Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on April 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

The Senate will hold the first key procedural vote on a bill to curb gun violence Thursday as more than a half-dozen Republicans announced that they will join with Democrats to stop any attempt to block popular legislation drafted in response to a deadly shooting at a Connecticut elementary school…

Senate procedural rules require Reid to secure at least 60 votes to move ahead with the legislation. Republican support to proceed doesn’t guarantee final passage of the bill — just that the Senate can actually begin formal debate. Getting at least 51 senators to support a final bill will prove difficult, as the politics of the issue are especially tricky for several Senate Democrats seeking reelection in 2014 in rural and Midwestern states…

Thus far, at least eight GOP senators — John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — have said they will not join in a filibuster being planned by a handful of the party’s more conservative senators…

In a sign of how important Republican support would be for ensuring final passage of any legislation, at least two Democrats facing difficult reelection fights in 2014 — Max Baucus (Mont.) and Mark Pryor (Ark.) — said they might break with their party in opposition to the bill.

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Several conservative Democrats and centrist Republicans have said they wouldn’t support Mr. Schumer’s proposal to broadly expand background checks, but are open to considering a bipartisan compromise if one is reached.

“If there’s a right way to limit access to guns for those who are violent or those who have mental health issues, then I think we should proceed,” and bring the bill to the floor, Mr. Heller said in a brief interview.

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Sen. Joe Manchin says he is on the verge a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for guns sales, an agreement that could lead to the biggest change in U.S. gun laws in nearly 20 years.

Manchin, a West Virginia Democrat, has been meeting with conservative GOP Sen. Pat Toomey (Pa.) over the last week to try to forge a deal on background checks…

“We’re getting there. We’re really getting there,” Manchin said. “Tomorrow we hope to be at the point where we can finalize everything.”…

Toomey is Democrats’ last hope of reaching a compromise gun deal including background checks with record-keeping of most gun sales, a provision that gun groups and many conservatives fiercely oppose but has broad public support. Democrats hoped that if they lured one conservative ally, than others — along with gun-friendly Democrats — would follow.

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President Obama has been calling Republican and Democratic senators on Tuesday to discuss the gun-control vote, a White House official said.

Obama is expected to reach out to between half a dozen to a dozen senators in all, the official said…

As part of the lobbying effort, Obama is telling senators that gun-control legislation “deserves a vote,” the official said. The president is expected to reiterate his message in recent days that Congress has an obligation to the victims of the school shooting in Newtown, Conn., to consider new restrictions on guns.

Speaking to reporters on Tuesday, White House press secretary Jay Carney said it would be “appalling” if some Republicans filibustered legislation supported by a majority of Americans.

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The effort to filibuster consideration of the legislation has been led by the conservative flank of the Senate Republican conference, spearheaded by Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas.

The group appeared to be recalibrating its message on Tuesday. Lee said the effort wasn’t about blocking the bill, but simply slowing down the process.

“By objecting to the motion to proceed, we guarantee that the Senate and the American people have at least three additional days to assess and evaluate exactly how this particular bill will affect the rights of law-abiding citizens and whether it will have any significant impact on crime,” Lee said in a statement. “The president again is trying to rush legislation through Congress because he knows that as Americans begin to find out what is in the bill, they will oppose it.”

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We’ve been trapped in this Wonderland of spin before. In February, opponents of defense nominee Chuck Hagel promised to filibuster his nomination. Ted Cruz wrote a letter; they signed onto it. They had the votes to delay Hagel with one filibuster, but over the next congressional recess, as damaging Hagel intel failed to emerge, the 41-senator squad fell apart. The hardcore Hagel foes revealed how weak they were with another letter, asking the president to withdraw the nomination. That only got 14 signatures. You either have 41, or you don’t have a filibuster. The White House won.

So the Senate lurched on to the gun bill—and conservatives tried the exact same strategy. The White House’s gun bill push has never been about a must-have provision. Like the 2009 push for health care reform or the 2010 Dodd–Frank offensive, it’s been about getting something done and letting the Senate Democrats figure out the “something.” If the final gun bill looks like the compromise being put together by Pennsylvania Republican Sen. Pat Toomey and West Virginia Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, well, sure, fine. Obama’s new tribute to gun violence victims isn’t “they deserve an assault weapons ban.” It’s “they deserve a vote.” How better to prove that, and to get the discussion away from the details that were weakening the background checks push, then another fight with the Senate conservatives?

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“It’s a fascinating battle in which both sides have different goals,” said former Democratic presidential candidate and Vermont Gov. Howard Dean, who boasts of several NRA endorsements during his political career. “The NRA is clearly succeeding in cranking up their base and expanding it. Their game is as much about keeping themselves in business as it is about public policy.”

As for Obama, “He is winning the hearts and minds of the American people and hopefully moving real legislation,” Dean said. “The president comes out as a winner either way because if the Republicans kill it, he can use it as an issue in 2014 to help Democrats win the House.”

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“What an embarrassing thing to say,” Biden said of the stated intent of 13 senators to prevent a vote on new background check legislation.

“Imagine what they’re saying, gentlemen and ladies, in other capitals around the world today.”…

“The climax of this tragedy could be that we’re not even going to get a vote?” he added. “Imagine how this makes us look.”

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Via Newsbusters.

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Via Mediaite.

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We couldn’t eat the cake, but we could watch them eat cake tonight on Sequester Soul at our White House…

d1carter on April 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM

…where is Bmore ?

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM

The climax of this tragedy is there is not one single proposal being made by the Senate that would prevent another Newtown.

Spineless Senate Republicans would not DREAM of providing enabling legislation for the NRA’s plan.

PolAgnostic on April 9, 2013 at 10:45 PM

“What an embarrassing thing to say,” Biden said

…Biden knows!…HE has a PHD!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:45 PM

KCB

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Toomey is Democrats’ last hope of reaching a compromise gun deal including background checks with record-keeping of most gun sales, a provision that gun groups and many conservatives fiercely oppose but has broad public support.

So much bullshiite in one small snippet.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

jackie

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

…Scrumpy

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

RWM

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Dean said. “The president comes out as a winner either way because if the Republicans kill it, he can use it as an issue in 2014 to Yaaaaaaaaargh!”

Fenris on April 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM

B9

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM

…twerp

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM

I received this email from the Senate Conservatives Fund Update:

A vote to bring Harry Reid’s gun control bill to the Senate the floor is a vote against the 2nd Amendment.

And a vote against the filibuster led by Rand Paul (R-KY), Mike Lee (R-UT), Ted Cruz (R-TX), and Marco Rubio (R-FL) is a betrayal of our principles.

SCF is doing everything it can to win this important battle. In fact, we launched a national radio and television campaign yesterday to collect 1 million petitions urging the Senate to defend the 2nd Amendment. Please call 1-800-605-1755 to add your name to the petition.

Continued on next comment

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Jackalope

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

EG.

Electrongod on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

…bluefox!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

…Cindy…dammit!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM

As for Obama, “He is winning the hearts and minds of the American people and hopefully moving real legislation,” Dean said.

Yes he is. In fact the American people are rushing to buy every gun, magazine, round, case, bullet, primer, and pound of powder in the nation in a fierce show of solidarity with the preznit on this issue.

Obviously it’s a winner for the demorats, so I say “Full speed ahead, bugwits!”

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM

gg

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM

Alternate headline: Swing State Democrats to Perform Seppuku Thursday

crrr6 on April 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Will they repeal the second ammendment…before proceeding?

d1carter on April 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Hey Obowma…

… Stick it up your a%%!

Seven Percent Solution on April 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Exactly when did HA die..?

d1carter on April 9, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Thus far, at least eight GOP senators — John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — have said they will not join in a filibuster being planned by a handful of the party’s more conservative senators…
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The Wack0Bird Group!
(saec)

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

We’ve bought three Gus since November 7, 2012, with one n the way.
Obama is the gun salesman of the year.
I also have my eye on a rad 12 pack of steak knives.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

You would think they could just make a law against violence like assault, battery, and murder.

/

tom daschle concerned on April 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

We couldn’t eat the cake, but we could watch them eat cake tonight on Sequester Soul at our White House…

d1carter on April 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM

…it would have been your last piece of cake anyway!

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Continued

Please call these Republicans today to make sure they know you disagree with President Obama and want them to stand with Senators Paul, Lee, Cruz, and Rubio in fighting for the 2nd Amendment.
• Arizona – Jeff Flake – (202) 224-4521
• Georgia – Saxby Chambliss – (202) 224-3521
• Georgia – Johnny Isakson – (202) 224-3643
• Indiana – Dan Coats – (202) 224-5623
• Iowa – Chuck Grassley – (202) 224-3744
• Maine – Susan Collins – (202) 224-2523
• Nevada – Dean Heller – (202) 224-6244
• New Hampshire – Kelly Ayotte – (202) 224-3324
• Ohio – Rob Portman – (202) 224-3353

The Republican Senators highlighted on the right have pledged to prevent Harry Reid’s gun control bill from coming to the Senate floor.
http://www.senateconservatives.com/site/whiplist/7?c=543521849e4ca644ecec3a4a0fe1bd7c

I’ll be on the phone most of tomorrow, hope all Conservatives will help too!

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

America is being systematically destroyed, I think we all recognize that. Yet the very manner in which it is being done has such an infinitely sublime degree of humiliation to it that one must question if that destruction is not of divine origin.

It’s one thing to accept that the Marxist are attempting to “Fundamentally Transform” America into a Marxist Utopian hellhole. But for the love of God people, we are literally dying a death of 1000 paper-cuts Rubber Chicken slaps. O_O

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM

…where is Bmore ?

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I saw him a little while ago on another thread, so he is around.

KCB on April 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Thus far, at least eight GOP senators — John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — have said they will not join in a filibuster being planned by a handful of the party’s more conservative senators…

Please see yourselves to the door, you pack of sh!t eating traitorous tw@ts.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM

America is being systematically destroyed, I think we all recognize that. Yet the very manner in which it is being done has such an infinitely sublime degree of humiliation to it that one must question if that destruction is not of divine origin.

It’s one thing to accept that the Marxist are attempting to “Fundamentally Transform” America into a Marxist Utopian hellhole. But for the love of God people, we are literally dying a death of 1000 paper-cuts Rubber Chicken slaps. O_O

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM

“What an embarrassing thing to say,” Biden said of the stated intent of 13 senators to prevent a vote on new background check legislation.

“Imagine what they’re saying, gentlemen and ladies, in other capitals around the world today.”…

LOL. Shotgun Joe worrying about what other countries think of us,.. I’m afraid that ship has already sailed, Joe.

a capella on April 9, 2013 at 10:53 PM

If we could just cleanse the gop of the scourge we know as the social conservative, we could prevent getting sidetracked by their stupid social issues like abortion. Then we could work on the real important issues like preserving our second amendment rights and stemming the tide of illegal immigration. Because the only thing that prevents us from concentrating on these important issues is the Conservatives in the party getting sidetracked by their stupid social issues. Can’t do both. Can’t. Conservatives fault. Yep.

Thus far, at least eight GOP senators — John McCain (Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (S.C.), Mark Kirk (Ill.), Johnny Isakson (Ga.), Tom Coburn (Okla.), Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), Kelly Ayotte (N.H.) and Susan Collins (Maine) — have said they will not join in a filibuster being planned by a handful of the party’s more conservative senators…

The effort to filibuster consideration of the legislation has been led by the conservative flank of the Senate Republican conference, spearheaded by Sen. Mike Lee of Utah, Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky and Ted Cruz of Texas.

Oooh, never mind.

hawkdriver on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

He hates life, there can be no other explanation. At least you were smart enough to back off to see another sunrise.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

We’ve bought three Gus since November 7, 2012, with one n the way.
Obama is the gun salesman of the year.
I also have my eye on a rad 12 pack of steak knives.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

GUNS, not Gus. I plan to get a security guard named Gus, just like Jim Carrey.
He packs more than ten and shoots to kill. He’s my .40.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Sen. Joe Manchin says he is on the verge a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for guns sales, an agreement that could lead to the biggest change in U.S. gun laws in nearly 20 years.

FOAD, dirtbag. Maybe you need to just make more campaign commercials where you’re shooting cr@ppy legislation … before you get to Washington to turn around and support it all. Now, you want to jump on the idiot bandwagon of gun bans and more ridiculously offensive and intrusive background checks for all law abiding citizens exercising their God-given rights. You are slime.

And Toomey should be ashamed of himself for even bothering to have any talks with such a despicable dirtbag, let alone coming to any agreements with this leftist, America-hating sack of sh!t.

Washington is nothing but the slime of the Earth.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

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canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Toomey is Democrats’ last hope of reaching a compromise gun deal including background checks with record-keeping of most gun sales, a provision that gun groups and many conservatives fiercely oppose but has broad public support.

So much bullshiite in one small snippet.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:46 PM

Yeah, Toomey was one of those that was having dinner with Obama when Rand Paul was filibustering over the drones, IIRC.

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

…bluefox!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Hey, Mr. Kool!!

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:56 PM

I sincerely hope the Republicans force this bill to be read before it’s voted on. I’m sick and tired of Democrats Rahming through legislation (you have to vote on it now or else we’ll trash you). If the President thinks it’s alright to drag down grieving parents, let’s be able to put this legislation out to the public so, if there’s any trickery in it, they can pressure their Senators to not pass it. It works both ways, but only if Republicans hold fast.

If the stupid Republicans (those who want to rush this puppy through so they can say they did something) would actually hold out for a bill that actually accomplished something, I’d have more respect for them. As it is, you can’t even trust Republicans to do the right thing.

bflat879 on April 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Hey, ladies.

Rusty Allen on April 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM

McCain will have to be dragged from office after having withered away to a human sweet potato, still screaming “But I’m the MAVERICK!”, and Linseed Graham is eventually going to come out of the closet so he might as well vote for gun-grabbing too.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:56 PM

…Hi babe!…you’re doing good work!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:58 PM

Speaking of Guns:

Be-hold the Power of Hypocrisy:
================================

Sunday, April 7, 2013
BUSTED: GABBY GIFFORDS WITH AR-15
Another Liberal hypocrite busted . . .
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IMAGE:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-2kQrDXr2U4c/UWFysj-JH0I/AAAAAAAAYmQ/wT1ykJfn59E/s1600/GabbyGiffords.jpg

In response to the exploitative political scheming of Mark Kelly, persons connected to Congresswoman Giffords released this photo in response to what they perceived to be her husband’s hypocrisy.

Mark Kelly’s campaign against “assault weapons” such as the AR-15 rifle has sparked a local backlash. On March 13, a Tucson, Arizona radio host published a photograph of former Congresswoman Gabby Giffords holding an AR-15 rifle at a gun range. Giffords has since confirmed that the photograph is authentic.

Subsequently, Breitbart News confirmed the authenticity of the image through law enforcement sources in Arizona, and obtained a copy of the photograph from a source who requested anonymity.

The latter source was present when the photograph was taken, and said that Giffords had requested it for campaign purposes during October 2010.

According to the source, the image sent to Breitbart News was cropped to protect the identity of the person on the right-hand side of the original photograph (to Giffords’s left).

The source, who is a member of the law enforcement community, told Breitbart News:

“We were told she wanted to toughen her image. She asked to come out and she wanted to shoot a rifle. She had one of our guys out there to show her how to shoot an AR-15.”

In January 2011, Giffords suffered near-fatal wounds in a mass shooting while meeting with constituents in Tucson. The perpetrator used a 9mm Glock 19 semi-automatic pistol.

Giffords and husband Mark Kelly have since formed an organization, Americans for Responsible Solutions, to press for policy changes such as limiting the sale of “assault weapons, ” including the AR-15.

Read the whole thing HERE
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http://seanlinnane.blogspot.ca/2013/04/busted-gabby-giffords-with-ar-15.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+SeanLinnane+%28Sean+Linnane%29

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

The Wack0Bird Group!
(saec)

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Any that don’t join in preventing this from coming to the floor is a traitor in my book.

Thanks for the list of our enemies, canopfor!! Any warmer up there?

LOL

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen!!

I am so perplexed over this, I can’t think straight any longer :-(

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Hi Chrissy!

KCB on April 9, 2013 at 11:01 PM

Joe Biden and I each have a PHD.
That does stands for post hole digger, doesn’t it?

countrybumpkin on April 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Hi KA2! Hi Ken!! Hi Rusty!!

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM

If this abomination gets its 51 votes you might as well not even visit a gun store unless you’re dressed in full plate armor, because the stampede to buy pretty much everything that’s left will make the last few months look tame in comparison.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Oh brother….

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Will no one rid me of these leeches?

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:02 PM

…Hi poetress!…(is that a legit word?)

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM

I’ve been doing some research on the ‘new’ ideas of the gun-grabbers be they on the Federal, state, or local (new Chicago gun tax) level: taxing guns & ammo, liability, requiring licences to purchase guns and ammo, etc.

This is some of what I’ve found and will put it into 2 posts…

The Supreme Court drew analogies between the First and Second Amendments in District of Columbia v Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008), in which the Court first ruled that the Second Amendment protects an individual right to keep and bear arms, as opposed to a collective right of maintaining a militia.

The right to keep and bear arms and other rights are to have, “freedom from all substantial arbitrary impositions and purposeless restraints” under the Fourteenth Amendment. Poe v Ullman, 367 U.S. 497 (1961), Albright v Oliver, 510 U.S. 266 (1994), among others.

The Supreme Court has concluded that the procedural protections contained in the Bill of Rights were made applicable to the States by the Fourteenth Amendment in numerous cases.

In Albright v Oliver, 510 U.S. 266 (1994), the Court said:

‘It was through these provisions of the Bill of Rights that their Framers sought to restrict the exercise of arbitrary authority by the Government in particular situations. Where a particular Amendment “provides an explicit textual source of constitutional protection” against a particular sort of government behavior, “that Amendment, not the more generalized notion of `substantive due process,’ must be the guide for analyzing these claims.’ See Graham v Connor, 490 U. S. 386, at 394-5 (1989)

In Murdock v Pennsylvania, 319 U.S. 105 (1943), the Court said:

‘It is a license tax – a flat tax imposed on the exercise of a privilege granted by the Bill of Rights. A state may not impose a charge for the enjoyment of a right granted by the federal constitution. McGoldrick v Berwind-White Co., 309 U.S. 33 (1940).

The power to impose a license tax on the exercise of these freedoms is indeed as potent as the power of censorship which this Court has repeatedly struck down. Lovell v Griffin, 303 U.S. 444 (1938); Schneider v State, 308 U.S. 147 (1939); Cantwell v Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940); Largent v Texas, 318 U.S. 418 (1943); Jamison v Texas, 318 U.S. 413 (1943).

It is a flat license tax levied and collected as a condition to the pursuit of activities whose enjoyment is guaranteed by the [Constitution]. Accordingly, it restrains in advance those constitutional liberties…and inevitably tends to suppress their exercise. That is almost uniformly recognized as the inherent vice and evil of this flat license tax. As stated by the Supreme Court of Illinois, a person cannot be compelled ‘to purchase, through a license fee or a license tax, the privilege freely granted by the constitution.’ Blue Island v Kozul, 379 Ill. 511, 519, 41 N.E.2d 515, 519. So it may not be said that proof is lacking that these license taxes either separately or cumulatively have restricted or are likely to restrict petitioners’ … activities, which are protected by the Constitution. On their face they are a restriction of the free exercise of those freedoms which are protected by the [Constitution].

This tax is not a charge for the enjoyment of a privilege or benefit bestowed by the state. The privilege in question exists apart from state authority. It is guaranteed the people by the Federal Constitution.

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM

In Harper v Virginia Board of Electors, 383 U.S. 663 (1966), the Court said:

We have long been mindful that, where fundamental rights and liberties are asserted under the Equal Protection Clause, classifications which might invade or restrain them must be closely scrutinized and carefully confined. See, e.g., Skinner v. Oklahoma, 316 U.S. 535 (1942); Reynolds v Sims, 377 U.S. 533 (1964); Carrington v Rash, 380 U.S. 89 (1965); Baxstrom v Herold, 383 U.S. 107 (1966); Cox v Louisiana, 379 U.S. 536 (1965), 580-581 (BLACK, J., concurring).

In Lovell v City of Griffin, 303 U.S. 444 (1938), the Court said:

‘All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Freedom of speech and freedom of the press, which are protected by the First Amendment from infringement by Congress, [substitute the right to bear arms, individually, which is protected by the Second Amendment from infringement by Congress] are among the fundamental personal rights and liberties which are protected by the Fourteenth Amendment from invasion by state action. Gitlow v New York, 268 U.S. 652 (1925); Stromberg v California, 283 U.S. 359 (1931); Near v Minnesota, 283 U.S. 697 (1931); Grosjean v American Press Co., 297 U.S. 233 (1936); De Jonge v Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937). See also Palko v Connecticut, 302 U.S. 319 (1937). It is also well settled that municipal ordinances adopted under state authority constitute state action, and are within the prohibition of the amendment. Raymond v Chicago Union Traction Co., 207 U.S. 20 (1907); Home Telephone & Telegraph Co. v Los Angeles, 211 U.S. 265 (1908); Cuyahoga River Power Co. v Akron, 240 U.S. 462 (1916).

In Cantwell v Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940), the Court said:

‘The freedom to act must have appropriate definition to preserve the enforcement of that protection. In every case, the power to regulate must be so exercised as not, in attaining a permissible end, unduly to infringe the protected freedom.

The State of Connecticut has an obvious interest in the preservation and protection of peace and good order within her borders. We must determine whether the alleged protection of the State’s interest, means to which end would, in the absence of limitation by the Federal Constitution, lie wholly within the State’s discretion, has been pressed, in this instance, to a point where it has come into fatal collision with the overriding interest protected by the federal compact.’

Obviously, there is a limitation imposed by the Federal Constitution.

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I need to go scrotched earth here…

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Obama & Bloomberg are mounting a full court press in Congress this week. Contact your Senators to oppose #guncontrol! http://www.nraila.org/writeyourreps

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23guncontrol

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:54 PM

This is similar to the Senate Conservatives Fund outreach:

SCF is doing everything it can to win this important battle. In fact, we launched a national radio and television campaign yesterday to collect 1 million petitions urging the Senate to defend the 2nd Amendment. Please call 1-800-605-1755 to add your name to the petition.

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

If this abomination gets its 51 votes you might as well not even visit a gun store unless you’re dressed in full plate armor, because the stampede to buy pretty much everything that’s left will make the last few months look tame in comparison.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:03 PM

“Creamed eels.”
“Corn nog.”
“Wadded beef.”

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:06 PM

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let’s not have any native militia or native police.

VorDaj on April 9, 2013 at 11:07 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Minus the R it is hon :-)

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:07 PM

Excellent interview with Paul. This is the first time that I’ve heard that there is the possibility of a bill that would make it a crime for someone not to report a gun being stolen within a 24 hour period punishable by a year in jail. That is insane. What if someone breaks into your home and steals one while you are away on vacation for a week and don’t find out until you return. These Dems are crazy. That is pure abuse of power.

WhatSlushfund on April 9, 2013 at 11:08 PM

MeanWhile,NK has there finger on da trigger:

North Korea:
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South On Alert For Missile Launch
South Korea fears Pyongyang could launch up to three missiles after weeks of threats, according to local reports.

3:15am UK, Wednesday 10 April 2013
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http://news.sky.com/story/1076087/north-korea-south-on-alert-for-missile-launch
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canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 11:08 PM

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:56 PM

…Hi babe!…you’re doing good work!

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:58 PM

I’ve been busy. Not easy fighting the Feds, the State Senators/Reps & Gov and doing Taxes, LOL Oh, I did play cards today tho:-)

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:08 PM

BlueFox! Thanks for the important info!! You are a treasure :-)

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

You are amazing Sophie! Glad you’re on our side ;-)

KCB on April 9, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Hey, dudes.

Rusty Allen on April 9, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Thanks Sophie!!! You are on the ball!! :-)

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

I need to go scrotched earth here…

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

*pops a bowl of popcorn and gets ready for the big show*

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Lanceman, good to see you!! :-)

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:11 PM

this is what is embarrassing. The left owns the senate and so is now driving the country, hectoring and whipping as necessary. Whereas the House was supposed to the the short term passionate house…with the senate to serve as a saucer with which to cool the passion

To the framers themselves, Madison explained that the Senate would be a “necessary fence” against the “fickleness and passion” that tended to influence the attitudes of the general public and members of the House of Representatives. George Washington is said to have told Jefferson that the framers had created the Senate to “cool” House legislation just as a saucer was used to cool hot tea

what is embarrassing is that Showboats like McCain and the usual suspects are so eager to fall in line that they promise not to filibuster something that we haven’t even seen

These people embarrass the country

r keller on April 9, 2013 at 11:11 PM

Rusty!!

KCB on April 9, 2013 at 11:11 PM

*pops a bowl of popcorn and gets ready for the big show*

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Actually I think filly-buster is a bad idear.

Let the red state ‘rats vote and own it.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Thank you, Sophie! I’ve copied your comments to my archive for future reference, these in particular but also many others. You are a treasure.

PatriotGal2257 on April 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Hey, Scrumpy.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

Would a “I Will Not Comply” patch right next to the “Molon Labe” and Gadsden patch on my motorcycle jacket be too obvious?

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:13 PM

*pops a bowl of popcorn and gets ready for the big show*

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Actually I think filly-buster is a bad idear.

Let the red state ‘rats vote and own it.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

That’s it?
Color me underwhelmed.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:14 PM

The Azzhole in his Glory

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Racists against guns

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM

That’s it?
Color me underwhelmed.

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:14 PM

That’s as scrotched as I get.

Unless something like a DoucheBear shows up.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM

It was an educational trip, rubes

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:15 PM

*pops a bowl of popcorn and gets ready for the big show*

RovesChins on April 9, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Actually I think filly-buster is a bad idear.

Let the red state ‘rats vote and own it.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:12 PM

With all due respect Lancerman, that is a stone cold stupid idea.

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Lol, a tad bit maybe?

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Many seem to think it would be best to forgo a filibuster so some Senate Dems have uncomfortable votes when it comes to passage. OK, say it passes with 51. Now another mass murder happens. All the pressure in the political world comes down on the House. How will they vote? I don’t like taking those chances. Stand now. Stand firm.

KCB on April 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:04 PM

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:05 PM

I don’t know what we’d do without you to help in these complicated matters!!

I’ll admit I don’t know these things, but do you think Congress does and are just ignoring them?

Ted Cruz made a great point on the Mark Levin show this evening when stating that it’s the Responsibility of Congress to protect the Bill of Rights; it’s their duty.

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:17 PM

The Wack0Bird Group!
(saec)

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Any that don’t join in preventing this from coming to the floor is a traitor in my book.

Thanks for the list of our enemies, canopfor!! Any warmer up there?

LOL

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

bluefox:

Amen on the FiliBuster,and its still cold,getting snow!

I blame Global Warming,er Climate Change Sumpin!:)

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Obama feeds on carrion.

Today’s stabbings left him no food. Maybe he’ll starve.

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

If you are wondering how hunting licences, duck stamps, etc, are constitutional, they are licences on activities, i.e., hunting, shooting ducks, etc, not the ownership of firearms.

The government may charge a nominal fee to process a background check, for example; provided, that it is not intended to act as a prior restraint and/or burden on the constitutionally-protected right to bear arms. It can also charge a nominal fee to licence ‘dangerous and unusual weapons which are not in the common usage’ such as fully-automatic weapons, but it cannot ban or regulate ‘an entire class of arms that is overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose,’ especially handguns, shotguns, and most rifles. I would also add AR-15s and semi-automatic weapons of all kinds, which are commonly used by Americans for self-defence.

Also, ‘laws, regulations, or rules that render the firearm inoperable and defeat the fundamental purpose of self-defence are unconstitutional.’ District of Columbia v Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). No law, regulation, or rule that ‘makes it impossible for citizens to use firearms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.’ Heller, supra. The holding in Heller was applied to the states in McDonald v City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010).

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

I’d love to go target practice, but I’m notnrasting a single round.

Bought an old PSE Polaris compound bow, too.

Scary times.

wolly4321 on April 9, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Ted Cruz made a great point on the Mark Levin show this evening when stating that it’s the Responsibility of Congress to protect the Bill of Rights; it’s their duty.

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:17 PM

It is. They let the azzhole get away with this. What else does he do and they let it be. Who pays/threatens them? Or are they soooo incredibly stupid.

It’s all the people’s fault. They voted for each and every one of them.

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:20 PM

With all due respect Lancerman, that is a stone cold stupid idea.

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Prolly. Ain’t known for too much brains.

Lanceman on April 9, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Current NK Missile Launch Status:

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News5 AKSYON News5 AKSYON ‏@News5AKSYON 1m

US information on North Korea comes from satellite imagery, no means to gather information on the ground. via @CNN
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News5 AKSYON News5 AKSYON ‏@News5AKSYON 6m

U.S official says launch could be “imminent,” but also cautioned that the United States “simply doesn’t know.” via @CNN
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U.S.: NoKor missiles remain at a point about halfway down the eastern coast of North Korea and are about 10 miles inland. via @CNN
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U.S. official: North Korea could test fire missiles at any time. via @CNN
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canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 11:21 PM

WhatSlushfund on April 9, 2013 at 11:08 PM

Don’t be shocked, surprised or appalled, this is what they do.

Take one long look at the horror-show anti gun bill passed in CT recently and you will see just how badly those state pols managed to eff everything up. The new law actually requires gun stores to break existing law, only a liberal could dream up something like that.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:22 PM

BlueFox! Thanks for the important info!! You are a treasure :-)

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:09 PM

Thanks Scrumpy and you are also!! I’ve been awol at the Gulch, but have been pressed for time with necessary things:-) Interferes with my blogging!! LOL

Informing the family members with the dangers from D.C. too.

Hope things are good for you and all the Gulchers!!

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Also, ‘laws, regulations, or rules that render the firearm inoperable and defeat the fundamental purpose of self-defence are unconstitutional.’ District of Columbia v Heller, 554 U.S. 570 (2008). No law, regulation, or rule that ‘makes it impossible for citizens to use firearms for the core lawful purpose of self-defense and is hence unconstitutional.’ Heller, supra. The holding in Heller was applied to the states in McDonald v City of Chicago, 561 U.S. 3025 (2010).

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 11:18 PM

Bloody damned shame that California doesn’t believe itself constrained by the US Constitution, we wouldn’t be saddled with our own Assault weapons ban or that damned bullet button rule.

SWalker on April 9, 2013 at 11:22 PM

Wired: ATF is Building a Huge New Database So that It Won’t Track Gun Sales

Good ol’ Bryan

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:23 PM

…where is Bmore ?

KOOLAID2 on April 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I hope he gets back soon, whatever the reasons…

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Would a “I Will Not Comply” patch right next to the “Molon Labe” and Gadsden patch on my motorcycle jacket be too obvious?

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:13 PM

LOL

bluefox on April 9, 2013 at 11:25 PM

Good Evening Ladies and Gentlemen!!

I am so perplexed over this, I can’t think straight any longer :-(

Scrumpy on April 9, 2013 at 11:00 PM

Scrumpy:Good Evening Scrump,open about 14 windows,er tabs,that’ll
keep your mind straighter,..or,…not!:)

canopfor on April 9, 2013 at 11:25 PM

I’d love to go target practice, but I’m notnrasting a single round.

Bought an old PSE Polaris compound bow, too.

Scary times.

wolly4321 on April 9, 2013 at 11:20 PM

Ain’t that the truth. There is no ammo to replace what I would normally shoot so I’ve trimmed it down to almost nothing.

Now I plink red squirrels from the deck with my Gamo pellet gun, or keep my Bowtech Assassin dust-free by sending broadheads through a foam deer. Seems so odd to think that my bow might be an actual line of defense.

Bishop on April 9, 2013 at 11:25 PM

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