U.S. embassy in Cairo condemns “the violence” after Egyptian police help attack Coptic cathedral

posted at 4:01 pm on April 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

As the old saying goes: Guns don’t kill people, “violence” kills people.

Amb. Patterson and the entire staff of the Embassy convey our deepest condolences to the friends and families of the Egyptians – both Christian and Muslim – who were killed or injured in the recent violence in Al Khosous and Abassiyya. We condemn the violence, and welcome President Mohamed Morsy’s promise to conduct a full and transparent investigation. It is the responsibility of the state to protect all of its citizens.

Follow the link for Facebook comments scoffing at the embassy’s tender naivete that Morsi will crack down on “the violence.” It’s true that Morsi did phone the Coptic pope to express solidarity after the cathedral attack, but the Times’s account of what happened adds interesting nuance to that. Give ‘em credit, too: Unpleasant facts about the Middle East are often suppressed by the media for fear of making a perpetually bad situation worse.

The violence began Friday when a sectarian dispute in the town of Khusus outside Cairo escalated into a gunfight that killed four Christians and a Muslim — the first major episode of deadly sectarian violence since Mr. Morsi’s election last year. Hundreds of Christians and sympathetic Muslims gathered at the cathedral Sunday for the four Christians’ funeral, chanting for the removal from power of Mr. Morsi and his Islamist allies.

“With our blood and our soul we will sacrifice ourselves for the cross,” the crowd intoned.

Clashes erupted immediately after the service between the emerging mourners and a crowd outside the cathedral. It was unclear who started the violence. But later dozens of riot police with armored vehicles and tear-gas canons appeared to enter the fray on the side of crowds of young Muslim men who were throwing rocks and fire bombs at the mourners.

In what seemed like a siege of the cathedral, tear-gas canisters fell inside the walls of its compound, sending gas into the sanctuary and two nuns running for shelter in a nearby loading dock.

Later, some of the young civilians who had been attacking the cathedral switched to taunts, making lewd gestures involving the sign of the cross. The riot policemen made no attempt to stop them, either from throwing rocks toward the cathedral or insulting the Christians.

The Christians and their supporters fought back, some allegedly with fire bombs. According to the bishop, the area around the cathedral was left unsecured for five hours before the funerals — which wouldn’t be the first time Egyptian security was conspicuously thin at a moment when the risk of an attack was unusually high. Either Morsi and the Brotherhood have tacitly (or not so tacitly?) authorized this insanity or they’ve lost control of Islamist/Salafist sympathizers in the security forces, some of whom may feel emboldened by the Brotherhood’s rise to power. And our diplomats evidently are in no position to challenge them on it. Remember, before today’s weaselly statement, the embassy yanked a tweet linking to Jon Stewart’s criticism of Morsi for fear of further offending the MB. If you’re willing to look the other way at this in the name of “peace,” I guess you’re obliged to look the other way at everything.

Exit quotation from a human-rights advocate, speaking to Kirsten Powers for her recent column about persecution in the region: “The future of Christians in the Middle East is very bleak. What has happened in Iraq and Syria is de facto ethnic cleansing of Christians.”


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Another strongly worded message, followed by an even sterner worded message. Trust me, they’ll back off while quaking with fear. They know Jugears doesn’t play around.

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platypus on April 8, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Thank you, President Obama…

d1carter on April 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Well, you gotta admit, if our own military finds Christians a threat (see thread from earlier today) then it’s no surprise the Egyptian police do as well.

WitchDoctor on April 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM

The Arab’spring’ is in full bloom.

Name one free/freer nation under Obama, I triple dare you.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM

ROPMA.

Ward Cleaver on April 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again: Everyone in our government, and everyone in the military over the rank of Major, should be behind bars for their role in aiding this ongoing genocide by Muz-scum, not just in Egypt, but worldwide, including here.

Also, I find it hard to believe this report’s claim that Coptic Christians painted a swastika on an “Islamic institution” (whatever that means) or that Muslims were offended by it, since they love Nazis.

WhatSlushfund on April 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM

I just don’t have the fortitude to stomach all the CRAP coming from Leftists/Marxists/Communists today. Think I’ll shut down the ol’ internet for the rest of the day.

Jackalope on April 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM

At what point do we get to Crusade time?
There won’t be any Christians left in the Middle East soon.

Dexter_Alarius on April 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM

The Barbarians are at the gate here in America, not just Muslims. That is my opinion.

Gatekeeper on April 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I used to think the risk of a Democrat regime was merely economic misery and maybe increased risk of regional wars as the Obama administration made good on candidate Obama’s threat to disengage from the world.

Now I see I was far too timid: world war starting in Asia is on the menu, along with the ethnic cleansing of Christians in the middle east.

Whatever else these incredible tools will do to the world, you can count on it happening too.

MTF on April 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

It’s the Arab Spring, and with springtime come a few storms, and sometimes those storms create tornadoes and the tornadoes kill people.

Just wait until the Arab Summer, then you will see results.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

It’s the Arab Spring, and with springtime come a few storms, and sometimes those storms create tornadoes and the tornadoes kill people.

Just wait until the Arab Summer, then you will see results.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

The good news is that the situation in Egypt is not sustainable- the country is an economic disaster, corruption and lawlessness are out of control, and the Islamists completely own it. Whatever future path the Egyptian people choose to embrace, it almost certainly will not include Morsy and his clan.

bayam on April 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

It’s the Arab Spring, and with springtime come a few storms, and sometimes those storms create tornadoes and the tornadoes kill people.

Just wait until the Arab Summer, then you will see results.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Lol. One of the things that cracks me up (in a gallows-humor kind of way) about the press-launched term ‘Arab Spring’ is that Egyptians aren’t even ethnically ‘Arab.’ They’re Egyptian. This is how dumb/corrupt our MSM is.

WhatSlushfund on April 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

I hate it when HotAir becomes filled with articles about sects and violence!!

landlines on April 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

The good news is that the situation in Egypt is not sustainable- the country is an economic disaster, corruption and lawlessness are out of control, and the Islamists completely own it. Whatever future path the Egyptian people choose to embrace, it almost certainly will not include Morsy and his clan.

bayam on April 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

*ring ring* *ring ring*

Hello? Yeah…ok hold on…

Bayam, it’s Afghanistan on the line, they want to talk to you.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 4:45 PM

They know Jugears doesn’t play around.

platypus on April 8, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I thought I read that he was playing a round today.

…beats workin’!

landlines on April 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM

landlines on April 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Nice catch. That was my sarc point.

platypus on April 8, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Clashes erupted immediately after the service between the emerging mourners and a crowd outside the cathedral. It was unclear who started the violence.

In what seemed like a siege of the cathedral, tear-gas canisters fell inside the walls of its compound, sending gas into the sanctuary and two nuns running for shelter in a nearby loading dock.

Three drunken sailors mooning a mob of cheek-o-phobes, maybe, because alcohol makes you 100 times bigger, and a guy has to do what a guy has to do.

But in the absence of ‘shine, I’m not sure there’s any question about who started the violence. This bit probably gives it away:

and a crowd outside the cathedral

– that probably wasn’t a flash-mob about to spring into We Wish You a Merry Christmas.

Axe on April 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM

The good news is that the situation in Egypt is not sustainable- the country is an economic disaster, corruption and lawlessness are out of control, and the Islamists completely own it. Whatever future path the Egyptian people choose to embrace, it almost certainly will not include Morsy and his clan.

bayam on April 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

…chewing alot of hay again!…so with Morsi and his clan gone…the Christians will be safe…and the situation will be sustainable?

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 5:14 PM

*i.e., stop talking to me like you just pulled me out of a particularly unfortunate motorcycle accident.

Axe on April 8, 2013 at 5:15 PM

Ed, why qualify things with terms like MoBros or Salafists. Any Egyptian Muslim can tell you the proper role of a Christian Copt in Egypt, collecting garbage and doing the jobs Muslims won’t. There is going to be a lot of dead Copts.

Fortunately for America, there was a Muslim killed, so it felt safe to bring it up as mutual sympathy for both sides. If it were just Copts killed, Brave Sir Robin would not have uttered a peep.

BL@KBIRD on April 8, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Hooray for the Arab Spring!

jnelchef on April 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM

“The future of Christians in the Middle East is very bleak. What has happened in Iraq and Syria is de facto ethnic cleansing of Christians.”

And what kind of articles do the news services (AP, Reuters, AFP) run? How there are fewer Palestinian Christians in Israel now than there were ten or twenty years ago. That they have left due to Islamism barely gets a nod. The media are too busy screaming about the “wall” in Bethlehem to notice that Gaza is nearly free of Christians completely, and only Israel’s Christian population–out of the entire Middle East–is growing.

Meryl Yourish on April 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Dear President Morsi.

Pretty please be nice. I’m sure you’re doing everything to protect the Christians in your country ;) Enclosed is a check for 7 billion dollars. Thanks, Barack Obama.

P.S. Next time you’re in town, hit me up, we’ll shoot eighteen.

Minnfidel on April 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM

How many billions in aid have we promised to give these animals?

I think one of the champions against religious persecution, like Frank Wolf, needs to sponsor legislation denying any aid to nations that do not respect religious freedom.

An a “happier” note, I’m glad that our embassy in Cairo did not apologize for Christ having to have died and all so that the Muslim Brotherhood got upset.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 5:36 PM

I hate it when HotAir becomes filled with articles about sects and violence!!

landlines on April 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Beats the current fare these days of gays, guns, and amnesty. I call it the social liberal diet. Can’t go a day without finding out just what’s up with those gays!

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM

We give these vile, subhuman animals billions in tribute a year.

The kenyan is truly the antichrist.

acyl72 on April 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM

It’s the Arab Spring, and with springtime come a few storms, and sometimes those storms create tornadoes and the tornadoes kill people.

Just wait until the Arab Summer, then you will see results.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

The good news is that the situation in Egypt is not sustainable- the country is an economic disaster, corruption and lawlessness are out of control, and the Islamists completely own it. Whatever future path the Egyptian people choose to embrace, it almost certainly will not include Morsy and his clan.

bayam on April 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

I guess those billions of dollars the US gives them annually could never sustain them could it? After all it’s expensive to run a economy where they live in mud huts, cook on dung fires and wipe their arse with their hands.

acyl72 on April 8, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Don’t worry we are in the age of smart power. Smart Power yes in full bloom in the Egyptian embassy then across the pond in Korea the US S Korean ambassador is busy vacationing with his family in southern south korea while one of the hottest N Korean saber rattling is going on.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/us-ambassador-s-korea-blogs-about-vacation-amid-tension-north-korea_714668.html

money quotes

“However, starting early that Saturday morning, as new threats started coming from North Korea, I got busy with work. I had many calls and emails with Washington policymakers, senior South Korean officials, and U.S. Forces Korea. My BlackBerry was very busy,”

At one point, I had to send my daughters to the aquarium gift shop and then find a somewhat secluded stairwell to take part in what I hoped would be a 10-minute conference call. Unfortunately, the call lasted 40 minutes.”

how dare they interrupt his family time. Smart Power in full effect. Just like his boss who now blames not a spoiled brat trying to stir a crisis to hold his people down with but the US navy for daring to show unconditional support and daring to participate in annual exercises.

C-Low on April 8, 2013 at 9:45 PM

forgot to hattip Weekly Standard

C-Low on April 8, 2013 at 9:47 PM

How does one say “Kristallnacht” in Arabic?

Just remember, bringing the Muslim Brotherhood (founded as a sister party of the German Nazi party in the 1930s) into the Egyptian government has long been a goal of some of President Obama’s earliest supporters from way back during his Chicago days.

Why Obama has to get Egypt right
By George Soros
Thursday, February 3, 2011

Egypt is more complex and, ultimately, more influential, which is why it is so important to get it right. The protesters are very diverse, including highly educated and common people, young and old, well-to-do and desperately poor. While the slogans and crowds in Tahrir Square are not advancing a theocratic agenda at all, the best-organized political opposition that managed to survive in that country’s repressive environment is the Muslim Brotherhood. In free elections, the Brotherhood is bound to emerge as a major political force, though it is far from assured of a majority

President Obama personally and the United States as a country have much to gain by moving out in front and siding with the public demand for dignity and democracy. This would help rebuild America’s leadership and remove a lingering structural weakness in our alliances that comes from being associated with unpopular and repressive regimes. Most important, doing so would open the way to peaceful progress in the region. The Muslim Brotherhood’s cooperation with Mohamed ElBaradei, the Nobel laureate who is seeking to run for president, is a hopeful sign that it intends to play a constructive role in a democratic political system.

Mr. Soros made no hollow promise of support:

in the case of Egypt, I see a good chance of success. As a committed advocate of democracy and open society, I cannot help but share in the enthusiasm that is sweeping across the Middle East. I hope President Obama will expeditiously support the people of Egypt. My foundations are prepared to contribute what they can.

Forget not also who Mr. Soros assures us is the real problem in the region:

The main stumbling block is Israel.

Mike OMalley on April 8, 2013 at 10:01 PM

HOTAIR has some nerve even mentioning this event after its ludicrous dismissal of Robert Spencer. Some of us saw the unfolding Arab “Spring” very clearly and were able to predict the future with precision based on Islamic theology and doctrine. Spencer at the forefront.

Apparently this was too uncomfortable for hotair though – it might lose them some sort of valued voice at the conservative table – so let’s just ignore the coming avalanche of human sufferring for the sake of Norquist’s benevolent smile.

And now you report this event like you care about what was always, inevitably going to happen.

I’m sorry, I find that deeply hypocritical.

Liam1304 on April 9, 2013 at 6:39 AM