Open thread: FBI press conference on Boston bombings; Update: Photos and video added; Update: Do cops have the names? Update: New pic discovered?

posted at 4:41 pm on April 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

5 p.m. ET, all across the dial. The feds announced this morning that they’re planning to release images of the two suspects from the surveillance video sometime today. Presumably that means at the presser itself or shortly before or after; once they’re online, they’ll be posted below. A key detail via the Globe: “The official said that the two suspects were seen separately on videotape — one at each of the two bombing sites, which are located about a block apart.” That’s one thing that bothered me about the people being scrutinized in the Reddit photos. In at least two cases, the two “suspects” were standing right next to each other, conversing. If you and a partner were looking to bomb something and not get caught, rule one would/should be to avoid each other at the site itself so as not to make things easier for the cops later, right?

Speaking of which, the two guys I wrote about this morning (“White Cap” and “Track Suit”) have now been cleared by police. Track Suit turns out to be a 17-year-old kid who’s into running. That’s why he was at the marathon. While we wait for the FBI, here’s a recap in chart form of yesterday’s media meltdown over whether anyone had been arrested. Stand by for updates.

Update: Steve Emerson told Sean Hannity last night that ICE is planning to deport the Saudi national whom cops initially investigated as a person of interest in the bombing, then cleared. Per the Blaze, Emerson said it was on “national security grounds.” Other sources confirmed Emerson’s claim for the Blaze and basically allege that something suspicious is going on, not just with the Saudi but with his associates. But an ICE official told BuzzFeed this afternoon that it’s not true: The Saudi in the hospital isn’t being deported, a different Saudi national is. And that guy supposedly has nothing to do with the bombing. The Blaze later updated to note that its sources now say ICE has reconsidered and might not deport the Saudi in the hospital. How much of this is true and whether it has anything to do with the bombing is unclear at the moment, but there you go.

Update: Yep, images on the way.

Update: Fox Boston has one of the photos that the FBI’s planning to release at 5. All I can make out is the backwards white cap and the fact that the guy appears to be standing near a mailbox, possibly the same one that was seen in those photos released yesterday of a mysterious bag. If you’ve seen that guy in any of the hundreds of marathon photos floating around online, e-mail us.

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Update: The FBI’s posted multiple photos of the two suspects at its website. To my surprise, the two were together — but maybe not obviously “together” judging from the surveillance footage. The guy in the white cap, at least, looks very young, possibly even a teenager. I don’t remember them from any of the online photos I looked at yesterday but the black cap worn by the second suspect does look vaguely familiar.

Neither one drops a bag so there must be other video they’re not releasing yet.

Update: Here’s one that caught my eye a few days ago. This isn’t Black Cap, isn’t it? The pants, coat, and bag all look sort of right, but the hat seems lighter in this pic than in the vid. And there’s no white shirt here.

4c

Update: Silly mistake on my part: Ed points out via e-mail that this pic was taken after the blast, per the broken window on the right. Unless Black Cap was hanging out close by, which would be nutty, that’s not him.

Update: Someone in Reddit’s thread on this notes, apparently correctly, that Black Cap is wearing a Bridgestone golf cap.

Update: What’s that symbol on the side of White Cap’s hat? It looks like a “T” but with the right side of the letter lighter than the left side.

Update: More from the Reddit thread: White Cap might be wearing a Polo hat.

It doesn’t look like a “3″ in the side-view photo but it does in the slightly overhead surveillance video. Maybe it’s the number “7″ instead?

Update: Sure looks like a Reddit user inadvertently caught Black Cap on film — from the back, alas.

Update: From CBS:

CBS News correspondent John Miller explained why these two people are believed by the FBI to be possible suspects: “They have other video, including the one Orr referenced, where they believe they actually have on tape one of the suspects in the white baseball cap putting the bomb down in front of the Starbucks at the second location. But reason they selected the pictures we’re seeing here is they wanted to find the pictures that didn’t have the most sinister activity but the pictures that gave people the best chance of recognizing them.”

Update: Big news, if true:

Update: Some Reddit users think this pic is photoshopped but it looks legit to me. You’ve got White Cap on the far left, leaving the scene of the bombing — and there, behind him next to the lady in the pink coat, appears to be Black Cap. First fair look we’ve gotten at his face.

Update: Actually, is that Black Cap in the last pic? It’s definitely White Cap — and I don’t see his backpack, post-blast — but the white part on Black Cap’s hat might not match up to the hat in the FBI photos.

Why were these guys in close proximity after the bombings? Didn’t they plant them a block or so apart?


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Will I respect the FBI in the morning?

mjbrooks3 on April 18, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Usually they pretend to care about the victims. G&P can’t even be bothered to try that, apparently. What a sicko.

Doomberg on April 18, 2013 at 5:12 PM

When you have a life as small as that, you really only have politics.

I also find it funny how motive does not work into the equation. Jus race.

Gatsu on April 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Looks like an asian/ NoKo guy to me.

portlandon on April 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

He does have that Glenn look from the Walking Dead.

Or he’s Iranian.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

20 minutes late. Here we go!

Steve Eggleston on April 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Here we go.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:20 PM

Who wan’t to lay odds:

Tea Party: 10-1

Occupy Wall Street: 5-1

General “Jared Laughner” Nutjob: Even money

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:15 PM

If he’s Occupy, they’ll make him a professor.

Buddahpundit on April 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Just one suspect

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

ok here we go

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Initially there was one person of interest. They moved slowly to develop it, and found a second.

Steve Eggleston on April 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

No, there are two.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:21 PM

2 suspects

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

those pictures are much better!

chasdal on April 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

FBI: “Blah, blah, blah …”

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Not so white, dummygumbey

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Clearly Middle-Eastern and NOT WHITE. Of course the skin color doesn’t matter, but it does indicate that this is likely NOT so-called “homegrown” terror and is almost certainly islamic terrorism.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Guess everybody was right – Suspect 1 darker-skinned, Suspect 2 light-skinned.

Steve Eggleston on April 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

They will be found and soon…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Well, well, well…

Now we know why they cancelled yesterday’s press conference.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

They look Middle Eastern or like OWS protesters.

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Win what exactly?

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Obamaphones, I guess?

Punchenko on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Considered to be armed and extremely dangerous… also likely foreign terrorists.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Pakistani is what I think.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

After all this speculation & rumors, I’m starting to develop a clear picture of…

Who did it

Thank you, mediate elites. You really have been quite helpful.

MichaelGabriel on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

What is the logo on the white cap..?

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Dang, where did I put that delete button.

MontanaMmmm on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

They look Middle Eastern or like OWS protesters.

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Indeed.

Punchenko on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Remember, there are muslims of every color. muslims are not a race, they are a satanic death cult.

wildcat72 on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

My guess?

OWS related.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

White cap guy has a Yemini nose.

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Do not take any action on your own.
I think that shoud be for the suspect’s safety, because Bostonians I know would gladly rip them limb by bloody limb.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Yep, just like the Dems/Liberals won big with the white male under arrest for the ricin letters. You know, the self-proclaimed DEMOCRAT. Nice win, azzho……

joejm65 on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

remember these are only suspects…

equanimous on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Dang, where did I put that delete button.

MontanaMmmm on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

It exposed itself to be beyond stupid. Its party is not proud. It is a stupid agent.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Iranian, Moroccan, Algerian, Tunisian, the sky’s the limit.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

but it does indicate that this is likely NOT so-called “homegrown” terror and is almost certainly islamic terrorism.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:23 PM

Oh, naughty, naughty! You said islamic. You are suppose to say islamist.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

All I can make from that photo/video is that the guy in question isn’t a dark-skinned black guy.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Street shoes. What homegrown young man wears street shoes to a marathon?

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Can’t tell ethnicity on #1. He looks darker but can’t tell if middle eastern, asian, or just a good tan. #2 suspect is lily white.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

Whatever their race, the dudes look like Euros trying to dress American.

Captain Kirock on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

I hope they get the bastards.

celticdefender on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

White cap guy has a Yemini nose.

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

ME, but I maintain Pakistani

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

OxyCon on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Has a very distinct ‘arabic’ shaped nose for sure!

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

A WHITE MALE.
Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Win what exactly?

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Obamaphones, I guess?

Punchenko on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Looks like G&P blew his load a little too soon. They look swarthy.
Of course, his mom would agree on that first point.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Oh, naughty, naughty! You said islamic. You are suppose to say islamist.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

My apologies. Because we all know that there is a HUGE difference.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Dang, where did I put that delete button.

MontanaMmmm on April 18, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Why delete? This is a Hot Gas Classic!

rogerb will have fun with this quote in the future methinks.

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Black cap strikes me as Egyptian, Libyan.

White cap something like Iraqi, Saudi.

IDK, I’ve spent quite a bit of time around Arabs in college and in my Arabic language education. Just my two cents.

blatantblue on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Suspects look like they could be of any background I think. Too early to jump to conclusions.

El_Terrible on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

#2 suspect is lily white.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

You’re kidding, right?

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

You’re sool, moron.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

I don’t see any pictures of them without their backpacks?

Dasher on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Last Question?!?!

mjbrooks3 on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Why would anyone wear a cap backwards while walking right by a camera, giving a nice facial image, when carrying a bomb they plan to plant and explode in the area within few minutes?

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Indeed – it stepped into it, big time.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

You’re kidding, right?

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

I wasn’t but I’ll look again.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Now the public can help…

I hope they are found quickly…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

street to airport to gone

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

You celebrated Thatchers passing too.

cozmo on April 18, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Link (again) to something no one should read, few will, and no one will enjoy. And why do I do it?

Library girl.

Library girl will say, “Wow, that was amazing. I love you. Here’s my selfy right before practice.”

I get Library Girl, the pain I put everyone else through will be totally worth it.

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Video of suspects in Boston Marathon bombing investigation – FBI

31 secs ago from http://www.youtube.com by editor

FBI releases photos, video of 2 suspects Boston Marathon bombing investigation – live video

1 min ago by editor

Photo: FBI to release photos in Boston Marathon bombing investigation – @JimArmstrongWBZ

3 mins ago from twitter.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/boston-marathon-explosion

canopfor on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Can’t tell ethnicity on #1. He looks darker but can’t tell if middle eastern, asian, or just a good tan. #2 suspect is lily white.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

“Lily white”? I dunno. He could be Mediterranean or Latino.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Good pics. People know these guys. How long can it be before someone fingers them?

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Those images don’t tell me much about those guys. One of them kinda looks like Alex Ovechkin except shorter.

Hopefully somebody who knows them can ID, but until then, I’m still not speculating.

forest on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Looks like G&P blew his load a little too soon.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Shrinkage?

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Suspects look like they could be of any background I think. Too early to jump to conclusions.

El_Terrible on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

I agree.

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Can’t tell ethnicity on #1. He looks darker but can’t tell if middle eastern, asian, or just a good tan. #2 suspect is lily white.

WisRich on April 18, 2013 at 5:26 PM

The lily white is image exposure right there.

The side profile shot whiteness is blown out highlights in the image information.

blatantblue on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

White cap dude looks like the offspring of John F Kerry.

HumpBot Salvation on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Why would anyone wear a cap backwards while walking right by a camera, giving a nice facial image, when carrying a bomb they plan to plant and explode in the area within few minutes?

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Fur realz. I’d wear as much as possible to cover up.

El_Terrible on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

It was pretty much a given that the suspects were Muslim from the start on Monday:

1) Obama’s speech at 6:15pm saying that we should not jump to conclusions.

2) Obama attending an inter-faith ceremony today.

They knew from the start these perps were Middle Eastern.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Was just thinking the same thing…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Soot anyone who is wearing a white cap on sight!

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

My guess?

OWS related.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Quite likely.

a capella on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Is ball-cap sporting chin whiskers?

rhombus on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Thanks so much for sharing that. How much did Salon pay you to write that article yesterday?

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Looks like G&P blew his load a little too soon.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Shrinkage?

Del Dolemonte on April 18, 2013 at 5:30 PM

Premature.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Anybody recognize the logos on the caps..?

d1carter on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

My guess is that these guys could be “mules.” Their job to drop the bombs off. I don’t think it’s al-Qaeda because I think they would have taken credit, and it would probably have been a suicide bombing.

TarheelBen on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Nothing there Axe…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Good grief, everyone’s wrapped up in the ethnicity of the perps?

*sigh*

I thought only the libtards got worked up about that kind of thing.

Midas on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Talking about “winning” over a terrorist bombing on American soil.

Ed, can you ban him, please? He has no place here.

RedNewEnglander on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

MSNBC is freaking out.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Who cares what race he is? Why the obsession with him being white or non-white? It’s utterly ridiculous. Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Wait. Who are the ones who are always chomping at the bit to blame “right-wingers” every time there’s some act of mass violence?

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

rhombus on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

In my TV views here it seemed like one had chops and chin boy whiskers.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

dude, you played yourself.

to be thrown up in your face for time immemorial

renalin on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

. . . c’mon, vid; cooperate. I need to know if I need to scold white people for being killers.

Axe on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

MSNBC is freaking out.

sentinelrules on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

What are they saying?

blatantblue on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Some of you should grow up.

YYZ on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Start with you. If you think it doesn’t matter, see media.

Schadenfreude on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I have ideas for these punks that go for beyond prison. I would post those ideas here, but I’d be banned.

I was crushed after 9/11. Crushed.

This time, I’m livid.

Grace_is_sufficient on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

rhombus on April 18, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Thought that too and looks fake to me, could be shadow tho also…

Scrumpy on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Based on the information the FBI gave, I think 4 of my 8 neighbors are suspects.

VorDaj on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

I’m not worked up about ethnicity. I am simply MORE CONCERNED because they appear to be of middle-eastern descent. It that is true, it is reasonable to conclude that this is part of a larger operation.

Though neither situation is good, I’d feel a lot better if this was a lone-wolf, which the “white male” argument usually references.

Longing4Lincoln on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

My guess?

OWS related.

aquaviva on April 18, 2013 at 5:25 PM

Oh, man. If that’s the case, you talk about soft-pedaling.

ddrintn on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

The one guy looks asian. The other looks Yemeni like.

The Notorious G.O.P on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Good pics. People know these guys. How long can it be before someone fingers them?

novaculus on April 18, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Several people already have, problem is that there are 30,000 useless tips to sort through to find the real information.

slickwillie2001 on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

If mules they are at the bottom of Boston Harbor.

Limerick on April 18, 2013 at 5:33 PM

FBI: Suspect No. 2 with white cap is only one believed to be seen placing down bomb – live video

2 mins ago by editor

Boston Marathon explosion

FBI says ‘identifying and locating those responsible is now our highest priority’ in Boston Marathon bombing investigation – @Reuters

3 mins ago by editor

Boston Marathon explosion

Video of suspects in Boston Marathon bombing investigation – FBI

2 mins ago from http://www.youtube.com by editor

Boston Marathon explosion

Video, photos of suspects in Boston Marathon bombing investigation on fbi.gov

3 mins ago from http://www.fbi.gov by editor

Video, photos of suspects in Boston Marathon bombing investigation on fbi.gov

3 mins ago from http://www.fbi.gov by editor

Boston Marathon explosion

FBI releases photos, video of 2 suspects Boston Marathon bombing investigation – live video

7 mins ago by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/boston-marathon-explosion

canopfor on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Well, they are probably not blonde and probably in their twenties.

Beyond that…

farsighted on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Yes!!!! Win BIG!!! Dems/Libs now have another OWS recruit!!!! Maybe he even plays…the DRUMS!! Ermahgerd!!!

joejm65 on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

FBI website down

celticdefender on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

A WHITE MALE.

Dems/liberals win big.

gumbyandpokey on April 18, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Talking about “winning” over a terrorist bombing on American soil.

Ed, can you ban him, please? He has no place here.

RedNewEnglander on April 18, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Don’t hold your breath.

RovesChins on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

They look like OWS’ers.

HumpBot Salvation on April 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

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