Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on April 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

Something truly remarkable happened yesterday. After days and weeks of pushing by New Media and social media, the mainstream media has not only admitted that they should have covered the ongoing capital murder trial of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell, they have promised to immediately remedy that mistake…

This is not the usual-usual from our media. Normally, like a game, the media will only admit to this kind of oversight long after it is too late to do anything about it. Worse still, the admission of the mistake is generally just a convenient excuse for the media to talk about its favorite subject — themselves.

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Much of the speculation has been about why so many news outlets ignored the story. But perhaps the real story here is the way the trial became a national story without the help of the MSM—and arguably even despite its best efforts to ignore the trial. In the last century, there were a few central news gatekeepers who controlled what stories Americans heard. The internet and social media have changed all that; the people have swept aside the gatekeepers and ripped the gates from their hinges.

The MSM is no longer in control; anyone and everyone now has the tools to call the media out and if the story is hot and compelling enough (and the trial of an accused multiple baby killer passes that test with ease), it will force itself into the national conversation.

Good.

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“Leading the conversation” is how you end up with the major Sunday shows somehow neglecting to invite a single anti-amnesty politician on a weekend dominated by the immigration debate. It’s how you end up with officially nonideological anchors and journalists lecturing social conservatives for being out of step with modern values. And it’s how you end up with a press corps that went all-in for the supposed “war on women” having to be shamed and harassed — by two writers in particular, Kirsten Powers in USA Today and Mollie Ziegler Hemingway of GetReligion — into paying attention to the grisly case of a Philadelphia doctor whose methods of late-term abortion included snipping the spines of neonates after they were delivered.

As the last example suggests, the problem here isn’t that American journalists are too quick to go on crusades. Rather, it’s that the press’s ideological blinders limit the kinds of crusades mainstream outlets are willing to entertain, and the formal commitment to neutrality encourages self-deception about what counts as crusading.

The core weakness of the mainstream media, in this sense, is less liberalism than parochialism. The same habits of mind that make bipartisanthink seem like the height of wisdom also make it easy to condescend to causes and groups that seem disreputable and to underplay stories that might vindicate them.

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But I understand why my readers suspect me, and other pro-choice mainstream journalists, of being selective—of not wanting to cover the story because it showcased the ugliest possibilities of abortion rights. The truth is that most of us tend to be less interested in sick-making stories—if the sick-making was done by “our side.”

Moreover, surely those of us who are pro-choice must worry that this will restrict access to abortion: that a crackdown on abortion clinics will follow, with onerous white-glove inspections; that a revolted public will demand more restrictions on late-term abortions; or that women will be too afraid of Gosnell-style crimes to seek a medically necessary abortion…

I could defend myself by saying that I wasn’t aware that the Gosnell trial was going on. Abortion is not my beat, and the mailing lists that I am on weren’t exactly blasting the news of this trial.

But that doesn’t totally let me off the hook. I knew about the Gosnell case, and I wish I had followed it more closely, even though I’d rather not.

***

Some news organizations may have considered the national angle to be a stretch. Although possible, it’s a bit difficult to draw the connection between a doctor delivering premature babies, then murdering them and calling it abortion, to the overall debate that we are having in this country over who should have access to abortions and how they should be paid for.

There are important questions journalists can be asking to determine whether local stories like the Gosnell case are worth national media attention: Does the story inform our public debate about abortion? Is there a larger meaning to be gained? Or is there interest because it’s shocking and abhorrent?

The answer to all three questions is likely yes. But it will be a hollow answer if the debate about Gosnell focuses more on the media’s alleged crimes.

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I will grant his silly argument this – that no doubt there are many so-called conservatives who reflexively shy away from stories like these because they’re cowed by the broader culture into feeling it’s somehow uptight, provincial and problematic in image terms to be seen to make a fuss about a mountain of dead babies. As Andy’s powerful column reminds us this weekend, the left is brilliant at framing the debate in language that demoralizes too much of the right into pre-emptive surrender.

But some of us have argued a consistent position on this case for over two years now: Relatively few people wish to commit mass murder on the scale of Gosnell – that’s the good news. The bad news is that the vast ranks of newspaper publishers, TV executives, editors, news producers, radio assignment editors, and reporters somehow reached an instant, near universal consensus that a man who may well be America’s all-time champion mass murderer isn’t a story at all, never mind one to hold the front page for – because they didn’t see him as a murderer; they saw him as a “choice-provider” who got a little out of hand.

That’s a dark, disturbing stain on our culture and our morality.

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Our country is trying very hard not to think about abortion — about the physical reality of abortion. Earlier this year, the Colorado Supreme Court upheld a ban on the use of what critics insist on calling “graphic images” — but what is in fact simple photography — in abortion protests. Similar attempts to suppress free speech on the subject of abortion crop up regularly. Abortion is a strange issue in that it is the allegedly secular and materialist side of the debate that finds itself taking refuge in metaphysics, in this case the fiction of “personhood” that suddenly descends upon a human being at some point. The other side, thought to be populated mostly by religious cranks, is content to address the physical reality of abortion, the facts that cannot be denied but may be ignored.

The Gosnell case is shocking, but only because it makes visible and explicit what had been hidden and implicit. Every abortion is a shocking act of grisly violence — against the baby, who is murdered, and against the mother, whose body is converted into a crime scene. Taking some account of the moral reckoning of what our country has been up to for the past 40 years is a task of great scope and complexity. It is a job that is too big for the mass media. But willfully ignoring the story is a job that is not too big for them, even though doing so reveals our mighty newspapers and television networks to be smaller than we had thought. If this is what American newspapers have to offer, then they do not deserve to survive, and they will not. But the culpability is not theirs alone: There is a reason that there are many newspapers called The Mirror.

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Paul-Cincy on April 13, 2013 at 8:35 PM

Its all so horrible.

rob verdi on April 13, 2013 at 8:37 PM

…JugEars missing father!

KOOLAID2 on April 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

That picture of the Bad Ass..

Looks like the scan of Obama’s birth certificate.

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

…JugEars missing father!

KOOLAID2 on April 13, 2013 at 8:38 PM

He found him…
An a son…

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Where was Obama..
To fly the Kermit Gosnell’s victims on Air-force Won…
back to D.C.

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

This NRA race is on fire!

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Schadenfreude,

This is for you if and when you show up;)

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Schadenfreude,

Ok, let me try that again, seems the link won’t post.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6hpWjWtZ8s

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Someone had to be heroic to get the State Run Media just to do its job? How far we have come…

d1carter on April 13, 2013 at 8:50 PM

I’ll give credit to CNN for — finally — doing a stand-up job and covering Gosnell on all of its evening programs.

Although, it was clear their blinders were still on when Anderson Cooper rolled-out ole Jeff Toobin to deny that the media had a pro-abortion agenda.

Anyone remember this:

NY Daily News:
Baby drama! CNN star Jeffrey Toobin offered Casey Greenfield money for abortion: sources

Robert_Paulson on April 13, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Someone on another thread made a good point (sorry, not sure who) ….

Interesting that the press will be present just in time to to cover the DEFENSE, isn’t it ?
What sort of a saint will Gosnell be painted as ??

pambi on April 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

I hear the gun control folks are going after the drivers, suggesting they not go to the winner’s circle with the NRA logo. I read earlier that NASCAR is going to give future sponsorships more scrutiny.

Cindy Munford on April 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Like Hawkdriver posted earlier today….

A Pro Choice person compared a newborn that was target for abortion..
as a criminal..

Damn that life!!!!
Did you know that you are not wanted??!!!

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Although possible, it’s a bit difficult to draw the connection between a doctor delivering premature babies, then murdering them and calling it abortion, to the overall debate that we are having in this country over who should have access to abortions and how they should be paid for.

In the minds of the media, the only debate going on about abortion is who pays for it, and how do we ensure everyone has access, i.e., let’s build an abortion clinic on every street corner. They pretend there is no other debate, which makes it easier to ignore stories like Gosnell.

mbs on April 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

pambi on April 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

We already know the answer to that one. From the Associated Press:

Gosnell, an elegant man who appears serene in court, smiled softly as he listened to testimony last week, even that of a young woman who said she was hospitalized for two weeks after a 2009 abortion.

Farcical.

Robert_Paulson on April 13, 2013 at 8:59 PM

I read earlier that NASCAR is going to give future sponsorships more scrutiny.

Cindy Munford on April 13, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Where did you read that?

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Gosnell is an abortion doctor.

SparkPlug on April 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Results for #gosnell
Tweets Top / All
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Marco Rubio Marco Rubio ‏@marcorubio 12 Apr

Media blackout of Kermit #Gosnell case is shameful but not surprising. Powerful example of msm bias in America today. http://usat.ly/XE6HK8
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https://twitter.com/search?q=%23gosnell

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:04 PM

Gosnell is an abortion doctor.

SparkPlug on April 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

He works for the devil and the left endorses him with their deliberate silence..

My take of course..

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

James Taranto ‏@jamestaranto 36m

Note NYT’s page A17 story calls #Gosnell’s alleged victims “fetuses.” http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/us/philadelphia-abortion-doctors-murder-trial-opens.html

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Evening everyone.

Canopfor…I hope Marco Rubio remembers this “powerful example of MSM bias in America today” when he hits 5 Sunday shows tomorrow!

thanks for the info!

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Jim Treacher ‏@jtLOL 1h

If you think Mitch McConnell holding a campaign meeting is bigger news than Kermit #Gosnell pickling babies’ feet, #YouMightBeALiberal.

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:07 PM

The truth is that most of us tend to be less interested in sick-making stories—if the sick-making was done by “our side.”…

Lord, may the scales continue to fall from their eyes and ALLAHPUNDIT REMIND THEM OF THEIR BEHAVIOR OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS AT EVERY TURN!!!

at. every. turn.

ted c on April 13, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Evening everyone.

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Evening….

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:08 PM

I could defend myself by saying that I wasn’t aware that the Gosnell trial was going on.

But you can’t…or else you have to admit as a member of the media you live under a rock.

Gosnell made the news in February of 2010. That’s over three years ago.

Two Dozen Frozen Fetuses Found In Philadelphia Doctor’s Office

A shocking discovery was made in the office of a Philadelphia doctor by authorities investigating the report of a woman’s death during an abortion. Two dozen frozen fetuses were found in Dr. Kermit Gosnell’s office displayed in jars. Some of the fetuses date back over 30 years.

The woman died in November 2009. (Gosnell had a prior reprimand in 1995). The Grand Jury report came out in January 2011.

If you do a search for “Gosnell” at Jill Stanek’s site, you will find has nine pages of posts that go back to February 2010.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Evening everyone.

Canopfor…I hope Marco Rubio remembers this “powerful example of MSM bias in America today” when he hits 5 Sunday shows tomorrow!

thanks for the info!

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:06 PM

CooffeLover:Good Evening CL,..

…oh man,it’ll probably be the Newton Parent Video
from the White House Weekly Address,for all the
shows,…..which will get 80% attention,and I do
hope, I’m, wrong!:)

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

:) EG

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Obama while leading the fight to kill the Illinois Born Alive Infant Protection Act:

“… if these children are being born alive, I, at least, have confidence that a doctor who is in that room is going to make sure that they’re looked after.”

hepcat on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I am sure you are right about more MSM promoting the WH talking points as they do day in day out but I think Rubio is going to be interesting to watch attempt to roll out this immigration mess.

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Gosnell is an abortion doctor.

SparkPlug on April 13, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Gosnell,is Worshipping at the,

crap,sorry,I boinkerd that up,

…Gosnell is/was Operating on the Alter of Liberalism
and Worshipping The Death Cult of Progressivism!!!

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Hmmmmm…….

Kirsten Powers ‏@kirstenpowers10 7h

If u are a Christian upset abt #Gosnell, Pls read this incredibly important piece by Elizabeth Scalia: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2013/04/12/is-turn-in-gosnell-awareness-a-wave-in-tide-of-gods-mercy/ … @TheAnchoress
=======================================

Is MSM Awareness of Gosnell a Wave in Tide of God’s Mercy? UPDATE
April 12, 2013
**************

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/theanchoress/2013/04/12/is-turn-in-gosnell-awareness-a-wave-in-tide-of-gods-mercy/

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Keep in mind, every moment, the trolls here have said Gosnell is a ‘non-story’. Along with that, they are certain we are evil for keeping abreast of it.

Remember the trolls, People.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Now that the MSM has finally awoke, it is now reasonable to ask them, well, what else have you missed over the last few years due to these “blackouts”?
#ACORN
#fastnfurious
#Benghazi

and i’m just gettin’ a started.

It’s a crying shame that murdered babies had to occur before they looked up from their latte’s with a “hmmph?!”…..

shame

ted c on April 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Herman Cain ‏@THEHermanCain 7h

Last night AC360 and @cnn were finally shamed into covering the #Gosnell story. About time! http://www.caintv.com/cnn-finally-covers-gosnell-on … #tcot

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Moreover, surely those of us who are pro-choice must worry that this will restrict access to abortion: that a crackdown on abortion clinics will follow, with onerous white-glove inspections; that a revolted public will demand more restrictions on late-term abortions; or that women will be too afraid of Gosnell-style crimes to seek a medically necessary abortion…

He says that as if it’s a bad thing. And I love/s the way he say “medically necessary”. He has to slip that in to try to justify abortion while being pressured to write about Gosnell.

Check out Saletan’s Winter 2011 Back Alley series that began with Gosnell and went on the horrors of Florida abortion clinics and how the abortion industry wants no inspections.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Our country is trying very hard not to think about abortion — about the physical reality of abortion. Earlier this year, the Colorado Supreme Court upheld a ban on the use of what critics insist on calling “graphic images” — but what is in fact simple photography — in abortion protests. Similar attempts to suppress free speech on the subject of abortion crop up regularly. Abortion is a strange issue in that it is the allegedly secular and materialist side of the debate that finds itself taking refuge in metaphysics, in this case the fiction of “personhood” that suddenly descends upon a human being at some point. The other side, thought to be populated mostly by religious cranks, is content to address the physical reality of abortion, the facts that cannot be denied but may be ignored.

Kevin D. Williamson, National Review Online

.
Can’t agree with you on that, Kevin.

A small minority of Americans are being ‘evasive’ about the subject of abortion, and the “physical reality” thereof.

But the MAJORITY of those persons who control news media outlets, are included in that minority. As such, they are able to disproportionately exaggerate (in other words, misrepresent) their own numbers and percentages.

listens2glenn on April 13, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Now that the MSM has finally awoke, it is now reasonable to ask them, well, what else have you missed over the last few years due to these “blackouts”?

ted c on April 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Nope. The Five never mentioned it. Therefor, the liberal media are free and clear.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Keep in mind, every moment, the trolls here have said Gosnell is a ‘non-story’. Along with that, they are certain we are evil for keeping abreast of it.

Remember the trolls, People.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:19 PM

“Nothing to see here folks. Nobody will care about one of the most (maybe the most) prolific serial killers in US history. Nope. Not important that maybe the only other acts of man that took more lives then Gosnell in the United States are 9/11 and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Move along!”

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

http://www.jillstanek.com/2013/01/aborted-babies-represented-at-obama-inauguration/

Signs of aborted babies held at Obama’s inauguration route. Notice the tiny hand superimposed on a quarter and the horrific image of a tiny dismembered child compared with the size of an Obama political button.

Perhaps after the media reports on Gosnell, they can go back and look at these.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 9:25 PM

“Nothing to see here folks. Nobody will care about one of the most (maybe the most) prolific serial killers in US history. Nope. Not important that maybe the only other acts of man that took more lives then Gosnell in the United States are 9/11 and the bombing of Pearl Harbor. Move along!”

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Worse. What the troll thuja said on other threads will curl your hair, even if you’re bald.

It was really that bad, that heartless.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Worse. What the troll thuja said on other threads will curl your hair, even if you’re bald.

It was really that bad, that heartless.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I read thuja’s posts. May God have mercy on his soul.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

THE END IS NIGH! eleventy-leven!

North Korea is gonna’ nuke us, live babies being murdered to keep the successful abortion stats, Dennis Rodman and Jay-Z (there is a Jay RWM can bash to her little heart’s content) are our foreign ambassadors and Hot Gas is over run with nutballs.

So there! Something is coming off and I’m gonna’ mix a drink.

cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Worse. What the troll thuja said on other threads will curl your hair, even if you’re bald.

It was really that bad, that heartless.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Plug Biden is immune..

“Shot two time in the morning if you want something…”

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I read thuja’s posts. May God have mercy on his soul.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

You’re more polite than me.

According to Scripture, it’s not a sin to call curse and destruction, as God wills, against the most abhorrent of evils.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I am sure you are right about more MSM promoting the WH talking points as they do day in day out but I think Rubio is going to be interesting to watch attempt to roll out this immigration mess.

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:14 PM

CoffeeLover:

A mess it is,I wonder if Rubio weighs in on this tidbit
that popped up early,in the news:)

And Immigration TwitteR Linky:)
===============================

Undocumented immigrants who entered the country after December 31, 2011, will not be eligible for citizenship under terms of the immigration deal set to be unveiled Tuesday – @PoliticalTicker

8 hours ago from politicalticker.blogs.nn.com by editor

http://www.breakingnews.com/topic/us-senate-immigration-reform-deal

Results for #immigration

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23immigration&src=hash

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

I think God is going to sit that one out.

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

You’re more polite than me.

According to Scripture, it’s not a sin to call curse and destruction, as God wills, against the most abhorrent of evils.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I’ve told thuja many times what I think of him.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Plug Biden is immune..

“Shot two time in the morning if you want something…”

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:30 PM

We all ‘get’, according to our lives here on Earth.

Without repentance, Biden doesn’t know what is prepared for him. It’s going to come as quite a shock to him, I imagine.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:33 PM

Something truly remarkable happened yesterday. After days and weeks of pushing by New Media and social media, the mainstream media has not only admitted that they should have covered the ongoing capital murder trial of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell, they have promised to immediately remedy that mistake…

Next stop: maybe they will start digging Ito the president and hold him accountable.

Worse. What the troll thuja said on other threads will curl your hair, even if you’re bald.

It was really that bad, that heartless.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I read thuja’s posts. May God have mercy on his soul.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

It has no soul to have mercy on.

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I had seen the date from the dribbles leaking out. What I find more compelling is the illegals now crossing the border taunting the BP that Obama is going to let them go/which way to apply for amnesty, etc.!

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

I’ve told thuja many times what I think of him.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:32 PM

I have no doubts you have. He’s really quite horrid, which doesn’t stop him. Time, maybe, to dust off your feet and move on to more fertile ground?

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM

It has no soul to have mercy on.

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 9:34 PM

I truly believe there comes a time to walk away from the evil that rejects God, to leave them to themselves.

In the physical world, the worst thing to do to a liberal is leave them to pay for their own demands. That’s why so many lids are freaking against their precious Obamacare.

One lib, when I said that, got pissy and dared say I’m ‘mean’.

So cute!

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:43 PM

North Korea is gonna’ nuke us, live babies being murdered to keep the successful abortion stats, Dennis Rodman and Jay-Z (there is a Jay RWM can bash to her little heart’s content) are our foreign ambassadors and Hot Gas is over run with nutballs.

So there! Something is coming off and I’m gonna’ mix a drink.

cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

cozmo:You had to bring up North Korea and NutBalls:)
=====================================================

ex-NBA star Dennis Rodman says he’ll return to North Korea on Aug. 1 – @GossipExtra

23 mins ago from gossipextra.com by editor

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:43 PM

Why Obama And The Left Don’t Care About Kermit Gosnell

It’s Not Abortion, Stupid. It’s M-U-R-D-E-R! (Warning: Graphic Pictures)

Stop the Killing. Stop the Crying.

Resist We Much on April 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

“Punished with a baby..”

That’s all that needs to be said..
besides your site..
Of course :)

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Why Obama And The Left Don’t Care About Kermit Gosnell

It’s Not Abortion, Stupid. It’s M-U-R-D-E-R! (Warning: Graphic Pictures)

Stop the Killing. Stop the Crying.

Resist We Much on April 13, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Oh..

I didn’t realize that was multiple links..
What a disgusting thing Obama is..

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Time, maybe, to dust off your feet and move on to more fertile ground?

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:38 PM

Maybe. But just like we need to shine a bright light on the Gosnells of the world, and the shameful media that refuses to cover them, we need to shine a bright light on all evil minded individuals whether or not the evil minded individuals will listen to good sense themselves. They do provide a positive in their own right by opening the eyes of those who haven’t yet seen.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:31 PM

I had seen the date from the dribbles leaking out. What I find more compelling is the illegals now crossing the border taunting the BP that Obama is going to let them go/which way to apply for amnesty, etc.!

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:35 PM

CoffeeLover:)

Embolden they are,thanks to Obama’s mixed messages,and what I find
perplexing is,why immigration isn’t framed around National Security
and possible terrorists,(with Mexican Coyotes)help sneaking in.

Its all about Illegals so-called Rights and Social Justice!

Nuts!

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

mbs on April 13, 2013 at 8:58 PM

And you forgot how the media pretty it up by calling abortion a “woman’s reproductive health issue.”

onlineanalyst on April 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM

Pretty sure that at this point we are living in “The Garden Of Allha”

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 9:49 PM

canopfor on April 13, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Thanks for that link, canopfor.
I really have had a battle over my anger, despair, etc over the past few days,
UNTIL
I was struck with His call for compassion and mercy toward those who’ve walked in delusion for so long… those I come in contact with regularly.
They CAN be reached, so walk in mercy and hope with them, and let Him take the reins of their hearts, from then on.
It was great to read that I’m not completely alone in that sentiment.

pambi on April 13, 2013 at 9:50 PM

RWM excellent work as usual but so hard to see those pics…RIP and God Bless those little innocent babies.
__________________________________________

Canopfor…exactly. I think I read 30% of those illegals are not Hispanic. How many Jihadis are coming across that border and setting up shop here?
Rights and Social Justice…..over National Security. Incredible short thinking let me get votes politicians.

CoffeeLover on April 13, 2013 at 9:52 PM

And you forgot how the media pretty it up by calling abortion a “woman’s reproductive health issue.”

onlineanalyst on April 13, 2013 at 9:48 PM

To the left..
A baby is a disease if it stifles the lifestyle of the mother..

At which time it is labeled ” health issue”..
After that..

The wrath of Government is there to protect life..
Guess which one?

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Maybe. But just like we need to shine a bright light on the Gosnells of the world, and the shameful media that refuses to cover them, we need to shine a bright light on all evil minded individuals whether or not the evil minded individuals will listen to good sense themselves. They do provide a positive in their own right by opening the eyes of those who haven’t yet seen.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 9:47 PM

I understand you, believe me I do.

My view is that Scripture is NOT meant for those who refuse God. It is meant only for those who seek Him. The rest are confounded by it and, hence, really want no part of it.

Let them be as they wish, then. Leave them alone, to their path as God intends.

And, the funny thing is, doing that — leaving liberals to themselves — is something they find offensive.

Go figure.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Something truly remarkable happened yesterday. After days and weeks of pushing by New Media and social media, the mainstream media has not only admitted that they should have covered the ongoing capital murder trial of abortion doctor Kermit Gosnell, they have promised to immediately remedy that mistake…

Next stop: maybe they will start digging Ito the president and hold him accountable.

Here’s a thought: Is it possible that the media relented on this because they feel they’re in control of the overall narrative on abortion, and so this is a negligible mea culpa to have on their record, a minor bone to throw to the masses calling for an accountable press?

I mean, remember how had they fought to bury Benghazi? The media was openly hostile when pressed on why it wasn’t being covered. They’re clearly picking their battles.

mintycrys on April 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Years ago, a great disappointment to me was the heave ho Matt Drudge got from FOX, supposedly because he wanted to show a famous pic of a tiny hand reaching from the womb on his most excellent FOX news program

Showing the humanity of the tiny creatures slaughtered by the likes of Gosnell is simply not done.

Obama was correct years ago, when he said a law he opposed that mandated medical care for born alive aborted babies would end up giving those babies the rights of humans (like himself) and therefore open up all kinds of problems.

They won’t show the Gosnell crime pics, because the victims are obviously babies. It shouldn’t matter. Killing such babies is not illegal. Just killing them without a license, or in unsanitary conditions etc.

If the press pretends they are not babies, they can pretend it is not murder.

Scroll down to Graphic photo: Baby Boy B with Slit Neck

entagor on April 13, 2013 at 9:54 PM

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Agree, turn them over to themselves.
It might just help save their souls.
-:)

pambi on April 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

I truly believe there comes a time to walk away from the evil that rejects God, to leave them to themselves.

In the physical world, the worst thing to do to a liberal is leave them to pay for their own demands. That’s why so many lids are freaking against their precious Obamacare.

One lib, when I said that, got pissy and dared say I’m ‘mean’.

So cute!

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:43 PM

That type of evil doesn’t go away by leaving it alone trust me, there is only one way to stop that evil, by it being shown an even worse evil.

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 9:53 PM

Agree, turn them over to themselves.
It might just help save their souls.
-:)

pambi on April 13, 2013 at 9:56 PM

Or to destroy their own souls. Their choice, in the end.

I believe that, on Judgment Day, the first question God will ask is, “I gave you power and authority even over Satan. What did you do with it?”

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM

That type of evil doesn’t go away by leaving it alone trust me, there is only one way to stop that evil, by it being shown an even worse evil.

MarshFox on April 13, 2013 at 9:57 PM

Then let evil fight evil? Leave them to themselves, as they wish and have chosen. There is always ground more fertile, people who hunger for the Lord.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:04 PM

After the last election, I’ve gone from being complete and total pro-life to I don’t give a sh!t anymore. The women/girls likely to choose killing their babies (with or without the father’s input, more likely without because the SOB ain’t there), are libs or at least those already hooked on government dependency and will teach the same to their offspring, no matter what.

Plus, these are the same people who care not about morality or ethics or just common decency to begin with.

So, regrettably, I now say let them kill their young. Fewer people that my children and grandchildren will have to pay for, and which also will decrease the lib/low info voters going forward, another major benefit.

Sadly, I’m now into letting my enemies kill themselves, but what better justice can there be?

TXUS on April 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Yet another one, this time in Michigan:
http://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/index.ssf/2013/01/muskegon_city_documents_detail.html

Improper disposal of syringes and needles.

Unsterilized medical equipment

Dumping of chemicals and other liquids down drains without proper authorization and approvals.

biohazard material and unsecured sharps throughout the building

multiple unsanitary medical instruments

blood on the floor and walls in multiple locations

uncovered buckets containing unknown fluids located in the operating room area

blood dripping from a sink p-trap in a room used by patients

multiple biohazard bags located on the floor and in closets

multiple unsecured containers containing used hypodermic needles

unsecured medications located throughout

All patient information was unsecured and scattered throughout the office portion of the business.

The ceiling tiles were rotten and water soaked due to a roof leak. There were buckets of water in multiple locations to catch the protruding water.

dried bloody handprints on the ultrasound machine and smears and blood splatters on the walls and floors throughout the business.

cptacek on April 13, 2013 at 10:08 PM

So, regrettably, I now say let them kill their young. Fewer people that my children and grandchildren will have to pay for, and which also will decrease the lib/low info voters going forward, another major benefit.

Sadly, I’m now into letting my enemies kill themselves, but what better justice can there be?

TXUS on April 13, 2013 at 10:06 PM

I understand your feelings. But when it comes to the murdered babies, it’s not about the liberals.

It’s about the babies.

We can’t stop that. I take some measure of comfort, whatever it’s worth, they are in Heaven with God.

My daughter in law just had her seventh miscarriage out of eight pregnancies. I grieve, to be sure.

But I — and my small family — truly believe we have a really big brood waiting to welcome us Home one day. ~S~

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Women will still have abortions regardless of the legality. The only difference is that they’ll die in greater numbers at the hands of men like Gosnell.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Well its the weekend so your pants are already off. Could it be that you are taking off your boots?

SparkPlug on April 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Women will still have abortions regardless of the legality. The only difference is that they’ll die in greater numbers at the hands of men like Gosnell.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I have 1 dozen hangers in my closet with your uterus’s name on them.

tom daschle concerned on April 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Women will still have abortions regardless of the legality. The only difference is that they’ll die in greater numbers at the hands of men like Gosnell.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Will they?

I’m of the view that if there’s smoke, there’s fire; where there is one, there is another.

Abortion is the least-regulated of things. That leaves a lot of room.

Defend your postulate, would you?

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I have 1 dozen hangers in my closet with your uterus’s name on them.

tom daschle concerned on April 13, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Excuse me? What was that for?

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Where was Obama..
To fly the Kermit Gosnell’s victims on Air-force Won…
back to D.C.

Electrongod on April 13, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Obama’s inhuman continuing silence and implicit depravity about this is absolutely deafening. As an atheist, I can only say that Obama has no empathy, no conscience. If I was Christian or Jew, I would say he has no soul.

VorDaj on April 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Obama’s inhuman continuing silence and implicit depravity about this is absolutely deafening. As an atheist, I can only say that Obama has no empathy, no conscience. If I was Christian or Jew, I would say he has no soul.

VorDaj on April 13, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Posting to you, as to you being an atheist, I would venture that Obama has no sense at all of humanity.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Will they?

I’m of the view that if there’s smoke, there’s fire; where there is one, there is another.

Abortion is the least-regulated of things. That leaves a lot of room.

Defend your postulate, would you?

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:17 PM

I’m saying that even if abortion, all abortions, were made illegal, there’ll be inhumane people like Gosnell that’ll set up shop behind closed doors and perform them on women who are desperate. And without any regulations in place, there’ll be an inevitable increase in the number of women who die at the hands of predators.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Women will still have abortions regardless of the legality. The only difference is that they’ll die in greater numbers at the hands of men like Gosnell.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

So? Should we legalize all things currently illegal because they still happen regardless of their illegality? Of course if we legalized murder you shouldn’t be surprised if the murder rate were to skyrocket. The inverse is true with abortion. A person who claims 1.2 million abortions a year would still occur after prohibition are lying liars talking out of their a$$.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

A person who claims 1.2 million abortions a year would still occur after prohibition are lying liars talking out of their a$$.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I never said 1.2 million abortions would still happen each year.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Posting to you, as to you being an atheist, I would venture that Obama has no sense at all of humanity.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM

He has many traits and characteristics of a misanthrope.

VorDaj on April 13, 2013 at 10:24 PM

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM

Except that by and large the abortion community has fought tooth and nail against any regulations or restrictions, because they see, and rightly so, that regulations will diminish the number of abortions (i.e., money lost).

Your statement is essentially the kind of thing that pro-abortionists said when they wanted abortion to be legal.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 10:25 PM

I’m saying that even if abortion, all abortions, were made illegal, there’ll be inhumane people like Gosnell that’ll set up shop behind closed doors and perform them on women who are desperate. And without any regulations in place, there’ll be an inevitable increase in the number of women who die at the hands of predators.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:21 PM

And I’m telling YOU that even though it’s legal, it’s still just as bad. I would venture it’s worse.

Want to know how many women died during the decade before abortion became legal?

It’s 35.

The number is higher a decade after it became legal.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM

And I’m telling YOU that even though it’s legal, it’s still just as bad. I would venture it’s worse.

Want to know how many women died during the decade before abortion became legal?

It’s 35.

The number is higher a decade after it became legal.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:26 PM

The number became higher because doctors were required by law to report the cause of death.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

The number became higher because doctors were required by law to report the cause of death.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

There is no requirement for states/areas to report abortions to the CDC.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM

Could it be that you are taking off your boots?

SparkPlug on April 13, 2013 at 10:13 PM

In Texas? Think again.

cozmo on April 13, 2013 at 10:29 PM

The number became higher because doctors were required by law to report the cause of death.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Now you’re just making crap up. I think it is much more likely that the number of deaths increased because the number of abortions increased dramatically. But that is just a guess on my part. I’m not going to state it as something authoritative because it sounds good in my head just like you did.

NotCoach on April 13, 2013 at 10:30 PM

There is no requirement for states/areas to report abortions to the CDC.

INC on April 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM

There is, however, a requirement in all states to report the cause of death that occurs during a medical procedure.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Women will still have abortions regardless of the legality. The only difference is that they’ll die in greater numbers at the hands of men like Gosnell.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I thought Roe vs Wade made it oh so safe for you to be able to murder your baby….and yet, the women are still dying. At least they are not alive to kill again.

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I understand your feelings. But when it comes to the murdered babies, it’s not about the liberals.

It’s about the babies.

We can’t stop that. I take some measure of comfort, whatever it’s worth, they are in Heaven with God.

My daughter in law just had her seventh miscarriage out of eight pregnancies. I grieve, to be sure.

But I — and my small family — truly believe we have a really big brood waiting to welcome us Home one day. ~S~

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Sorry for your son’s and daughter-in-law’s experience but you’re right, it’s about the babies. And the mothers who choose to kill them. And my babies, too, who’ll have to pay for these others if we keep their mommies from killing them (throughout their lives and live with the continuation of the Government-is-my-Daddy and Mommy) crap.

Let these people kill their young, in fact, I now encourage it, something I never did before. But, their babies, if we keep them from being killed off by their Mommies, are going to grow up, without a doubt, being a burden and threat to our kindred. So, let them die, as bad as that sounds. I am my brother’s keeper, until he or she crosses the line.

TXUS on April 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM

The number became higher because doctors were required by law to report the cause of death.

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:27 PM

You really want to try that lame tack? If infanticide wasn’t legal, there would be fewer deaths among women from ‘legal’ abortions. Gosnell is a case in point. And, if you think he’s an aberration, think again. If you dare.

If you think legal requirements are the end-all and be-all, how did Gosnell slip though your cracks?

You got nothin’.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

I thought Roe vs Wade made it oh so safe for you to be able to murder your baby….and yet, the women are still dying. At least they are not alive to kill again.

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM

And on that note…

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Follow this guy’s Twitter

@jdmullane 1h ago

@larosabob CNN called questioning truth of my empty courtroom photo. I said: go to Philly & see. He said he can’t, he has a “small staff.”

sentinelrules on April 13, 2013 at 10:38 PM

I thought Roe vs Wade made it oh so safe for you to be able to murder your baby….and yet, the women are still dying. At least they are not alive to kill again.

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 10:32 PM

And on that note…

SnarkVader on April 13, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Cat got your tongue?

RovesChins on April 13, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Although I rarely post or read the comments here anymore – life has simply become busy! – I’ve been a member since the very first day, back when Michelle Malkin was video logging regularly. Day one.

I’ve wandered away from this wonderful place … but it is still the place I come when a story happens that matters. When something actually important happens, it is always this site that I turn to for information. Always.

And stories like this one are why.

You’re doing God’s work, gentlemen (and now ladies). AP, if that’s not to you’re liking, suffice it to say that what you are doing here, with this story, is critical to the future of our society, morally and ethically and historically.

Like most of the stories that send me back here, it’s beyond politics.

You folks do good. Don’t forget it. Even when you piss me off, I remember.

Thank you. Never stop.

Professor Blather on April 13, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Let these people kill their young, in fact, I now encourage it, something I never did before. But, their babies, if we keep them from being killed off by their Mommies, are going to grow up, without a doubt, being a burden and threat to our kindred. So, let them die, as bad as that sounds. I am my brother’s keeper, until he or she crosses the line.

TXUS on April 13, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I cannot agree with you on that.

They’re innocent babies.

They may have a bad start, but we have no way to determine where God might lead.

The most horrid thing to happen to a liberal family is to have a child who grows to be a Conservative on spite of them.

Liam on April 13, 2013 at 10:42 PM

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