientation. That really is that.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Well, let me post the whole thing for full context.

Dude. THATS the point. Sexual desire is not nuanced, it’s not complicated and neither is sexual orientation. You like, what you like, period. It’s the people who think you can “choose” your sexual desires who think that sexual orientation is nuanced and complex and malleable. Those of us who went through puberty however know that pretty much from the moment the hormones start flowing you not only know which gender your attracted to, you know which kinds of folks within that gender you’re attracted to. This is particularly easy for guys. It’s called the boner test. If it gives you a boner…you like it.

Now are you honestly going to say with a straight face that every gay guy who at 14 realized they were getting a bone thinking about guys rather than girls “chose” that?

DeathToMediaHacks on April 10, 2009 at 6:42 AM

And then you wrote this. A bit more involved in my opinion.

And yes I am saying that 14 year olds can recognize when their turned on. Being turned on isn’t something you sit and ponder and decide upon with maturity. It’s a rush of feelings directed in large part by your hormones. At what point did you “choose” heterosexuality? Are you suggesting that at 14 we’re all attracted to everyone and then we “choose” our sexual desires over time? Absolutely ridiculous. The guys I find hot now, I found hot at 14. Now, with maturity has come an expansion in my initial tastes and a recognition that certain personalities are bad for dating etc. THATS where cognition comes in. Who you choose to sleep with, who you choose to date and eventually who you choose to make a long term investment in out of the many iindividuals whom you could fall in love with. But none of that has to do with sexual orientation.

DeathToMediaHacks on April 10, 2009 at 7:33 AM

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

One thing I can absolutely guarantee. If these guys are not tied to Islamic terrorism they are definitely lefty terrorists.

The Notorious G.O.P on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

I don’t stalk people and I don’t have a copy-paste OCD. You seem to have plenty of time on your hand so go and find the two threads I’ve already exposed you on.
 
Seek psychological help while at it. For both selective memory and the OCD problem.
 
lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

 
So no proof, eh liar?
 
Hey, did you read about crowdsourcing on these pictures?
 
Know where else it probably works?
 
HOTAIR POSTERS:
 
Did any of you ever see me make any claim about “gangs rarely using guns”?

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

D A M N

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

No white shirt on the dude in the black hat. Thought the same thing at first, but probably not him.

BKeyser on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

The reddit pic looks ‘shopped to me as it pixelates at a different res than the rest of the photo. Could just be cleanup, but I’m thinkin fake.

ROCnPhilly on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

One thing this tragedy has taught me – take lots and lots of pictures of the crowd at events like this. You never know when they might come in handy.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

. . . not seeing the homoerotica.

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

But you said it.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Any honest reader of that quote will recognize that I’m engaging in a debate about the relationship between puberty and when young men become aware of their sexual orientation. That really is that.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

He found the quote. You said you would leave.
So, leave creep.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Go away stalker. If you keep repeating the same lie and omitting facts it doesn’t become true.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:05 PM

Dude, without that m.o. you leftists would have nothing to say. stfu

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

I see that the liberal trolls are out tonight. They must have gotten the night off from planned parenthood. They must not have needed them to clean up the clinic after a full day of baby killing…must make you liberals proud on how your brother gosnell did the work you all approve of….you are a stain on humanity

crosshugger on April 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

(Well, that and the possibility that they didn’t hide their faces because they’re not the bombers and had no reason to hide.)

YiZhangZhe on April 18, 2013 at 7:46 PM

True. But if that’s the case, then we should know in the next 24 hours, as they will come forward to the police, as the track guys did, to clear their names.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

. . . not seeing the homoerotica.

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

ask libfree; it sees only homoerotica and racism everywhere.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

No more about gay stuff now. Not the time or the thread.

Doesn’t look shopped, at least not obvious. If this is true it’s going to narrow down list of CCTVs to check pretty quickly.

lester on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Wow, for once, you and I completely agree. Good point.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:17 PM

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Totally miss you, GG. :)

btw

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

If you we’re one of the dudes in video and you were innocent go to lawyer then conta ct FBI.

losarkos on April 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

I think the white cap has to be Mediterranean. When I first saw the picture I thought he looked vaguely similar to Ricky Rubio who is Spanish.

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

HOTAIR POSTERS:
 
Did any of you ever see me make any claim about “gangs rarely using guns”?

 
rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

 
Anyone besides lester, of course. His credibility is shot already.
 
Here’s probably what he’s irritated about, btw. It’s one of the only gang threads I’ve posted in:
 
http://hotair.com/headlines/archives/2012/07/24/its-fear-thats-driving-opposition-to-gun-control/comment-page-2/#comment-2029152

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Works for me!

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:15 PM

lol, well, you have folks out there claiming that GW will cause more snow. They cover every angle.

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Totally miss you, GG. :)

btw

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Right back at you :)

gophergirl on April 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

Bishop on April 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Gouda- love me some Gouda. And aged cheddar … with crackers, pickled herring, and good lager.

M240H on April 18, 2013 at 8:19 PM

So you’re basically admitting that hawkdriver is slandering me in an attempt to scare me off. Something to be proud of I guess….

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 8:13 PM

You are also dishonest and a liar.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 8:20 PM

D A M N

tom daschle concerned on April 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

:-)

hawkdriver on April 18, 2013 at 8:20 PM

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