Breaking: CNN says feds believe they’ve identified a suspect in the Boston bombing; Update: Feds want to talk to “a number of people”; Update: No arrests; Update: Black jacket, gray hooded sweatshirt, white cap

posted at 1:48 pm on April 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

If you believe John King, there’s surveillance video from Lord & Taylor department store of someone carrying and “perhaps” dropping a black bag near the site of the second bombing. What that means, I take it, is that they don’t have video of the drop itself but still frames of someone with, and then without, a backpack within a few seconds.

Investigators believe they have identified a suspect in the Boston Marathon bombings, a source who has been briefed on the investigation told CNN’s John King exclusively.

The breakthrough came from analysis of video from a department store near the site of the second explosion. Video from a Boston television station also contributed to the progress, said the source, who declined to be more specific but called it a significant development.

No images yet, but apparently CNN reported on air that the suspect has a dark complexion. This is … interesting too:

There’s a briefing today at 5 p.m. ET. I don’t know if “identified” means they already have a name or if they’re going purely by description, in which case they’ll have to release the surveillance videos and risk “inflammation.” Sources tell the Boston Globe that they’re “very close” in the investigation, which I guess means that if they don’t have the name yet, they think they will soon.

Like Ace, I’m curious to see if the surveillance images match with any of the people identified in the 4Chan crowdsourcing of marathon Flickr photos. I skimmed through them this morning and nothing looked odd to me except the two guys with black backpacks and beige pants and boots standing next to each other. But that makes no sense: If you’re operating in concert, why make it easier for the feds to spot you by wearing similar clothes? Anyway, stand by for updates.

Update: I guess they have a name.

CNN’s now reporting that the arrest’s been made. Stay tuned.

Update: I find it morbidly strange that the bomber(s) didn’t have plans for a second attack immediately, i.e. within hours, after the marathon bombing. They know they’re probably going to get caught, and given all the cameras at the finish line, it’s probably going to be soon. If they’re willing to kill on Monday, why not yesterday or today before they’re pinched?

Update Hmmmmm.

Authorities investigating the Boston Marathon bombing said Wednesday they have developed “solid leads” and identified “a number of people” they want to talk to after viewing hundreds of hours of video, with one or two standing out.

Senior officials told NBC News that they were not prepared to characterize those individuals as suspects.

“We are zeroing in on some people,” an official said.

Investigators analyzing photos and video have found people carrying black backpacks and duffel bags and setting them down in the area where the bombs went off, officials said.

Sounds like maybe they’ve got one suspect on the L&T video but think he may have had a partner.

Update: NBC says there’s no arrest yet but the AP says the suspect’s already on his way to the courthouse.

Update: The plot thickens:

Update: Total chaos:

Update: CBS has the first details of the surveillance vid, or so says their source:

At the site of what became the second explosion on Monday, surveillance video captured a man wearing a black jacket and gray hooded sweatshirt placing a backpack on the ground while talking on a cell phone, sources told Orr.

While the man was on the phone, the first explosion went off.

CBS News senior correspondent John Miller reports that authorities settled on one individual late Tuesday and are having discussions over whether to go public with identifying the person.

Update: Two tweets from the Boston Globe, posted within 11 minutes of each other, presented without further comment:

Update: A little more detail from a CBS affiliate:

Orr said authorities have video of a man in a black jacket on a cell phone, wearing a gray hoodie and a white baseball cap backwards placing a black bag at the second bomb site outside of the Forum restaurant on Boylston Street and then leaving the area before that explosion.

Orr said the man was on the phone at the second bomb site when the first bomb exploded.

Orr said the FBI looked at time man was on his cell phone and then went back and scanned all the calls made in the area to track who they wanted to talk to.

Are they suggesting that he detonated the bomb remotely by phone or that he placed a call to someone, or somewhere, that threw up a red flag?

Update: An FBI spokesman says nope, no arrests have been made. Who told CNN and the AP and the Boston Globe otherwise?

Update: Another strike against CNN: According to CBS, the suspect doesn’t have a “dark complexion.”

Update: I skimmed the 4Chan gallery again but didn’t see anyone matching the CBS description. (There’s a guy in a white hat and black coat/pullover, but no hoodie.) The only one that looks close-ish is about two-thirds of the way down the page, with a bunch of flags in the foreground, of a man crouched against a wall with a black backpack. But the cap looks gray, not white, and I don’t see a hood, just a jacket with a big collar. I don’t think the suspect’s in any of those images.

Update: Indeed.

Update: The “official” who told the AP earlier that a suspect is in custody is standing by that despite the FBI’s denial. Hmmm.


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Lourdes

It is my understanding that the video you are linking is from the 1st bomb site. The reported “person of interest” is from a Lord & Taylor video (NOT RELEASED TO PUBLIC) and this “person of interest” was close to 2nd site when the 1st went off, therefore different individuals.

luckybogey on April 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

And where have I offered some ‘preference’?
The perp didn’t get killed – and they seem to know how to do this stuff and have the inclination to use that knowledge.
Be it DT, AQ, or just some loner psychopath (all possibilities) – they tend to be repeat offenders.

I think as it stands now, you could equally build a profile for a McVeigh or a Shahzad.

verbaluce on April 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Did I say that you did?

NO.

You said:

It’s one thing to theorize…it’s another to wish for something.

verbaluce on April 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I said:

‘Please don’t be a Muslim.’

– Savannah Gutrie, NBC News

In fact, I was agreeing with you. I merely pointed out that the ‘wishing’ was hardly limited to Laura Ingraham or the ‘right-wing.’

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Now that the FBI is in charge of the investigation, there is no chance that anyone other than a white, Christian, heterosexual, Republican NRA member is going to be charged with the crime.

Remember Richard Jewell?

Remember Steven Hatfill?

The FBI is working on the fall guy now; relax people, the coverup continues.

patch on April 17, 2013 at 5:49 PM

By the way, there was a photo circulating late Monday of cops detaining someone with a black jacket, grey hoodie, and baseball cap worn backwards in Boston Common..

Does anyone else remember where it was posted?

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Maybe, one day, you’ll get your white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthal.

In the meantime, sesqui, KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Not down here on the bayou. Sesquatch and his bunch will not make it out alive. A gator mos’ likely.

davidk on April 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM

What’s interesting to me is that the left is hoping it was an American – supposedly one of their countrymen – while the right is hoping it wasn’t an American and not one of their countrymen.

Says a lot about the left, doesn’t it? I think perhaps I understand them a little better, now. 9/11′s aren’t viewed as terrorist attacks, so much as “setbacks,” and Sandy Hooks aren’t viewed as tragedies so much as “opportunities.” The left almost seems happy when a “Sandy Hook” happens.

Doomberg on April 17, 2013 at 5:42 PM

Exactly. As I wrote yesterday in a post on my blog:

Blame America Firsters like Chris Matthews, Michael Moore, David Axelrod, Luke Russert, Jay Mohr, ABC News, Congressman William Keating, Christian Science Monitor’s Staff Writer Peter Grier, CNN-terror analyst Peter Bergen, Huffington Post blogger and Al Sharpton’s radio producer Nida Khan, Esquire’s Charles Pierce, and Cynthia McKinney, etc, WILL ALWAYS ASSUME, HOPE, AND ‘PRAY’ that people, who commit terrorist attacks and kill and maim, are their FELLOW CITIZENS, especially their fellow citizens who are ideologically different from them. They will NEVER hope that a foreigner did it for whatever reason because they only see the worst possible evil in people with which they disagree politically. They want a political victory even if it means pulling for their fellow Americans to kill other Americans.

The same thing happens with gay marriage, abortion, etc. The very worst people in the world to them are their fellow Americans, who believe differently than they do. The people, who actually execute homosexuals and stone women, are just ‘poor, misunderstood victims of American aggression.’

Links for what each has said are in the post:

Why The Left Always Assumes, Hopes, And Prays That A ‘Right-Wing Extremist’ Is Behind An Attack…

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM

Suspect pictured wearing shorts. Tiny hands, big or larger hips than most males have. I think it looks like a female, at least as pictured there.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Or a ghey dude.

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 5:53 PM

It looks like the other dude is talking into his hand:

http://i.imgur.com/Hypepcm.jpg

Punchenko on April 17, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Again if this are the real pictures of the terrorist(s) I am 100% certain that they are from Middle Eastern background… I know how Middle Easterns look like more than 99.99% of the population…

mnjg on April 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Definitely “middle eastern” ethnicity, both of them.

Is the back-pack guy (white hat, large backpack carried, back to camera in that link) the same one pictured later (in link I posted above here – http://thenewsjunkie.com/photo-shows-suspect-currently-in-custody-for-boston-marathon-bombing/ ) who appears to be wearing shorts?

Could be long pants (first picture, if this is the same individual) since torn away by a blast or fire, I don’t know.

But it still could be a female, though in first photo http://i.imgur.com/Hypepcm.jpg looks less like a female, might still be female — second photo (“running”) http://thenewsjunkie.com/photo-shows-suspect-currently-in-custody-for-boston-marathon-bombing/ does look like a female, though.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Tater Salad

Did not find Boston Common pic however found this:

http://www.vice.com/read/the-boston-bomber-is-not-eric-twardzik

and

Police handcuffed and detained a man in the Boston Common about 5 p.m. but officials did not say whether he was a suspect. “About seven police surrounded the man and handcuffed him,” said Eric Twardzik, 22, a senior at Emerson College who witnessed the incident. “There was a heavy police presence … with about 20 police carrying weapons.”

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/explosions-dozen-injured-boston-marathon-article-1.1317296#ixzz2QlBmTHZ2

luckybogey on April 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Suspect pictured wearing shorts. Tiny hands, big or larger hips than most males have. I think it looks like a female, at least as pictured there.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

But if a lady did it, would the wiminz organizations in this country condemn her, or try to portray her as a victim of the male patriarchy or the predominantly white male oppressive gun culture? Just askin’.

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Lourdes

It is my understanding that the video you are linking is from the 1st bomb site. The reported “person of interest” is from a Lord & Taylor video (NOT RELEASED TO PUBLIC) and this “person of interest” was close to 2nd site when the 1st went off, therefore different individuals.

luckybogey on April 17, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Totally a guess, here, but I strongly doubt that there’s “merely” one person involved here, as to perpetrator. Almost certainly — again, my guess, my instincts — an association of several people responsible.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Whew! TEA Partiers don’t wear black jackets, grey hoodies, and baseball cap backwards.

Was the suspects pants riding low with underwear showing?

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

sounds like the Occupy uniform to me,

chasdal on April 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Whew! TEA Partiers don’t wear black jackets, grey hoodies, and baseball cap backwards.

Was the suspects pants riding low with underwear showing?

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

sounds like the Occupy uniform to me,

chasdal on April 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Sounds like mostly everybody in da LA hoods.

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Suspect pictured wearing shorts. Tiny hands, big or larger hips than most males have. I think it looks like a female, at least as pictured there.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 5:31 PM

But if a lady did it, would the wiminz organizations in this country condemn her, or try to portray her as a victim of the male patriarchy or the predominantly white male oppressive gun culture? Just askin’.

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

One female or several of them involved — female, any/all, whatever — would add extra explanation to the effort to “silence speculation” and insist on the Left’s favored excuse of “the lone, angry white man”.

I REALLY doubt a “lone, angry white man” would chose a marathon in Boston to seek harms on people. It doesn’t seem to jive with the “angry, white man” complaints.

Again, this is merely and only my first instinct as to speculating, but I do speculate that the perpetrator/s responsible are of some ethnicity not generally identified as “White” and are involved in some sort of Leftwing antagonism about “traditional Americana,” thus, the target of the marathon, all those happy, fun families, many of which are Caucasian: it’s Boston, for pity’s sake, and the POPULATION was targeted.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Whew! TEA Partiers don’t wear black jackets, grey hoodies, and baseball cap backwards.

Was the suspects pants riding low with underwear showing?

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 5:45 PM

sounds like the Occupy uniform to me,

chasdal on April 17, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Yes, agree with both of you.

Environmental-socio-political Leftwing of a variety of ethnicities and associations but it seems to be a case of “the angry Leftwing extremist” attacking “the traditional fun Americana” of families and health, etc.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM

luckybogey on April 17, 2013 at 5:58 PM

That’s the one, wrong color jacket though.

Tater Salad on April 17, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The fact you keep talking about gun control when nobody will give a rip once we find out who committed the terrorist act is shows this is a huge loss for the GOP.

The winning side never changes the subject.

It’s fun to be back and rubbing your noses in the rancid stench of defeat. Heck, even that Salon guy was a winner in all of this.

gumbyandpokey on April 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Defeat?

As I said above, one side is ALWAYS looking for a political victory when people have been horribly murdered, maimed, and terrorised.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Maybe, one day, you’ll get your white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthal.

In the meantime, sesqui, KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Not down here on the bayou. Sesquatch and his bunch will not make it out alive. A gator mos’ likely.

davidk on April 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Rattlers, mocs, gators…”Oh, hey, can I swim in that lake?” “Why, yes, sure, go right ahead but swim at your own risk.”

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Maybe, one day, you’ll get your white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthal.

In the meantime, sesqui, KEEP HOPE ALIVE!!!

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Not down here on the bayou. Sesquatch and his bunch will not make it out alive. A gator mos’ likely.

davidk on April 17, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Good, but I’m doubt there are a bunch of ‘white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthals’ on the bayou…except in sesqui’s stereotyped world.

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Good, but I’m doubt there are a bunch of ‘white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthals’ on the bayou…except in sesqui’s stereotyped world.

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

You never saw an episode of Buck-Wild or Duck-Dynasty I guess….

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Or Honey-boo-boo

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:17 PM

You never saw an episode of Buck-Wild or Duck-Dynasty I guess….

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I get your point, but those folks have already conceded they’re a bit in character for the show.

hawkdriver on April 17, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Just saying that there is a small portion of the population that fits Resist’s picture. I may have attended a family reunion or two with some of them.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:21 PM

Peruse this

Schadenfreude on April 17, 2013 at 5:11 PM

Thx Schad.
I will bite my tongue now.
But my wheels are churning.
Also,for sharing the the other day
about the 4/1 special travel deal.
I don’t get to surf enough due to work
but many of you here are huge sources of important info
that is kept in the closet. Why I keep here at HA.

h/t to RWM too. She is the awesome.
She should have her own show..
The Down Low
with SophieRo.
We have her..the left has sesesspool and libanddie.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Good, but I’m doubt there are a bunch of ‘white, Southern, illiterate, inbred, Bible-reading, snake-handling, dirt-eating, squirrel-stewing, sister-shagging, cousin-marrying, trailer-park-living, single-tooth-brushing, hair-combovering, sheet-wearing, cross-burning, gun-worshiping, always-voting-against-his-own-self-interest, sexist, racist, bigoted, homophobic, Islamophobic Neanderthals’ on the bayou…except in sesqui’s stereotyped world.

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:14 PM

You never saw an episode of Buck-Wild or Duck-Dynasty I guess….

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Take that back about Duck Dynasty! And, How do you square Jersey Shore?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

The fact you keep talking about gun control when nobody will give a rip once we find out who committed the terrorist act is shows this is a huge loss for the GOP.
The winning side never changes the subject.
It’s fun to be back and rubbing your noses in the rancid stench of defeat. Heck, even that Salon guy was a winner in all of this.
gumbyandpokey on April 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Absolutely disgusting how Obama supporter GumbyandPokey wants to talk about political “winners” resulting from people being killed and seriously maimed as a result of this terrorism. All of Obama supporter GumbyandPokey’s analysis ALWAYS concludes that Democrats are the big winners and Republicans the losers (he even gleefully but wrongly predicted a Walker defeat in the WI recall), so this isn’t totally unexpected, but the fact that Obama supporters like him think they can score political points from horrible tragedy is simply stomach turning.

bluegill on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Allah, is this the photo you were referencing? http://i.imgur.com/aCjGrD0h.jpg

happytobehere on April 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

If that’s the same individual later appearing “running” with cutoffs and destroyed backpack, then, no, not a female.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Oh. Oops. It says “on the bayou”. Nope. My bad. Not on the Bayou.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:25 PM

BTW
 

In fairness to the rogerbee… But for the bee…he spends hours working through his files…digging through old unrelated threads…moving quotes around…laying things out to appear a certain way that they may not actually be.
 
verbaluce on April 17, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 
Sorry you joked about dead kids at Newtown, verbaluce. Feel free to click the link to the thread and unedited quote.
 

From The Onion…and a few months ago…not recently –
 
NRA Sets 1,000 Killed In School Shooting As Amount It Would Take For Them To Reconsider Much Of Anything
‘Yeah, Something Like 1,000 Dead Kids,’ Reports Spokesperson
 
verbaluce on December 21, 2012 at 2:16 PM
 
http://hotair.com/archives/2012/12/21/nra-chief-the-only-thing-that-stops-a-bad-guy-with-a-gun-is-a-good-guy-with-a-gun/comment-page-2/#comment-6590714

 
Also feel free to point out where I “moved quotes around” or “laid things out to appear a certain way that they may not actually be.”
 
Sorry you get upset when people point out that you laughed about murdered children.
 
I can see why you’d lash out and try to claim it was something other than your direct quote.

rogerb on April 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Take that back about Duck Dynasty! And, How do you square Jersey Shore?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I will not take it back. Jersey Shore is a classy show…

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Hold on here:

“crowd runner” http://thenewsjunkie.com/photo-shows-suspect-currently-in-custody-for-boston-marathon-bombing/

who does suggest being a female…wearing short sleeved black top, no hat,

is NOT the same person as

http://i.imgur.com/aCjGrD0h.jpg

guy in black long sleeved shirt wearing white cap, carrying large backpack.

Two different individuals.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Yes, agree with both of you.
Environmental-socio-political Leftwing of a variety of ethnicities and associations but it seems to be a case of “the angry Leftwing extremist” attacking “the traditional fun Americana” of families and health, etc.
Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Yep. Wouldn’t be surprised.

bluegill on April 17, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I owned this site.

Such Maturity. No wonder you’re a Democrat!

Just curious, Kid…did you also correctly predict that your guy would LOSE the college graduate vote to Romney, while WINNING a new alltime record high number (80%!) of the high school dropout vote?

Z-

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM

It’s fun to be back and rubbing your noses in the rancid stench of defeat. Heck, even that Salon guy was a winner in all of this.

gumbyandpokey on April 17, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Such Maturity. No wonder you’re a Democrat!

I understand your utter childlike joy in seeing your Cult Leader re-elected. But what exactly did he “win”, other than the election? Since Election Day he’s presided over the worst school massacre in American history (in a Democrat State) as well as the worst terror attack against American civilians on US soil in almost 12 years.

And that attack took place in a solidly Democrat city where 79% of the residents voted for your Cult Leader. A city that is also the hometown of our current Secretary of State.

He also got exposed as a bald-faced Liar after his Fearmongering re. the Sequester failed spectacularly, and just today his Democrat-controlled Senate could not even pass his pet gun control legislation.

As for the Salon dude, he’s as sad as you are. Remember, he “wrote” that Leftist Wet Dream for an internet site that would have folded nearly 15 years ago, if not for a few rabid wealthy Democrats. Their current “stock” value is 25 cents a share.

I actually feel almost as sorry for that Salon guy as I do for you and the rest of your fellow Democrats. He, and you all, cannot admit that 4/15 was a massive failure of Democrat policies-especially since it happened in as solidly Blue a city and State as one will find anywhere. And since he (and you all) are loathe to admit the failure of those policies, you’re all desperate to find an alternate villain.

Z-

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Z-

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Del, please don’t poke the little troll.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:40 PM

And, How do you square Jersey Shore?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

LOL-I would rather watch the rednecks. (I kid..heard of that duck dynasty show..I hate reality TV..no watchy for me)
But I enjoy sister wives myself,on occasion.
Ya know, on the TLC…The learning channel is very informative.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:41 PM

h/t to RWM too. She is the awesome.
She should have her own show..
The Down Low
with SophieRo.

We have her..the left has sesesspool and libanddie.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

Thanks, but we are going to need another name. That one reminds me of Jeremiah Wright’s ‘Down Low Club,’ which is allegedly some bathhouse.

lol

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Rick Levanthal on FNC reports that LE is circulating photos of two men they want to question, but neither are in custody yet. He said he’s seen the photos, but FNC won’t show them for fear of jeopardizing the investigation.

petefrt on April 17, 2013 at 6:43 PM

You never saw an episode of Buck-Wild or Duck-Dynasty I guess….

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:16 PM

I’ve never seen either, but then I don’t watch reality television.

I stand by my statement.

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:44 PM

http://i.imgur.com/aCjGrD0h.jpg

guy in black long sleeved shirt wearing white cap, carrying large backpack.

Two different individuals.

Lourdes on April 17, 2013 at 6:30 PM

It’s also a different guy in a white hat than the one gandp posted. The man in your photo resembles a Middle-easterner.

All of this is just supposition though at this point. The man standing next to him looks MI also but there’s another man not four feet to their left with a big ruck himself. At this point, who really knows.

hawkdriver on April 17, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Jersey Shore is a classy show…

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Lemme guess..your of Italian descent and from Jersey?
Stickn’ up for your peeps? ;) (kid)

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM

“Warm-Ale Conservatism”?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM

“Bangers, Mash and Tory-Talk”?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Lemme guess..your of Italian descent and from Jersey?
Stickn’ up for your peeps? ;) (kid)

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:46 PM

No. German “emigrated” from the mid-west…

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Take that back about Duck Dynasty! And, How do you square Jersey Shore?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM

I will not take it back. Jersey Shore is a classy show…

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:27 PM

JWow and Snooki’s show’s even betterer.

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:52 PM

It looks like the other dude is talking into his hand:

http://i.imgur.com/Hypepcm.jpg

Punchenko on April 17, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Again if this are the real pictures of the terrorist(s) I am 100% certain that they are from Middle Eastern background… I know how Middle Easterns look like more than 99.99% of the population…

mnjg on April 17, 2013 at 4:25 PM

As someone whose family is from the Balkans/Mid-East region, let me explain the game.

The term Caucasian was originally coined to designate people from the Caucus region.

Over time, it’s come to a general meaning of “white”.

If these two gents are the bombers, what the Feds/DHS/Media etc are doing is using the legal/forensic definition of “Caucasian” to hide that they are most Northern African/Syrian/Turkish/Jordanian/Iraqi/Persian/Azerbaijani/Lebanese/Palestinian plus surrounding states.

Because they are “not Arabic”, they would not be Middle Eastern or Arabs.

Again, if these are the two, my gut says Egyptian, Syrian or Hezbollah. They are too well assimilated and comfortable to be from the warzones or outer regions. Between certain engrained parts of the Boston population and the colleges, it would be very easy for these two guys to blend in as sleepers.

If I’m right and it’s one of the above three, it’s not hard t understand all the obfuscation a year before mid-terms.

budfox on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

And, How do you square Jersey Shore?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:24 PM
LOL-I would rather watch the rednecks. (I kid..heard of that duck dynasty show..I hate reality TV..no watchy for me)
But I enjoy sister wives myself,on occasion.
Ya know, on the TLC…The learning channel is very informative.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Yes, I now know how to gather me some wives and talk them into sharing and cooking and birthing.

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

lol

Resist We Much on April 17, 2013 at 6:42 PM

well damn! I thought it was catchy,liked the rhyme
and it fit you!
Okay..I shall think of a new one.

Your name already gets a song stuck in my head..
I was a Rancid fan back in the day..
The song-Ruby SoHo.
When someone says your name-or when I go to your blog..
song starts in my head,, Ruby,Ruby,Ruby SoHo.
But I didn’t think u wanted me calling u Ho! lol..

Sorry..delirious..long day..heart breaking news..
Back on topic..before I ramble further.

Thought when I got off work..hoped there would be some positive news..
Well, going through the gun bill thread..so got some.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Yes, I now know how to gather me some wives and talk them into sharing and cooking and birthing.

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

They’d have to share…the pressure cooker.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Yes, I now know how to gather me some wives and talk them into sharing and cooking and birthing.

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

They’d have to share…the pressure cooker.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Shuffle it between houses in a backpack?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 6:57 PM

One house, many wiminz. Good luck.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:58 PM

No. German “emigrated” from the mid-west…

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM

Just teasing you.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Again, if these are the two, my gut says Egyptian, Syrian or Hezbollah. They are too well assimilated and comfortable to be from the warzones or outer regions. Between certain engrained parts of the Boston population and the colleges, it would be very easy for these two guys to blend in as sleepers.

If I’m right and it’s one of the above three, it’s not hard t understand all the obfuscation a year before mid-terms.

budfox on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM

It’s been acknowledged by US intel sources for many years that several cells operate in the Boston area, including al Qaeda and the National Islamic Front.

Map here…

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Identifying the clothing someone is wearing is not identifying a suspect.
Everyone is acting like an ostrich except their collective heads are not in the sand……..they are somewhere else.

Art on April 17, 2013 at 7:02 PM

My mom is of Greek decent..darker after a day on the boat
the some blacks.
She has a pressure cooker for Octopus…for many Greek recipes from
family handed down from the islands.
I have warned her she fits the profile.
Luckily, she has an Iron Clad alibi.
Back to the days of beating the Octo on a rock.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Reporter on Fox says he has seen the photos of the “two men” the feds are flashing around as suspects. He says “one has a backpack, one has a bag.” Says there are “numerous photos from many angles” of the two men. Says he won’t say anything else about their…description. Looks like it’s gonna be a sad, sad night for the “hope it’s a white guy” libs around here.

Click through these photos and ask yourselves: Are there any photos there that show two guys, one with a backpack, one with a bag? Numerous photos? From many angles?

And then ask yourself: How come no one in the Obamamedia is screaming “White guy! It’s a white guy!”

And then say to yourself — after you look at the photos — “Ohhhh, I seeeee. I understand now.”

Rational Thought on April 17, 2013 at 7:10 PM

Back to the days of beating the Octo on a rock.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Brings a wistful tear to my eye. The good old days.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Rational Thought on April 17, 2013 at 7:10 PM

That a very rational thought you’ve had there.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:12 PM

budfox on April 17, 2013 at 6:53 PM
It’s been acknowledged by US intel sources for many years that several cells operate in the Boston area, including al Qaeda and the National Islamic Front.

Map here…

Del Dolemonte on April 17, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Thats my understanding..as Del pointed out.

As for the clothing talk..
if it were a muslum..it if were me..
they arent going to dress in Islamic garb.
They would want to look like they fit in and not suspicious.
Whoever said earlier..looking very Americana. Ball cap,hoody..ect
All very common..not sticking out.

I didnt read through all the comments..but I don’t know where a “female” comes in as mentioned. The pics clearly showed males pointed out..from my view. That is what usually happens when we aren’t given info..everyone starts speculating everything..till it is all confused.
Guess I will wait for the news conference or when we get 100% concrete reports.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:17 PM

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:05 PM
Brings a wistful tear to my eye. The good old days.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:11 PM

heh…for who? lol..us women?
my cousin owns a Greek restaurant and his trick to tenderize it is to use washers on the spin cycle.
My mom does sit in the garage with a mallet and beats the hell out of the conch we get. A lot of work but does the trick.

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:20 PM

heh…for who? lol..us women?

bazil9 on April 17, 2013 at 7:20 PM

Why do you think I’m so wistful?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Just as believable as everything else is an anomymous blurb that states that

This is an Operation Northwoods type false flag operation. According to the text, a raid will be performed friday on the domicile of a “lone wolf” young man in his twenties with mental stability issues who used reloading powder to create the exploding cookware. There will then be a ginned up public outcry which will result in an already created PR campaign push to further regulate reloading powders and limit ammo purchases.

You guys probably already heard about it, but I thought I’d share since Ed might be part of the scheme and might miss deleting one of these very damning posts.

ROCnPhilly on April 17, 2013 at 7:40 PM

From Drudge:

Obama meets with Saudi foreign minister, was not on public schedule…

Rational Thought on April 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM

From Drudge:

Obama meets with Saudi foreign minister, was not on public schedule…

Rational Thought on April 17, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Not much of a surprise, is it?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Not much of a surprise, is it?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

Is he bowing to foreign ministers now?

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Not much of a surprise, is it?

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 7:48 PM

No, but the feds have scheduled and then canceled another briefing, which was supposed to go at 8 p.m. Are they withholding information from the American public so Zero can rub the Saudi foreign minister’s shoulders and tells him it’s all gonna be OK? Disgusting. Just disgusting.

Rational Thought on April 17, 2013 at 7:53 PM

He has taken over. Do you suppose they will “disappear?” And the case will “never be solved?” And then we can keep speculating about “A white man.” Forever.

djl130 on April 17, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Apparently Baracka was foaming at the mouth at the press conference, blaming NRA for spreading ‘lies’ …heh,, the irony of that…Now he can’t do much but cross his fingers (or his legs) and hope that some loon somewhere wil be at it again shortly (god forbid, as far as I am concerned)

jimver on April 17, 2013 at 8:02 PM

He’s probably just warning the Saudis that when the Justice Dept. presents the white guy that did it to the public, that there might be some of us that will be holding on to wild conspiracy theories that middle-easterner did it and may take out our misguided anger on them.

oldroy on April 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM

I assume whoever is behind this is long gone from MA unless it was a local nut job.

By the time they identify anyone in the photos, assuming they will ever identify someone on the photos, they will be out of the country or in deep hiding, with their appearance changed.

Whoever did this had to know there would be cameras everywhere. They must have done all they could to make themselves hard to identify from a photo or video without making themselves conspicuous to other people in the crowd.

farsighted on April 17, 2013 at 8:27 PM

U.S. President Barack Obama met with Saudi Foreign Minister Prince Saud al-Faisal at the White House on Wednesday and discussed the conflict in Syria, a spokeswoman said.

The meeting was not on Obama’s public schedule.

Great.

For those that don’t know al-Faisal, he’s the strongman of Saudi Arabia. Right now, he supports the Syrian rebels over Assad.

So he opened a pipeline between the resistance and Saudi Arabia.

Which, once again, could lead to someone using a Saudi passport to get in, but actually, I dunno, turn out to be Syrian AQ.

Nice.

budfox on April 17, 2013 at 8:30 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57580158/arrest-made-in-ricin-mailing-investigation/?tag=breakingnews

*ahem*

libfreeordie on April 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Choking on all that hate?

ShadowsPawn on April 17, 2013 at 9:10 PM

Whoever did this had to know there would be cameras everywhere. They must have done all they could to make themselves hard to identify from a photo or video without making themselves conspicuous to other people in the crowd.

farsighted on April 17, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Exactly. You would have to have lived in a cave to not know this by now, or to wear low-visibility gloves and a hairnet so you don’t leave prints and hairs all over the place.

LEO’s biggest nightmare is the majority of criminals suddenly not being arrogant or mentally deficient.

MelonCollie on April 17, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Don’t miss this huge article, it’s a great roundup with a lot of pictures I had not yet seen.

Boston bomber ‘is trapped by his phone’: FBI ‘use phone records to identify suspect after he is spotted on store cameras talking on his cell just seconds before blast’

slickwillie2001 on April 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM

slickwillie2001 on April 17, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Daily Mail is wondering if the guy with the shredded clothing running away is the bomber? Really? Did he pre-shred his clothing before the blast? Looks like he has some blood on him, too.

After seeing that kind of speculation I’m having trouble taking Daily Mail’s reporting seriously.

Some good pics though.

farsighted on April 17, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Wow.

Every right wing redneck bitter clinger keeps a least a draw full of Tenergy C size NiMH batteries floating around.

WryTrvllr on April 17, 2013 at 9:59 PM

farsighted on April 17, 2013 at 9:52 PM

The guy was definitely close, though. Had a person or something between his legs and the blast.

The pack must have been leaning against the tree, road side.

ROCnPhilly on April 17, 2013 at 10:04 PM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57580158/arrest-made-in-ricin-mailing-investigation/?tag=breakingnews

*ahem*

libfreeordie on April 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Who’s mailing ricans? I thought they were welcome?
Oh, ricin.
Who cares?

RovesChins on April 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

In fairness to the rogerbee…nobody spends as much time putting Link to them if you have, btw. I’d be happy to read where I said it.
 
Or are you lying again?
 
rogerb on April 17, 2013 at 4:00 PM

 
Sorry, I don’t keep a stalking archive. Not that kind of person.
 
lester on April 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

 

In fairness to the rogerbee…nobody spends as much time putting together a comment. For most of us, For most of us, we’re just taking a moment to say something. But for the bee…he spends hours working through his files…digging through old unrelated threads…moving quotes around…laying things out to appear a certain way that they may not actually be. Think about how hard he works at this…how much time he spends at it…how busy it must keep him. Think of that next time you just casually type out a few sentences only to then spend time doing other things.
He deserves your respect!
 
verbaluce on April 17, 2013 at 4:31 PM

 

please be tolerant with rogerb. he’s, uh, special.
 
sesquipedalian on April 17, 2013 at 3:47 PM

 
So still no link, lester? Still lying?
 
verbaluce, you don’t want to point out where I “laid things out to appear a certain way that they may not actually be” in your Newtown ha-ha-dead-kids quote?
 
(I still think it’s cute that you somehow think a google search takes hours.)
 
Hey sesquipedalian. I know you’re just trolling again.
 
Thanks for the strong, evidence-based posts as always ad hominems, though.

rogerb on April 18, 2013 at 6:55 AM

Well, looks like crowdsourcing works for terrorist investigations as well. The pictures of the two men being circulated are indeed the two men identified by 4chan and others.

Chris of Rights on April 18, 2013 at 8:58 AM

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57580158/arrest-made-in-ricin-mailing-investigation/?tag=breakingnews

*ahem*

libfreeordie on April 17, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Oh, libby – where’d you go? Probably teaching the young minds. Ricin isn’t news if the perp is a Bubba that votes Dem and is upset about guns? Gong to be a tough day on college campi and newsrooms around the country…

oldroy on April 18, 2013 at 9:52 AM

The Blaze:

Sources tell TheBlaze that the Saudi national is set to be deported on “security and related grounds.” His visa also has been revoked. Below is some of the information that has been communicated to us:
1. One source at the FBI and another at the Saudi Embassy referred to the student as connected to an important Saudi family.
2. An “event” was created on this guy three days ago. An event is a file. The file contains his deportation record and the reason he is being deported. According to ICE the reason is under section 212 3B — “Security and related grounds” – “Terrorist activities”
3. His visa has been revoked.
4. The FBI said a file was started “just in case he was found to be connected to the crime,” however, the file shows he was scheduled to be deported. This was not a precaution, it was in “orders.”
5. One source said they believe a “voluntary” departure has been signed — that means the Saudi Student could be out of the country as early as today.
6. The file was immediately classified. We believe the deportation order will be classified as well — requiring a FOIA to get it.
7. The story was going to be “he wanted to go home,” however he was actually being deported.
8. Our source said the FBI believes the Saudi student is tied to 2 to 3 more people.
9. Our source said this “looks like they were trying to make this a ‘lone wolf’ crime so, the Saudi government would be spared embarrassment and the U.S. would avoid explaining how a terror cell was active when we had AQ on the run.”

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

Chris of Rights

My understanding is that the two men are local runners and have been identified. Pic of man in blue:

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/544897_10151630611492502_1375291541_n.jpg

Source:

http://www.reddit.com/r/findbostonbombers/comments/1cjjl3/the_innocent_hunt/

The “person of interest” from Lord & Taylor video has not been released to the public, only to LOE.

luckybogey on April 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

The Blaze reports that they have been tipped that the authorities are having second thoughts and now deportation the “person of interest” may not be allowed.

petefrt on April 18, 2013 at 10:51 AM

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