Democrats wonder hope: Is Progress KY a McConnell front group?

posted at 8:41 am on April 12, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

On one hand, Progress Kentucky has succeeded in ways most political-action committees rarely do.  In only four or five months of existence, they have driven the national news cycle not once but twice.  Unfortunately for Progress KY and Democrats in the state, they’ve been the scandal both times.  Their operatives turned out to be behind the racist tweets attacking Mitch McConnell’s wife Elaine Chao, and now they’ve allegedly managed to out-bumble the Watergate burglars in secretly recording a McConnell campaign meeting, in which they were most definitely not participants.

BuzzFeed calls Progress KY the “least effective liberal group” in the state, and that’s saying something:

It’s probably possible for a political group to be worse at accomplishing its core mission than Progress Kentucky is, but it’s difficult to imagine how.

In its short lifespan, the super PAC focused solely on defeating Sen. Mitch McConnell has instead helped the Republican incumbent deflect his low approval rating and conservative critics by subjecting McConnell to comically incompetent political attacks.

“They’ve managed to become McConnell’s favorite whipping boy,” said Jimmy Cauley, a longtime Kentucky Democratic strategist. “It’s kind of laughable because they didn’t exist four months ago. And yet they’ve gotten wrapped up in a string of four or five controversies.”

These guys didn’t even study Watergate long enough to grasp the concept of plausible deniability:

Progress Kentucky’s founder, Shawn Reilly, has denied responsibility for incident — which is now under investigation by the FBI — and has instead saddled the blame with Curtis Morrison, whom Reilly’s attorney calls a “former volunteer” for the PAC.

“Shawn is completely innocent of any criminal wrongdoing,” said Annie O’Connell, Reilly’s lawyer. “He is a witness not a suspect. He has fully cooperated with the with the United States Attorney’s office for the Western district of Kentucky since the recording became public.” …

But Morrison, a Louisville blogger and activist, is actually a former top official with the organization who resigned in March after Progress Kentucky’s last major scandal. BuzzFeed tracked him down, and over email he said he’s “not making a statement at this time.” He did not respond to multiple follow-up calls.

Kentucky Democrats insist that they have nothing to do with Progress KY, but that’s not going to make much difference when the election rolls around.  What the voters will remember will be the racist attacks on McConnell’s wife and the dirty-tricks campaign that produced the non-story that Democrats — at least until it began backfiring — embraced enthusiastically.

The epic faceplant has done what had once looked impossible — make Mitch McConnell a sympathetic figure.  That leads some to wonder whether Progress KY was a front group for McConnell all along — or rather, hope that it was:

The recording of the McConnell strategy session — whether or not it was illegal — is embarrassing, but not damaging enough to commit political seppuku over. And the tape was released after the focus of the conversation, Judd, had decided not to run. Then there’s the fact that the group, while great at generating McConnell-friendly headlines, appears either unable or uninterested in raising money.

“Last election cycle, in which $6 billion was spent by candidates and outside groups, Progress Kentucky raised $1,005,” says Salon‘s Seitz-Wald. “They spent $18. Yes, you read that right.”

But for the theory to be true, Kentucky Progress would have to be a pretty deep-cover operation. Local Kentucky politics site Page One is running a series on the “dark” past of Shawn Reilly, whom it describes as a “Democratic Party operative.” And Reilly is involved enough that he was a delegate to the 2012 Democratic National Convention. Curtis Morrison is a local journalist and blogger.

Unfortunately for Democrats, Progress Kentucky is probably closer to the Three Stooges than a stooge for McConnell. The idea that the group is secretly working for the GOP is “wishful thinking on the part of Democrats,” Scott Jennings, chairman of the pro-McConnell PAC Kentuckians for Strong Leadership, tells BuzzFeed. But he is sympathetic to the other party’s desire to move “as far away from these people as possible.” Progress Kentucky is made up of “morons,” and “I don’t know how to measure exactly how badly they’ve damaged Democratic chances in this race, but it is at least a bushel or a barrelful.”

And whoever Democrats nominate to run against McConnell will get to own this disaster, too. Maybe Alison Lundergan Grimes will need to rethink her 2014 plans with that in mind.


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So it’s the Republicans fault? Got it.

See, no matter what happens it is and will always be the repubs fault. Liberals and leftest can never do wrong. Not ever and if it seems like they did they were set up, taken out of context etc….

Dr. Frank Enstine on April 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM

And whoever Democrats nominate to run against McConnell will get to own this disaster, too. Maybe Alison Lundergan Grimes will need to rethink her 2014 plans with that in mind.

Nah, all the Democrat/media complex needs to do is run endless stories about how McConnell’s campaign staff is [gasp] strategizing against their opponent(who’s a woman no less).

Doughboy on April 12, 2013 at 8:49 AM

I thought Progress KY was a new brand of lube.

Mr. Arkadin on April 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Progress Kentucky will pull an ACORN and simply announce its demise with great fanfare while setting up shop under a different name.

Happy Nomad on April 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM

You won’t hear this on msdnc

cmsinaz on April 12, 2013 at 8:54 AM

The only reason that bartender at the Romney fundraiser didn’t face wiretapping charges is because one could argue Romney didn’t really have a reasonable expectation of privacy.

I say this inspired Cornholio, and he played a greater role in getting the clowns of Progress KY to try and catch McConnell on tape than we previously thought. Come to think of it, the bartender’s bug was also pretty sophisticated. I wonder how he afforded it on a bartender’s salary?

Sekhmet on April 12, 2013 at 9:00 AM

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Good Lt on April 12, 2013 at 9:01 AM

BuzzFeed calls Progress KY the “least effective liberal group” in the state, and that’s saying something:

heh! Reminds me of the RNC!

zing

ted c on April 12, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I thought Progress KY was a new brand of lube.

Mr. Arkadin on April 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

now THAT’s how you get a Friday started!!!

LOLzzzz

ted c on April 12, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Is there a Blame Bush in their future?

docflash on April 12, 2013 at 9:04 AM

The epic faceplant has done what had once looked impossible — make Mitch McConnell a sympathetic figure.

Heh heh heh!!! From a corpse to a “sympathetic figure” …. We need more groups like these….

ted c on April 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM

And Reilly is involved enough that he was a delegate to the 2012 Democratic National Convention.

Yeah, someone involved enough to be a delegate to the most marxist president’s reelection convention is going to help a Republican. There’s grasping at straws, then there’s grasping at air.

rbj on April 12, 2013 at 9:06 AM

“Last election cycle, in which $6 billion was spent by candidates and outside groups, Progress Kentucky raised $1,005,” says Salon‘s Seitz-Wald. “They spent $18. Yes, you read that right.”

stop....just stop…. it hurts…my sides!!

ted c on April 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM

I thought Progress KY was a new brand of lube.

Mr. Arkadin on April 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Hold your calls, we have a winner.

Mr. D on April 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Well of COURSE it’s a front group, everyone knows it’s impossible for a liberal to be either racist or criminal.

How far we’ve come from 1776.

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 9:07 AM

I started watching for this story to come up the first I saw ResistWeMuch post the link to Drudge after it broke. There is next to nothing. The event that led to the Nixon resignation started with a very small deal. I guess we really do not have a media. We simply have the information wing of the democrats and progressives in this country.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 9:10 AM

And Reilly is involved enough that he was a delegate to the 2012 Democratic National Convention.

He was also ‘involved enough’ to run as a ‘Progressive Democrat’ for the Kentucky State Senate.

Here is the press release from Reilly in December, 2011:

Louisville – Touting his record of leadership, coalition building and getting results to benefit our community; Shawn Reilly announced today his intention to run for State Senate and has filed a letter of intent with the Kentucky Registry of Election Finance.

A progressive Democrat focused on results…

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Umm.. Wow they are the Keystone Kops, aren’t they? If this was a McConnell ploy, it would be shocking because it would be a feat of electoral ingenuity that the Republican Party isn’t known for.

Illinidiva on April 12, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Yepper Hawkdriver

cmsinaz on April 12, 2013 at 9:33 AM

James Taranto weighs in:

So post-Watergate ‘reforms’ led to the creation of super PACs, which are now committing Watergate-like crimes. Brilliant.

Del Dolemonte on April 12, 2013 at 9:49 AM

It’s a trap conspiracy!

Admiral Akbar

mchristian on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Most Dems in DC and KY did NOT want Ashley Judd to run for Senate. They trashed her on and off the record for months. Many even said that she was ‘unstable.’

In the tape, McConnell and his advisers are only agreeing with what Dems were saying on and off the record.

Would you like some links of the Democrats that were criticising Judd for similar reasons in early February?

Probably not.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Follow the money.

The bugging was done by Progress KY…a progressive political group with connections to Soros.

The illicitly obtained information was published by Mother Jones, a Soros-owned magazine.

Progress KY denies wrong doing, says it simply “recorded” a conversation while an elevator door was open…

Mother Jones denies it knew the information was/may have been obtained by illegal means.

Who would gain, tremendously, with the GOP in total disarray?

Not Progress KY…the gang that couldn’t shoot straight.

Mother Jones? Not at all. They’ve got their niche market, and a non-existent GOP would mean they’d have to go back to real journalism, which was once their hallmark. That costs money. Being a mouthpiece for Soros is a money maker.

Soros?

If you guessed Dr. Evil…you win…but America loses.

coldwarrior on April 12, 2013 at 9:58 AM

TPM makes contact with Curtis Morrison, the ‘second activist’ in the Kentucky recording scandal. When asked by text about reports that colleague Shawn Reilly had provided the FBI with evidence to help “locate” him, Morrison replied “I have no statement, but thx for head’s up.”

These guys are hilarious.

danielreyes on April 12, 2013 at 9:59 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

So liberals were (rightfully) angry about a wiretapping that led to the fall of an American President, but has no trouble concentrating on the content of them doing to a republican rather than staying on topic and talking about the crime itself.

Every time I think you can’t get more pathetic.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Terrible, I know. If only McConnell could have dug up information that Judd once put a dog in a carrier on top of a car.

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

Yes, let’s not talk about the mental health of candidates. It’s not like Jesse Jackson, Jr, was in a mental hospital for months before the November election and had to resign afterward.

Let’s not talk about the mental health of (former) Congressman David Wu, who was also accused of (I don’t know the final disposition) of statutory rape.

Let’s not talk about the mental health of candidates because it’s not like George McGovern had to dump his running mate, Thomas Eagleton, who had undergone EST and had a mental breakdown requiring hospitalisation.

Let’s not talk about George Romney’s claim that he was ‘brainwashed’ because, like, you know, Democrats didn’t (rightly) make a big deal out of it.

I can go on, but let’s just not talk about the mental condition of people, who seek higher office. I mean, who cares if the people making decisions about our healthcare, economy, financial transactions, education, children, housing, foreign policy, etc, are complete whackjobs? What could POSSIBLY go wrong?

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Most Dems in DC and KY did NOT want Ashley Judd to run for Senate. They trashed her on and off the record for months. Many even said that she was ‘unstable.’

In the tape, McConnell and his advisers are only agreeing with what Dems were saying on and off the record.

Would you like some links of the Democrats that were criticising Judd for similar reasons in early February?

Probably not.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 9:57 AM

And for all that, you cannot refute my basic point.

I’ll spell it out in case you didn’t get the inference:
McConnell’s a complete hypocrite in complaining about his wife’s treatment while planning to trash Judd if she decided to run.

Save your “they were only agreeing with the Dems” red herrings. They don’t fly here.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM

McConnell’s a complete hypocrite in complaining about his wife’s treatment while planning to trash Judd if she decided to run.

Save your “they were only agreeing with the Dems” red herrings. They don’t fly here.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Elaine Chao was going to run for office?

I hadn’t heard that.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM

So liberals were (rightfully) angry about a wiretapping that led to the fall of an American President, but has no trouble concentrating on the content of them doing to a republican rather than staying on topic and talking about the crime itself.

Every time I think you can’t get more pathetic.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:03 AM

I’m running this through Google Translate. It’s still processing.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Weird that you can’t cite a potential candidate’s own words…VERBATIM…because it’s like mean or something.

In case you haven’t read the transcript, there was more to the session than what Judd wrote about her own mental health issues.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Elaine Chao was going to run for office?

I hadn’t heard that.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Cute, Sophie.

Look, I understand that, as the saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag. But is attacking a person for having bouts of depression, which McConnell team certainly had in mind, any better than attacking them for their race?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

I’m running this through Google Translate. It’s still processing.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Maybe a little unclear, professor. I had as hard a time getting the intent from your original comment too.

I’ll repost. Why aren’t you concerned about your side doing the actual wiretapping?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Cute, Sophie.

Look, I understand that, as the saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag. But is attacking a person for having bouts of depression, which McConnell team certainly had in mind, any better than attacking them for their race?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Or attacking a woman because her child has Down Syndrome.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Weird that you can’t cite a potential candidate’s own words…VERBATIM…because it’s like mean or something.

In case you haven’t read the transcript, there was more to the session than what Judd wrote about her own mental health issues.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Yeah, I missed the part where Judd broke into laughter about her condition.

What page was that on?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

Look, I understand that, as the saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag. But is attacking a person for having bouts of depression, which McConnell team (sic) certainly had in mind, any better than attacking them for their race?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

It’s very simple. Look at the picture of Palin taken five weeks before the birth of Trig and tell me if she looks three months pregnant for five.

She’s seven months pregnant in that picture.

Who are you going to believe, Palin or your lying eyes?

chumpThreads on June 27, 2011 at 5:57 PM

Your indignation is noted.

Did you understand this comment?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Maybe a little unclear, professor. I had as hard a time getting the intent from your original comment too.

I’ll repost. Why aren’t you concerned about your side doing the actual wiretapping?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:16 AM

If Progress KY has broken the law, then they should be prosecuted. I have no problem with that.

I have a problem with McConnell and his staff gleefully preparing to play the “emotionally unstable” card on Judd because she’s suffered from depression.

How cheap and cowardly can McConnell get?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Apparently, chumpy was at this meeting, since she knows exactly what was intended.

“Red herrings” don’t fly here? Where is here, exactly? Does the troll run this forum? Does the big-mouth liberal troll decide what the regulars at a conservative site may discuss? Didn’t think so.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Or attacking a woman because her child has Down Syndrome.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:17 AM

And who has made such an attack?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

And who has made such an attack?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Who hasn’t on your side?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:26 AM

Yeah, I missed the part where Judd broke into laughter about her condition.

What page was that on?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:18 AM

I would have laughed, too, at the meeting when told that Ashley Judd compared herself to St Francis of Assisi and talked about ‘Brother Donkey, Sister Bird!’

And…

When she said that ‘it is unconscionable to breed’ while there are so many starving children in the world.’

And, at the part she said…

‘To this day, a common vestige of male dominion over a woman’s reproductive status is her father ‘giving’ away her away to her husband at their wedding, and the ongoing practice of women giving up their last names in order to assume the name of their husband’s families, into which they have effectively been traded.’

And, when she said:

‘Throughout history, men have tried to control the means of reproduction, which means trying to control woman. This president is a modern day Attila the Hun.’

And, when she said (knowing how toxic both would be in Kentucky):

‘Patriarchal religions, of which Christianity is one, gives us a God that is like a man, a God presented and discussed exclusively in male imagery, which legitimizes and seals male power. It is the intention to dominate, even if the intention to dominate is nowhere visible.’

‘The era of coal plant is over, unacceptable.’

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM

What’s funny is that Palin has been given a complete pass on a story she told that reveals her as having put the safety of her child in jeopardy for reasons that make no sense to a reasonable person. Or she’s a liar.

Repeat, this is her story. Why doesn’t she clear it up and end the speculation?

chumpThreads on April 26, 2011 at 7:49 PM

Indignation further noted.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:28 AM

Look, I understand that, as the saying goes, politics ain’t beanbag. But is attacking a person for having bouts of depression, which McConnell team certainly had in mind, any better than attacking them for their race?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM

As the Washington Post noted, there was nothing said or done at McConnell’s strategy session that is not done at EVERY well-run campaign.

IOW, you’d be a FOOL not to discuss all op-research. The fact that it was discussed does not mean that it would have been used.

You don’t think McCain had sessions with his staff where the subject of Obama’s radical ties and Jeremiah Wright didn’t come up? Of course they did. McCain made the decision not to use any of it.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:30 AM

How cheap and cowardly can McConnell get?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Gee, I dunno.

I won’t comment any further on the issue on this thread. I will only say that if she does run, the question of Trig’s birth will be unavoidable. I hope she runs, if only for that reason.

Ok, I’m out of here.

chumpThreads on June 27, 2011 at 5:57 PM

I’m having a hard time “getting” your basic indignation, professor. I note it. I still don’t get it.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM

hawkdriver tried to give you some serious competition, but your post above won going away:

In Internet slang, a troll (pron.: /ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is someone who posts inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[

I expected better of you, Sophie.

hawkdriver…nah.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM

hawkdriver…nah.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM

How about you just answer one of our questions, professor? How is your commentary on the Plain’s any worse than what you’re indignant with McConnell over?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Congressman Keith Ellison on Michelle Bachmann: ‘Psycho talk.’

But, that’s diiiiiiiiiiiifffffffffffffferent!

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Palin’s …

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM

I expected better of you, Sophie.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:33 AM

He says…as he dons the armour of victimhood.

*eyeroll*

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM

How about you just answer one of our questions, professor? How is your commentary on the Plain’s any worse than what you’re indignant with McConnell over?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Dude, stop trolling!

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM

He says…as he dons the armour of victimhood.

*eyeroll*

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:40 AM

How am I the victim?

Your intent with all of those off-topic Judd quotes was to derail the thread, since refuting my OP was out of the question.

Why not just admit, “yeah, McConnell’s a hypocrite about this” and be done with it?

We can both agree that if the law was broken, somebody need to go to jail, yes?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Dude, stop trolling!

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Your comments about the Palin Family was “trolling”. I’m asking why you’d say something like that and then complain about your characterization of McConnell’s comments? (On a thread where the topic is your side illegally wiretapping)

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM

The projection is strong in this particular teenager.

Why isn’t she in school? Not that it would help.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 10:46 AM

Both Ashley and chumpy apparently have daddy issues.

No wonder they love 0bama so much.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 10:47 AM

Your intent with all of those off-topic Judd quotes was to derail the thread, since refuting my OP was out of the question.

Why not just admit, “yeah, McConnell’s a hypocrite about this” and be done with it?

We can both agree that if the law was broken, somebody need to go to jail, yes?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM

THEY DISCUSSED THOSE QUOTES DURING THE MEETING. How are they OFF-TOPIC?

How is McConnell a hypocrite?

Progress Kentucky made a racist comment about McConnell’s wife. As we are constantly reminded when Democrats get into trouble, ‘families should be off-limits.’

Elaine Chao WAS NOT and IS NOT running for office.

On the other hand, Ashley Judd WAS contemplating a run for office. SHE IS NOT OFF-LIMITS.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

How am I the victim?

One just needs to look at your libfreeordie comments.

Your intent with all of those off-topic Judd quotes was to derail the thread, since refuting my OP was out of the question.

You concentrating on the content of the taped conversation was sidetracking the thread’s chief point that the wire-tapping had even occurred.

Why not just admit, “yeah, McConnell’s a hypocrite about this” and be done with it?

How can you call anyone a hypocrite considering what you’ve said about the Palin’s and then acting like you’re indignant about McConnell? You said it’s not beanbag and seem to like the rules when it suits you here; what with being a Trig Truther and all. Does it bother you how that dialogue hurts the Palin Family?

We can both agree that if the law was broken, somebody need to go to jail, yes?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:45 AM

I’m satisfied. I hope a lot of your people go to jail. Mark the calendar.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 10:52 AM

I have a problem with McConnell and his staff gleefully preparing to play the “emotionally unstable” card on Judd because she’s suffered from depression. How cheap and cowardly can McConnell get? chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 10:23 AM

The truth is an absolute defense. If she didn’t want people to know she was a whack job, she shouldn’t have ever opened her mouth in public.

— On her decision not to have kids with her husband: “It’s unconscionable to breed, with the number of children who are starving to death in impoverished countries.”

– On fathers giving daughters away at weddings: “To this day, a common vestige of male dominion over a woman’s reproductive status is her father ‘giving’ away her away to her husband at their wedding, and the ongoing practice of women giving up their last names in order to assume the name of their husband’s families, into which they have effectively been traded.”

- On how Christianity “legitimizes” male power over women: “Patriarchal religions, of which Christianity is one, gives us a God that is like a man, a God presented and discussed exclusively in male imagery, which legitimizes and seals male power. It is the intention to dominate, even if the intention to dominate is nowhere visible.”

- On men: “Throughout history, men have tried to control the means of reproduction, which means trying to control woman. This president is a modern day Attila the Hun.”

Is knowing about these things wrong, or just repeating them? If someone who holds these views were running for the US Senate, wouldn’t it be irresponsible not to ensure that voters have such info?

Akzed on April 12, 2013 at 10:55 AM

http://minx.cc/?post=337877

Akzed on April 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM

On the other hand, Ashley Judd WAS contemplating a run for office. SHE IS NOT OFF-LIMITS.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

And it’s a safe bet, based on past behavior by other democrats, that had she any embarrassing information on him, she wouldn’t dream of keeping it to herself.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 10:56 AM

Remember when both Democrats AND Republicans said that McCain was UNSTABLE and chumpThreads not only failed to complain, but enjoyed it?

‘Every living soul on this planet has some highly-justified anger. Everyone. If you know anybody who was a P.O.W. for any time, they can be going on for years and all of a sudden something will happen that will trigger all those bad memories.’

- President Bill Clinton, Democrat, 5 July 2008

I wonder to which candidate he could have POSSIBLY been referring. Can you?

‘This just shows that McCain is mentally unstable and out of control and vindictive. If he is determined to go through that much trouble to attack a district committee chairman, what does that say about his ability to handle real political problems?’

- Bob Haney, Republican Arizona state committee chairman, 11th District

‘The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine.’ He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me.’

- Sen. Thad Cochran, Republican, MS

‘I think he is mentally unstable and not fit to be president.’

- Former Rep. John LeBoutillier, a New York Republican

‘His volatility borders in the area of being unstable. Before I let this guy put his finger on the button, I would have to give considerable pause.’

- Paul Johnson, Democrat, the former mayor of Phoenix

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Thomas Eagleton could not be reached for comment.

Del Dolemonte on April 12, 2013 at 11:10 AM

THEY DISCUSSED THOSE QUOTES DURING THE MEETING. How are they OFF-TOPIC?

How is McConnell a hypocrite?

Of course political strategists discuss ways of attacking the opponent, but there’s a line that has to be drawn. Progress KY clearly crossed the line in going after McConnell’s wife for her race and McConnell’s people clearly crossed the line in bringing up Judd’s depression issue.

I’ve already explained that McConnell is a hypocrite for being (rightfully) outraged about the one and acquiescing to the other.

Progress Kentucky made a racist comment about McConnell’s wife. As we are constantly reminded when Democrats get into trouble, ‘families should be off-limits.’

Elaine Chao WAS NOT and IS NOT running for office.

On the other hand, Ashley Judd WAS contemplating a run for office. SHE IS NOT OFF-LIMITS.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 10:51 AM

No, technically Judd was not off limits.

It’s just reasonable to expect the incumbent to have some limits, even if they aren’t imposed on him.

As long as McConnell outrage was “legal”, I guess the hypocrisy doesn’t count.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Progress Kentucky is made up of “morons,”

I do believe we are seeing the results from the home schooled vs. the government schooled.

lea on April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:06 AM

You simply fail to understand my point, don’t you Sophie?

Because if you understood it, you wouldn’t have wasted time digging up all those irrelevant quotes.

Ok, I’ve said all I can say on this topic.

Another time, another thread folks!

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

‘Look, I love John McCain. He is one of my dearest friends, but at the same time, he is also dangerously unbalanced. I mean, let’s be frank, John McCain — and again this is a man I would take a bullet for — he’s bad at his job and mentally unstable.’

- Jason Sudeikis said in his SNL impersonation of Biden’s veep debate performance

CurrentTV: McCain Is Unstable

John McCain Is Too Unstable To Lead

Daily Kos: ‘Unstable McCain should be medicated, not President’

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:17 AM

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

No, I get you: It’s OK when Democrats call people unstable. It’s OK when Republicans call people unstable…as long as they are Republicans.

McCain’s aides thought Palin might be mentally unstable

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:19 AM

Ok, I’ve said all I can say on this topic.

Another time, another thread folks!

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

I can translate. RWM handed me my ass again and I need to run like a scalded dog.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 11:19 AM

You simply fail to understand my point, don’t you Sophie?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 11:15 AM

BTW, you’ve never asked nor have you received my permission to address me by my first name.

You aren’t one of my ‘friends’ here.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM

BTW chumpthreads is libfreeordie.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

BTW chumpthreads is libfreeordie.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

…is Armin Tazmanian is nonpartisan is Dave Drywall is urban elitist is….

All part of the same leftist hive-mind.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM

All part of the same leftist hive-mind.

CurtZHP on April 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM

And part of the same hypocrisy.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 11:48 AM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

Are you trying to tell us that being Chinese is a mental illness that makes it difficult to think clearly and to function in stressful situations?

Gelsomina on April 12, 2013 at 12:06 PM

WHY did George W. mmmBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH EVER START “Progress Kentucky”?!!!!!

williamg on April 12, 2013 at 12:22 PM

So McConnell is (rightfully) angry about remarks made against his wife’s ethnicity, but has no trouble plotting to attack a potential opponent because she has suffered from depression.

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I’ve lived for much of my life with two people who suffered from depression. It does affect your capacity for many things. Your race does not affect your capacity; so your attempt to equate the two is wrong.

KW64 on April 12, 2013 at 12:48 PM

So, is this the storyline for next season on the TV show “Justified”?

CC Senor on April 12, 2013 at 1:24 PM

BTW, you’ve never asked nor have you received my permission to address me by my first name.

Sheesh! Whatever, Resist We Much.

You aren’t one of my ‘friends’ here.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 11:20 AM

You have friends?

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

chumpThreads on April 12, 2013 at 2:13 PM

I sure do.

Resist We Much on April 12, 2013 at 2:22 PM

BTW chumpthreads is libfreeordie.

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 11:23 AM

Plankton are freer and smarter than either.

Schadenfreude on April 12, 2013 at 2:57 PM

On Fox News there is this ad from the progressive group:

The ad on McConnell starts by saying the senator opposes background checks at gun shows. It then cuts to footage of a 2011 Al Qaeda video in which American-born spokesman Adam Gadahn talks about how easy it supposedly is to get a weapon in America.

“You can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check, most likely without having to show an identification card. So what are you waiting for?” he asks.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/04/12/mcconnell-campaign-blasts-liberal-group-ad-invoking-al-qaeda/#ixzz2QHH8EHlA

The funny thing is, isn’t that what happened in Fast and Furious?

Fleuries on April 12, 2013 at 3:09 PM

McConnell had better prosecute this as hard as he can, because he’ll get no help from the media. But my guess is he’ll flounder, waiting for the FBI to “complete their investigation”, once again confirming the view that he does not have the leadership skills to stand up for himself.

It matters less that the opposition broke the law, but rather what he proposes to do about it.

virgo on April 13, 2013 at 3:15 PM