Video: GOP rep rips Obama’s budget for … proposing mild entitlement reform?

posted at 6:41 pm on April 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via TPM, I … can’t help sharing Liz Mair’s feeling here:

Justin Green elaborates:

Real talk? Those seniors created this mess. They were born into the most affluent and productive society on Earth, they had their fun in the 1960s and 70s, and they didn’t have enough kids to leave a strong work force to support them. But no, we certainly can’t talk about limiting benefits. That’d be unfair and shocking!

I’m not really the austerity type. We don’t need big cuts now. But if conservatives are to ever get serious about preventing the natural growth of government spending (aging society, remember) from ballooning into a real issue, it won’t be as the party that defends the old against the young.

So hey, President Obama, not a huge fan of your budget, but I’m certainly not going to attack you for requesting moderate entitlement reform. In fact, bravo!

Paul Ryan, while not endorsing Obama’s chained CPI proposal to reform Social Security (in part because it’s too weak), felt obliged to say, “I think the president should be commended for leaning into an issue that is not popular,” yet here’s Greg Walden unloading on The One ahead of 2014 in a GOP version of Mediscaring. (It’s no coincidence that Walden’s head of the NRCC.) I know, I know — this tactic worked before. But the longer it’s used by one side, the more difficult it is for the other side to safely propose even the mildest entitlement rollbacks. What Walden’s doing here is telling O that it’s in his political interest to stay far, far away from reforming Social Security and Medicare, and telling the public that entitlements aren’t so urgent a crisis that they can’t be used as a partisan bludgeon. What point of budgetary despair do we need to reach before the impulse to build bipartisan support for reform overwhelms the impulse to grab a few extra votes through Mediscaring? We don’t have much time.

Update: The Club for Growth to the rescue:

“Greg Walden doesn’t seriously oppose even the most modest of reforms to social security, right?” said Club for Growth President Chris Chocola. “With nearly $100 trillion in unfunded liabilities, the last thing Republicans should attack the Democrats for is for making the most minor reforms to our entitlement programs. If anything, President Obama nibbles around the edges of entitlement reform and doesn’t do anything to put entitlements on a permanently sustainable path.”

“Greg Walden ought to think about clarifying his remarks on chained CPI, and think about clarifying soon. I’m sure his constituents would like to know his opinion,” added Chocola.


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PappyD61 on April 10, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Facepalm…

KCB on April 10, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Pfffttt Entitlements, come on, like… You weren’t expecting us to do anything meaningful about that right? This is not the hill to die on. Immigration isn’t either. Time for Amnesty baby!!! Neither is health care. Obamacare is law of the land!!! Re-election though, that’s the hill to die on fo’ sure! -RNC/Country Club Establishment Class

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 10, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Justin Green elaborates:

Real talk? Those seniors created this mess. They were born into the most affluent and productive society on Earth, they had their fun in the 1960s and 70s, and they didn’t have enough kids to leave a strong work force to support them.

Hey Justin Greene –F-U! I did not have much fun in the 60s like many other veterans. I contributed over half a million dollars (pv) to social security. I has three children, all hard working professionals. You have insulted me and many of my generation with your putrid generalizations.

Old Country Boy on April 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

No wonder why we can’t have anything nice.

rbj on April 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Seriously what’s the new playbook ?? Run to Obama’s LEFT? Heck in 2016 we may run that MSNBC communist nut Harris-Perry…And the RINOs will all be circling the wagons but so what about principles, she’s the MOST ELECTABLE!!!!

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

It’s important that we help the GOP regain power at any cost though. #winning

Kataklysmic on April 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Idiot.

Not to mention is one perfect example as to why I don’t give to political parties nor associations…

…individual politicians only, if ever….

ladyingray on April 10, 2013 at 7:03 PM

It’s important that we help the GOP regain power at any cost though. #winning

Kataklysmic on April 10, 2013 at 6:56 PM

They will sell their souls and lose anyway.

VorDaj on April 10, 2013 at 7:03 PM

All the arguments against the Federal Reserve’s money printing to facilitate our government’s overspending have been countered by the types like Krugman with “look at how low our inflation is, see printing/digitizing money doesn’t have negative consequences!’

And republicans want to facilitate more of this with lowering the cpi standard even more? If obama had to contend with an inflation measurement as measured when Carter was in office, he would not have been re-elected. The malaise we are in would not be sugar coated with rigged statistics. (see what they did to CPI in the nineties to take out food and energy.) THIS IS BS! And it will just go to screw over the prudent in the middle class who saves their money and won’t be able to find a good interest rate. Get your head out of your behinds, republicans.

Chubbs65 on April 10, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Really, am I really supposed to keep voting Republican because if I go third party it is a sure win for the DEMS? Looks to me like I’ll gets Dems for all practical purposes regardless of if it is an R or D following their name on the ballot. Screw that.

flyfishingdad on April 10, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Is it too late to become a Whig?

KS Rex on April 10, 2013 at 7:08 PM

SHADDUP!!!!!!

Resist We Much on April 10, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Ugh. Hard for the GOP to remain credible on entitlement reform when they attack Obama for offering a tiny step in that direction.

Moron.

changer1701 on April 10, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Is it too late to become a Whig?

KS Rex on April 10, 2013 at 7:08 PM

The party could always be resurrected. The name’s not a sure fire attraction though.

hawkeye54 on April 10, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Seriously what’s the new playbook ?? Run to Obama’s LEFT?

Apparently Obama isn’t so liberal after all. He’s proposing social security reform without any significant deal from Boehner on the table. If the GOP is serious about deep entitlement reform, Obama is your man. You can’t say the same about Reid and many other Dems. Hopefully this opportunity won’t be wasted. In any case, the true colors the GOP will soon become clear.

Bernie Sanders and others on the left are going ballistic also, but I don’t think anyone saw this attack coming from the right.

bayam on April 10, 2013 at 7:13 PM

What state is he from, and where is his district?

INC on April 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM

I’ll just add this to my list of “Why I’m NOT a Republican” reasons.

Maybe I can wedge it in there somewhere between Toomey’s fold on firearm background checks and the latest immigration “reform” backroom deal.

Socratease on April 10, 2013 at 7:14 PM

Absolutely embarrassing. May as well be done with the GOP.

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 10, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Apparently Obama isn’t so liberal after all

Tell a big lie, Herr Goebbels.

tom daschle concerned on April 10, 2013 at 7:17 PM

Right on Waldo!

Obama is already working on killing old people via Obamacare.

This merely supplements his push to ‘carousel’ us so he can INVEST more in the children (and solar panels).

I say….demogogue it all the way to a Senate majority in 2014.

Then we can get down to serious and moderate reduction of the rate of growth of entitlements.

KirknBurker on April 10, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Shocked by the discussions of reducing inflationary payments to Social Security beneficiaries? Well, TIME TO WAKE UP! For DECADES, we’ve sat there while they gave that money away on Social Security expansion into dependent and disability benefits, knowing all the time we were all living longer on the benefits than the system was designed for. And we kept ELECTING the people who did this.
THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT! On our watch. Do we older folks take the hit, or do we simply crush the following generations under unrecoverable debt? Those are our ONLY choices; deal with it!

michaelo on April 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM

We find ourselves in a sad state of affairs. I mean, politics, like everything else around us, is based on optics and emotion. Hey whatever feels good and looks good – do it. El Presidente wants to “show” he is doing something meaningless on entitlement reform which really amounts to nothing and both the left and the right are up in arms. Shees – we are $16 trillion in debt and this budget does nothing to address the deficit.

All these political moves are for optics and emotion. We can’t count on any politicians – Repubs or Dimwits to provide solutions to real world problems. And we just keep on bending over and taking it dry.

We don’t even get a cursory, hey you may feel a little discomfort. We just constantly get the rug pulled out from under us from leaders we thought represented us. We are screwed – pun intended.

rsherwd65 on April 10, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Last straw number 643

motionview on April 10, 2013 at 7:32 PM

Hey Justin Greene –F-U!

Old Country Boy on April 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Agree 100%. My Mom raised three kids, for part of the time as a single mother, through no fault of her own, and when it was hardly fashionable. Most of that generation worked hard, and contributed mightily to the post WWII miracle that was the U.S. economy. Justin Greene needs to shut his pie hole.

Mr. Arkadin on April 10, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Seriously what’s the new playbook ?? Run to Obama’s LEFT? Heck in 2016 we may run that MSNBC communist nut Harris-Perry…And the RINOs will all be circling the wagons but so what about principles, she’s the MOST ELECTABLE!!!!

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 10, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Up to this point, we right-wingers have been told that we need to vote GOP no matter what because the Democrats are even more leftist and destructive. Greg Walden had better be one hell of an aberration, because if he isn’t, we’ll be told that we have to vote GOP because the Democrats are too right-wing-socon for the country in 2016 at the rate that things are going.

OK, maybe not, but having the ever-more-moderate GOP suddenly running to Obama’s left is a little shocking.

Aitch748 on April 10, 2013 at 7:43 PM

Shocked by the discussions of reducing inflationary payments to Social Security beneficiaries? Well, TIME TO WAKE UP! For DECADES, we’ve sat there while they gave that money away on Social Security expansion into dependent and disability benefits, knowing all the time we were all living longer on the benefits than the system was designed for. And we kept ELECTING the people who did this.
THE MONEY HAS BEEN SPENT! On our watch. Do we older folks take the hit, or do we simply crush the following generations under unrecoverable debt? Those are our ONLY choices; deal with it!

michaelo on April 10, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Thank you for that, but my generation (Gen X) knows we’re going to get the brunt of it, and I think most of us have pretty much resigned ourselves to it. I don’t know a soul in my age group who thinks they’re going to collect SS or Medicare, or who thinks we’ll get to retire as our parents are doing now. I’d rather get slammed than throw my mother under the bus, or see my daughter’s generation get hit.

Laura on April 10, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Why do I suspect that Obama’s proposals to “reform” entitlements involves severe means testing of “wealthy” seniors.

Doing this turns them into pure socialist wealth redistribution programs. They were originally sold to voters as “everyone pays in and everyone get benefits from” programs.

So if people who pay in may now not qualify for benefits these programs become socialist soak the “rich” redistribution schemes. Which is what the socialists would have liked them to be from the beginning. It took many decades but Mission Accomplished.

Forward, comrades!

farsighted on April 10, 2013 at 7:54 PM

What a joke of an organization

WisCon on April 10, 2013 at 8:22 PM

Seriously, bro?

cdog0613 on April 10, 2013 at 8:38 PM

BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

just priceless!

#Obamaproposedweopposed will be the catch line for 2014/2016..

Are you guys really that stupid? Can we do mental health ck before qualifying to run for office? /

lol..just don’t know how to say yes. I wonder some days who is the real threat to America.

Can.I.be.in.the.middle on April 10, 2013 at 9:51 PM

I say….demogogue it all the way to a Senate majority in 2014.
Then we can get down to serious and moderate reduction of the rate of growth of entitlements.

KirknBurker on April 10, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Yes, I’m sure after the GOP takes back the Senate with mediscare, the first thing they’ll get to work on is entitlement reform.

To put it somewhat bluntly, you are the problem here.

RINO in Name Only on April 11, 2013 at 3:24 AM

There won’t be one word against the 1300 Federal entitlement agencies. I guess we are not suppose to know about these.

mixplix on April 11, 2013 at 2:09 PM