Kerry: All you gun toters are scaring Japanese students, or something

posted at 1:21 pm on April 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

If you have felt disappointed because Secretary of State John Kerry hasn’t yet joined most of his Obama administration colleagues to offer an ignorant opinion on the gun debate, well, this post is for you. While on a trip to Asia ostensibly to deal with the crisis on the Korean peninsula, Kerry took time out to poll his hosts on their views of gun control:

It’s difficult to know where to start with this nonsense. First, as we have repeatedly pointed out, gun deaths have declined each year since the expiration of the nonsensical “assault weapons” ban in 2007, in every category.  You are twice as likely to die from “personal weapons” as from rifles of any kind, according to FBI crime statistics.  Gun ownership levels aren’t rapidly changing, and to the extent they are, the correlative drop in gun-related homicide victims at the very least means (a) the US is getting safer over the last several years, and (b) legal gun ownership isn’t statistically related to crime.

By the way, would these students feel safer in Chicago and Washington DC, where gun-control laws are much more prevalent?  If so, then those students should study statistical math before coming to the US.

Eliana Johnson at NRO points out that Kerry needs some work on statistical analysis, too.  According to a recent study, the reason Japanese students don’t travel as much to the US is because they don’t travel much at all any more, and there are fewer of them to make that decision:

In 2011, Japan sent 21,290 students to study in the United States, making it the seventh largest country of origin for international scholars. That was down 14% from the previous year, according to numbers from the Institute of International Education.

Figures have shown international study is down markedly among Japanese students to all destinations, including the United States. Experts have attributed the decline to Japan’s low birthrate, the expense of foreign study in a poor economy, and a desire among Japanese young people to remain at home rather than venture to other countries.

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He’d have to be kind of funny looking to play the part.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

He’d have to look like a horse and speak French to play the part.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Why, when we examine all that is wrong with America, do we continue to put dullards in positions of power?

FineasFinn on April 15, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Because we don’t audit our ballot boxes. Oh, and there’s that problem with the Republican party being pretty much the same as the Democrat party.

We also don’t prosecute traitors as long they rise to positions of power on the left.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:28 PM

The crucial difference in treatment of Americans upon capture by the Nazis tended to be by race — blacks were usually consigned to hard labor camps or summarily executed, while the more Aryan-looking whites were treated well.

unclesmrgol on April 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Surely, you aren’t trying to say that the nazis were racists, are you?

After all, the nazis were socialists…and everyone knows that socialists cannot be racists.

Like our American socialists/liberals/democrats.

/s/

Solaratov on April 15, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Was in Nanjing last week. When were you last?

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Why is that chip so big? Why does this make you superior?

Yet on average they live longer than Americans, somehow.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM

On a micro-level, yes, fish, veggies, rice…

On a macro level the entire nation is dying, due to older/younger imbalance.

Watching you is hilarious.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:30 PM

I know first hand that a lot of foreigners think of the US, as goes in the craphole inner cities.

Maybe Kerry should correct that perception by telling people it’s just Democrat dominated craphole inner cities where the excessive risk is? Like Chitcago.

MNHawk on April 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Kerry

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:32 PM

It’s very easy to say “Hey, look at those violent Americans with their guns!’…especially if it means you don’t have to look at your own sky-high knife crime (UK) or suicide (Japan) rates.

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

In any case, Japanese live significantly longer than either the UK or US population on average. Bottom line.

I suppose it’s the wakame

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Much longer and not only those that live in Japan. Asian-Americans have the longest life expectancy.

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Average life expectancy in Japan is about 82, in the US it’s about 79. I wouldn’t call that “Much longer”. Definitely not worth it to me to give up butter and BBQ’d ribs for raw fish and rice. My daughter in law is from Burma. They eat catfish soup for breakfast. I’ll pass on that too.

Oldnuke on April 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Foreigners’ impression of the US is way down under Obama.

The Nobel was all for naught. It’s schadenfreudig to watch, both the foreign fools and Obama’s crappy camps. Most of all it’s fun to watch the fools who were fooled.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:34 PM

How about this for a show. A guy whose wife owns a Ketchup company flies around the world as the American Secretary of State. He’d have to be kind of funny looking to play the part.

He’d be part of an ensemble cast in “Captain Zero’s Heroes”, the Continuing Adventures of Barry and his Lost Planet Airheads.

hawkeye54 on April 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM

So what? The nation is dying.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM

I can not and will not support politicians who support any more limits on our Second Amendment rights.
….Sarah Palin

I join Sarah Palin – I won’t support any member of Congress who votes for more gun control laws.
….Mark Levin

Both Levin and Palin marking a line and throwing a gauntlet…..what say you Rush??

tencole on April 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM

legal gun ownership isn’t statistically related to crime

That is likely true, but it is not demonstrated here.

It is equivalent to saying hight is not related to genetics since in many generations, but not all, the younger gerneration is taller than the parent generation.

burt on April 15, 2013 at 2:35 PM

“Number two, I would argue if you want to sell your gun to your son, maybe you have a problem in your family,” he said.
PappyD61 on April 15, 2013 at 1:35 PM

I was hoping there would be a thread on this quote.
I think it is far more likely for the transaction to be the other way around – and that would still be a problem with the law.
My son might be moving to Kalifornia for a job, and I don’t think his AK-47 would be welcome there. So I’ve been talking about buying it from him – 1) to keep it in the family (and he gets it back when I croak), 2) to give him cash either for the move or to buy the S&W 686 he wants – which would be legal in Kali.

dentarthurdent on April 15, 2013 at 2:36 PM

DarkCurrent advocating for Asia, again. Hopefully all the propaganda pays.

Heh, Ms. Lindsey strikes.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:37 PM

To the ‘afraid’ students – go/stay home!!! Solve your domestic problems.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:38 PM

In any case, Japanese live significantly longer than either the UK or US population on average. Bottom line.

I suppose it’s the wakame

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Love the stuff. Has a lot of mercury in it apparently.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:38 PM

OT – Bmore, scroll down, for picture of the day. Have hurl bag ready.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM

I remember reading in college about a Japanese exchange student who lived in Louisiana. He went trick-or-treating with a friend before being shot for crossing on a portion of some guys lawn. His friend traveled to Japan to personally apoligize to the family for their son’s death. He was accepted as family and invited to return at any time to live at the house.

Moral of the story? Japanese family values seem to be pretty good and offer up forgiveness willingly. I do not think they are afraid of guns.

antisense on April 15, 2013 at 2:39 PM

On a macro level the entire nation is dying, due to older/younger imbalance.

Watching you is hilarious.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Aren’t you the joker who tells us America is beyond recovery nearly every day?

Schadenfreude indeed.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM

How about this for a show. A guy whose wife owns a Ketchup company flies around the world as the American Secretary of State. He’d have to be kind of funny looking to play the part.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Yeah… unfortunately Fred Gwynne passed away several years ago, so they would need to find another Herman Munster look-alike.

UltimateBob on April 15, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Average life expectancy in Japan is about 82, in the US it’s about 79. I wouldn’t call that “Much longer”.

Oldnuke on April 15, 2013 at 2:33 PM

In 2010, the average life expectancy in the US was 77.97. In Japan, it was 82.73 years, the longest in the world. Making the difference 4.76 years.

The average life expectancy of Asian-Americans is 87.28 years.

For Hispanic-Americans, the average life expectancy is 83.48 years.

For white Americans, the average life expectancy is 78.74 years.

For black Americans, the average life expectancy is 74.27 years.

People can debate quality of life or whether nearly 5 years of additional life is a good trade-off for a life without BBQ ribs, but the point is that Japan is an aging society with a decreasing school-aged population. While it is undeniable that a college student doesn’t have to be 18-34, it is a fact that Japanese students, who have come to the US to attend school, are in that age group. It is further a fact that the number of Japanese in that age group is shrinking.

It should be self-evident that an aging population with a smaller number of school-aged adults is going to send fewer of them overseas to attend university.

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

People can debate quality of life or whether nearly 5 years of additional life is a good trade-off for a life without BBQ ribs,

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Japanese have yakiniku, Korean in origin and much better than American BBQ.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

It should be self-evident that an aging population with a smaller number of school-aged adults is going to send fewer of them overseas to attend university.

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:47 PM

There might be another large influx of Korean immigrants to Japan soon… probably won’t be gun toting Koreans though. They will probably take over every Japanese Restaurant in Tokyo.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Japanese have yakiniku, Korean in origin and much better than American BBQ.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Blasphemer!
Heretic!
You should be drawn and quartered and the pieces burned on a camel dung fire! :-

Oldnuke on April 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Blasphemer!
Heretic!
You should be drawn and quartered and the pieces burned on a camel dung fire! :-

Oldnuke on April 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Um. Korean barbeque is good stuff – I’d have to agree. Won’t go farther than that though – wouldn’t want to be burned at the stake in the stampede of retribution.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:57 PM

unfortunately Fred Gwynne passed away several years ago, so they would need to find another Herman Munster look-alike.

Casting Brad Garrett of “Everybody Loves Raymond” might work. :) Kinda close.

hawkeye54 on April 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Three years ago we had a Japanese exchange student live with us. We took her shooting and deer hunting. She said the deer hunting was scary but when she came back for a visit last fall at the top of her list of things she wanted to do was go shooting.

Gunlock Bill on April 15, 2013 at 2:58 PM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

So nonintelligent posts the above and of course I need to go and find the below:

this is pretty horrid, hadn’t heard about this before reading this on hotair

nonpartisan on April 9, 2013 at 4:09 PM

But while searching for the above I found this in a post by Allahpundit titled, Is Obama planning a moment of “national healing” for Kermit Gosnell’s victims?:

I find it distasteful that this site deliberately chooses ‘ugly’ pictures of president Obama to go along with its posts

nonpartisan on March 21, 2013 at 3:11 PM

Please notice the dates of the two posts above.

Nonintelliegent is as thoughtful, inquisitive, insightful, and intelligent as my used toilet paper.

NotCoach on April 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM

You should be drawn and quartered and the pieces burned on a camel Yak dung fire! :-

Oldnuke on April 15, 2013 at 2:54 PM

Fixed that.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Aren’t you the joker who tells us America is beyond recovery nearly every day?

Schadenfreude indeed.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM

The joke’s on you. What recovery. Have you seen the news?

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM

NotCoach on April 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Very sorry, wrong thread.

NotCoach on April 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Plus, I don’t propagandize for her demise. You do.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM

NotCoach on April 15, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Heh, wrong thread but you are doing excellent work, backing rogerb.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:02 PM

The topic is about ‘scared’ weasels, sissies and eunuchs who don’t like that the US is not so gun free.

Go home scum, and take care of your ratholes.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:03 PM

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:40 PM

You are the shame of the land. Too bad you were born in such liberty.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:04 PM

And the pesky little fact that the foreign student population grows every year:

2008-671,000 2011 723,000 2012-764,000

Almost like they suspect the rubes will actually, ya know, like, dude, just accept any tripe that is shoveled their way.

maninthemiddle on April 15, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Ed, Anecdotal, but no doubt more truthful and representative than Kerry’s insight:

A few years back talking with the folks at Bill’s Gun Shop shooting range in Robbinsdale MN, they said that on many occasions they had groups of Japanese tourists/students stop in and rent a few of their sub-machine guns a whole bunch of ammo and let loose, having a great time.

RJL on April 15, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Japanese have yakiniku, Korean in origin and much better than American BBQ.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:50 PM

a)A matter of opinion.

b)Different…not better.

c)It’s good, then, that you’ve given up on America and gone Asian.

Solaratov on April 15, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I don’t know…ask around about that the next time you are in Nanking.

oldroy on April 15, 2013 at 1:59 PM

My attitude towards Japanese culture have been colored by my readings of the Rape of Nanking and the Ghost Soldiers of the Philippines. Brutal does not begin to describe how this nation acted during WWII.

freedomfirst on April 15, 2013 at 3:27 PM

RJL, your anecdotal data is replicated in other locales. Where I am, a SoCal city with a few universities and a large Asian foreign student population, my indoor range is rarely less than 1/3 full of foreign Asian students. It is also, according to the staff there, a regular stop for visiting groups of Asian tourists, esp. Chinese. Generally speaking I am talking about younger folks – rarely see older folks in these groups.

I avoid “the news” partly to avoid the aggravation of being reminded that such a vapid loathsome non-entity as Kerry is SecState (not that this is a step down from his idiotic predecessor). How nice that, like his blood-stained airheaded power-mad predecessor, Kerry is beclowning himself and further degrading the nation by apolgizing/explaining for mythological “problems” of the sort cretins like him are using to torture and destroy the US back home.

A half-boiled frog, I suppose, by definition doesn’t feel that uncomfortable. How many Americans are aware of how degraded their country has become under the “rule” of these alien nitwits the last few years?

IceCold on April 15, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Plus, I don’t propagandize for her demise. You do.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 3:00 PM

So you suppose, but I doubt you’ll often find me in factual error :)

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 3:40 PM

So you suppose, but I doubt you’ll often find me in factual error :)

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 3:40 PM

When you live at the corner of Propaganda Street and America-Hate avenue, that’s a pretty hilarious claim.

MelonCollie on April 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM

When you live at the corner of Propaganda Street and America-Hate avenue, that’s a pretty hilarious claim.

MelonCollie on April 15, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Make it a challenge. Find a factual error. Good luck :D

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM

It’s not an error that you are a propaganda-for-Asia, against the US dude.

Go home/away, and stay there, all who don’t like the US and her Bill of Rights.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 4:18 PM

As I recall, Japanese living in America have lower murder and suicide rates than Japanese living in Japan. So much for our evil lax gun laws.

Besides, how would Kerry know what Japanese students want? He speaks French, not Japanese.

Socratease on April 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Why isn’t every bleet about guns from the left answered, ” Citizens in possession of firearms checks the potential totalitarian dreams of a sick government, far left or far right. They are the last votes of a free people. There is a price to pay like with every thing in life.

BL@KBIRD on April 15, 2013 at 4:21 PM

BL@KBIRD on April 15, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I don’t think this is a bad thing. Who would we rather have coming to America: a wussy beta who’s afraid of all sorts of things and willingly trades his freedom for safety, or a foreigner with some brass ones, who rocks freedom and liberty and empowerment? The first set of immigrants give us squalid shantytowns with the residents begging for bread. The second gives us pioneers who want to move up in the world and have as much liberty and happiness in their life as possible. I think the second group makes *much* better immigrants, and eventually citizens.

GWB on April 15, 2013 at 4:22 PM

It’s not an error that you are a propaganda-for-Asia, against the US dude.

Go home/away, and stay there, all who don’t like the US and her Bill of Rights.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Now for Asia generally? I seem to have been promoted.

Find factual errors.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Now for Asia generally? I seem to have been promoted.

Find factual errors.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Not an error – capos get promoted too.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 5:22 PM

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 4:43 PM

Not an error – you mobies always change the topic of a thread.

You use food as a ‘weapon’.

Schadenfreude on April 15, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Perhaps it will remind them why the Imperial Navy and Army decided not to invade the U.S. in 1942!

Another Drew on April 15, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Go to hell Kerry.

Actually, you should already be there. If you werent such as puss you likely would not have made it back from the war you protested.

TX-96 on April 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Kerry’s just sad/mad/embarrassed he can’t get more foreign students here to fill their noggins with good ol’ USA-made lib/proggie cr@pola.

Marcola on April 15, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Dear Jon Cary . . .

Well . . . it’s . . . too bad those guns didn’t scare “a young person who was here on a student visa,” according to NBC News.

Trochilus on April 15, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Was watching some video a few months ago…. one of the top vacation destinations for Japanese now is to Okinawa or Guam (one of the islands over there)to go shooting at a range. They get to try out revolvers, pistols, shotguns, rifles, etc. Video showed dozens of happy Japanese getting to shoot.

mjzman on April 15, 2013 at 8:39 PM

Okay, let’s try this again . . .

Dear Jon Carry . . .

Well . . . it’s . . . too bad those guns didn’t scare “a young person who was here on a student visa,” according to NBC News.

. . .
There is no suspect in custody, authorities say, but some people are being questioned, including some with injuries who were taken to Boston hospitals. One of those, a person in whom there is some interest, is a young person who was here on a student visa,” NBC reports.
. . . .”

Trochilus on April 15, 2013 at 8:41 PM

This fear would have come in quite useful on December 7th, 1941.

JackM on April 16, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Make it a challenge. Find a factual error. Good luck :D

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Not really an honest challenge. You haven’t really made any falsifiable claims.

The closest you’ve come is saying Asians have a longer life expectancy but you didn’t assign a reason to it that might demonstrate an actual point to saying so.

The Schaef on April 16, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Ed, stop it. You’re doing the same thing that people like Chris Matthews does – twist people’s words. We bitch all the time when a liberal reporter misquotes the right so don’t stoop to their level. Unless you otherwise have proof that he meant entirely something else, take his words at face value. He said that they were afraid to be in the U.S. because of all the shootings that have taken place. There was no reference to gun-toters or the 2nd amendment. I don’t like the guy either but that doesn’t mean that I’m going to start putting words in his mouth and misquote him.

RMCS_USN on April 16, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Resist We Much on April 15, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Yet on average they live longer than Americans, somehow.

DarkCurrent on April 15, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Only the good die young./

S. D. on April 16, 2013 at 9:53 PM

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