Dear Gun Mfrs – Come to Maine

posted at 3:31 pm on April 14, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

As more states follow the lead of New York, Connecticut and Colorado, passing rafts of laws which are decidedly unfriendly to Second Amendment supporters, gun and weapons equipment manufacturers have been feeling the squeeze. Some are already looking to pack up their plants and their jobs and head to friendlier climes, and governors like Rick Perry have been quick to welcome them with open arms – pun intended. But the rest of the more freedom oriented states apparently won’t be willing to sit on the sideline and let Perry grab up all the benefits.

Governor Paul LePage of Maine is getting in on the act, and he’s not being subtle about it. He took to the pages of the Wall Street Journal with an open appeal to the owners of several such companies and made his case.

When Americans think of Maine, they often think of rocky coasts, lobster and moose. But Maine also has a long and proud tradition of military service, a legacy of world-class manufacturing, and a high percentage of personal firearm ownership.

That’s why I invite manufacturers of firearms and related accessories—some of which are under siege in their home states by politicians pushing anti-gun legislation—to come to Maine. As a state that is fiercely protective of our right to bear arms, we will welcome you and your business.

If you read the full letter you’ll see that LePage has quite a few tales to tell in the interest of beefing up Maine’s Second Amendment bona fides. He tells a story which I missed entirely about a newspaper there trying to get a list of gun owners from the government to publish. He worked with the legislature to pass a new law to squash that effort within 48 hours. He also discusses Maine’s proud tradition of both manufacturing and individualism. But to really make the sale, he closes with this powerful and very direct offer.

Beretta, Colt, Magpul and any others: In Maine you will find air, rail and seaports that can carry your exceptional products across the country and across the globe. You will find hardworking Mainers, and you will find a governor who is ready to provide incentives and guarantees that will make it attractive for you to set up shop in our state.

I will never sign anti-gun legislation that erodes the rights of Maine citizens, drives your business away or infringes on the U.S. Constitution or the State of Maine Constitution.

Come to where you are welcome and where you will be appreciated. Come to Maine. I’ll even throw in some lobster.

I don’t know if it will work, but if I were in charge of Beretta, I’d read that letter, pick up the phone and at least look into the situation. It’s a pretty sweet offer, even without the lobster.


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Nah, don’t be fooled. Go to Texas.

Schadenfreude on April 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Home of Susan Collins.
Run!

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Home of two most idiotic female senators…yes, yes, one’s retired, the scumhag.

Schadenfreude on April 14, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Wasn’t LePage’s election in Maine really just a fluke? Don’t think it’s a good idea for a gun manufacturer to bet on the future political leadership being as warm to gun rights as the current one is.

Mark1971 on April 14, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Go to Maine, have Lobster.

Come to Texas, have brisket.

No real decision to make here.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Cute. But Wyoming is a safer bet. Safer yet if you fire-bomb Jackson.

M240H on April 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM

There is an algorithmic way of determining where to go. Let the weight of the Governor be 100 and let the weight of every legislator be 10 and let the weight of every judge of the supreme court of the state be 10 and let the weight of every other judge be 5.

Then assign each such person to one of two columns (2nd Amendment opponent/2nd amendment proponent) and enter the weight associated with each in the appropriate column. Sum the columns and compute the value (2nd amendment proponent weight sum)/(2nd amendment opponent sum).

Whichever state has the highest value is the winner.

unclesmrgol on April 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM

He tells a story which I missed entirely about a newspaper there trying to get a list of gun owners from the government to publish.

Its huge a problem that the government in Maine has a list of gun owners in the first place

Texas maintains no such list. I guess we define liberty a little differently in Texas. It means no government intrusion. no government lists to begin with.

paulsur on April 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Go to Maine, have Lobster.

Come to Texas, have brisket.

No real decision to make here.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Texas women vs Maine women.
No comparison,

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I really can’t see gun manufacturers moving to any New England state. Out of the pan into the fire. Not even NH is safe.

INC on April 14, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Home of Susan Collins.
Run!

“It’s a trap!!”

Its a blue state. Not to be trusted.

hawkeye54 on April 14, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Texas women vs Maine women.
No comparison,

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Yeah maybe, but they won’t get you a beer or make you a sammich. Texas women will. But only if you ask.

/ducks

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I will never sign anti-gun legislation that erodes the rights of Maine citizens, drives your business away or infringes on the U.S. Constitution or the State of Maine Constitution.

Therein lies the problem. He might not but what about the next Governor? or the next state legislature?

Everything he is saying, everything, is fleeting and already has a built in expiration date. In the current craziness no where in Yankee land is safe and can’t be relied upon come the next election.

Gov. LePage can promise sanctuary for maybe a few years.

Come to Texas, I can guarantee you’ll have the better part of a century before the state goes blue enough to outlaw all private ownership of guns.

Sadly, that’s the best that anyone can promise. We are witnessing a country in decline, morally and legally, enjoy the freedoms while they last, I’m afraid they won’t last as long as they did for our ancestors.

E9RET on April 14, 2013 at 3:46 PM

It’s a Trap!

Go do Texas.

portlandon on April 14, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Therein lies the problem. He might not but what about the next Governor? or the next state legislature?

Any legislation and political point of view is always subject to evolving and the political whims of the ideology in control.

hawkeye54 on April 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM

There is an algorithmic way of determining where to go. Let the weight of the Governor be 100 …

unclesmrgol on April 14, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Unfair to New Jersey.

J.S.K. on April 14, 2013 at 3:49 PM

But only if you ask.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

And clean up afterwards.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Texas women vs Maine women.
No comparison,

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Yeah maybe, but they won’t get you a beer or make you a sammich. Texas women will. But only if you ask.

/ducks

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Yeah, that was the point, which you missed. You get to make me a sammich and grab me a beer and please look good while doing it like a Texas gal.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Texas and their desperate begging for any and all industries to please please move there is unbecoming. Then again, Texans aren’t known for self awareness.

Maine is a worse choice than Texas.

Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Virginia, Washington are all better states for a gun manufacturer to set up long term operations in.

Texas already has a problem supplying labor to high-skill occupations. That’s why even now you can move to Texas (if you have a valuable skill) and find work pretty easily. Because of the shortcomings of the local talent. Of course, if you don’t have skills, you’ll be one of the millions of Texan jobs created in Wal Marts or fast foods. And those people aren’t qualified to work in a Colt or Beretta or similar quality plant.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Yeah, move to a blue, northeastern liberal state.

If you gotta tout your ‘bona fides’ to this extent – ummm, stay far away.

Never understood how all these companies have their HQs in the Northeast or eastern states…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I think Davy Crockett said it best.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

It’s a Trap!

Go do Texas.

portlandon on April 14, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Debbie does Dallas?

/runs.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

And your constant bigoted lying is SOP for your kind.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Texas and their desperate begging for any and all industries to please please move there is unbecoming. Then again, Texans aren’t known for self awareness.

Maine is a worse choice than Texas.

Ohio, Indiana, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Virginia, Washington are all better states for a gun manufacturer to set up long term operations in.

Texas already has a problem supplying labor to high-skill occupations. That’s why even now you can move to Texas (if you have a valuable skill) and find work pretty easily. Because of the shortcomings of the local talent. Of course, if you don’t have skills, you’ll be one of the millions of Texan jobs created in Wal Marts or fast foods. And those people aren’t qualified to work in a Colt or Beretta or similar quality plant.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

You sound jealous. Been to Texas lately? The Texas economy is impervious to obama’s economy. But, please, do continue to gate while they flourish. They don’t want sh!tbugs like you anyway. They like their men to be men.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Maine gave us Obamacare when Snowe said the issue should have an up or down vote. With 60 Democratic Senators. Traitor.

pat on April 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Yeah, move to a blue, northeastern liberal state.

If you gotta tout your ‘bona fides’ to this extent – ummm, stay far away.

Never understood how all these companies have their HQs in the Northeast or eastern states…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 3:55 PM

You ever hear of yankee ingenuity? The north Atlantic coast was an industrial hotbed of development and technology. The South was an agrarian economy dependent on slave labor. Which one is going to be making all the guns?

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Daik obviously has no experience working an assembly line…

Granted, some – some – of the gun makers have specialty outfits or put together specialty lines where guns are custom or hand fitted, but most of the production lines in firearms are manufactured along the same lines as automobiles.

It don’t take a rocket surgeon to turn a screw.

Same with ammo manufacturers.

Watch ‘How it’s Made’ when they have shows about making ammo. Again, don’t take a rocket surgeon to slather primer onto large trays or dump brass into a polishing bin.

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Daik,

Yeah, that was then, this is now.

I always preferred the term ‘American’ Ingenuity…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

/runs.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Chicken.

Come on Bambi.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Y’all giving the lying POS anything more than the derision he deserves just keeps him going.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Thank you there Mr Whitney, by that argument they should move to the Mid-West, because 75 years ago about 35% GDP was in 7 mid-western states, now known, colloquially as “The Rust Belt.”

But in the REAL world Boeing, Mercedes, and BMW all manufacture, happily in the South.

But carry-on being ill-informed.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Given the whack-jobs Maine sends to Congress, the residents’ welfare mentality and the weather, Maine is one of the last states I would consider.

bw222 on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

You sound jealous. Been to Texas lately? The Texas economy is impervious to obama’s economy. But, please, do continue to gate while they flourish. They don’t want sh!tbugs like you anyway. They like their men to be men.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Then why is Stuttering Rick Perry making a big deal about trying to attract talent from California and the Northeast. You know, talent that Texas is desperate to have. Why do Texas companies have so many vacancies in high skill positions which they can’t fill DESPITE the poor job market?

Texas is literally begging for smarter, more skilled people from other states to move there and help them. Pathetic.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Yeah, move to a blue, northeastern liberal state.

If you gotta tout your ‘bona fides’ to this extent – ummm, stay far away.

Never understood how all these companies have their HQs in the Northeast or eastern states…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 3:55 PM

You ever hear of yankee ingenuity? The north Atlantic coast was an industrial hotbed of development and technology. The South was an agrarian economy dependent on slave labor. Which one is going to be making all the guns?

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

State Texas Fortune 500 Companies:

Rank ▾ Company Fortune 500 rank City Revenues
($ millions)
1 Exxon Mobil 1 Irving 452,926.0
2 ConocoPhillips 4 Houston 237,272.0
3 AT&T 11 Dallas 126,723.0
4 Valero Energy 12 San Antonio 125,095.0
5 Dell 44 Round Rock 62,071.0
6 Enterprise Products Partners 62 Houston 44,313.0
7 Sysco 69 Houston 39,323.5
8 Plains All American Pipeline 87 Houston 34,275.0
9 Tesoro 101 San Antonio 29,927.0
10 Halliburton 118 Houston 24,829.0
11 AMR 123 Fort Worth 23,979.0
12 Fluor 124 Irving 23,381.4
13 Kimberly-Clark 137 Irving 20,846.0
14 Baker Hughes 141 Houston 19,831.0
15 United Services Automobile Assn. 144 San Antonio 19,036.1
16 J.C. Penney 153 Plano 17,260.0
17 Apache 154 Houston 16,888.0
18 Southwest Airlines 167 Dallas 15,658.0
19 HollyFrontier 170 Dallas 15,439.5
20 Marathon Oil 173 Houston 15,282.0
21 National Oilwell Varco 184 Houston 14,658.0
22 Anadarko Petroleum 192 The Woodlands 13,967.0
23 Texas Instruments 200 Dallas 13,735.0
24 Waste Management 203 Houston 13,378.0
25 Dean Foods 207 Dallas 13,055.5
26 EOG Resources 263 Houston 10,126.1
27 Whole Foods Market 264 Austin 10,107.8
28 Tenet Healthcare 272 Dallas 9,601.0
29 GameStop 273 Grapevine 9,550.5
30 KBR 280 Houston 9,261.0
31 Enbridge Energy Partners 282 Houston 9,109.8
32 Western Refining 285 El Paso 9,071.0
33 CenterPoint Energy 305 Houston 8,450.0
34 Kinder Morgan 311 Houston 8,264.9
35 Energy Transfer Equity 312 Dallas 8,240.7
36 Commercial Metals 326 Irving 7,919.8
37 Energy Future Holdings 357 Dallas 7,040.0
38 Targa Resources 361 Houston 6,994.5
39 Cameron International 362 Houston 6,959.0
40 Calpine 364 Houston 6,800.0
41 Celanese 368 Dallas 6,763.0
42 NuStar Energy 377 San Antonio 6,575.3
43 CC Media Holdings 394 San Antonio 6,161.4
44 Group 1 Automotive 405 Houston 6,079.8
45 Dr Pepper Snapple Group 417 Plano 5,903.0
46 Spectra Energy 438 Houston 5,602.0
47 FMC Technologies 475 Houston 5,099.0
48 CVR Energy 477 Sugar Land 5,029.1
49 Susser Holdings 486 Corpus Christi 4,873.8
50 El Paso 488 Houston 4,860.0
51 MetroPCS Communications 490 Richardson 4,847.4
52 MRC Global 493 Houston 4,832.4

State: Maine

There are no Fortune 500 companies in this state.

Issue date: May 21, 2012

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

But carry-on being ill-informed.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Not ill informed. That idiot nutball is flat out lying and he knows it.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Thank you there Mr Whitney, by that argument they should move to the Mid-West, because 75 years ago about 35% OF THE WORLD’S GDP was in 7 mid-western states, now known, colloquially as “The Rust Belt.”

I mis-spoke.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

The north Atlantic coast was

The South was

The operative word Was….

Barred on April 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Maine? The place could turn into a socialist People’s Republic the next election. Worse, the other People’s Republics like NY and CT can pass laws prohibiting gun manufacturers from shipping their products through their Republics, for spite (don’t be surprised if they try it).

Texas would be a better place.

Liam on April 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

You sound jealous. Been to Texas lately? The Texas economy is impervious to obama’s economy. But, please, do continue to gate while they flourish. They don’t want sh!tbugs like you anyway. They like their men to be men.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Then why is Stuttering Rick Perry making a big deal about trying to attract talent from California and the Northeast. You know, talent that Texas is desperate to have. Why do Texas companies have so many vacancies in high skill positions which they can’t fill DESPITE the poor job market?

Texas is literally begging for smarter, more skilled people from other states to move there and help them. Pathetic.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Why do businesses advertise, you dumb a$$? Hmmm.
Check out my above list.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Pathetic.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

No where near as pathetic as your lies.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Reading isn’t you strong suit is it? He was obviously referring to the fact that the CURRENT HQs are all in places like CT, NY, MA, and MD. He doesn’t understand why that is. So I filled him in. Maine has nothing to do with the point.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Texas is literally begging for smarter, more skilled people from other states to move there and help them. Pathetic.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Hoo-boy, “pathetic”…I mean how patheitc was it that Germany had to import hundreds of thousands of gastarbeit, because their economy was going to strong that Germans couldn’t fill all the spots?

So who is MORE “pathetic” Germany/Texas with a burgeoning demand for employees or Turkey/California that has a SURPLUS of employees, due to a poor economy?

Get back to me on that would you; I’d be interested in your take on it.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Reading isn’t you strong suit is it?

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Intelligence isn’t yours.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Maine also is one of only two states where the population is actually decreasing – West Virginia being the other.

bw222 on April 14, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Then why is Stuttering Rick Perry making a big deal about trying to attract talent from California and the Northeast. You know, talent that Texas is desperate to have. Why do Texas companies have so many vacancies in high skill positions which they can’t fill DESPITE the poor job market?

Texas is literally begging for smarter, more skilled people from other states to move there and help them. Pathetic.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

speakingof stuttering….

” i think, i, uh…..picked the ugliest, uh….nastiest….female on the planet to uh…..beard for me……uh…..so noone would, uh……think i was….uh….the homosexual that i…..uh….am” – Barack Hussein Obama

GhoulAid on April 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Reading isn’t you strong suit is it? He was obviously referring to the fact that the CURRENT HQs are all in places like CT, NY, MA, and MD. He doesn’t understand why that is. So I filled him in. Maine has nothing to do with the point.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Pwned, but still trying to make your point. How many of those bastions of freedom currently have gun control legislation that will stifle said gun employers of their residents? Was is a painful word when you’re losing out.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Maine has nothing to do with the point.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Yet everything to due with the thread. Fail.

D-fusit on April 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Manufacturers,

Maine is little more than a beautiful upstate CT. Move south. Live a comfortable, modern life amongst friendly people.

ROCnPhilly on April 14, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I sent a letter to our Governor, our’s being Montana, to do the same, I think we can compete with Texas, colder but better hunting, though both states have problems with border crossers :), those damned Canadians.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Hoo-boy, “pathetic”…I mean how patheitc was it that Germany had to import hundreds of thousands of gastarbeit, because their economy was going to strong that Germans couldn’t fill all the spots?

So who is MORE “pathetic” Germany/Texas with a burgeoning demand for employees or Turkey/California that has a SURPLUS of employees, due to a poor economy?

Get back to me on that would you; I’d be interested in your take on it.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Nice try, except that Germany’s per capita GDP is much higher than Turkey’s. And California’s is much higher than Texas’. A more accurate comparison is California employing hundreds of thousands of “gastarbeiter” aka illegal immigrants. Which last I checked, all you lying hypocrits have a problem with.

Germany isn’t bringing in Turks to work in Frankfurt financial firms or Munich tech companies. It’s importing them to fill the menial labor. Texas is begging the rest of the US to please move there, because there isn’t enough local skilled labor. The situation is the exact same as happens in developing countries, where they beg big European and American companies to please please move there and open factories for the proletarians to work in. Yeah, those places have fast growing economies: Phillipines, Botswana, Ghana. They all have 3-5x the economic growth rate of the US. Are you going to argue that that they are doing better than the US? Because that’s the arguement you are making in reference to Texas.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Maine also invented the toothbrush. Because if it were invented anywhere else, they’d call it a teethbrush.

John the Libertarian on April 14, 2013 at 4:20 PM

DaiKookoo’s head exploded.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

…though both states have problems with border crossers :)…

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:18 PM

But those Canookians are harder to understand.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

DaiKookoo’s head exploded.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

How can you tell?

The idiot spews the same crap whether his head has exploded, or not.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

There are no Fortune 500 companies in this state.

Issue date: May 21, 2012

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

LL Bean isn’t in the top 500? It’s a pretty awesome company.

John the Libertarian on April 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Well, after consulting the Legal Heat App. it doesn’t look all that great for Mainers. They have a 3 cartridge rating compared to a 4 cartridge rating for Texas. The only states with a 5 cartridge rating are Idaho, Utah, and Vermont.

fourdeucer on April 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

DaiKookoo’s head exploded.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:21 PM

How can you tell?

The idiot spews the same crap whether his head has exploded, or not.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

When you clean up all the crap, could you make me a sammich and this beer could be colder.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

There are no Fortune 500 companies in this state.

Issue date: May 21, 2012

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

LL Bean isn’t in the top 500? It’s a pretty awesome company.

John the Libertarian on April 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Not according to Forbes. A lot of their stuff is made in China.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Well, after consulting the Legal Heat App. it doesn’t look all that great for Mainers. They have a 3 cartridge rating compared to a 4 cartridge rating for Texas. The only states with a 5 cartridge rating are Idaho, Utah, and Vermont.

fourdeucer on April 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

So 2 in the West, and one in the Northeast. And none in the South. “Good ‘ole boy” wannabes hardest hit.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Yeah, that was the point, which you missed. You get to make me a sammich and grab me a beer and please look good while doing it like a Texas gal.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, but that was because you reversed the order of the statement I was making and I understood you to be dissing Texas wimmins. But I’m not a debate Nazi on the interwebs, just in real life.

I won’t make you a sammich, I’m too busy brewing my own beer.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

There are no Fortune 500 companies in this state.

Issue date: May 21, 2012

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

LL Bean isn’t in the top 500? It’s a pretty awesome company.

John the Libertarian on April 14, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Not according to Forbes. A lot of their stuff is made in China.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Ahem, Fortune.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Hehehehehe….

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

A lot of their stuff is made in China.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Figures.

John the Libertarian on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

It’s only a matter of time before the northern New England state are brought to heel by their southern brothers.

If I were Magpul, Stag Arms or any other manufacturer I’d move to a low cost, gun friendly state… Texas would be very high on my list.

darkpixel on April 14, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Well, if you’re in California, Oregon or Washington, Utah and Idaho are in the East…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Well, after consulting the Legal Heat App. it doesn’t look all that great for Mainers. They have a 3 cartridge rating compared to a 4 cartridge rating for Texas. The only states with a 5 cartridge rating are Idaho, Utah, and Vermont.

fourdeucer on April 14, 2013 at 4:24 PM

So 2 in the West, and one in the Northeast. And none in the South. “Good ‘ole boy” wannabes hardest hit.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Naruto? Wait for the slave/confederate flag argument to be sure, but this crap sounds familiar.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013

…Coo Coo for Cocoa Puffs!

KOOLAID2 on April 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

You ever hear of yankee ingenuity? The north Atlantic coast was an industrial hotbed of development and technology. The South was an agrarian economy dependent on slave labor. Which one is going to be making all the guns?

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Sounds like someone hasn’t been keeping up with current events.

Yankee ingenuity? HAH!
Um, and Texas isn’t the “South.” Texas is Texas. And it’s still better than any sh!thole state you’re promoting.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Nothing in Maine but Moose and Potatoes. Come to New Hampshire. We have a history of firearms manifacturers.

Sig Sauer and Sturm Ruger. More is better and we don’t have an income or sales tax. :)

evilned on April 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Yeah, that was the point, which you missed. You get to make me a sammich and grab me a beer and please look good while doing it like a Texas gal.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Perhaps I misunderstood your point, but that was because you reversed the order of the statement I was making and I understood you to be dissing Texas wimmins. But I’m not a debate Nazi on the interwebs, just in real life.

I won’t make you a sammich, I’m too busy brewing my own beer.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 4:27 PM

My bad.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Well, if you’re in California, Oregon or Washington, Utah and Idaho are in the East…

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:30 PM

And if you’re in Florida, Alabama and Mississippi are in the North! Yankee Northerners! Derp!

^catman logic. herp derp

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:32 PM

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Sure, let me finish putting this powder away and I’ll get right on it. Eight rounds of steelshot sammich coming up.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Nothing in Maine but Moose and Potatoes. Come to New Hampshire. We have a history of firearms manifacturers.

Sig Sauer and Sturm Ruger. More is better and we don’t have an income or sales tax. :)

evilned on April 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Moss grows on ammo in the northleast. Come to Nevada where our powder is always dry!
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VegasRick on April 14, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Maine has electric dipsticks in the crankcase to keep your oil from turning to gum on winter nights.

Texas has the Alamo to remind them of the risks of tyranny.

Tough choice.

profitsbeard on April 14, 2013 at 4:35 PM

And it’s still better than any sh!thole state you’re promoting.

john1schn on April 14, 2013 at 4:31 PM

The idiot refuses to promote a state. Then it would be known what an ignorant socialist he is.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Hehehehe…

And it’s not catman.

It’s catmman: Combat Arms Training and Maintenance.

You can call me Ray and you can call me Jay but please, use my Internet handle properly.

On a personal note, go derp yourself.

:)

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Sure, let me finish putting this powder away and I’ll get right on it. Eight rounds of steelshot sammich coming up.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Hold the mustard.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Lemme check my map: MAP

Nope, looks like Texas is the go to place.

justltl on April 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013

You’re a pompous ahole and nobody likes you. Have a great day.

CW on April 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Come to Montana. We have lots of open space to choose from and interstates go through every large city. We have two great national parks, world class hunting and fishing and bison burgers and huckleberry milkshakes. No sales tax. Lewis and Clark almost stopped their travels here.

Kissmygrits on April 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Hold the mustard.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

No mustard in this house. You take it with remoulade or you don’t take it at all.

cozmo on April 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Advice from a Minnesnowtan:

If you are foolish enough to go to a Blue State then go to Wisconsin.

(Damn, I can’t believe I wrote that; now for sure Bishop will be pissed…)

Anyway, two words: Scott Walker.

Bruno Strozek on April 14, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Hehehehe…

And it’s not catman.

It’s catmman: Combat Arms Training and Maintenance.

You can call me Ray and you can call me Jay but please, use my Internet handle properly.

On a personal note, go derp yourself.

:)

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Reading isn’t you strong suit is it?

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Nice, catmman. :)

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Right, but when he loses re-election thanks to these remarks, the next Governor will make the state miserable for all law-abiding, gun-toting citizens and the manufacturers of said products. No thanks.

njrob on April 14, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Lemme check my map: MAP

Nope, looks like Texas is the go to place.

justltl on April 14, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I’m glad to know that I will be residing in the “New America”.

VegasRick on April 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Dear Red Staters, come to NC. Help us turn the state Red again, the purple is starting to annoy.

nobar on April 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM

and huckleberry milkshakes Kissmygrits on April 14, 2013 at 4:40 PM

I’m looking forward to gathering them this summer up behind my house. These are some of the best berries in the world. But yeah come to Montana, where fed guns laws don’t apply to native Montanians. Hell I bought my old man a mini 14 and was out the door in three minutes. Also did we mention the great hunting and plenty of good workers.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Dear Red Staters, come to NC. Help us turn the state Red again, the purple is starting to annoy.

nobar on April 14, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Same thing here. My folks moved me to NV in 1977 and we were always a fiercely independent people but then all of the calilibs and illegal aliens started showing up. That’s how you wind up with a douchebag like harry red.

VegasRick on April 14, 2013 at 4:51 PM

I’m looking forward to gathering them this summer up behind my house. These are some of the best berries in the world. But yeah come to Montana, where fed guns laws don’t apply to native Montanians. Hell I bought my old man a mini 14 and was out the door in three minutes. Also did we mention the great hunting and plenty of good workers.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Well, that’s not going to help the transplants then, is it? Nor should it. And nor should you be trying to call transplants aka locusts aka the horde of wreckers and parasitic scum.

Trash from California and the Midwest and South are destroying the Rocky Mountain States. Expunge them all and don’t allow them to set up a foothold. There is a reason that they are living their festering hellholes, and they are the cause of that festering. They should stay in Cali/the Midwest/the South and live with their mistakes.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Hehehehe…

And it’s not catman.

It’s catmman: Combat Arms Training and Maintenance.

You can call me Ray and you can call me Jay but please, use my Internet handle properly.

On a personal note, go derp yourself.

:)

catmman on April 14, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Nice, catmman. :)

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Second that!

fourdeucer on April 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Daikokuco, I believe only one state has added employment since 2008 (Net) that would be TEXAS. So Cali’s PER GDP may be greater, but it’s unemployment is greater, and it is busy spending its capital, human and literal, at an unsustainable rate…driving many of its best and brightest out.

So yes German/Texas looks good as comparison, California/Turkey works too…because those two had RELATIVELY WEAKER economies, even if, for the moment, California is “richer” than Texas.

And Texas is the double winner, the Turks did perform menial “grunt” labour, by your own account the California ex-pat’s are anything but….so California is spending itself into oblivion, and sending out it’s human seed corn to other states, making it even MORE difficult to right the ship.

JFKY on April 14, 2013 at 4:58 PM

This Texas stuff reminds me of a King of the Hill episode when they visit Peggy’s family up here in Montana, where the son learns to ride and be a real cowboy. That killed it for me. I do consider you Texans as one of Montana’s great allies in the west, or like a cousin who’s a little too loud and proud, but someone whom I’d want on my side in a fight.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM

It would be a mistake to go to Maine. Maine also has a heavy Democrat constituency and only recently has seen some Republicans take power. It would be a bad move for those gun companies to go to a state that could easily go back to 100% blue and then they’d find another noxious atmosphere for their businesses. Maine is a bad move.

Warner Todd Huston on April 14, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Texas women vs Maine women.
No comparison,

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 3:41 PM

MSNBC’s Contessa Brewer is from Maine. She’s hot, but sadly has the intelligence level of a two-holer (any Maine farmer can tell you what that is).

Del Dolemonte on April 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

This Texas stuff reminds me of a King of the Hill episode when they visit Peggy’s family up here in Montana, where the son learns to ride and be a real cowboy. That killed it for me. I do consider you Texans as one of Montana’s great allies in the west, or like a cousin who’s a little too loud and proud, but someone whom I’d want on my side in a fight.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Texans lack so much self awareness that they don’t realize their stupid “big tough cowboy” shtick makes them a laughing stock in all the non-poser states. Texans always compare themselves to New Yorkers and Californians, and love to boast about how genuine and whatever they supposedly are. But in Idaho, Montana, Utah, Colorado, WYOMING, New Mexico, Texans are a big stuffed shirt pathetic JOKE. Bunch of sequined wannabes. Like the rest of their Southern ilk.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Trash from California and the Midwest and South are destroying the Rocky Mountain States. Expunge them all and don’t allow them to set up a foothold. There is a reason that they are living their festering hellholes, and they are the cause of that festering. They should stay in Cali/the Midwest/the South and live with their mistakes.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Dude my family left California, but the meat of it is we came to California in the 1840′s. I and my family are of the true pioneers stock. Most people in the west don’t have those creds. And it is bullsh!t to tell me and my family that they would have to stay in a state ruined by northeast progressive idiots coming out west in the last century. And if we voted against the leftist crap is that still Our mistake? You sound like a collectivist, especially when talking about a state of 30 plus million people. The same stupidity when I hear people bash Americans on a whole. I always think, how can one just lay a blanket statement about 300 million people. Its a simpletons thought process.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Bunch of sequined wannabes. Like the rest of their Southern ilk.

Daily kos kuckcoo on April 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Stereotype much?

Or are you referring to Texan sequined wannabees Al Green and Sheila Jackson Lee?

Del Dolemonte on April 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM

This Texas stuff reminds me of a King of the Hill episode when they visit Peggy’s family up here in Montana, where the son learns to ride and be a real cowboy. That killed it for me. I do consider you Texans as one of Montana’s great allies in the west, or like a cousin who’s a little too loud and proud, but someone whom I’d want on my side in a fight.

19thgenamerican on April 14, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Texans lack so much self awareness that they don’t realize their stupid “big tough cowboy” shtick makes them a laughing stock in all the non-poser states. Texans always compare themselves to New Yorkers and Californians, and love to boast about how genuine and whatever they supposedly are. But in Idaho, Montana, Utah, Colorado, WYOMING, New Mexico, Texans are a big stuffed shirt pathetic JOKE. Bunch of sequined wannabes. Like the rest of their Southern ilk.

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 5:04 PM

And yet, the Texas economy is humming along and daikookoo is just jealous, sitting around in his dirty diaper with no one to change him.

RovesChins on April 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Daikokuco on April 14, 2013 at 4:06 PM

speakingof stuttering….

” i think, i, uh…..picked the ugliest, uh….nastiest….female on the planet to uh…..beard for me……uh…..so noone would, uh……think i was….uh….the homosexual that i…..uh….am” – Barack Hussein Obama

GhoulAid on April 14, 2013 at 4:14 PM

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Bulls-eye!
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RalphyBoy on April 14, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Aww. Sounds like kuku must have gotten beat up all the time by kids with a southern accent. Boo Hoo!

VegasRick on April 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM

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