WaPo/ABC poll shows Obama under water on budget proposal

posted at 2:01 pm on April 16, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

According to a new poll from the Washington Post and ABC News, the latest budget proposal from Barack Obama has about as much support as his previous two proposals.  Only 52% of Democrats approve of his budget, which turns out to be twice as many as do independents:

President Obama’s courtship of Republicans hit a critical point last week when he unveiled a budget proposal pitched as an effort at compromise. But a new Washington Post-ABC News poll finds Americans’ initial reactions to the framework tilting negative, with broad opposition from Republicans and little public support for a key idea to reduce increases in  Social Security payments.

Overall, roughly one-third of Americans offer no opinion on Obama’s budget, but those who do, lean against it (30 percent approve; 38 percent disapprove). The negativity stems from large opposition among Republicans (63 percent) and a negative split among independents (26 percent approve; 41 percent disapprove).

Interestingly, only 52% of Democrats oppose the proposal to use chained CPI to calculate benefit increases for inflation. while more than a third support the idea (36%).  More frustratingly, though, Republicans and Democrats also oppose the idea.  Even with the WaPo/ABC pollster asking the question properly, noting that chained CPI would change the calculation so that “benefits increase at a slower rate” rather than defining it as a cut, Republicans oppose it 39/49 and independents 36/53.

If we can’t even stand to slow down the rate of increase in entitlement spending, we’re not going to get far in resolving the massive debt cliff toward which we’re sprinting.

The issue may be the reason why the WaPo/ABC poll finally shows Obama in the same place as most other national pollsters do on approval rating — underwater.  That’s being driven by Obama’s rapid decline on economic policy … again:

President Obama’s overall approval rating is stuck at 50 percent among all Americans, and has slipped below 50 percent among registered voters for the first time since he won reelection five months ago — 47 percent of registered voters now approve, and 49 percent disapprove. As has been the case for the bulk of the past three years, most — 53 percent — disapprove of Obama’s handling of the economy. …

The poll also found continued pessimism about the job market and spreading frustration with the automatic spending cuts known as the sequester. Fully two-thirds say jobs are difficult to find in their communities — down from its heights during the recession, but unmoved over the past year. Disapproval of the sequester cuts has ticked up four percentage points over the past month, and the percentage saying the cuts have effected them personally is up eight points.

Negativity about the economy — barely more than three in 10 even see progress on the jobs front — continues to damp Americans’ enthusiasm for their political leaders.

Both of these trends portend a very difficult year for Obama, and for Democrats in general. As I note in my column for The Week, the dishonest approach in Obama’s budget to tax increases and a new effort to resist spending cuts of any kind by Democrats on the other end of Capitol Hill will reduce the party to nothing but tax-and-spend absolutists:

 McClatchy reported yesterday, as Americans rushed to file taxes already owed, that Obama only told half of the story on tax hikes in his budget. The actual total for all tax hikes and “fees” in the Obama budget comes to $1.1 trillion over the next 10 years, not the $580 billion announced by Obama in promoting his new proposal. This includes $75 billion in cigarette-tax hikes to fund expanded pre-school education, despite the dubiousness of claims that such warehousing of pre-school-age children actually improves their education. TIME‘s Joe Klein trotted out this inconvenient truth about the urge to spend more on Head Start despite evidence that it is “nearly worthless” as an example of the incompetence of the Obama administration. …

Nor does it help that Obama turned out to be just as sensitive to legal reductions in tax burdens as the opponents his campaign castigated all of last year. MSNBC host Joe Scarborough vented his disgust over the revelation that the Obamas reduced their effective tax rate to 18.4 percent for 2012, rather than set an example for the rest of the nation by eschewing deductions to pay the same rate as their staff. “He wants to jack tax rates up to 39 percent,” Scarborough told viewers, “and if you live in Connecticut or New York or Illinois or California, you’re paying over 50 percent in taxes after you take the local, the state, and the national! And Barack Obama, class warrior, is playing 18 percent in taxes. … Does ‘limousine liberal’ apply in this case?” …

With that it mind, it’s worth pointing out the newest effort from Democrats at the other end of Capitol Hill. Attempting to take a page from Grover Norquist and Americans for Tax Reform, Reps. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) and Mark Takano (D-Calif.) have started a pledge of their own — to vote against any kind of cuts to entitlement programs. The pledge comes in response to one of the few lucid signs in Obama’s budget, a switch to chained CPI as the calculation for annual increases in Social Security benefits. (Only in Washington can a reduction in future spending increases be called a “cut,” by the way, which is also the case with Obama’s proclaimed “spending cuts” in a budget that will spend more than any of his others.)

The slide underwater will continue, and may accelerate, as more of this budget becomes known.


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A Historic 0fer in the making

Jabberwock on April 16, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Eh, just bring the atrocity to Congress and let them vote on it, there is the real indicator of support.

Bishop on April 16, 2013 at 2:06 PM

It will not be long now until the head line above will cause the Secret Service of the Ruler to vist via the “Internet Security Dept.” and that type head line deleted along with the person/person who post it.

Take a good look at the eyes when the anger is in him, see the deep dark glow of hate, some selfhate, much more hate of the U.S. and us.

Great danger in those long low angery looks.

I have seen such looks, and soon after the looks comes real bad things.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The slide underwater will continue, and may accelerate, as more of this budget becomes known

Which it is so very important for the rat-eared coward to corral as many votes of greedy stupid people as he can- hence the drive for the hearts, minds, and votes of women, gays, and gun-haters.

Happy Nomad on April 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Yes, this poll has a partisan breakdown of 32/23/36 (D/R/I). Also, the gun and immigration portion of this poll is BS too.

jjnco73 on April 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Since these results are from an ABC poll, it’s likely that Obama’s popularity on the budget is about half of what ABC poll-results reflect.

Lourdes on April 16, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Yes, this poll has a partisan breakdown of 32/23/36 (D/R/I). Also, the gun and immigration portion of this poll is BS too.

jjnco73 on April 16, 2013 at 2:20 PM

If we’re to believe the results of 2012(and assume there wasn’t massive voter fraud), then the partisan breakdown in this poll isn’t too far off. In November it was D+6 and I don’t think the GOP has done much to win over voters since then.

Doughboy on April 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Take a good look at the eyes when the anger is in him, see the deep dark glow of hate, some selfhate, much more hate of the U.S. and us.

Great danger in those long low angery looks.

I have seen such looks, and soon after the looks comes real bad things.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM

I agree and have long said as much as you have, too.

Even when he’s engaging his “Teleprompter Performance” act, if you look carefully into Obama’s eyes, his expression is, indeed, piercingly hateful. Whatever his issues are — I’ve speculated about that many a time and likely have done so accurately but… when you see the real emotion expressed in this man’s eyes, there’s no mistaken that he harbors serious hostilities. Forget his flowery words, forget his Big Grin Act, take a close look at the person in his eyes.

Lourdes on April 16, 2013 at 2:26 PM

gop pushing to fund part of OBAMACARE are????

Who knew

PappyD61 on April 16, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Back to my comment on the other thread about the poll question asking about “a path to legalization” for “undocumented immigrants”. It was only adults. Look at this WaPo poll. Obama has 50-45 overall job approval with adults, but if you click on the detail Obama is upside down 47-49 with registered voters. If they did a poll with honest language of a granting amnesty to 11 million or more illegal aliens we would get different results.

Wigglesworth on April 16, 2013 at 2:36 PM

OT: Regal Cinemas just cut their employees’ hours to 30 or less to comply with Obamacare. This includes managers, many of whom are quitting in order to look for 40-hour gigs.

Doughboy on April 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM

OT, but Lindsey Graham will face a strong challenger in the primary next year. I live in the 3rd Congressional District where Cash nearly won the primary in 2010, narrowly losing a runoff to Jeff Duncan. I was impressed with the strength of his campaign, and with the man himself, whom I have met. Maybe we can finally get that worthless RINO out of there.

http://www.wspa.com/story/21992715/republican-cash-to-run-against-graham-in-2014

backwoods conservative on April 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM

In November it was D+6 and I don’t think the GOP has done much to win over voters since then.

Doughboy on April 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM

How could they? They’ve had to continue to be the adults while the rat-eared coward has been able hang out shiny baubles for stupid greedy women, gays, and illegals.

Happy Nomad on April 16, 2013 at 2:40 PM

If w[W]e can’t even stand to slow down the rate of increase in entitlement spending, [therefore] we’re not going to get far in resolving [resolve] the massive debt cliff toward which we’re sprinting.

FTFY

Fenris on April 16, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Speaking of polls:

April 15, 2013
Few in U.S. See Guns, Immigration as Nation’s Top Problems
The economy and jobs continue to be named as most important U.S. problems

http://www.gallup.com/poll/161813/few-guns-immigration-nation-top-problems.aspx?

These data, from an April 4-7 survey, underscore the prominence of economic issues in Americans’ minds, even as the economy continues its recovery from the recessionary depths of 2008.

In terms of specific economic issues, Americans most frequently name the economy in general (24%), jobs/unemployment (18%), and the deficit (11%). The percentage mentioning each of these economic issues is in the same broad range as has been the case each month this year so far, although a higher 20% mentioned the deficit as the nation’s top problem in January.

Guns Remains Low Priority for Americans
The 4% of Americans mentioning guns as the nation’s top problem is the same as it was last month

Colbyjack on April 16, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Take a good look at the eyes when the anger is in him, see the deep dark glow of hate, some selfhate, much more hate of the U.S. and us.

Great danger in those long low angery looks.

I have seen such looks, and soon after the looks comes real bad things.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on April 16, 2013 at 2:07 PM

“And, you know, the thing about a shark… he’s got lifeless eyes. Black eyes. Like a doll’s eyes. When he comes at ya, doesn’t seem to be living… until he bites ya, and those black eyes roll over white and then… ah then you hear that terrible high-pitched screamin’. The ocean turns red, and despite all the poundin’ and the hollerin’, they all come in and they… rip you to pieces.”

Quint, from the movie, “Jaws”

iurockhead on April 16, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Maybe we can finally get that worthless RINO out of there.

backwoods conservative on April 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Incumbency is hard to overcome. But the timing is interesting. Announce that you’re going to primary Graham just before crucial votes on gun-grabbing and amnesty. Might temper the RINO’s willingness to be scratched behind the ears by McCain for being a good lapdog.

Happy Nomad on April 16, 2013 at 2:44 PM

As I note in my column for The Week, the dishonest approach in Obama’s budget to tax increases and a new effort to resist spending cuts of any kind by Democrats on the other end of Capitol Hill will reduce the party to nothing but tax-and-spend absolutists:

No offense Ed but no one outside of the irrelevant HA sheep cares about your column.

HotAirLib on April 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

No offense Ed but no one outside of the irrelevant HA sheep cares about your column.

HotAirLib on April 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Says the irrelevant HA sheep. Oh, but no offense intended.

iurockhead on April 16, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Does the question about Obama’s budget proposal include the word “Obama”? It didn’t seem to. It says “do you approve of these budget cuts. It doesn’t use the word “Obama” in a question about budgets.

If it did the number approving would be significantly higher.

Or am I missing something?

happytobehere on April 16, 2013 at 2:50 PM

No offense Ed but no one outside of the irrelevant HA sheep cares about your column.

HotAirLib on April 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Reality cares.

Fenris on April 16, 2013 at 2:52 PM

If we’re to believe the results of 2012(and assume there wasn’t massive voter fraud), then the partisan breakdown in this poll isn’t too far off. In November it was D+6 and I don’t think the GOP has done much to win over voters since then.

Doughboy on April 16, 2013 at 2:23 PM

I will caution you, do not underestimate the number of Americans purchasing a gun for the very first time. This last January 2013, the FBI logged over 7 million Background checks in one month (31 days).

jjnco73 on April 16, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Incumbency is hard to overcome. But the timing is interesting. Announce that you’re going to primary Graham just before crucial votes on gun-grabbing and amnesty. Might temper the RINO’s willingness to be scratched behind the ears by McCain for being a good lapdog.

Happy Nomad on April 16, 2013 at 2:44 PM

It could be the timing, but it could just be getting an early start, which he did when ran for the House. He had himself so visible for so long that I considered him an almost prohibitive favorite. I think another timing factor will work in his favor, and that’s the growing resentment over the direction this country is going. There are times when incumbency can be a hindrance, and this may be one of them.

backwoods conservative on April 16, 2013 at 2:59 PM

No offense Ed but no one outside of the irrelevant HA sheep cares about your column.

HotAirLib on April 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I nominate HotAirLib for the “Foot-Shot” comment of the year. In one sentence he/she/it makes a statement, and disproves it in the same sentence! I stand in awe of such am amazing trickshot of ignorance!

(stands and applauds!)

dominigan on April 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

No offense Ed but no one outside of the irrelevant HA sheep cares about your column.

HotAirLib on April 16, 2013 at 2:46 PM

I nominate HotAirLib for the “Foot-Shot” comment of the year. In one sentence he/she/it makes a statement, and disproves it in the same sentence! I stand in awe of such am amazing trickshot of ignorance!

(stands and applauds!)

dominigan on April 16, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Never underestimate the power of human stupidity.

backwoods conservative on April 16, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Thus the real reason for amnesty. With the loinfovos finally starting to understand what a boondoggle this Obama and his policies are even they are starting to get it. When you’ve lost the loinfovos it’s time for the loinfolatinos grateful for the free pass into citizenship. Note to Boehner and the other RINOs you are either with us or against us….and 2014 looms.

neyney on April 16, 2013 at 4:31 PM

I wish he was underwater, literally.

msupertas on April 16, 2013 at 4:37 PM

OT: Regal Cinemas just cut their employees’ hours to 30 or less to comply with Obamacare. This includes managers, many of whom are quitting in order to look for 40-hour gigs.

Doughboy on April 16, 2013 at 2:38 PM

A 30 hour gig in Obamaville is pretty sweet. They may regret that decision.

msupertas on April 16, 2013 at 4:40 PM