Front row at the Gosnell horror show

posted at 8:01 am on April 15, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Documentarian Phelim McAleer and his wife recently produced the film FrackNation, which presented the largely unreported truth about hydraulic fracturing — that it’s safe, it’s tremendously useful, and the horror stories told by its opponents are mostly fantasy. Phelim stumbled across another largely unreported story about a real horror, and my friend offered to tell it to Hot Air readers today.

Front Row at the Gosnell Horror Show
By Phelim McAleer

So there I was in Philadelphia with a few free days during the recent PA tour of my documentary FrackNation.

What to do with the free time? Friends made suggestions. But from the moment I was invited on the PA tour I knew that as a reporter and news junkie there was only one place to spend my downtime.

It was, of course, the Kermit Gosnell murder trial. I say “of course” because it would be reasonable to assume that most Americans know some of the details of a trial where a doctor is charged with murdering seven children and patients in his clinic.

But in reality most Americans know nothing about the case. When I mentioned on Facebook where I was going the reaction was mostly bewilderment and then horror as they learned the details. Then they were angry that they knew so little about the case. But more on that later.

Philadelphia Criminal Justice Center is very much like all courthouses I’ve covered as a reporter in the past 20 years. The defendants hang around smoking, admiring each others’ tattoos, a few mothers and girlfriends look anxious beside men who are doing their best not to look anxious. And the lawyers walk past, beautifully dressed, talking loudly to their colleagues but in a way that seems designed to impress others several feet away.

And it is busy–very, very busy. People are walking everywhere and milling around. The elevators are so jammed I learned pretty quickly to take the stairs or be trapped in a slow moving box that takes forever.

But make your way up to room 304 and the busyness stops. There’s a single security guard sitting in a chair with a large stack of newspapers. She has plenty of time to chat as you walk through the metal detector.

Inside the courtroom is lopsided. Behind a barrier are the court officials, the jury, the defendant, the lawyers. There is activity as they prepare. Kermit Gosnell seems to be constantly making notes and sharing them with his lawyer. The public side of the courtroom is practically empty and really, really quiet. There are several rows set aside for media. There are just three local reporters. They are outnumbered by a group of pro-life activists.

Then the evidence starts. I used to be a crime reporter and I know that trials have ebbs and flows. And that sometimes you can have the “boring but necessary procedural bits” that are so boring to sit through and impossible to report.

But the Gosnell trial turned this model on its head. Even the boring medical evidence was horrific, and like every reporter when my brain registered “horrific,” I also was thinking “wow, what a great story.” (I think that is why so many journalists get killed in war zones; their brains are different, always thinking about great stories. They don’t see the danger coming until it hits them–sometimes quite literally).

Take for example the evidence of Dr. Fredrick Hellman, the chief medical examiner of Delaware County who became involved when one of Gosnell’s patients gave birth to a dead fetus at a local hospital. Dr. Hellman has a reassuring competent air and his list of qualifications went on and on; you could feel the energy being sucked out of the room as he listed what he had done and where he had worked.

His evidence was similarly lengthy and exhaustive. He was frequently asked to spell the names of drugs and spell out what he meant as his evidence became more and more technical. He described the night in September 2007 when he investigated the remains of Baby Girl Manning who had presented as “a fetal death” at Crozier Chester Hospital.

He talked about charts and measurements and assumptions, and then the District Attorney, in a question that seemed calculated to send the jury to sleep, asked:
“What did you observe externally about this baby of pathological significance?”

Dr. Hellman replied: “I found what appeared to be a pretty well formed baby.”

Suddenly the energy came back into the room. And that is what the case is about. Well formed babies that Dr. Gosnell is alleged to have removed from women by inducing delivery or “precipitating,” as he called it. Then, because they were alive and breathing, he or members of his staff would plunge scissors into the back of the neck and sever the spinal cord. He is charged with doing this seven times, but it is thought he may have done it to hundreds of infants.

The evidence that kept emerging the few days I was there is jaw dropping and poignant. Dr. Hellman explained all the charts that medical professionals have to work out the age of a fetus. They measure the length and width of the baby, they weigh organs, and they compare them to charts of previous autopsies of babies whose age they knew. Dr. Hellman said that based on the charts, he conservatively estimated Baby Girl Manning was between 28- and 29-weeks-old.

He was asked about another incident where a member of staff described an “aborted fetus” as being 18 inches to a foot long. Dr. Hellman was asked to estimate the child’s age given those dimensions. He replied simply that such a baby would be “off the charts.” In other words it was a fully formed baby whose delivery was engineered so that Dr. Gosnell could push a pair of scissors into its neck to snip its spinal cord.

Then we heard from Ashley Baldwin who started to work at the clinic when she was 15.

A murder trial is a funny place for those who attend. It is a closed world, and it is often set in a strange world. In order to really understand what is happening the lawyers, journalists, and jury have to get to know strange people and often stranger places. And like all humans as we get to see more and more about these worlds and people we develop favorites.

And so it seemed to be with the Assistant District Attorney Joanne Pescatore. She obviously has a soft spot for Ms Baldwin. In fact she said as much in her opening remarks.

“Ashley Baldwin is probably my favorite person in this whole case. Ashley Baldwin was 15 when she was working at this facility. Ashley had a work roster from her high school. She was working on the front desk, collecting money, making appointments, that kind of stuff. Smart girl. So smart she could figure things out at 15-years-old. Then something happened and her job morphed into working in the recovery room, doing ultrasounds, drawing blood, giving medication. 15-years-old,” she explained to the jury.

Ms Baldwin was smart, but so were lots of people at the clinic. But what made her a favorite of Ms Pescatore was that despite not being qualified to dispense drugs or assist in the procedures, she seemed to care more than most about the welfare of the patients. In a clinic where, according to investigators, blood and unsterilized equipment was everywhere and murder was a daily occurrence, Ms Baldwin in this perverse universe tried hard to minimize the harm.

She may not have known what exactly was in the drugs she administered but she color coded them to ensure that she and the staff would know what they had given to whom.

In the Women’s Medical Center that was enough to mark you as caring.

Ms Baldwin is now 20 years old. She looks unremarkable and at first sounds unremarkable but then you realise she is a very focussed young woman. You could see her concentrate as she tried to remeber the details of her career at the Women’s medical center. She helped “precipitate” many births–so many she can’t remember the number. Often they were delivered in the toilet. On at least five occasions the babies were moving after being “precipitated.” One was crying. She said it cried just like her own baby “when she first had him.”

She helpfully explained that her son was six pounds when he was born and the baby that was “precipitated” in the toilet was a similar size.

She explained it “looked like a regular baby” and that “there was hair all over it.”

Then there was another baby so big that even Dr. Gosnell joked that it was old enough it could have “walked him home.”

It Is difficult to write about the Kermit Gosnell trial. Almost all the evidence is horrific. As a reporter I want to make this a 5,000 word article but the details are tiring; it is actually hard to believe the moral universe that existed behind the doors of the Women’s Medical Center. And then I remember the hands and feet.

I watch a lot of detective dramas on TV; they tend to focus a lot on serial killers. And often the detectives talk about serial killers taking trophies of their victims. Now I’m sure that not all serial killers take trophies. It makes for a few great gruesome scenes in a TV series, so all TV serial killers seem to collect mementos from their victims. In reality those who take trophies often take scarves, driver’s licenses, or pieces of jewelry.

But it seems that Dr. Kermit Gosnell collected babies’ hands and feet. And he kept them in jars in the kitchen of his clinic. And the jars were transparent. So when you reached up for the coffee as you heated up your panini during lunch, you would have to brush past around 20 jars with the tiny severed hands and feet stored there.

Ms Baldwin would ask Dr. Gosnell about the jars. He told her they were for research, but she never saw any researchers collect them.

I could go on and on and on. And I only spent a few days at the trial. Every minute seemed to throw up new horrors. As a reporter, listening to such evidence was the easy part. Sitting at home now and reflecting on it is more difficult. Who are these people? What kind of world do they live in?

But the case also has a sense of unreality because there has been almost no media coverage of the evidence. There has been almost no analysis or comment regarding a man and his staff who may have taken part in one of the largest mass murders in American history. I find myself questioning my notes because there are almost no other reports verifying what I am now writing.  It seems that if a mass murder occurs and no one reports on it it starts to appear as if it never really happened.

This is probably evidence of media bias; journalists who are mostly pro-choice/pro-abortion are reluctant to cover stories that show abortionists in a bad light and would make the case for tighter regulation. There can be no other reason. I say this not to make political points but to simply point out reality.

I have covered the troubles in Northern Ireland and child trafficking in Indonesia and Romania. I have never come across a more sensational case. There is plenty of meat for the tabloid or the “serious” journalist. That they have mostly ignored it is part of the reason their industry is in decline.

I love the traditional media. I spent most of my career working for newspapers or trying to get my documentaries reviewed by them or by establishment TV channels.

But I’m falling out of love with them as they continually let me down. The Kermit Gosnell trial will last another five weeks or so. The media has that time to show they are serious about their profession or if they want to just manage their own decline.

We Wait.

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As the lsm covers the their butts
Outlier!

cmsinaz on April 15, 2013 at 8:10 AM

Time for obama to step up and advise us that oppose 3rd trimester abortions that we are “racists”.

acyl72 on April 15, 2013 at 8:12 AM

Jars of hands and feet? Dear God, have mercy.
And please don’t tell us Ashley is turning her life around and hopes for a career in the medical field.

indypat on April 15, 2013 at 8:14 AM

As I held my first grandchild this weekend I was thinking about what kind of soulless monster it would take to murder such a perfect little being.

I simply couldn’t conjure up anything that foul. Yet it happened and the disciples of the Church of Baby Killing in the news media turn their heads away and scream bloody murder about a basketball coach abusing his players.

God help our country.

VelvetElvis on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

If Gosnell had killed a homosexual, it would be all over the news.
Kill a hundred children? *yawn* the media elites say.

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Word of mouth, folks. Works like a charm.

John the Libertarian on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

If Gosnell had killed a homosexual, it would be all over the news.
Kill a hundred BLACK children? *yawn* the media elites say.

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

This is another reason why the liberal media doesn’t give a rip.

VelvetElvis on April 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Hanging is too good for him.

Snip his neck! Dull, rusty scissors.

Shy Guy on April 15, 2013 at 8:24 AM

I find it hard to believe that not one of these children was a son or daughter that obama never had

Aggie95 on April 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM

This is another reason why the liberal media doesn’t give a rip.

VelvetElvis on April 15, 2013 at 8:18 AM

I disagree. If it was simply a matter of them not “giving a rip”, they’d be somewhat innocent.

They care; believe me they care. They just don’t care about what YOU care about.

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2013 at 8:27 AM

This is probably evidence of media bias; journalists who are mostly pro-choice/pro-abortion are reluctant to cover stories that show abortionists in a bad light and would make the case for tighter regulation. There can be no other reason.

Probably? 20 little white kids get killed in the affluent suburb of Newtown CT and we have a media and politicians clamoring to upend our civil rights. Countless little black babies are murdered in the inner city of Philidelphia and we have largely been treated to the barest of information through a few outlets. Up until this weekend, there hasn’t even been any media investigation as to how Gosnell could have operated for 17 years without being shut down by the Department of Health.

The fact of the matter is that the media is invested into the idea that abortions are all about removing a mass of cells in an outpatient “procedure.” Masses of cells do not have hair and cry which is what makes this lack of reporting even more reprehensible.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:28 AM

After having been shamed into covering a story they sought to cover up, where will the liberal media focus? Will it be on the lie ‘right wing media’ didn’t pay attention, either? Or will they be patting themselves on the back for finally getting around to it, acting is if they were on top of it all along? How about a few polls, too, to make themselves the story instead of letting people know just how bad Gosnell is and might not be the only one?

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM

One was crying. She said it cried just like her own baby “when she first had him.”

How did she NOT run from that place with the baby in her arms? These people are unfeeling savages.

Let’s hear it, lefties and supporters, how the hell does a lump of tissue CRY?

Bishop on April 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM

If Gosnell had killed a homosexual, it would be all over the news.
Kill a hundred children? *yawn* the media elites say.

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Wow. That’s one inane comment.

JetBoy on April 15, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Every minute seemed to throw up new horrors.

Every minute of sitting through that trial would make me want to throw up.

ITguy on April 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM

But I’m falling out of love with them as they continually let me down.

He gives them too much credit.

It’s not a matter of them not meeting basic journalistic expectations. It’s a bit deeper than that, I’m afraid. They know exactly what they are doing.

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2013 at 8:33 AM

If Gosnell had killed a homosexual, it would be all over the news.
Kill a hundred children? *yawn* the media elites say.

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Or if Gosnell’s clients were illegals it would fit a narrative that we need to gift these criminals amnesty so that they don’t have to resort to such measures for abortions.

The reality is that the pro-murder crowd is hoisted on its own petard. For years they told us that abortion factories like Planned Parenthood needed to be protected so that women would not have to resort to “back alley abortions.” Well, here we have legal abortion and Gosnell whose abortion factory is far worse than anything the left could reasonably claim would occur if abortion were to be made less easy.

I’m glag Virginia just enacted legislation that will make these factories live up to hospital standards.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I’m honestly preparing myself for Gosnell to be acquitted.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

If one is too believe the LGBT community, he probably did kill some homosexuals.

catmman on April 15, 2013 at 8:35 AM

We all know if Gosnell had walked into a nursery and shot seven newborns with an AR-15 we’d be hearing about it every night.

Since he stabbed them in the neck with a pair of scissors (which are, you remember, the weapon of choice to oppose an active shooter, according to the government), it’s not really news.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:36 AM

Liam morning joe was already pushing the conservative outlets didn’t report this until now (bull)

cmsinaz on April 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM

I’m glag Virginia just enacted legislation that will make these factories live up to hospital standards.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

The baby killers are furious about that, claiming the standards aren’t ‘medically unnecessary’. That excuse begs the question of why they’re necessary for hospitals, then.

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Gah! Every time I read this I want to punch a hole in the wall. Thunking the blades of a scissors into the neck of a squirming infant and chopping through its spinal cord while it cries?

O_O O_O

I hate these people, there isn’t a word in the English language to describe how much.

Bishop on April 15, 2013 at 8:39 AM

After having been shamed into covering a story they sought to cover up, where will the liberal media focus?

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:29 AM

We’ve already seen the liberal media focus. The blame isn’t with Gosnell, the PA Dept of Health, or even the issue of late-term abortions. The culprit of Gosnell’s “house of horrors” is society! Gosnell was only providing a service to an unserved part of society. His workers had no other options for employment. His clients had no other place to go. All in all, we are all to blame.

BTW, WaPo has finally decided to send a reporter to Phillie to cover this case. Congrats or something.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

What we need is a modern day Upton Sinclair. Maybe Phelim McAleer could use his considerable tallents to write his novel. Call it, oh, I don’t know…The Jungle, or something like that.

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

The baby killers are furious about that, claiming the standards aren’t ‘medically unnecessary’. That excuse begs the question of why they’re necessary for hospitals, then.

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:37 AM

The fact of the matter is that Gosnell didn’t operate the only unregulated abortion mill in America. The baby killers don’t like all this scrutiny because it begs the question just how easy should it be to get an abortion. The answer to that question starts with greater regulation of the facilities that perform abortions.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I dread to think what kind of circus the MSM will turn this into when it’s all said and done. I’m certain there won’t be calls from any Dems for tighter oversight of these murder factories. Instead, I can see a push for looser restrictions. Any Republican calling for more and more thorough inspections will be excoriated withe the War on Women meme.

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM

you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Says the guy who loves abortion, but hates being confronted with the realities of the very procedure he supports.

You haven’t complained about a saturation of Sandy Hook coverage.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM

And let us down they will keep on doing. Why? Because Barack Obama supported this, this infanticide. This stain on humanity. No way, will they shine light no this, because that would mean asking Barack Obama, why he supports the killing of babies.

And we all know how they love to ask Barack Obama hard questions.

HerneTheHunter on April 15, 2013 at 8:45 AM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I know you’re not paying attention and that as a infanticide supporter you’d like this to just go away. But, new information keeps coming out of the trial that makes the earlier details seem like children’s stories.

Ed, please do not slow down on the Gosnell Clinic murder reporting at all. The whole country, whole world needs to hear what this man did.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Forgive me Ed but I cannot read anymore of the details. This trial has kept me up at night. This has made me sick.

My god comfort the souls of those poor little babies. I hope the people involved in this from the doctors to the mother’s spend a hot place in hell to spend eternity.

This has been going on for years with this guy. He is our very own Joseph Mengele….

Tilly on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Funny how people who support abortion can’t stomach the facts of abortion. The just pull the woman’s choice curtain over it all so they don’t have to look, and think.

Limerick on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

He is our very own Joseph Mengele….

Tilly on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

No, Tilly. He’s not ours. He belongs to the left.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

If Gosnell had killed a homosexual, it would be all over the news.
Kill a hundred children? *yawn* the media elites say.

itsnotaboutme on April 15, 2013 at 8:15 AM

Wow. That’s one inane comment.

JetBoy on April 15, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Maybe so, but is it untrue? I don’t think so. Sadly, it took a crime multiple crimes of this magnitude to lay bare the fact that Americans are generally more worried about doing what’s fashionable than doing what’s right (Are you reading this, Tom Ridge?!).

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:47 AM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

What part(s) of this story is or are untrue or exaggerated for emotional effect? Justify your accusations. I want to know just what it is you think makes this story so “sensationalized.”

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM

You haven’t complained about a saturation of Sandy Hook coverage.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:44 AM

But just Sandy Hook. Those little white children are martyrs to a larger cause. Nonpartisan doesn’t give a rip about the little black children killed in Chicago by drive-by gang shooting either.

Same principle holds here. The victims of Gosnell’s abortion mill are inconsequential becuase they do not further a liberal agenda item. For lack of a better term, I’d call it practicing “cafeteria concern.”

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Screw you slimeball. You’d make an Auschwitz prison guard uncomfortable. At least they had a moral compass albeit evil. Yours is just whatever allows you to get your jollies at the expense of everyone else.

acyl72 on April 15, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Any other type of sensationalist trial and Ashley Baldwin is Kato Kaelin right now — i.e. the trail witness whose story’s so compelling and connected to the case they’re the No. 1 ‘get’ for every major news outlet.

Instead, she’s a non-person to the national media — even though Baldwin was, and still might be, pro-choice. But the media know the effect of publicizing her testimony and that of others at the trial could be so hurtful to The Cause none of the details can be told, let alone by an eyewitness to the actions.

jon1979 on April 15, 2013 at 8:51 AM

He is our very own Joseph Mengele….

Tilly on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

He’s not as bad as Scott Roeder, the man who shot late-term abortionist George Tiller, I’m certain the Left believes. Liberals still call the murder an act of domestic terrorism. Sickening, that some liberals are hyperventilating over it after years, being sensationalistic.

Liam on April 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM

For lack of a better term, I’d call it practicing “cafeteria concern.”

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:49 AM

Oh, there are better terms. Using them would just get you (or me, for that matter) banned.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:52 AM

He is our very own Joseph Mengele….

Tilly on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

No, Tilly. He’s not ours. He belongs to the left.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

And he’s no Mengele. Gosnell did it all for profit. 15-year-olds work far cheaper than the licensed professionals who are supposed to do the job.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Any other type of sensationalist trial and Ashley Baldwin is Kato Kaelin right now — i.e. the trail witness whose story’s so compelling and connected to the case they’re the No. 1 ‘get’ for every major news outlet.

Instead, she’s a non-person to the national media — even though Baldwin was, and still might be, pro-choice. But the media know the effect of publicizing her testimony and that of others at the trial could be so hurtful to The Cause none of the details can be told, let alone by an eyewitness to the actions.

jon1979 on April 15, 2013 at 8:51 AM

We (meaning the dextrosphere) need to keep pushing this. And pushing it hard. No need to sensationalize it. Just keep reporting the truth.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Funny how people who support abortion can’t stomach the facts of abortion. They just pull the woman’s choice curtain over it all so they don’t have to look and think.

Limerick on April 15, 2013 at 8:46 AM

That is quite the catch phase. May I repost it?

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Here is what we are up against. This is a tweet from an (allegedly) OB/GYN:

.@dloesch There you go again. You make assumptions and you do not read carefully. Abortions save women’s lives. Period. Every. Single. Time.— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) April 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/leahntorres/status/323277364589125634

She’s a physician and thinks every pregnancy is a life-threatening condition.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

The lack of Obama comment is very telling. Which WH steno pool member is going to be willing to put their cocktail circuit ticket on the line to ask President Live-Birth Abortion about this story and how we can save these children from murderers like the affable Dr. Kermit Gosnell? cue the crickets

This is the clearest evidence of liberal media bias because it flies in the face of the logic they use to tell us why the stories they do push are newsworthy and of vital concern to we unwashed masses. The most innocent as victims (both mothers and infants), evidence of discrimination; white mothers got a special room (but all babies were murdered in an equal opportunity manner), jars of baby parts, (kept as gruesome souvenirs?) and of course the coup de grace, a self regulated industry that caused horrific deaths. How does a story get more newsworthy than that?

CitizenEgg on April 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Yes, please continue to pound this sad tale straight in the faces of the leftist savages, let them see what they have created.

On the other hand, NonP could be right, why so much outside effort about a “local” crime. I mean Newtown was a “local” crime, that should only have been covered by the Newtown Patch free newspaper.

Bishop on April 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM

There are more out there than just this story. In Delaware two nurses quit a planned parenthood for similar conditions. Why would mark dayton and other dem governors veto a bill that would allow for abortion clinics to be held to the same standards as medical clinics. The media is covering for their baby killing president and his administration. They are all complicit in this and the murder each and every day of innocent babies. The innocent blood is on all of their hands and you too nonpartisan and all that support this genocide. May those of you who support this hear their screams and cries when you lay your head down to sleep. May it haunt you endlessly and may God have mercy on your soul, you will face Him sooner or later…….

crosshugger on April 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM

The lack of Obama comment is very telling. Which WH steno pool member is going to be willing to put their cocktail circuit ticket on the line to ask President Live-Birth Abortion about this story and how we can save these children from murderers like the affable Dr. Kermit Gosnell?

CitizenEgg on April 15, 2013 at 8:57 AM

None of them. Under pain of death.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM

She’s a physician and thinks every pregnancy is a life-threatening condition.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

And this was yesterday? After it came out in the grand jury report that Gosnell killed at least one woman by over-anesthetizing her? I’m sorry, but over-anesthetizing a surgical patient is an amateur-hour mistake. No doctor that can allow something like that to happen should be allowed to continue in practice.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM

On the other hand, NonP could be right, why so much outside effort about a “local” crime. I mean Newtown was a “local” crime, that should only have been covered by the Newtown Patch free newspaper.

Bishop on April 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Of course, 9/11 was local, so was the Tiller murder. Columbine? Local. Gabby Giffords? Local.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

No need to sensationalize it. Just keep reporting the truth.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:53 AM

I read somewhere that Lifetime is already casting a movie about the Arias trial just as they’ve made movies about the Romeo Killer and Drew Peterson (among others).

The Network loves making dreck out of these “ripped from the headlines” stories. I wonder why they haven’t started in on this story.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

There are more out there than just this story. In Delaware two nurses quit a planned parenthood for similar conditions. Why would mark dayton and other dem governors veto a bill that would allow for abortion clinics to be held to the same standards as medical clinics. The media is covering for their baby killing president and his administration. They are all complicit in this and the murder each and every day of innocent babies. The innocent blood is on all of their hands and you too nonpartisan and all that support this genocide. May those of you who support this hear their screams and cries when you lay your head down to sleep. May it haunt you endlessly and may God have mercy on your soul, you will face Him sooner or later…….

crosshugger on April 15, 2013 at 8:58 AM

It’s not just the Dem governors. Kermit Gosnell’s abattoir/charnel would not have been possible without Tom Ridge (a Republican) looking the other way, and ordering PA’s Department of Health to do so for 18 years.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

I read somewhere that Lifetime is already casting a movie about the Arias trial just as they’ve made movies about the Romeo Killer and Drew Peterson (among others).

The Network loves making dreck out of these “ripped from the headlines” stories. I wonder why they haven’t started in on this story.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:00 AM

I think you know better. It would make many pro-choicers very uncomfortable, and we can’t have that.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I’m honestly preparing myself for Gosnell to be acquitted.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Nah, I could see the jury wimping out on the death penalty, but how in the hell does he get acquitted with this much evidence against him? Even the dumbest jurors in the world are gonna have a hard time being suckered into setting him free.

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM

As horrible as third trimester abortions taking place are. The horror of hearing about the 4th trimester cannot even be fathomed, by most of us. It is so repulsive and must be stopped. Unfortunately we must be exposed to all the details in order to purge ourselves from this consciousless practice. Lord have mercy.

FREEDOM4906 on April 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Abortions save women’s lives. Period. Every. Single. Time.— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) April 14, 2013

She’s a physician and thinks every pregnancy is a life-threatening condition.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Depends on your definition of life-threatening. Hard to live the life of a bar slut with an infant in tow.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:03 AM

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

I love it that you consider the reporting the trial of a murder of infants to be ‘sensationalism’.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Forgot my /// tag.
*murderer.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 15, 2013 at 9:04 AM

None of them. Under pain of death.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM

And don’t you doubt that for a minute.

Cleombrotus on April 15, 2013 at 9:05 AM

16 years ago, I gave birth my first son at 32 weeks. He was the size of many of the babies delivered and murdered by this monster. I cannot imagine delivering him, then having scissors plunged into his spine.

ConservativeMom on April 15, 2013 at 9:06 AM

I find it hard to believe that not one of these children was a son or daughter that obama never had

Aggie95 on April 15, 2013 at 8:25 AM

…when do you think JugEars will even mention this?

KOOLAID2 on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

I’m honestly preparing myself for Gosnell to be acquitted.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Nah, I could see the jury wimping out on the death penalty, but how in the hell does he get acquitted with this much evidence against him? Even the dumbest jurors in the world are gonna have a hard time being suckered into setting him free.

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:02 AM

No, I think it just takes one pro-abortion woman believing that abortion at any stage of pregnancy is fine. Just ONE person believing that because the woman’s intent was to kill the baby, when/where that process happened is secondary.

I really believe a conviction is 50/50.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Will the jackass politicians and their lackeys, that looked the other way, see any prison time for not doing their jobs. They let gosnell get away with this….they are complicit….
That is the other piece of this story is the lack of enforcement of whatever rules they did have on the books…
Pro choice equals pro death….One dead, one wounded

crosshugger on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

ed, how many posts are we gonna get of gosnell? you’re trying to squeeze every sensationalistic ounce of juice out of this story aren’tcha?

nonpartisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Maybe because this story contains more juice than the entire state of Florida. We’re talking about a man who allegedly killed over 100 babies. That would make him the most prolific serial killer in the history of this nation. You’re telling me that doesn’t warrant endless coverage?

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Wow. Honored you want to. Have at it.

Limerick on April 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Here is what we are up against. This is a tweet from an (allegedly) OB/GYN:

.@dloesch There you go again. You make assumptions and you do not read carefully. Abortions save women’s lives. Period. Every. Single. Time.— Leah Torres, MD (@LeahNTorres) April 14, 2013

https://twitter.com/leahntorres/status/323277364589125634

She’s a physician and thinks every pregnancy is a life-threatening condition.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Jaw-dropping.

Aitch748 on April 15, 2013 at 9:09 AM

No, I think it just takes one pro-abortion woman believing that abortion at any stage of pregnancy is fine. Just ONE person believing that because the woman’s intent was to kill the baby, when/where that process happened is secondary.

I really believe a conviction is 50/50.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

I dunno about 50/50, but the thought has crossed my mind that it would be a distinct and significant possibility. Then again, it’s always bothered me that fetal homicide laws exist in states that have legally operating abortion clinics. In those places, the only difference between fetal homicide and legal abortion is the intent of the mother. I find that rather disturbing to the point of being bone-chilling.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:10 AM

No, I think it just takes one pro-abortion woman believing that abortion at any stage of pregnancy is fine. Just ONE person believing that because the woman’s intent was to kill the baby, when/where that process happened is secondary.

I really believe a conviction is 50/50.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Maybe, but that person better be prepared to be vilified by an outraged public for the rest of their life. Remember the sh-tstorm that rained down on the Casey Anthony jurors? And that was over the murder of one girl. Imagine being known as the juror or jurors who acquitted a man who murdered over 100 newborns and a woman.

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM

My screen name is an absolute joke. Can I have my money now, Mister Axelrod?

partisan on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Del Dolemonte on April 15, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Gosnell was only providing a service to an unserved part of society. His workers had no other options for employment. His clients had no other place to go.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 8:40 AM

That lefty line about Gosnell exploiting women who were desperate and “had no place else to go” strikes me as being pretty racist.

The subtext is that poor black women are too ignorant to know that they can give up their babies for adoption if they are unable or unwilling to raise the babies themselves.

Why do lefties think black women are stupid?

AZCoyote on April 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Maybe because this story contains more juice than the entire state of Florida. We’re talking about a man who allegedly killed over 100 babies. That would make him the most prolific serial killer in the history of this nation. You’re telling me that doesn’t warrant endless coverage?

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Now now. That is rather sensational. He is charged with killing 7 babies that were born alive. The grand jury report specifically states that the only obstacle to more charges was destruction of evidence, but yeah. We will never know how many born-alive babies Gosnell really killed; the grand jury report says as much.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Reading the comments here it never occurred to me that he might actually get convicted of murder and receive the death penalty.

How do you think liberals would react if the execution method was plunging scissors into the base of his cerebral cortex and cutting his spine in half?

I know, I know. Lethal injection is even too painful for them for a hardened criminal. We’ll the scissors for the third term babies.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

It’s telling that Dr. Ben Carson is controverial, but Dr. Kermit Gosnell isn’t.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

We’ll “save” the scissors …

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

And this was yesterday? After it came out in the grand jury report that Gosnell killed at least one woman by over-anesthetizing her? I’m sorry, but over-anesthetizing a surgical patient is an amateur-hour mistake. No doctor that can allow something like that to happen should be allowed to continue in practice.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Read it again. She’s saying nothing about Gosnell, she’s saying that every time she does an abortion, she is saving the life of the mother. I have no idea what she actually means.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

It’s telling that Dr. Ben Carson is controverial, but Dr. Kermit Gosnell isn’t.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Somewhat O/T, I guess…
But someone has to say it. There is a laundry list of things that are controversial that shouldn’t be, and an equally long list of things that are fashionable that should be (at least IMNSHO) controversial.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.

–Revelation 7:13-17, KJV

Ed Snyder on April 15, 2013 at 9:15 AM

It’s telling that Dr. Ben Carson is controverial, but Dr. Kermit Gosnell isn’t.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Not to the news. He’s like an unsavory relative the family won’t even talk about.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM

She is saving the mother’s life..hmmmm. I guess we can use it as a law enforcement philosophy too. Shoot the victim to save the criminal.

Limerick on April 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM

…when do you think JugEars will even mention this?

KOOLAID2 on April 15, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Louis Gates being treated like a normal person- Cambridge PD acted stupidly.

Travon Martin- Mentioned as a great way to appeal to both blacks by affirming racial inequality.

Sandra Fluke being (truthfully) called a slut for demanding somebody else pay for her contraception- A personal call from the rat-eared devil and the comment that women shouldn’t be punished with pregnancy.

But there will be no mention of Gosnell. The rat-eared devil has invested far too much political capital and time in convincing stupid women that abortion on demand is an inalienable right. He’s not going to mess that investment up by any sort of expression of humanity or decency.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Not to the news. He’s like an unsavory relative the family won’t even talk about.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM

He’s the Jerimiah Wright of abortionists.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Read it again. She’s saying nothing about Gosnell, she’s saying that every time she does an abortion, she is saving the life of the mother. I have no idea what she actually means.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Well, whatever. I don’t believe it. Regardless of what or who she’s referring to, she’s blowing smoke right up Dana’s tush.

Just for an example, the most common life-threatening ailment of pregnancy is eclampsia. Pregnant women are routinely monitored for pre-eclampsia symptoms. Babies born to eclamptic or pre-eclamptic mothers can always survive. Always.

The odds of actually having to trade a mother’s life for her unborn child are so long as to be astronomical. If that’s the only condition you really did abortions under, you couldn’t make a living.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Limerick, it’s just well said.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Read it again. She’s saying nothing about Gosnell, she’s saying that every time she does an abortion, she is saving the life of the mother. I have no idea what she actually means.

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:14 AM

I read it as essentially “Every time a woman has an abortion — anywhere, for any reason, and no matter who performs the abortion, even if it should be performed by somebody like Gosnell — it saves the woman’s life. So abortionists are heroes, or something.”

Aitch748 on April 15, 2013 at 9:20 AM

How do you think liberals would react if the execution method was plunging scissors into the base of his cerebral cortex and cutting his spine in half?

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Too quick and not painful enough. I would suggest the method endorsed by the rat-eared devil. Wheel the bastard into a janitor’s closet and deny any aid until he is dead.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Too quick and not painful enough. I would suggest the method endorsed by the rat-eared devil. Wheel the bastard into a janitor’s closet and deny any aid until he is dead.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Two words for ya, Nomad:

Garden Shears.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:25 AM

They don’t cover it because they know that our dear leader is for it. He pushed a bill allowing this in IL while a state senator. They won’t let their ‘the Won’ take a hit for this or for anything else. What gets me is that Gosnell is 72 and could have retired a long time ago. He’s got enough money from his decades long practice. He must really love his job.

Kissmygrits on April 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:17 AM
He’s the Jerimiah Wright of abortionists.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Can’t talk about anything that weakens their worldview.

And they’ll call this isolated.

Yet to the news media, one shift of unprofessional guards in Abu Ghraib indicts the entire US Armed Forces and makes them wonder in Walter Cronkite fashion whether the war can now even be won.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM

What gets me is that Gosnell is 72 and could have retired a long time ago. He’s got enough money from his decades long practice. He must really love his job.

Kissmygrits on April 15, 2013 at 9:26 AM

You know what else Gosnell really seemed to love? His cats. His scores of cats he had roaming his abortion clinic…

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Now now. That is rather sensational. He is charged with killing 7 babies that were born alive. The grand jury report specifically states that the only obstacle to more charges was destruction of evidence, but yeah. We will never know how many born-alive babies Gosnell really killed; the grand jury report says as much.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:12 AM

That’s what he’s charged with, yes. But he’s alleged to have killed way more than that. It’s irrelevant that the jury is only being asked to pass down judgment on what he did to 7 babies and one woman when the topic of discussion is why the media should be covering this story. There are so many different elements of this trial and its backstory that warrant attention. Seriously, people in the media could be making a career for themselves out of this trial(just as they could have with Benghazi and Fast & Furious, BTW).

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

The odds of actually having to trade a mother’s life for her unborn child are so long as to be astronomical. If that’s the only condition you really did abortions under, you couldn’t make a living.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Agreed. But this woman is so brain-washed, or deluded, that she really thinks abortion is a necessary, noble procedure.

She’s mentally unstable. She should not be seeing patients (and for God’s sake, keep her away from small children).

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

As much as we all want to hear from public officials about this horror, remember that this is an ‘ongoing prosecution’, so THAT will be the only answers we’d get.
Sigh.

pambi on April 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

That’s what he’s charged with, yes. But he’s alleged to have killed way more than that. It’s irrelevant that the jury is only being asked to pass down judgment on what he did to 7 babies and one woman when the topic of discussion is why the media should be covering this story. There are so many different elements of this trial and its backstory that warrant attention. Seriously, people in the media could be making a career for themselves out of this trial(just as they could have with Benghazi and Fast & Furious, BTW).

Doughboy on April 15, 2013 at 9:30 AM

The “allegations,” such as they are, will be tried in the Dextrosphere. The evidence contained in the grand jury report is damning in any event, and it’s pretty clear he would have been charged with more than 7 baby murders if he and his staff hadn’t destroyed so much evidence between the original DEA raid and his penultimate arrest.

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Can’t talk about anything that weakens their worldview.

And they’ll call this isolated.

Yet to the news media, one shift of unprofessional guards in Abu Ghraib indicts the entire US Armed Forces and makes them wonder in Walter Cronkite fashion whether the war can now even be won.

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Not to mention Benghazi. The administration still holds that an ambassador was sodomized and killed because of a YouTube video and not an organized attack by the so-called freedom loving Lybians participating in the Arab Spring.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Agreed. But this woman is so brain-washed, or deluded, that she really thinks abortion is a necessary, noble procedure.

She’s mentally unstable. She should not be seeing patients (and for God’s sake, keep her away from small children).

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Haven’t many of us been saying for years here that liberalism is a mental disease ipso facto?

gryphon202 on April 15, 2013 at 9:34 AM

As much as we all want to hear from public officials about this horror, remember that this is an ‘ongoing prosecution’, so THAT will be the only answers we’d get.
Sigh.

pambi on April 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Yeah, which is why no one commented on St. Trayvon’s shooting or the Duke “rape” case until after the trial.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

She’s mentally unstable. She should not be seeing patients (and for God’s sake, keep her away from small children).

Tomblvd on April 15, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Here’s hoping she lives in New York and the state decides to drop by and find out if she owns any firearms. If she’s an abortionist she probably does.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Makes me mad. (In the “we’ll take your guns if we find out you’re mad”, mad)

hawkdriver on April 15, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Yeah, which is why no one commented on St. Trayvon’s shooting or the Duke “rape” case until after the trial.

Washington Nearsider on April 15, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Yeah, that Mike Nifong wouldn’t give the media the time of day while the case was being investigated.

Happy Nomad on April 15, 2013 at 9:38 AM

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