Boston bombing, late-night thread: FBI takes over investigation as Boston cares for the wounded; Update: JFK library fire likely unrelated; Update: Injury toll over 140; Update: Police activity at Revere apartment, connection unconfirmed

posted at 10:41 pm on April 15, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

I saw many in my Twitter feed objecting to the terrorism/not terrorism debate today. While I can understand objecting to political posturing and sniping based on semantics, the terrorism designation has real legal meaning and news value. This investigation has been handed over to the FBI:

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has taken control of the investigation into the blasts, officials announced Monday night at a joint press conference between local, state, and federal authorities.

Though President Obama did not use the word “terrorism” in his address, which came just hours after the attack, White House officials have called it an “act of terror,” and the FBI’s presence is an indication it’s leaning that way:

Authorities said Monday evening that although the city would be operational Tuesday, ”there will be a heightened law enforcement presence,” according to Gov. Deval Patrick.

“It will not be business as usual” tomorrow in Boston, Patrick said.

The Boston Police Department has said that no arrests have yet been made and there are no suspects in custody. Davis emphasized that despite some media reports, there is no suspect at Brigham and Women’s Hospital.

FBI officials said Monday night that the investigation is a “criminal investigation that is a potential terrorism investigation.”

White House officials have said the bombing is being approached as “an act of terror.”

Update: The injury reports are grim, and the loss of three lives devastating, but after hearing reports of multiple other explosive devices found before detonation, and imagining the sheer number of people in their path, I shudder to think how much worse it could have been. We can also give some thanks that Boston has such world-class medical facilities close by. One of the deceased is an 8-year-old boy, and Boston Children’s Hospital offered a heartbreaking list of its young patients:

The dead included an 8-year-old boy, according to two law enforcement sources briefed on the investigation. Boston Children’s Hospital reported that those treated there included a 9-year-old girl, a 7-year-old boy, a 12-year-old, and a 2-year-old.

The Boston Globe has the total number of injured rising to 140 tonight:

Update: You may have heard quite a lot about a fire or explosion at JFK Library today, that was possibly related to the explosions. Initial reports were hazy on whether it was a fire or an explosion, and whether it was related. At an afternoon press conference, a Boston Police Department official seemed to confirm it was related, calling it a “third incident,” but here is the final version of the story. It looks like it may have been an electrical issue at a very bad time, but it’s still under investigation:

The JFK Presidential Library and Museum was evacuated this afternoon after a fire and a possible explosion that are being investigated for links to the blasts near the Boston Marathon finish line.

Tom Putnam, director of the library said the problem there appeared to be a mechanical fire that had nothing to do with the Back Bay bombings. As a precaution, police bomb squads performed a sweep of the Dorchester complex, he said.

Police Chief Edward F. Davis had said a possible incendiary device was found at the library, but he appeared to backtrack this evening, saying only that authorities were investigating at the scene.

The fire started just after 3 p.m. in the vicinity of HVAC equipment in a section of the building opened in 2011 that houses offices, a classroom, and some archival material, said library spokeswoman Rachel Flor. The fire was quickly extinguished.

“Everyone is safe here,” Flor said. “There was a fire, and it’s still unclear how it began.”

Flor added: “We did hear something that sounded like an explosion.”

Update: Be careful of graphic images, but this is a Boston Globe photographer’s first-hand look on the scene.

Update: Hmm, from local sources, but not confirmed connected to the bombings. I’ll update as they clarify on developments in Revere.

More from Revere, still floating around on Twitter without confirmation, so take it with a grain of salt until we know it’s connected:

Update: An eerie photo from earlier today, of marathoners stopped within the last mile of the race, via The Globe and Deadspin:

Marathon

And, here’s a new angle on the first explosion, from the perspective of a runner about to finish his race:

Update: The Boston Police and FBI announced the next press conference will be tomorrow morning at 9:30 a.m.

Update: ABC’s Jon Karl finally confirms what the NY Post reported much earlier today about a “person of interest” being guarded in the hospital, who was a Saudi national (the Post may also have referred to him as a “suspect,” which doesn’t seem to be the case). There was a lot of second guessing of the Post going on, and Fox bashing, when Fox shortly thereafter confirmed there was a “person of interest,” but did not designate a nationality. More on that “person of interest,” who is indeed Saudi, apparently.

Update: More from Revere:

A law enforcement source tells Fox 25 that a large police presence at a home in Revere is related to the Boston Marathon bombings.

The source said that a suspicious driver was pulled over by Revere police after driving past the State Police barracks a number of times.

The driver reportedly had a “nervous demeanor.”

The driver then led police, as well as the FBI, to a home in the area of Ocean Avenue and Beach Street.

It was not immediately known what police were searching for at the home. Three people died and more than 100 were injured after bombs went off within 100 yards of each other near the finish line of the Boston Marathon Monday afternoon.

I imagine we’ll find out much more about this tomorrow at 9:30.

Update: The police have reportedly left the scene without talking to reporters.

Update: We’ll end the night on as uplifting a note as possible.

The public Google doc for offering up places to stay in Boston to stranded marathoners and spectators is a testament to the reflexive kindness of our people.

In New York, a lovely tribute to Boston on the side of the Brooklyn Academy of Music:

In Oakland, cheering for Boston:

And, an inspired catch by a man named, fittingly, Ben Revere:

Here’s his glove:


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Liam on April 16, 2013 at 6:44 AM

yup

and in all of this, the ‘gang of eight’ will be rolling out their amnesty bill today…yeah, that’s going to get alot of coverage today…

we’ll find out about it after it passes…

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 6:46 AM

I’m noticing the MSM crowd is still pushing the domestic terrorists meme, because the bombs were “low tech”. Presumably foreign terrorists are assumed to be “high-tech” bomb makers. “High-tech” like the failed Times Square bomb, I suppose.

Ah, but everyone knows domestic terrorists are uneducated knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing “right-wingers” who are incapable of making anything other than “low-tech” bombs. Right?

And foreign terrorists are really sharp, smart, and well educated.They make “high-tech” bombs. Right?

The bias of the MSM is so completely internalized they jump to conclusions and do not question them. Only such a bias could reach the conclusion that “low-tech” bombs are evidence it is more likely domestic terrorism rather than foreign, while ignoring other evidence that are hallmarks of foreign terrorist attacks (multiple devices detonating at the same time, ball bearings, high time and location with lots of MSM presence). Sadly, even some otherwise relatively unbiased media types accept this kind of “analysis” at face value and repeat it.

farsighted on April 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM

farsighted on April 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM

well said

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 6:55 AM

I take my threat-level cues from CNN. The tighter Anderson Cooper’s t-shirts are “in the field” (see: Kuwait, Katrina), the closer we are to an “Oh crap!!!!!” moment.

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 16, 2013 at 6:58 AM

I have no faith in the FBI. Look how long it took them to find the Unibomber, the guy in NC that bombed the abortion clinics, and several others that they only found after family members ratted them out.

Then there was the kidnapper in Mineral Wells, TX that escaped FBI custody, because the fools didn’t hancuff him, only to be shot and killed by sheriffs deputies. Today’s FBI is a politically correct joke.

TX-eye on April 15, 2013 at 11:08 PM

And then there was anthrax attack after 9/11.

farsighted on April 16, 2013 at 6:59 AM

yup

and in all of this, the ‘gang of eight’ will be rolling out their amnesty bill today…yeah, that’s going to get alot of coverage today…

we’ll find out about it after it passes…

I wish we didn’t have to think this way… wish we could just concentrate on assisting and praying for those in need… hoping we find out and catch who did it. But this is the world we live in. The left starts this. Don’t let a good crisis go to waste or something like that.
Last night on Hannity. he was talking to some guy and this guy was going on about how you can make bombs out of stuff underneath your kitchen sink. My first thought… there we go. Instead of dealing with Islam you know who and what they will target. Our cleaning supplies and our liberty. More checkpoints. More TSA. More surveillance. You’ll have to show an ID and register to buy Clorox or baking soda.

Yet.. just two weeks ago Obama gave preferred flight status to the Saudi’s.

JellyToast on April 16, 2013 at 6:59 AM

JellyToast on April 16, 2013 at 6:59 AM

*sigh*

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 7:05 AM

Not even last call beer goggles could cure that.

Solaratov on April 16, 2013 at 2:37 AM

You made my morning..lmao

let’s refresh morning joe’s memory

ft hood
benghazi
boston

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Lets not forget about
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab-underwear bomber on Christmas. He had a US tourist visa…and a past filled with radical ties to Islam..but he has a US tourist visa. Hmmm Hmmm Hmmm.

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:12 AM

I’m sure we will find that this is all justified by the “religion of peace” and it’s main follower the kenyan marxist.

After all, retribution is called for because of some lost battle 600 years ago where the infidels desecrated some islam temple or something.

acyl72 on April 16, 2013 at 7:15 AM

and in all of this, the ‘gang of eight’ will be rolling out their amnesty bill today…yeah, that’s going to get alot of coverage today…

we’ll find out about it after it passes…
cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 6:46 AM

I guess it helps when you have the 1st potus with illegal alien
family members sitting in plain site sucking off our teet.

This incident (What Nappy called Boston horror terrorism) is cramping their plans. McCain said as much yesterday.
We are collapsing and all they care about is their precious illegal stroking and pandering.
They can go to hell..literally.

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:22 AM

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:12 AM

good point b9

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:22 AM

amen

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Evangelicals and Catholics labeled and listed
as religious extremists on the same list
as AQ,Hamas,KKK ect…provided to our military.
The religion of peace just has a few radical groups, ya know.

I think my head may split open one day.

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:27 AM

Morning CMS.

bazil9 on April 16, 2013 at 7:29 AM

JellyToast on April 16, 2013 at 6:59 AM

A friend of mine e-mailed me the other day that Saudis, “enrolled in the program can enter the country with almost no effort. When they arrive at an international airport, so long as they provide a passport and fingerprints, they can bypass customs entirely.” but could not provide a link. Any truth to this, that you know of?

Cleombrotus on April 16, 2013 at 7:30 AM

I take my threat-level cues from CNN. The tighter Anderson Cooper’s t-shirts are “in the field” (see: Kuwait, Katrina), the closer we are to an “Oh crap!!!!!” moment.

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 16, 2013 at 6:58 AM

Lol :) how is he doing so far? :) I am afraid to watch, can only hope that he doesn’t go all shirtless :)

jimver on April 16, 2013 at 7:33 AM

A friend of mine e-mailed me the other day that Saudis, “enrolled in the program can enter the country with almost no effort. When they arrive at an international airport, so long as they provide a passport and fingerprints, they can bypass customs entirely.” but could not provide a link. Any truth to this, that you know of?

Cleombrotus on April 16, 2013 at 7:30 AM

NOBODY could bypass customs at the first point of entry in the US, so that’s bullcra*.

jimver on April 16, 2013 at 7:45 AM

I think Organizing for America had something to do with this.

RandallinHerndon on April 16, 2013 at 7:48 AM

Morning B9

cmsinaz on April 16, 2013 at 7:52 AM

Move along folks, nothing to ban here!

claudius on April 16, 2013 at 8:47 AM

I wonder if this guy screwed up his chance for amnesty.

Notice how they keep giving visas to Muslims and then they use that as an excuse to turn us into a police state?

Spartacus on April 16, 2013 at 8:49 AM

The Federal Bureau of Investigation has taken control of the investigation into the blasts, officials announced Monday night at a joint press conference between local, state, and federal authorities.

Let the coverup begin. Anytime there is a Saudi national involved; the US government steps in to protect those scum.

Stop Islamic terrorism. Nuke Riyadh!!!

patch on April 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Stop Islamic terrorism. Nuke Riyadh!!!
patch on April 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Not good to say stuff like “nuke such and such city”

It’s promoting violence against innocent people

bluegill on April 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM

I take my threat-level cues from CNN. The tighter Anderson Cooper’s t-shirts are “in the field” (see: Kuwait, Katrina), the closer we are to an “Oh crap!!!!!” moment.

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 16, 2013 at 6:58 AM

Lol :) how is he doing so far? :) I am afraid to watch, can only hope that he doesn’t go all shirtless :)

jimver on April 16, 2013 at 7:33 AM

Hahahaaaa!! I’ve been thinking about tunneling us a root cellar just in case The Anderson Scale goes “Code Nekkid”.

:)

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on April 16, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Stop Islamic terrorism. Nuke Riyadh!!!
patch on April 16, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Not good to say stuff like “nuke such and such city”

It’s promoting violence against innocent people

bluegill on April 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM

They are not innocent. They are at war with us. Time to finish this war.

patch on April 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM

They are not innocent. They are at war with us. Time to finish this war.
patch on April 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Not everyone in Riyadh is a jihadist. You sound like a liberal trying to discredit this blog by leaving violent comments while pretending to be a conservative. Sorry, but people here don’t say that kind of stuff.

bluegill on April 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Not everyone in Riyadh is a jihadist. You sound like a liberal trying to discredit this blog by leaving violent comments while pretending to be a conservative. Sorry, but people here don’t say that kind of stuff.

bluegill on April 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Yeah…..that would be you, actually

williamg on April 16, 2013 at 9:49 AM

I’m noticing the MSM crowd is still pushing the domestic terrorists meme, because the bombs were “low tech”. Presumably foreign terrorists are assumed to be “high-tech” bomb makers. “High-tech” like the failed Times Square bomb, I suppose.

Ah, but everyone knows domestic terrorists are uneducated knuckle-dragging mouth-breathing “right-wingers” who are incapable of making anything other than “low-tech” bombs. Right?

And foreign terrorists are really sharp, smart, and well educated.They make “high-tech” bombs. Right?

The bias of the MSM is so completely internalized they jump to conclusions and do not question them. Only such a bias could reach the conclusion that “low-tech” bombs are evidence it is more likely domestic terrorism rather than foreign, while ignoring other evidence that are hallmarks of foreign terrorist attacks (multiple devices detonating at the same time, ball bearings, high time and location with lots of MSM presence). Sadly, even some otherwise relatively unbiased media types accept this kind of “analysis” at face value and repeat it.

farsighted on April 16, 2013 at 6:52 AM

The timing of the bombs suggests a foreign terrorist, or at least someone unfamiliar with marathons. If the bomber wanted to kill and injure the maximum number of people, he would have set it to explode about 3 to 4 hours after the start of the race, when most of the runners are arriving at the finish line, and the crowds welcoming them would be larger. Runners finishing a marathon are thirsty, hungry, and exhausted, and their family members would probably take them out to eat within a half hour after finishing. The bombs actually exploded nearly 5 hours after the start of the race, when more than 27,000 of the 32,000 runners had already finished, and most of the crowd had already left the finish line.

The MSM needs to stop speculating over the political motivations of the Boston bomber, and let the FBI and the state and local police investigate the scene and eyewitnesses in peace, and see where the investigation leads. Right now, nobody really knows who did this, except the perpetrator and his accomplices. So the MSM should limit itself to reporting what police tell them, and any evidence they might discover at the scene.

Steve Z on April 16, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Poor ol’ sesquid is going to be devastated.

Lil barry just called the bombing “an act of terrorism.”

Maybe the squid should call barry and give him the “common definition” of terrorism.
Sort of set the poor lil fella straight, as it were.

Oh. And sesquid….FOAD.

Solaratov on April 16, 2013 at 12:18 PM

They are not innocent. They are at war with us. Time to finish this war.
patch on April 16, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Not everyone in Riyadh is a jihadist. You sound like a liberal trying to discredit this blog by leaving violent comments while pretending to be a conservative. Sorry, but people here don’t say that kind of stuff.

bluegill on April 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM

That is rich coming from you, Jane Fonda. Just the mere mention of Sarah Palin sends you wobbling off your axis faster than Chris Matthews on a bender.
Go take your Lithium and shut up.

RovesChins on April 16, 2013 at 12:53 PM

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