Quotes of the day

posted at 10:11 pm on April 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) tonight posted the bill text of The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act that he and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) introduced yesterday…

Purpose: To protect Second Amendment rights, ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process.

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The underlying bill that will be considered by the Senate is S. 649, the so-called “Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013”. This bill would criminalize the private transfer of firearms by law-abiding citizens, requiring friends, neighbors and many family members to get government permission to exercise a fundamental right or face prosecution. It is expected that a number of amendments will be offered to S. 649, including a ban on commonly and lawfully-owned firearms and magazines and language to criminalize the private transfer of firearms through an expansion of background checks. This includes the misguided “compromise” proposal drafted by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV), Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY).

NRA’s position on these proposals is unmistakably clear—we are unequivocally opposed to S. 649, the amendments mentioned above, and any other anti-gun amendments. As we have noted previously, expanding background checks at gun shows or elsewhere will not reduce violent crime or keep our kids safe in their schools. Given the importance of these issues, votes on all anti-gun amendments or proposals will be considered in NRA’s future candidate evaluations.

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The White House says Thursday’s motion to proceed on gun violence legislation in the Senate is all evidence needed that President Obama’s strategy of consistently engaging the American people on gun control after Newtown has worked

“The president has no doubt whatsoever that the voices of the Newtown families and the voices of Americans across the country that were raised this week as part of an effort to urge the Senate to move forward and not block procedurally progress on this legislation had a positive effect,” he said. “This is an important milestone. but it is an early milestone. And there is no question that challenges will continue to be placed in the way of making progress on passing common sense legislation to reduce gun violence. But we are obviously very pleased with today’s vote.”…

“The president has said all along, and you heard him on Monday, that Congress will do the right thing if the American people speak up,” Carney said. “If they raise their voices, if they make their views known. As he said then, it’s not about him, it’s about the American people and what the right, common-sense thing is to do when it comes to taking action to reduce gun violence.”

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“With the vote we take today, we are turning the page. Against the NRA’s dominance, we are turning the page to do what is right by these families and by the American people,” Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said at a news conference with the family members.

Turning to the families, Schumer said Newtown was the reason the Senate acted. “The only reason we are turning the page is because of you. You spoke to Congress. You spoke to the American people. We looked in your eyes, we saw your loss. We saw the hole where your child, your sibling, your parent used to be.”

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GOP leadership is currently weighing four options for handling the gun bill, according to sources close to leadership.

The first is to send a Senate-passed bill to the House Judiciary Committee for a markup — the panel would very likely take its time and gut the bill. Second is to ask that committee to draft its own background checks bill, which would almost certainly create a product that hews closely to the NRA’s specifications. House leadership is likely to give the committee wide berth on whether gun control laws need to be bolstered.

Boehner could also completely ignore the Senate bill — an unlikely outcome, aides say. Or he could move it straight to the House floor — that would happen only if the situation gets too politically hot for House Republicans. So far, that is not likely to happen: Just a handful of Republicans, most prominently Rep. Peter King of New York, have been supportive of Toomey and Manchin’s compromise.

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Wednesday morning on “Starting Point,” anchors John Berman and Christine Roman hosted Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), one of the two senators responsible for the compromise legislation on background checks…

Berman: Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia, you’ve been working around the clock for a compromise deal. I think you have a very busy few weeks ahead of you still.

Manchin: We appreciate your support, too, this is very, very important.

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Vice President Joe Biden gave an interview to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on gun control and heaped praise on host Joe Scarborough saying that he and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg deserved rewards for changing the gun debate in America.

“Hey Joe, thank you. You have changed the debate in America. The two guys who deserve an award, if anything gets done around here, is you and Michael Bloomberg” Biden said.

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Via Twitchy.

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Via Mediaite.


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Amending the Constitution has become easy these days..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:13 PM

buh bye, Pat

james23 on April 11, 2013 at 10:14 PM

“With the vote we take today, we are turning the page. Against the NRA’s dominance,…

You mean you are ripping up a page..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

QOTDCOTT in effect until SWalker is reinstated!!

Scrumpy on April 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

posted the bill text of The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act

We are so screwed. This sounds like something they would pass in the old USSR.

RickB on April 11, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Turning to the families, Schumer said Newtown was the reason the Senate acted. “The only reason we are turning the page is because of you. You spoke to Congress. You spoke to the American people. We looked in your eyes, we saw your loss. We saw the hole where your child, your sibling, your parent used to be.”

These liberal jackwads can’t even use corpses as props correctly. “Where your parent used to be”? Some of those kindergartners of Newtown were parents?

These people are stupid. Morons. Retarded. Everyone in American society should be scared and offended that such dolts control our highest political offices.

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Scrumpy on April 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

John the Libertarian on April 11, 2013 at 10:18 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I was thinking about something this morning (that was my first mistake, I guess)…

We keep hearing about how in order for people to have access to things like abortion and birth control, the government has to pay for it.

Doesn’t that also mean that the government has to provide firearms and ammunition in order for people to have access to guns? If the government does not give me free weapons, they are infringing my 2nd Amendment rights.

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:20 PM

If Chuck Schumer were on fire, I’d pull out marshmallows to roast.

SouthernGent on April 11, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Some of those kindergartners of Newtown were parents?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:17 PM

In today’s world..
That wouldn’t surprise me..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:21 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

How many clips is that, according to you Democrats?

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:21 PM

There are three senators we can trust – Lee, Paul and Cruz. That’s it.

I fear for this country. Between this and the Gosnell trial. I weep for this country.

gophergirl on April 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process.

So all that needs to be done is to enter the data into the system that will determine who “should” be allowed to have a gun. Who decides what this data is composed of, and enters this data? Once it is entered and someone gets flagged, how do they fight it if the information in the data base is erroneous? People have had incredibly difficult times correcting faulty information concerning their credit or billing history based on what is puked out of a “data base” system.

Brilliant.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

You could be taken out with one..
There are nine left..

Why aren’t you saying 0 or less?

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Maybe he doesn’t want to come back Scrumpy. Do you know?

If I knew for sure, I would petition.

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

And what happens when some guy kills a few people with a 7-round 1911 pistol, then what? Ban them of course. Then a shooter uses a 6-shot revolver, ban them too. Then a 2-round Derringer, banned. And finally the musket that you claim is all the 2nd Amendment really protects, a guy will kill someone with it and it too will disappear.

That’s why gun owners are so contemptuous of people like you, your logic stream never gets past the drooling stage. We know what you’re after because history has provided endless examples of your ilk. You won’t be happy until the nation is disarmed.

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 PM

The names of these bills are so perfectly Orwellian.

29Victor on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

you can’t prevent all gun killings as long as guns are available. but by limiting clips, you reduce the body count.

ie jared loughner was only stopped when he had to reload. if he only had 10 bullets per clip, victims 11 and 12 would still be alive.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Obama wants assault weapon and high capacity magazine ban. He ends up with a small expansion of background checks. Media declares it victory for Obama and defeat for NRA.

Mark1971 on April 11, 2013 at 10:25 PM

These liberal jackwads can’t even use corpses as props correctly. “Where your parent used to be”? Some of those kindergartners of Newtown were parents?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:17 PM

A half dozen adults who worked at the school were also killed.

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Urban underclass peasants are toothless, my dear. Greedy Democrats in Washington biting down on every gold coin that comes their way are toothless. You are most likely toothless. This bill, my sweet child, is not toothless and is an insult.

Punchenko on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

What about the criminals?..Do they limit their clipsto 10 rounds??..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Then of course we have tales such as this:

Missouri Secretly Shares Entire CCW List With Feds Against State Law

Missouri State Senator Kurt Schaefer confirmed today that the Missouri Highway Department did in fact share confidential CCW lists with the federal government in violation of Missouri law.

The Missouri State Highway Patrol has twice turned over the entire list of Missouri concealed weapon permit holders to federal authorities, most recently in January, Sen. Kurt Schaefer said Wednesday.

Why the hell would ANY gun-owning American trust the criminal retards currently in office, seriously why?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:23 PM

no, im willing to accept gun deaths so long as guns exist. but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

something so strange i had to post it.

http://now.msn.com/pad-gardner-florida-man-wants-to-be-a-human-maxi-pad

gerrym51 on April 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM

*Facepalm*

In my defense no one ever talks about them, it’s always “for the children”.

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

NY Screws Up, Man Loses Guns, County Clerk Says The Problem Is The SAFE Act and the Flawed Mental Health Laws

‘I think that first and foremost, it stems from a flawed law that was passed so quickly without forethought on how something would be implemented. Certainly, I am disappointed on the fact that we were given information from State Police that this was an individual that we needed to act immediately on.

Previously we received correspondence from the State Police that a pistol permit holder in our County had a mental health condition that made them a potential harm to themselves or others, a provision in the NY SAFE Act that requires suspension of their pistol permit license.

When the State Police called to tell us they made a mistake and had the wrong person…it became clear that the State did not do their job here, and now we all look foolish.

Until the mental health provisions are fixed, these mistakes will continue to happen.’

- Erie County Clerk Chris Jacobs, Erie, New York

But, don’t worry. Something similar will not happen to you. The Feds and the states PINKY PROMISE!

Resist We Much on April 11, 2013 at 10:29 PM

if he only had 10 bullets per clip, victims 11 and 12 would still be alive.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

And if limited to 10 rounds, the maniac would practice fast reloading.
A practiced shooter can replace a magazine in about 1 second.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:30 PM

QOTDCOTT in effect until SWalker is reinstated!!

Scrumpy on April 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Isn’t going to happen.

DarkCurrent on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

something so strange i had to post it.

http://now.msn.com/pad-gardner-florida-man-wants-to-be-a-human-maxi-pad

gerrym51 on April 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM

How would…
Why would…

What a freaking loon.

gophergirl on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Because it is a ruse..:)

PS..*clink*..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Read the bill people. It is essentially a nothing burger. Also places some restrictions on Holder and Sebelius gun-grabbing tactics. Yes, the bill is a waste of money, but doesn’t change much at all. Also, it punishes states that don’t have a process for removing erroneous information from the database. Am I missing something?

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

no, im willing to accept gun deaths so long as guns exist. but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Would Banning Big Magazines and ‘Assault’ Weapons Cut Down on Gun Violence? Most Cops Say No.

Resist We Much on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

you can’t prevent all gun killings as long as guns are available. but by limiting clips, you reduce the body count.

ie jared loughner was only stopped when he had to reload. if he only had 10 bullets per clip, victims 11 and 12 would still be alive.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Loughner only killed 6 people.

And if he was limited to 10 round magazines, maybe he wouldn’t have dropped the full one when he tried to reload.

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

no, im willing to accept gun deaths so long as guns exist. but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

See, you did it again, “clip” size? Do you know what the difference is between a clip and a magazine?

We’ve been through this before and you never answered: What’s the floor for gun deaths with you?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

you can’t prevent all gun killings as long as guns are available. but by limiting clips, you reduce the body count.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Your slip is showing, sweetie.

ardenenoch on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Roger Wicker’s Facebook page has 1800 comments of ranting taxpayers and gun owners. There is going to be a price to pay for having dinner at the White House and then forgetting who you represent.

d1carter on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

you can’t prevent all gun killings as long as guns are available. but by limiting clips, you reduce the body count.

ie jared loughner was only stopped when he had to reload. if he only had 10 bullets per clip, victims 11 and 12 would still be alive.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

Is a slaughter now defined as 11 or more?

As Obama said..
“Lets make it harder to slaughter our children..”

It looks like you are on to something..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Whats the acceptable number of rounds for you?

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

DarkCurrent on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

I was on the thread when Ed explained today. You are right. Ain’t happening.

KCB on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

DarkCurrent on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Good evening..How are things doing on a Friday in the Far East??..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

See, you did it again, “clip” size? Do you know what the difference is between a clip and a magazine?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

No.

Resist We Much on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Am I missing something?

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

The duplicitous nature of demorats? Just a guess.

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

PS..*clink*..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

*clink*

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

So afte the next mass shooting and there will be another, should we just ban guns altogether..? Is that what we are talking about?

d1carter on April 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

I am one of his subjects, I am younger then he is, I will micturate on his grave wherever it can be found.

CaveBear on April 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Coulter Tears Into Dems On Hannity: Gun Proposals Will ‘Lead To More Dead Kids,’ They’re Exploiting Newtown Families

Ann Coulter sat down with Sean Hannity tonight to react to the Senate finally taking action on guns by tearing into the Democrats for manipulating the gun control issue and using Newtown parents as political props. Coulter said that Republicans need to push back against Democrats and say that their “proposals are going to lead to more dead kids.”

Hannity brought up how a few Republican senators wanted to be able to read the exact language of the bill before voting on it. Coulter found it odd that a bill “everyone’s talking about” wouldn’t be made available to the public in full. Hannity argued that not a single proposal following mass shootings in the past few months would do anything to prevent future shootings, suggesting that retired military individuals ought to be place at every school. (link)

Are you listening Mr. Boehner?

Rovin on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

See, you did it again, “clip” size? Do you know what the difference is between a clip and a magazine?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

LoLz..Give up..It is a waste of time..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

If I were a sea turtle I would be the Michelle Obama of sea turtles. Discuss.

Punchenko on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

We’ve been through this before and you never answered: What’s the floor for gun deaths with you?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

for me ideally its 0. but thats not realistic, with the 2nd amendment around. so I would like the floor to be as low as possible. I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

So afte the next mass shooting and there will be another, should we just ban guns altogether..? Is that what we are talking about?

d1carter on April 11, 2013 at 10:34 PM

Only in Gun Free Zones..

That should do it..

Full circle.

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Also places some restrictions on Holder and Sebelius gun-grabbing tactics.

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Which will be ignored. And when that happens, “What cha gonna do about it chumps?”

We have got to start to realize that laws don’t apply to them. They are only enforced selectively. On us.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM

And that silly Nürnberger Gesetze in 1935 were a surprise…after all, that silly mustachioed clown and those grown men waltzing around in shorts and funny hats had no chance of pulling off that previous election…seriously.

And, besides, all those Jewish Germans who had fought in WWI….and were wearers of the Iron Cross…how could their government turn on them so suddenly? They were citizens, too.

So…this gun control nonsense…not gonna change anything…because this is America and we all know that tyranny can never find fertile ground here, no, sir…not a chance of that happening. The free press would make sure of that, informing the citizens and making sure any wannabe tyrant was exposed long long before they had a chance to do any damage…because this is the land of the free and the home of the brave.

We are watching the methodical process of setting up America’s Nürnberger Gesetze…only this time, it isn’t the Jews who will be singled out. It will be anyone who believes that the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land…and believes in the free exercise of Constitutional Rights.

coldwarrior on April 11, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Dude, I shop at that Safeway. What you say is BS. He caught people off guard on a Saturday morning. What’s a standard glock? 15,16+1? You tell me who expects that? Not a bad area of town, either. A liberal area of town. Well off.

Like Bishop said. Even with a 1911. in fact, gabby would have been closed casket dead had it been a .45 or even a .357mag.

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

I am waiting for the report of a “slaughter” by a person that observed the NY’s 7 round magazine law..

That should make the news..right?

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Well…i’m glad that the bright bulbs at least put in due process rights so that you can appeal a denial…now there’s a compromise /s

and, honestly i hope they get some smart lawyers to look at this. I mean there’s a diff between having the state fork over mental health records and mental health adjudications

and where is the state getting all these mental health records…from barrycare…or is that where a family counseling center gets pissed and puts a flag in NICS

imagine that….some bozo MSW has access to NICS…i thought it was law enforcement…but then i’m probably wrong.

oh, yeah, and please Pat..do tell if you throw up a little in your mouth when you write that the congress doesn’t want any GUN REGISTRY but puts in everything into NICS. I mean you have to keep the trace of who runs the checks on the database don’t you..i mean for due process, chain of evidence reasons

but i’m not a lawyer…so wtf do i know

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r keller on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Connections between the filthy pig George Soros and Mother Jones magazine: $1.1 Million of Soros Money Tied To Magazine That Released McConnell Tape

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2013 at 10:38 PM

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

See, you did it again, “clip” size? Do you know what the difference is between a clip and a magazine?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Could be worse. He could be parroting Harry Reid’s line about the 100-clip magazine jamming in Aurora.

malclave on April 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Good evening..How are things doing on a Friday in the Far East??..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Howdy DS. A bright sunny morning here. Hope you’re well.

DarkCurrent on April 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:24 PM

You are stupid. You do know that jokerboy had a 100 round double drum mag that jammed because they are pieces of sh!t don’t you?

You also know that it takes just a second or two to swap mags (quicker with practice), right?

Limiting mag size does nothing buttwipe because pyscos like batboy and lanza and the like ain’t going to play by the rules, psycos never do, but you knew that as well right?

Murderers don’t apply for CCW’s.
They don’t fill out the required forms for a background check.
They don’t care about any new laws because the don’t care about the old ones either,

But you know all of these things and still you spout your bullsh!t, getalife had more integrity.

D-fusit on April 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM

for me ideally its 0. but thats not realistic, with the 2nd amendment around. so I would like the floor to be as low as possible. I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Which only showcases yet again your ignorance. You’ve chosen an arbitrary number without a shred of logic behind it, it’s just a random number and you can’t explain WHY you chose it.

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:40 PM

People. The bill is pretty short and aside from gun show loophole/internet changes (and wasting money on useless studies and commissions) it places more limits on gun grabbers than gun owners. Don’t most people get background checks at gun shows anyway, especially if the seller is a licensed dealer? The bill even excludes sellers that are selling from their personal collection. Instead of hyperventilating, House should sneak in some extra gun comity language, remove the “Mass Violence” commission and move on.

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

See, you did it again, “clip” size? Do you know what the difference is between a clip and a magazine?

Bishop on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 PM

LoLz..Give up..It is a waste of time..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I guess nonparmesan is okay with those “non-lethal skeet shotguns” though.

The democratics’ favorite Nazi stooge George Soros needs to hire some better quality trolls.

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Dire…

KCB on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

It’s “what you don’t see” and what most other liberal progs can’t fathom is, when your fantasy of eliminating gun ownership comes to fruition, your precious 1st amendment will also become moot.

Rovin on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

“Sen Harry Reid Praises John McCain, Republicans Who Voted for Cloture “

That’s pretty much all you need to know about this…

… Should make for a nice campaign commercial if he decides to run again.

Seven Percent Solution on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

QOTDCOTT in effect until SWalker is reinstated!!

Scrumpy on April 11, 2013 at 10:15 PM

How did SWalker get banned? Can turn your back for a moment around here.

M240H on April 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM

It’s “what you don’t see” and what most other liberal progs can’t fathom is, when your fantasy of eliminating gun ownership comes to fruition, your precious 1st amendment will also become moot.

Rovin on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Oh PLEASE. As much as conservatives are willing or even able to take up arms against the feds, the 1st Amendment might as well be standing alone in a bus stop in Detroit at midnight.

MelonCollie on April 11, 2013 at 10:44 PM

the bill, like many said, is toothless. they needed to limit magazine capacity to 10 or less bullets

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Because those that respect the law will go right along eh?

I suggest you watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksZqzPWm7VQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHAPDFxlTvE

You’re suggestion is just more feel good BS.

CW on April 11, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Amend it to strip out all of the other language, add 50 state open carry + DC and eliminate all gun-free zones. There, gun safety bill.

crrr6 on April 11, 2013 at 10:45 PM

It’s “what you don’t see” and what most other liberal progs can’t fathom is, when your fantasy of eliminating gun ownership comes to fruition, your precious 1st amendment will also become moot.

Rovin on April 11, 2013 at 10:42

It’s already happening if you’re a Conservative… Try giving a speech at a University and be Conservative…. They cancel you….This gun “background” check bill is a bunch of hidden new rules just like the obama care mess…

sandee on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

How did SWalker get banned? Can turn your back for a moment around here.

M240H on April 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Wait a tick..

I saw him post earlier today????!!
I think?..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

How did SWalker get banned? Can turn your back for a moment around here.

M240H on April 11, 2013 at 10:43 PM

I’d like to know myself. He was one of the posters who liked to make idiotic N@zi comparisons like the trolls blubber about “Christian Sharia”, but that’s not been grounds for so much as a warning ever since I joined HA. So it had to have been…much juicier.

MelonCollie on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Instead of hyperventilating, House should sneak in some extra gun comity language, remove the “Mass Violence” commission and move on.

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

So there is no mention of check for “transfers”?

All of this misses the point and once again we fall for the debate to be framed by the left.

FIRST make a case that any of this would have ANY effect on the actions of madmen.
THEN start the debate of infringing on rights.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Non, I need more than 10 because they have more than ten.

Comprende?

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

no, im willing to accept gun deaths so long as guns exist. but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

*facepalm*..

for me ideally its 0. but thats not realistic, with the 2nd amendment around. so I would like the floor to be as low as possible. I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

*double facepalm*..

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Non, I need more than 10 because they have more than ten.

Comprende?

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed more than 10?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Howdy DS. A bright sunny morning here. Hope you’re well.

DarkCurrent on April 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

It is all good..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

KCB on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Good evening..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:50 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed more than 10?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Trap question..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:51 PM

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:19 PM

What about the criminals?..Do they limit their clipsto 10 rounds??..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:26 PM

That’s a very good question? One I doubt our teenaged friend has thought about.

CurtZHP on April 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

lolz..I hear you..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

no, im willing to accept gun deaths so long as guns exist. but limiting clip size will decrease the body count of potential future mass shootings while not infringing on the rights of gun owners.

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:27 PM

*facepalm*..

for me ideally its 0. but thats not realistic, with the 2nd amendment around. so I would like the floor to be as low as possible. I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

*double facepalm*..

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Meanwhile, 3,288 abortion deaths A DAY in the USA. Move on, nothing to see here.

Did you hear 20 kids in Connecticut were killed back in December?

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

Non, I need more than 10 because they have more than ten.

Comprende?

wolly4321 on April 11, 2013 at 10:46 PM

“They”
It left assumes that if there is a need for a gun..
That we are still living in the Old West..
Where it is just one-on-one on the dusty street.
Settling their differencing as the patrons watched…

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

MeanWhile,back at Ted Nugents..*Kiss My Glock* Ranch……

‘I Don’t Trust the Government’: Ted Nugent Tells CNN What He Thinks of Senate’s Gun Bill (and Recommends Eric Holder Be Arrested)
Apr. 11, 2013 9:33pm
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“I just don’t trust the government. I don’t trust the government that claims it’s going to reduce the budget while they increase the budget,” he added.

Throwing a curve ball, Nugent then asked Burnett if she wants to reduce gun trafficking. Naturally, Burnett answered yes. “Then you would support my recommendation that we arrest Eric Holder,” Nugent said.

“Well, no, I don’t support that,” Burnett replied.

“Well, if you want to stop gun trafficking why don’t we go after the guy trafficking guns? That would be Eric Holder,” Nugent shot back, clearly referring to Operation Fast and Furious where 2,000 guns were allowed to walk across the U.S.-Mexico border.

Before the interview ended, Nugent made sure to tell Burnett, “I love you madly.”

Watch the always entertaining Ted Nugent via CNN/Mediaite below:
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http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/11/i-dont-trust-government-ted-nugent-tells-cnn-what-he-thinks-of-senates-gun-bill-and-recommends-eric-holder-be-arrested/

canopfor on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip
nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I see no reason why a woman would have any issue with a national abortion registry/1 abortion limit. Do you really need a license to kill more than one baby?

crrr6 on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

CurtZHP on April 11, 2013 at 10:52 PM

They will ignore that question all day long..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed more than 10?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Silly tactic.

Limit of 10?….I take 3 guns to my murder scene.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Why do you folks have Fire Insurance? How many of you have actually needed it?

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2013 at 10:55 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed more than 10?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

There was a woman in the new not too long ago that had a forced entry..
She wasn’t good with the gun but unloaded many rounds onto the perpetrator..

He survived because she wasn’t very good with the gun..
But knew how to pull the trigger..
Luckily for her and her kids..
She had many rounds..

Electrongod on April 11, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I see no reason why a woman would have any issue with a national abortion registry/1 abortion limit. Do you really need a license to kill more than one baby?

crrr6 on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Excellent..Are you the same crr6 from a couple of years ago??..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I see no reason why a woman would have any issue with a national abortion registry/1 abortion limit. Do you really need a license to kill more than one baby?

crrr6 on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Great idea. Lets try to pass the bill and then work out the details.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Silly tactic.

Limit of 10?….I take 3 guns to my murder scene.

Mimzey on April 11, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Seriously, if I was stuck in a nutball state with a magazine-count limit, I would upgrade to the biggest caliber I could handle. If the government is going to limit the size of the magazine, make them count.

slickwillie2001 on April 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

People. The bill is pretty short and aside from gun show loophole/internet changes (and wasting money on useless studies and commissions) it places more limits on gun grabbers than gun owners. Don’t most people get background checks at gun shows anyway, especially if the seller is a licensed dealer? The bill even excludes sellers that are selling from their personal collection. Instead of hyperventilating, House should sneak in some extra gun comity language, remove the “Mass Violence” commission and move on.

andy85719 on April 11, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Today’s exceptions are tomorrow’s ‘evil loopholes.’

Resist We Much on April 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

canopfor on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Nice link..:)

PS..Good evening friend..:)

Dire Straits on April 11, 2013 at 10:57 PM

I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Do you have any experience, training or other qualifications that inform this opinion?

novaculus on April 11, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I see no reason why a gunowner would have any issue with a 10round clip nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I see no reason why a woman would have any issue with a national abortion registry/1 abortion limit. Do you really need a license to kill more than one baby?

crrr6 on April 11, 2013 at 10:53 PM

What did you do with crrr6, this is not right! #imposter

Rovin on April 11, 2013 at 10:59 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed to speak for more than 10 seconds?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed due process?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed freedom of the press?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

can you provide an actual experience where you’ve needed protection from cruel and unusual punishment?

nonpartisan on April 11, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Ad infinitum.

nobar on April 11, 2013 at 10:59 PM

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