Quotes of the day

posted at 10:11 pm on April 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

U.S. Senator Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) tonight posted the bill text of The Public Safety And Second Amendment Rights Protection Act that he and Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) introduced yesterday…

Purpose: To protect Second Amendment rights, ensure that all individuals who should be prohibited from buying a firearm are listed in the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, and provide a responsible and consistent background check process.

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The underlying bill that will be considered by the Senate is S. 649, the so-called “Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013”. This bill would criminalize the private transfer of firearms by law-abiding citizens, requiring friends, neighbors and many family members to get government permission to exercise a fundamental right or face prosecution. It is expected that a number of amendments will be offered to S. 649, including a ban on commonly and lawfully-owned firearms and magazines and language to criminalize the private transfer of firearms through an expansion of background checks. This includes the misguided “compromise” proposal drafted by Senators Joe Manchin (D-WV), Pat Toomey (R-PA) and Chuck Schumer (D-NY).

NRA’s position on these proposals is unmistakably clear—we are unequivocally opposed to S. 649, the amendments mentioned above, and any other anti-gun amendments. As we have noted previously, expanding background checks at gun shows or elsewhere will not reduce violent crime or keep our kids safe in their schools. Given the importance of these issues, votes on all anti-gun amendments or proposals will be considered in NRA’s future candidate evaluations.

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The White House says Thursday’s motion to proceed on gun violence legislation in the Senate is all evidence needed that President Obama’s strategy of consistently engaging the American people on gun control after Newtown has worked

“The president has no doubt whatsoever that the voices of the Newtown families and the voices of Americans across the country that were raised this week as part of an effort to urge the Senate to move forward and not block procedurally progress on this legislation had a positive effect,” he said. “This is an important milestone. but it is an early milestone. And there is no question that challenges will continue to be placed in the way of making progress on passing common sense legislation to reduce gun violence. But we are obviously very pleased with today’s vote.”…

“The president has said all along, and you heard him on Monday, that Congress will do the right thing if the American people speak up,” Carney said. “If they raise their voices, if they make their views known. As he said then, it’s not about him, it’s about the American people and what the right, common-sense thing is to do when it comes to taking action to reduce gun violence.”

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“With the vote we take today, we are turning the page. Against the NRA’s dominance, we are turning the page to do what is right by these families and by the American people,” Sen. Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) said at a news conference with the family members.

Turning to the families, Schumer said Newtown was the reason the Senate acted. “The only reason we are turning the page is because of you. You spoke to Congress. You spoke to the American people. We looked in your eyes, we saw your loss. We saw the hole where your child, your sibling, your parent used to be.”

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GOP leadership is currently weighing four options for handling the gun bill, according to sources close to leadership.

The first is to send a Senate-passed bill to the House Judiciary Committee for a markup — the panel would very likely take its time and gut the bill. Second is to ask that committee to draft its own background checks bill, which would almost certainly create a product that hews closely to the NRA’s specifications. House leadership is likely to give the committee wide berth on whether gun control laws need to be bolstered.

Boehner could also completely ignore the Senate bill — an unlikely outcome, aides say. Or he could move it straight to the House floor — that would happen only if the situation gets too politically hot for House Republicans. So far, that is not likely to happen: Just a handful of Republicans, most prominently Rep. Peter King of New York, have been supportive of Toomey and Manchin’s compromise.

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Wednesday morning on “Starting Point,” anchors John Berman and Christine Roman hosted Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV), one of the two senators responsible for the compromise legislation on background checks…

Berman: Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia, you’ve been working around the clock for a compromise deal. I think you have a very busy few weeks ahead of you still.

Manchin: We appreciate your support, too, this is very, very important.

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Vice President Joe Biden gave an interview to MSNBC’s Morning Joe on gun control and heaped praise on host Joe Scarborough saying that he and NYC Mayor Michael Bloomberg deserved rewards for changing the gun debate in America.

“Hey Joe, thank you. You have changed the debate in America. The two guys who deserve an award, if anything gets done around here, is you and Michael Bloomberg” Biden said.

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Via Twitchy.

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Via Mediaite.


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Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 7:36 AM

heh

Happy Nomad on April 12, 2013 at 7:43 AM

same situation, he was telling joe and his minions that they were factually wrong about assault weapons but those idiots wouldn’t see it…

cmsinaz on April 12, 2013 at 7:54 AM

Stop lying! There is no way our benevolent government would ever do anything to its people!

MarshFox on April 12, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Said the Russian German Chinese Cambodian Vietnamese Ugandan Iraqi Iranian Burmese Zimbabwean Syrian American.

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Stop lying! There is no way our benevolent government would ever do anything to its people! Everybody on the news and blogosphere told me so!

MarshFox on April 12, 2013 at 7:50 AM

So how’s the weather there in Pyongyang? Clear skies for missile shooting on this, the first anniversary of Dear Leader’s reign?

Happy Nomad on April 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 7:43 AM

MarshFox on April 12, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I wish you two would stop misleading people. Out government isn’t totalitarian, and Obama cares about people. You are both just gun toting racist mouth breathers. I’m tired of you getting in our way.

I’ve reported you.

Axe on April 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 7:55 AM

+1

cmsinaz on April 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Do I get this right?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

It’s hard to say. There are so many redirections in the bill it’s very hard to decipher.

darwin on April 12, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 7:43 AM

Yes, big plans. Reading up on pre-WWII history and the forced annexation of Austria…

indypat on April 12, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Do I get this right? You will not be able to travel across a state line with a loaded gun. Concealed carry or not. Regardless of whether that state accepts your concealed carry permit. All guns must be locked away, unloaded and separate from the passenger compartment?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

I’ve read it twice and I think you’re right.

darwin on April 12, 2013 at 8:00 AM

And at the same time we are distracted with assaults on the Second Amendment, are you wondering what “the other hand” is doing? Should be.

indypat on April 12, 2013 at 8:04 AM

Do I get this right? You will not be able to travel across a state line with a loaded gun. Concealed carry or not. Regardless of whether that state accepts your concealed carry permit. All guns must be locked away, unloaded and separate from the passenger compartment?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

You’ll just have to ask your car-jacker to exercise some patience while you go about your business retrieving and then reloading your weapon.

Did you see a problem with this part JT?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Do I get this right? You will not be able to travel across a state line with a loaded gun. Concealed carry or not. Regardless of whether that state accepts your concealed carry permit. All guns must be locked away, unloaded and separate from the passenger compartment?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

When the new Government state-border crossing stations are erected this will be a non issue, so settle down.

Just show the guard your papers and travel permit and everything will be fine. Man, you homophobes are so paranoid.

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 8:13 AM

Ed Morrissey on April 11, 2013 at 10:32 AM

This is all I know. Thanks Dire.
KCB on April 11, 2013 at 11:45 PM

Ed is totally right.

I am very glad that HotAir takes this stand. They are a classy site and have every right to remove comments from/ban people who call for violence against public officials. How is this even controversial? It’s like the most obvious no-brainer.

bluegill on April 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

I usually do not respond to your posts, finding them intellectually deficient for one thing. However, this time I will make an exception.

The “most obvious no-brainer” as you put it, would be for Hot Air to ban you and a few others who continuously post nonsense.

Amjean on April 12, 2013 at 8:18 AM

Ed is totally right.

I am very glad that HotAir takes this stand. They are a classy site and have every right to remove comments from/ban people who call for violence against public officials. How is this even controversial? It’s like the most obvious no-brainer.

bluegill on April 11, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Something must be in the coffee I had this morning – I find myself
breaking my “no response” rule to you a second time!

How can this site be classy if YOU are posting on it?

Amjean on April 12, 2013 at 8:21 AM

I just read the text of the bill and in fairness to Toomey and Manchin, it does have some good stuff in it. It strengthened FOPA, allows intrastate handgun purchases and exempts familial transfers and those that aren’t for-profit (for want of a better way to put it). I was frankly expecting something much worse than this. I wonder if the House will add a CCW reciprocity provision.

macnorfin on April 12, 2013 at 8:25 AM

You’ll just have to ask your car-jacker to exercise some patience while you go about your business retrieving and then reloading your weapon.

Did you see a problem with this part JT?

hawkdriver on April 12, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Well.. at least they could insert an amendment making it a crime if a criminal/rapist/murder doesn’t wait until you retrieve and load your weapon.

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 8:32 AM

TRAITORS!

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED!

TX-96 on April 12, 2013 at 8:34 AM

I just read the text of the bill and in fairness to Toomey and Manchin, it does have some good stuff in it. It strengthened FOPA, allows intrastate handgun purchases and exempts familial transfers and those that aren’t for-profit (for want of a better way to put it). I was frankly expecting something much worse than this. I wonder if the House will add a CCW reciprocity provision.

macnorfin on April 12, 2013 at 8:25 AM

You’re thanking these traitors for not watering down our civil rights more than they are. That’s like the Jews thanking the Nazis for the train ride.

Happy Nomad on April 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Oh lookie! They’re going to create a commission to study gun violence.

SEC. 142. NATIONAL COMMISSION ON MASS VIOLENCE.
(a) Establishment of Commission.-There is established a commission to be known as the National Commission on Mass Violence (in this subtitle referred to as the “Commission”) to study the availability and nature of firearms, including the means of acquiring firearms, issues relating to mental health, and all positive and negative impacts of the availability and nature of firearms on incidents of mass violence or in preventing mass violence.
(b) Membership.-
(1) APPOINTMENTS.-The Commission shall be composed of 12 members, of whom-
(A) 6 members of the Commission shall be appointed by the Majority Leader of the Senate, in consultation with the Democratic leadership of the House of Representatives, 1 of whom shall serve as Chairman of the Commission; and
(B) 6 members of the Commission shall be appointed by the Speaker of the House of Representatives, in consultation with the Republican leadership of the Senate, 1 of whom shall serve as Vice Chairman of the Commission.
(2) PERSONS ELIGIBLE.-
(A) IN GENERAL.-The members appointed to the Commission shall include-
(i) well-known and respected individuals among their peers in their respective fields of expertise; and
(ii) not less than 1 non-elected individual from each of the following categories, who has expertise in the category, by both experience and training:
(I) Firearms.
(II) Mental health.
(III) School safety.
(IV) Mass media.

SEC. 141. SHORT TITLE.
This subtitle may be cited as the “National Commission on Mass Violence Act of 2013″.
SEC. 142. NATIONAL COMMISSION ON MASS VIOLENCE.

SEC. 143. DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION.
(a) Study.-
(1) IN GENERAL.-It shall be the duty of the Commission to conduct a comprehensive factual study of incidents of mass violence, including incidents of mass violence not involving firearms, in the context of the many acts of senseless mass violence that occur in the United States each year, in order to determine the root causes of such mass violence.

And lookie here! The Chairman will have dictatorial powers over the committee. Am I wrong on this?

(1) IN GENERAL.-The Chairman of the Commission may, without regard to the civil service laws and regulations, appoint and terminate an executive director and such other additional employees as may be necessary to enable the Commission to perform its duties.

And like the man says… what could possibly go wrong with a government committee charged with finding who is to blame for violence in America?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Do I get this right? You will not be able to travel across a state line with a loaded gun. Concealed carry or not. Regardless of whether that state accepts your concealed carry permit. All guns must be locked away, unloaded and separate from the passenger compartment?

JellyToast on April 12, 2013 at 7:52 AM

When the new Government state-border crossing stations are erected this will be a non issue, so settle down.

Just show the guard your papers and travel permit and everything will be fine. Man, you homophobes are so paranoid.

Bishop on April 12, 2013 at 8:13 AM

But, if it’s a reciprocal carry state, once I am actually across the line l can lock and load, right? How wide is a state line? 1 ft? 10 ft? Don’t want to put any border children in danger or anything… /s

ROCnPhilly on April 12, 2013 at 10:22 AM


I just read the text of the bill and in fairness to Toomey and Manchin, it does have some good stuff in it. It strengthened FOPA, allows intrastate handgun purchases and exempts familial transfers and those that aren’t for-profit (for want of a better way to put it). I was frankly expecting something much worse than this. I wonder if the House will add a CCW reciprocity provision.

macnorfin on April 12, 2013 at 8:25 AM

You’re thanking these traitors for not watering down our civil rights more than they are. That’s like the Jews thanking the Nazis for the train ride.

Happy Nomad on April 12, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Good stuff! Amazing how many naive, ignorant folks walking among us! Trust government….I’m sure they wouldn’t do anything to curtail our rights! Honestly!

tomshup on April 12, 2013 at 10:41 AM

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