Open thread: FBI press conference on Boston bombings; Update: Photos and video added; Update: Do cops have the names? Update: New pic discovered?

posted at 4:41 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

5 p.m. ET, all across the dial. The feds announced this morning that they’re planning to release images of the two suspects from the surveillance video sometime today. Presumably that means at the presser itself or shortly before or after; once they’re online, they’ll be posted below. A key detail via the Globe: “The official said that the two suspects were seen separately on videotape — one at each of the two bombing sites, which are located about a block apart.” That’s one thing that bothered me about the people being scrutinized in the Reddit photos. In at least two cases, the two “suspects” were standing right next to each other, conversing. If you and a partner were looking to bomb something and not get caught, rule one would/should be to avoid each other at the site itself so as not to make things easier for the cops later, right?

Speaking of which, the two guys I wrote about this morning (“White Cap” and “Track Suit”) have now been cleared by police. Track Suit turns out to be a 17-year-old kid who’s into running. That’s why he was at the marathon. While we wait for the FBI, here’s a recap in chart form of yesterday’s media meltdown over whether anyone had been arrested. Stand by for updates.

Update: Steve Emerson told Sean Hannity last night that ICE is planning to deport the Saudi national whom cops initially investigated as a person of interest in the bombing, then cleared. Per the Blaze, Emerson said it was on “national security grounds.” Other sources confirmed Emerson’s claim for the Blaze and basically allege that something suspicious is going on, not just with the Saudi but with his associates. But an ICE official told BuzzFeed this afternoon that it’s not true: The Saudi in the hospital isn’t being deported, a different Saudi national is. And that guy supposedly has nothing to do with the bombing. The Blaze later updated to note that its sources now say ICE has reconsidered and might not deport the Saudi in the hospital. How much of this is true and whether it has anything to do with the bombing is unclear at the moment, but there you go.

Update: Yep, images on the way.

Update: Fox Boston has one of the photos that the FBI’s planning to release at 5. All I can make out is the backwards white cap and the fact that the guy appears to be standing near a mailbox, possibly the same one that was seen in those photos released yesterday of a mysterious bag. If you’ve seen that guy in any of the hundreds of marathon photos floating around online, e-mail us.

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Update: The FBI’s posted multiple photos of the two suspects at its website. To my surprise, the two were together — but maybe not obviously “together” judging from the surveillance footage. The guy in the white cap, at least, looks very young, possibly even a teenager. I don’t remember them from any of the online photos I looked at yesterday but the black cap worn by the second suspect does look vaguely familiar.

Neither one drops a bag so there must be other video they’re not releasing yet.

Update: Here’s one that caught my eye a few days ago. This isn’t Black Cap, isn’t it? The pants, coat, and bag all look sort of right, but the hat seems lighter in this pic than in the vid. And there’s no white shirt here.

4c

Update: Silly mistake on my part: Ed points out via e-mail that this pic was taken after the blast, per the broken window on the right. Unless Black Cap was hanging out close by, which would be nutty, that’s not him.

Update: Someone in Reddit’s thread on this notes, apparently correctly, that Black Cap is wearing a Bridgestone golf cap.

Update: What’s that symbol on the side of White Cap’s hat? It looks like a “T” but with the right side of the letter lighter than the left side.

Update: More from the Reddit thread: White Cap might be wearing a Polo hat.

It doesn’t look like a “3″ in the side-view photo but it does in the slightly overhead surveillance video. Maybe it’s the number “7″ instead?

Update: Sure looks like a Reddit user inadvertently caught Black Cap on film — from the back, alas.

Update: From CBS:

CBS News correspondent John Miller explained why these two people are believed by the FBI to be possible suspects: “They have other video, including the one Orr referenced, where they believe they actually have on tape one of the suspects in the white baseball cap putting the bomb down in front of the Starbucks at the second location. But reason they selected the pictures we’re seeing here is they wanted to find the pictures that didn’t have the most sinister activity but the pictures that gave people the best chance of recognizing them.”

Update: Big news, if true:

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

Update: Actually, is that Black Cap in the last pic? It’s definitely White Cap — and I don’t see his backpack, post-blast — but the white part on Black Cap’s hat might not match up to the hat in the FBI photos.

Why were these guys in close proximity after the bombings? Didn’t they plant them a block or so apart?


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Also, what they have is that baseball cap guy put something down in the vicinity of where bomb 2 went off and the two of them were apparently moving around together. I’m not ready to assume these guys did it, and I can’t even see what they look like. Still alot to be learned on this.

forest on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I thought only the libtards got worked up about that kind of thing.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.” Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Ed, can you ban him, please? He has no place here.

RedNewEnglander on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Dear Ed,

Please make it happen. Ban this troll please! This place is significantly worse since gumbyandpokey returned.

What will it take to get rid of him? PLEASE!

happytobehere on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Nothing there Axe…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

? Looks there. Besides, I told you no one should click it. :) . . . but it looks there. Not “Link” link, linked after “Link.”

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

The lily white is image exposure right there.

The side profile shot whiteness is blown out highlights in the image information.

blatantblue on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

They definitely pumped up the exposure.

dogsoldier on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

People are just responding to the hopes and dreams of the media and the left in this country – that it be a “white male” or a “right wing extremist.” The left are the ones who went there, not us.

TarheelBen on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

If Bill Ayers had a son he’d wear a white baseball cap…

Bruno Strozek on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Can’t tell ethnicity on #1. He looks darker but can’t tell if middle eastern, asian, or just a good tan. #2 suspect is lily white.

Please dude, he looks swarthy… Iranian, Albanian, Syrian, Turkish…

ninjapirate on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Very distinctive nose. Could easily be ME.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

My guess?

OWS related.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

That was my first thought. The one guy in the white hat looks like your typical liberal OWS type.

The Notorious G.O.P on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

The lily white is image exposure right there.

The side profile shot whiteness is blown out highlights in the image information.

blatantblue on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Of course, that’s the first thing you do to an image to bring out facial characteristics. You brighten until the lightest feature color begins to wash out.

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Why delete? This is a Hot Gas Classic!

rogerb will have fun with this quote in the future methinks.

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I should have typed it out better, I was trying to say what
the lib must be thinking…
Has anyone paged roger yet?

MontanaMmmm on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Both look Middle Eastern to me.

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Fur realz. I’d wear as much as possible to cover up.

El_Terrible on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

He’s trying to blend in. What should he wear? A ski mask and goggles? A turban? Baseball cap and a smile is your best chance at a street fair. Maybe shades, but not more than that.

ChicagoJewishGuy on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Seem like Ayers inspired OWS protestors,

Tater Salad on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Behold how how a bigotted Dem/lib thinks. It’s a game and all that matter is who “wins” political points.

Not to mention you cannot really tell their ethnic background from these photos.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.” Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Because, just as with Tucson, you moonbats are so eager for it to be some redneck from Jesusland.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Lol, sometimes I do what I am told not to! ;-D Yeah I clicked…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Just a question – how come the N. Korea topic went off line, totally, as soon as Boston happened.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Because even before the Boston Marathon it was already apparent that NK was becoming dull. They rescinded the cease fire but didn’t actually shoot anything. The 10th April came and went and nobody got hurt. Their missiles didn’t get launched. Nothing happened, so nothing left worth discussing.

YiZhangZhe on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

The FBI site can’t even handle the upsurge in traffic, there’s bigger images but they refuse to load.

Pale guy could be Iranian?

mudskipper on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

These guys are long gone…

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Let it be very clear – NO one is a bigger racist on HA than you.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Very distinctive nose. Could easily be ME.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Maybe it’s that Wiener pervert whose now thinking of running for mayor. Huma’s supposed hubby.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.” Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”
libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

I dunno, these guys seem awfully young to be crazy right-wing nutters. They also seem too young to be considerably indoctrinated with some religious Islamic fundamentalism, or even OWS.

My guess is it’s a very public Columbine style killing.

happytobehere on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

I thought only the libtards got worked up about that kind of thing.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.” Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Says the stool from the DEMOCRAT party of the KKK, filibuster of the 1964 civil rights act, the fight to keep the south segregated, but never loses an opportunity to call conservatives racist.
Go blow your racist brother gummy&pokey.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Very distinctive nose. Could easily be ME.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Iranians are famous for their noses, in fact the islamists there are alarmed by the number of people getting cosmetic nose jobs.

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

With today’s social media this wont take long!!

dddave on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Oh Geez:

They look like Cypriots!

just kidding

WryTrvllr on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Question:

Why would a bomber completely expose his face like and wearing a bright white hat backwards knowing that he would stick out like a sore thumb in a HIGHLY photo’d and video’d event?

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Because, just as with Tucson, you moonbats are so eager for it to be some redneck from Jesusland.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The race obsessed troll is a left-wing socialist bigot.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Very distinctive nose. Could easily be ME.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Maybe it’s that Wiener pervert whose now thinking of running for mayor. Huma’s supposed hubby.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Do you get friends of the Muslim brotherhood privileges by marriage? /

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

I was hoping somebody would sneak in before the press conference and replace the FBI’s pics with pics of Obama and Holder.

TX-eye on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

He’s trying to blend in. What should he wear? A ski mask and goggles? A turban? Baseball cap and a smile is your best chance at a street fair. Maybe shades, but not more than that.

ChicagoJewishGuy on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The cap is on backwards though. I’d wear it like suspect #1 and some big sunglasses.

El_Terrible on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Because Europe is 4 hours away.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

The one in the white hat looks in high school

mrscullen on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Well, I can’t help, I do not know who these guys are…

Le Sigh

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Can’t tell ethnicity on #1. He looks darker but can’t tell if middle eastern, asian, or just a good tan. #2 suspect is lily white.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

“Lily white”? I dunno. He could be Mediterranean or Latino.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Okay, I got to the FBI web site. I agree, could be Mediterranean or Latino.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:41 PM

Are these seriously the best images the FBI has been able to find in the past 3 days?!

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Two Middle Eastern young men.

Who could’ve guessed that???

blue13326 on April 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

A black hat and a white hat. Turns out we really can all get along.

Sort of.

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

All I know is that suspect #2 has a very distinctive gate or step on his right leg… Odd really… Maybe he broke that leg before…

Y314K on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Wait. Who are the ones who are always chomping at the bit to blame “right-wingers” every time there’s some act of mass violence?

Those people are morons. But how is tying yourself in knots to convince yourself the suspect is a Muslim any different?

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Oh Geez:

They look like Cypriots!

WryTrvllr on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Looks Greek to me!

Shy Guy on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

O.K., so what happens if thse guys can’t be found?

a capella on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Question:

Why would a bomber completely expose his face like and wearing a bright white hat backwards knowing that he would stick out like a sore thumb in a HIGHLY photo’d and video’d event?

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I had exactly the same question.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Didn’t realise that there are cameras everywhere?

Or, is not connected, but one guy did lose the backpack…

Things that make one go, hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm….

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Good pics. People know these guys. How long can it be before someone fingers them?

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Not long because people will be scanning their marathon photographs and videos to see if they accidentally included similar looking people. I think it likely that within a day or so the FBI will have some better photographs to release, assuming they don’t get an actual identification.

YiZhangZhe on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Two Middle Eastern young men.

Who could’ve guessed that???

blue13326 on April 18, 2013 at 5:42 PM

No one. You’re not allowed to guess that. You are supposed to guess that a terrorist act was committed by an 80-year old Christian woman from Iowa.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

If you start guessing you end up making a fool of yourself:

here’s a pic of the guy with the white hat. not a muslim or middle eastern WHITE MALE, lol.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/hahatango/8652767019/sizes/k/in/photostream/
gumbyandpokey on April 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

forest on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Please dude, he looks swarthy… Iranian, Albanian, Syrian, Turkish…

ninjapirate on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

Okay, I screwed up. Got a better look and agree.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

It’s a good thing our borders are secured…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

As I said in an earlier thread.

The govt/media is playing a game.

Someone on FNC was told the second bomber was “caucasian”.

Again, people from the Balkans/Black Sea region, “of the caucus mountains” is where the term originates.

The guy in the white fits that definition exactly.

budfox on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

gumbyandpokey is the demented poll troll, he’s harmless though. If Ed/AP ban anyone it should be that marxist libtard professor libfree and the other libtard troll verbaluence, to name a few.

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

The guy in the white cap, at least, looks very young, possibly even a teenager.

I had thought that too until I saw him in the 9th photo down at teh FBI website. That 9th photo makes him look early to mid 20′s.

He’s definitely got a nose on him, too. You could almost hide a pressure cooker in that schnoz.

Dusty on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.” Why does it matter so much if you don’t “see race?”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Awesome circular argument, libfree:

Everything is racial. Conservative politics are a thing. Therefore, conservative politics are racial.

This coming from the guy who posted in the Fertilizer Bombing thread condemning someone for politicizing a tragedy, then going on to make about 6 different posts about how it wouldn’t have happened if there were “better regulations” in “business-friendly Texas.”

Lulz.

Good Solid B-Plus on April 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Shy Guy on April 18, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Might be Eskimo? they are kinda asian looking and can be swarthy\s

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

That’s it? That’s all the FBI showed? (I didn’t get to see the presser.)

This whole thing is BS.

WhatSlushfund on April 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

No one. You’re not allowed to guess that. You are supposed to guess that a terrorist act was committed by an 80-year old Christian woman from Iowa.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Well, hey – they are pretty vicious.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Is ball-cap sporting chin whiskers?

rhombus on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Looks like it to me.

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:45 PM

Says the stool from the DEMOCRAT party of the KKK, filibuster of the 1964 civil rights act, the fight to keep the south segregated, but never loses an opportunity to call conservatives racist.
Go blow your racist brother gummy&pokey.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

As everyone here knows I think the Democrats are fundamentally racist as well. But if it makes you feel better to talk about the heirs of the Confederacy, who were supported by the forefathers of nearly all southern white conservatives (or did the Democrats who voted for Jim Crow politicians simply all decide not to have children), then so be it. Voting for Obama in a two party presidential election doesn’t make me responsible for Jim Crow Democrats. And if it does, then I’d suggest there’s quite a few southern whites who owe quite a bit more to black people. If you want to go there.

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Can anyone see the markings on the back of the black cap..?

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Everybody on the left is hoping these guys turn out to be white and conservative/libertarian, so most on the right are going to take the opposite side of that trade.

DFCtomm on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Oh Geez:

They look like Cypriots!

just kidding

WryTrvllr on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

You laugh, but I knew a guy in college who looked exactly like the guy with the white hat – from Cyprus.

ROCnPhilly on April 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Islamist terrorists commit 99% of terrorism in the world.

But that doesn’t advance the progressive narrative, so naturally the Left and its media tools first reaction to terror attacks is to look for the connection to right wing or religious extremists. (But not Islamist religious extremists.) And keep looking until they find one, no matter how tenuous. If they can’t find one, they manufacture one.

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 5:47 PM

Maybe it’s that Wiener pervert…

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:38 PM

Heh, same nose, new face.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

just got here…so, is wolfie already calling them redneck right wing extremists yet?

cmsinaz on April 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Cool. I just cut/pasted that on Dkos under my pink-commie persona. Gave you credit, of course.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Whether these men are Middle Eastern Islamists or not, there’s no question that they are not “dark skinned men.” We will never hear an apology from CNN and other media outlets for promulgating racial animus based upon absolutely zero evidence.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Question:

Does Suspect #1s backpack actually look like it would be holding a pressure cooker? Looks flat and not very weighted.

As for Suspect #2 – where are the pics of a blown apart TAN backpack?

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

They have had almost four days to get out of the country.
If they cross into Mexico, that’s an automatic two year prison sentence.
Mexico is very strict about their immigration and protecting their border.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I had thought that too until I saw him in the 9th photo down at teh FBI website. That 9th photo makes him look early to mid 20′s.

He’s definitely got a nose on him, too. You could almost hide a pressure cooker in that schnoz.

Dusty on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Yeah. Blur makes you younger, since its in the detail you see the age. Short/blurry/ball cap = “young.” Maybe not so much. Lets see his perp walk in need of a shave and everything.

*shrug*

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Actually Firman on FNC just made sense… It’s the heavy backup is making him walk like that…

Y314K on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

It’s more of a defense mechanism. The left and the media started talking about “right wing” domestic terrorism almost immediately.

TarheelBen on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

We will never hear an apology from CNN and other media outlets for promulgating racial animus based upon absolutely zero evidence.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

You own CNN.

On the guys, no one cares more than you.

They are terrorists, period.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

The black hat is a bridgestone golf b330 hat.

stoj on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Everybody on the left is hoping these guys turn out to be white and conservative/libertarian, so most on the right are going to take the opposite side of that trade.

DFCtomm on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

At last, honesty.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American

Because conservatives are the ones obsessed with the race of the perpetrators.

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Sorry, but they both look middle-eastern to me.

I know the media and the wacko left (one in the same I know), are hoping beyond hope that these perps are angry white conservatives.

But the FACT of the matter, is that Conservatives DON’T do these kinds of things.

But if you want to paint with broad brushes, take a look at the mass killings and attempts to assassinate the President. Muslim jihadists set off bombs in crowds of people and look to maim and kill as many innocent people as they can. LEFTwing extremists make assassination attempts on Presidents. And if you look at the politics of mass shooting perps, those are also LEFTwingers.

If the left wants to throw around political generalizations, by all means let’s do that.

Meople on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

I’ll agree with others that these two seem awful young to be McVeigh-type political extremists. Seems more likely to be a “notice me!!” type of crime, to inflate their own flagging sense of self-importance.

When you feel like an impotent teenager with no power, I guess it seems attractive to seize some type of “control” by terrorizing the populace.

Good Solid B-Plus on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Um…..

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Ampersand on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

I still don’t see what the big deal is with racism? Hatred is a natural emotion…why are you anti-nature. I am sure plenty of non-white people like yourself hat me simply because I am white. I just can’t seem to care.

Screw “Eracism”…I say “Embracism”!….Copyright 2013 ClassicCon

ClassicCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

I believe only one bomb was a pressure cooker and a small one at that, I have been told. I asked same question…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Very distinctive nose. Could easily be ME.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 5:36 PM

It could be YOU???

Holey Moley, we found one of them!

The Rogue Tomato on April 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Our obsession? We have whole articles being written hoping that the person is white… and it was Reddit playing “Find the brown guy”.

ninjapirate on April 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

It’s a good thing our borders are secured…

… Oh, wait!

Seven Percent Solution on April 18, 2013 at 5:44 PM

Don’t worry. Rubio’s working on the borders.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Whether these men are Middle Eastern Islamists or not, there’s no question that they are not “dark skinned men.” We will never hear an apology from CNN and other media outlets for promulgating racial animus based upon absolutely zero evidence.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Tell me you are NOT serious. They are definitely dark skinned. Not as in black. But definitely tan.

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

I

thought only the libtards got worked up about that kind of thing.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

You’re operating under the delusion that conservatism has no racial politics? Stunning. Also, y’all are hilarious. You sound like 19th century phrenologists trying to prove that the light skinned people are somehow “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Right, like light skin as in white-Hispanic lol :)

jimver on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

There’s a lot of projecting going on here and not a lot of intellectual purity.

These pictures show *nothing* of race – and honestly it matters not what background they are from.

All you people saying “looks middle-eastern to me” are just playing into the left and the media’s identity politics game and its silly. It accomplishes nothing productive.

A lot of people are also forgetting that live in a country where if you’re a *suspect* – you’re still *innocent* until proven guilty.

Lots of people here are making statements as moronic as gumby’s but they just don’t realize it because they think its part of this big media game of “lets smear the white guys.”

Defenestratus on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The left and the media started talking about “right wing” domestic terrorism almost immediately.

TarheelBen on April 18, 2013 at 5:50 PM

So you’re admitting that “right wing” automatically communicates the racial identity of white? This thread is the truth telling thread.

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Says the stool from the DEMOCRAT party of the KKK, filibuster of the 1964 civil rights act, the fight to keep the south segregated, but never loses an opportunity to call conservatives racist.
Go blow your racist brother gummy&pokey.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:39 PM

As everyone here knows I think the Democrats are fundamentally racist as well. But if it makes you feel better to talk about the heirs of the Confederacy, who were supported by the forefathers of nearly all southern white conservatives (or did the Democrats who voted for Jim Crow politicians simply all decide not to have children), then so be it. Voting for Obama in a two party presidential election doesn’t make me responsible for Jim Crow Democrats. And if it does, then I’d suggest there’s quite a few southern whites who owe quite a bit more to black people. If you want to go there.

Of course none of that is germane to the issue at hand, which is conservatives blind-crazy obsession with these suspects being “not white.”

libfreeordie on April 18, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Hmmm, as you stated, CNN has been the one’s doing just that, not exactly a bastion of conservative thought, but keep f#cking that chicken, Robert Byrd.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

The black cap guy’s backpack doesn’t look “fat” enough for a pressure cooker…

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

The obsession is over one ‘side’ ‘winning or losing’…based purely on that detail.
For many, it’s a single prism view. If they can’t tie it to some partisan/ideological rant, than it doesn’t hold much interest at all for them.
Good to know there are pros in charge of this stuff.
I hope their work here bring additional results soon.

verbaluce on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

Why would a bomber completely expose his face like and wearing a bright white hat backwards knowing that he would stick out like a sore thumb in a HIGHLY photo’d and video’d event?

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Assuming these are the guys, they may have worn caps (at least one did) so his partner or a handler could track him. Or not. It really isn’t THAT distinctive, IMHO.

As for the cameras, for better or for worse, there aren’t many public places these days that aren’t full of cameras. It’s not much of a factor anymore for criminals of any sort, again IMHO.

ChicagoJewishGuy on April 18, 2013 at 5:52 PM

libnotfree, what the media leave out today, across the board.

The dude is white, Democrat and Christian. Find the pic with his lic. plate. All print “he’s an Elvis impersonator”. They also leave out that he owns guns and posts on the Puffington Host.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

He’s trying to blend in. What should he wear? A ski mask and goggles? A turban? Baseball cap and a smile is your best chance at a street fair. Maybe shades, but not more than that.

ChicagoJewishGuy on April 18, 2013 at 5:37 PM

The other guy blended in wearing a dark cap brim forward with sun glasses on.

You can blend in without making it easy to get a good photo of your face while walking by hundreds of cameras.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Why would a bomber completely expose his face like and wearing a bright white hat backwards knowing that he would stick out like a sore thumb in a HIGHLY photo’d and video’d event?

Thoughts?

LordMaximus on April 18, 2013 at 5:40 PM

If these people were clever they’d know they were never going to accomplish anything worthwhile by detonating little bombs at a race meeting.

They’re just stupid.

YiZhangZhe on April 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I agree suspect #1 is hard to determine.

But #2 clearly looks Chechen, Armenian, or Persian.

Possibly northern Arabic, like Syrian or Turkish. But my guess (let the record show) is Chechnya.

ericdondero on April 18, 2013 at 5:53 PM

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