New MSNBC promo: “We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents”

posted at 10:41 am on April 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

Via Legal Insurrection, between this and Krystal Ball’s Socratic dialogue with a five-year-old about gay marriage, evidently it was indoctrination weekend at MSNBC. The novelty here isn’t the sentiment, it’s the candor. Hillary made this same point more digestible for the public by ladling on warm-fuzzy sauce about a “village” raising a child together. (Similarly, don’t think of huge government programs as budget-busting liabilities. They’re Christmas presents!) Harris-Perry had 30 seconds to give her version of the same point; when you’re operating within those time constraints, there may be no way to make the pitch in terms less creepy than this. I almost want to congratulate her for throwing a word as clammy as “collective” in there. It shows a certain bravado.

Here’s your counterpoint, from 2011, on whether the U.S. is “investing” enough in education. Another half-trillion or so ought to turn things around, I think. No wonder Ron Paul’s getting into home-schooling.

Update: Apologies to John Sexton. He had the Harris-Perry video yesterday and linked to the same USC post I linked to above, but I honestly didn’t see his item at Breitbart until after I posted this.


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Pure Marxism, in practice right before our eyes. Destroy the nuclear family; destroy religion; destroy traditional values. What’s frightening is that she feels so comfortable framing it in such blunt terms.

TarheelBen on April 8, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Pardon me if this has been already pointed out – But if children belong to the “Collective” [The government] – then wouldn’t it logically follow that we all belong to the “Collective” [The government]?

In essence, we are all Slaves to the government?

Galt2009 on April 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Done deal. Obamacare took care of that.

Is this woman an actual Human??

…so she just beamed in from a Sh*tty galaxy somewhere,
right??

ToddPA on April 8, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Maybe so.

itsacookbook on April 8, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Pure Marxism, in practice right before our eyes. Destroy the nuclear family; destroy religion; destroy traditional values. What’s frightening is that she feels so comfortable framing it in such blunt terms.

TarheelBen on April 8, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Yes, she’s very smug, self-satisfied and confident about it all. As one would expect any good progressive to be.

inviolet on April 8, 2013 at 3:54 PM

If the collective is taking care of our kids, why can’t our kids find jobs? Why are so many of our kids getting shot?

The notion that government is benevolent is the scariest notion in existence. Government has 1 core power – the power to destroy. It uses that power to take away freedom in various ways. Sometimes it’s helpful – mainly when you have to fight off some other government. But for the most part, governments literally suck wealth and productivity out of society.

Government is a tick; and big government is just a fatter tick.

hawksruleva on April 8, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Alinsky Sex-Ed 101:
“You didn’t conceive that!”
Terp Mole on April 8, 2013 at 10:45 AM

This cracked me up. Funniest post of the thread :), if it wasn’t true :(..

jimver on April 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

‘Then we start making better investments’ :)…coz we all know the govt excels at that :)

jimver on April 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Great to hear! I want to send my kids to the Christian school their big sister went to, but I can’t afford it. You can send me the check and I will invest it in their quality Christian education! Oh, and if they are truant, will you go to jail pretty government lady?

Trey

TMink on April 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM

The notion that government is benevolent is the scariest notion in existence.

hawksruleva on April 8, 2013 at 4:02 PM

We have only ourselves to blame. We allowed this to happen. While we slept, the educational system was infiltrated, subverted and rebuilt as a Marxist assembly line. Even the older Democrats, who wouldn’t go along with Reagans’ elimination of the Dept of Ed., didn’t forsee this.

…and here we are.

Government, as religion.

98ZJUSMC on April 8, 2013 at 6:00 PM

In essence, we are all Slaves to the government?

Galt2009 on April 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM

The End Game for the Lords, High Priests and Masters of the Religion of Government.

hawkeye54 on April 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Another way for gays to get kids… the collective sharing of all children.

Makes sense.

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 6:38 PM

New MSNBC promo: “We have to break through our kind of private idea that kids belong to their parents”

…all the people at their network and everyone they use to promote their agenda…need to have their sex organs cauterized!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Would the person at GE funding the bend forward comments please STOP!

stuartm650 on April 8, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Did everyone know that “Obamaphones” was a Republican idea? http://colorlines.com/archives/2013/04/the_truth_about_so-called_obamaphones.html#.UWLZgCqbkrw.facebook

libfreeordie on April 8, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Trying to hijack the thread again, liveasaslaveanddie?

Or are you just too stupid to realize what the subject is?

Or – perhaps you’re in favor of “communally-owned” children? Got your eye on a cute little boy, do you?

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Well, if you’re gay and can’t have your own children, or you abort any pregnancies that you have because they might be inconvenient, how else are you going to get control of young minds, other than by appropriating other people’s children?

talkingpoints on April 8, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Melissa Harris-Perry: one nathy piethe of work.

bofh on April 8, 2013 at 9:58 PM

Why do so many leftists lisp? Some bad parenting there, way back at potty-training time. Right, Melitthha?

Oh, and what could go wrong with this?

If anybody needs me I’ll be in Galt’s Gulch.

Naturally Curly on April 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

This has to be the most unsettling video I have ever seen. Words fail me.

OliverB on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I thought this was a science segment showing how androids can actually speak now.

You can’t hear the director congratulating her after the segment:

That’s really great, sweetie, very convincing! Oh, your babysitter called to say your kids wandered off but she had to leave for date…no worries, it’s a cool neighborhood, I’m sure people look out for each other.</blockquote>

virgo on April 9, 2013 at 12:10 AM

“Once children are everybody’s responsibility….”

That’s an interesting phrase. But we have a saying, “If it’s everyone‘s responsibility, then it’s no one‘s responsibility.”

And this is the true end result of treating children like they belong to the whole society. Once you get into the notion that children are everybody‘s responsibility, then children will be no one‘s responsibility at all.

God was a little smarter than that. Children have a mother and father. Give more people than that responsibility for them, and everything will always be someone else’s job.

There Goes The Neighborhood on April 9, 2013 at 12:17 AM

God Help Us.

Jvette on April 9, 2013 at 12:58 AM

I seen enough, Just wake me when the shooting starts.

claudius on April 9, 2013 at 1:25 AM

We’re saying that for America to get back on track, we’re probably going to cut that short and not give it to you. We’re going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

You thought she was talking about money?

Kenosha Kid on April 9, 2013 at 2:24 AM

A person who would abort their own child would have no problem turning their child over to the “collective”.

xrayiiis on April 9, 2013 at 6:39 AM

Has this fascist given up her own daughter to the state yet?

zoyclem on April 9, 2013 at 7:25 AM

I wouldn’t want to help raise her kids.

Kissmygrits on April 9, 2013 at 9:24 AM

OT: Begin familiarizing yourself with Obama’s Common Core for education. I’m disappointed that Hot Air isn’t addressing this. Think kids are indoctrinated now? Just wait. The weekend before last, my local paper was lauding the adoption by the local archdiocese of the Common Core nonsense. These phucking idiot Catholics have no idea that within five to ten years Common Core dictates will be used to require them to celebrate homosexuality in their classrooms.

On topic: as someone with no kids, I agree with this sentiment only in the sense. Children are the responsibility of their parents. The responsibility of all other adults–childless or not–is to uphold standards of conduct that don’t undermine what’s presumably being taught at home. For example, acting like an adult, not a jacka**, in front of kids. In short, don’t leave it to parents to have to explain your behavior to them.

BuckeyeSam on April 8, 2013 at 11:01 AM

Common Core is being sold to me, HS science teacher, as nothing like that.
Now I know that is what it will bring in the end. Bcs I’ve watched these education fads come & go & when a state participates in Federal funding & programs, there are things that are ‘required’ of the state to eventually do.
Lind of like when you accept Federal disaster aid $$ as an agriculture business. Did you know this gives the Federal govt the right to stick it’s nose into your business? Hubby years ago accepted a total of $150 for the winter of 96-97 feed assistance from the Feds.
They came out for THREE YEARS & counted his cow numbers.
So when you let the Fed ‘take care of your business’, you open the door to let them further into your business.
And these rules are never published & when you ask one govt official versus another no one knows WTF is ever going on.
They literally make this $hit up as they go along.
The Fed & state have long put price tags on their favors.
IT is exactly why the people need to stop looking to the Fed & the state to be taken care of.
And for those of you who decry how some parents who homeschool aren’t teaching their kids the things you think they should be taught, I.e. religious parents who teach Creationism aka I.D. in lieu of scientific method based science:
while I think it’s a shame, it is NONE of my business what parents choose to teach their kids.
NONE.
If those same parents bring their kid to public school, then they also have every right to pull the kid from certain lectures they don’t agree with.
Kids ARE the property of their parents. And they have to be.

Badger40 on April 9, 2013 at 11:11 AM

First, though, they’ll have to take your guns.

Then they’ll take your kids … for the betterment of the collective.

How do they identify the kids to take?

Government-run early-childhood education will identify those that show promise in a particular field.

How to take the kids?

Make the parents so dirt poor (taxation, regulation, devalue the currency) that they will hand them over “for their own good”.

Where do we get this model of government accomplish?

China. Marxist Communism at its very core.

Everything in the progressive cause is interconnected for the common goal.

Carnac on April 9, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Good thing this psychotic little hag is only seen by old folks, who are forced to watch as McDonald’s streams her MSNBC bullshit for free, while the seniors get together for cheap coffee.

Hey Melissa, and all leftists who may feel like her…

You are now openly challenging me to a fight.

It was bad enough when Mike ‘disgustingly rich and elite’ Bloomberg decided he knew better than you how much Soda you should buy from 7-11.

It’s bad enough that you are trying to take firearms away from the citizenry, that they may not defend themselves from your tyranny.

It’s bad enough that you have forced socialized medicine on a country that doesn’t want it, and can’t use it…especially at a time when the greatest number of our population will need quality healthcare.

You threaten to take ownership of my daughter? lol…Come get her you vapid, sodding, communist little c*nt. I double-dog effing dare you. Oh, and while you are choking out your last breath of surprise and panic, remember..You started it.

a5minmajor on April 9, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Needless to say, lefty Harris-Perry sends her daughter to a private school. (“Do as I say, not as I do.”)

Colony14 on April 9, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Her daughter attends the Louise S. McGehee School – an all-girls secular private school in the Garden District in New Orleans.

Colony14 on April 9, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Anybody wondering what became of communism when Eastern Europe fell, just check the studios of MSNBC. This is sick and frightening.

rplat on April 9, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Go to hell Perry.

TX-96 on April 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Commmunism must break a person of their dependency on every thing other than the government…they even destroy the family unit and seek to replace parents with government. How strong can governments make this connection? Remember how Hitler brainwashed youth into turning in their own parents?

Obama’s friends, the Weathermen Underground – Ayers, dorn, etc – the terrorists who killed 1st responders, said they did not regret it, & wished they had killed more…Ayers, the guy in whose livingroom Obama announced his intent to run for office….they are now TEACHERS in colleges, dutifully engaged in brainwashing our kids.
– You’ve heard and read the news reports — teachers ordering students to stomp on the flag or the word ‘God’ or fail the course, belittling students for their views and attempting to push their own agenda instead…

Welcome to Obama’s world where he is keeping his promise of fundamentally changing the US!

I am just wondering when PATRIOTS will wake up and start fighting back and defending this country, our culture, our Constitution…

easyt65 on April 9, 2013 at 6:43 PM

MHP elucidates:

I believe wholeheartedly, and without apology, that we have a collective responsibility to the children of our communities even if we did not conceive and bear them. Of course, parents can and should raise their children with their own values. But they should be able to do so in a community that provides safe places to play, quality food to eat, terrific schools to attend, and economic opportunities to support them. No individual household can do that alone. We have to build that world together.

I agree with every word of this?

Why don’t you?

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

It’s the parents who make up the community. This woman is ever so creepily treating the two (the “community” and the people who constitute it) as separate entities.

If she weren’t, there would be no need to make (or “clarify”) this statement at all.

TouchingTophet on April 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

It’s the parents who make up the community.

Really? Only the parents? What about everybody else who lives in the community?

This woman is ever so creepily treating the two (the “community” and the people who constitute it) as separate entities.

Nonsesnse, she’s doing no such thing.

If she weren’t, there would be no need to make (or “clarify”) this statement at all.

TouchingTophet on April 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM

She had to clarify because of the right-wing freakout over the word “collective”. Notice, she didn’t take back a word of her initial ad. In fact, she doubled-down brilliantly.

Again, I challenge you or anyone else to disagree with one word of the quote I posted.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Really? Only the parents? What about everybody else who lives in the community?

I didn’t say only the parents.

Nonsesnse, she’s doing no such thing.

How convincing.

Let’s bring back the quotation you find so endearing:

I believe wholeheartedly, and without apology, that we have a collective responsibility to the children of our communities even if we did not conceive and bear them. Of course, parents can and should raise their children with their own values. But they should be able to do so in a community that provides safe places to play, quality food to eat, terrific schools to attend, and economic opportunities to support them. No individual household can do that alone. We have to build that world together.

The boldface parts are especially nauseating. Harris-Perry has no knowledge whatsoever of what the “communities” she’s talking about actually want for their children, nor of what’s good for those children. Her idea of “quality food to eat” is likely complete nonsense; ditto her idea of “terrific” schools (though, apparently, she’s not so fond of public ones, so maybe I’ll give her a break…). To insinuate herself (the first “we”) into how people, or even “communities,” raise their children rightfully curls upper lips across the country. Same with “we have to”; no, you don’t have to do anything save mind your own business and keep your nose out of ours.

The kindest interpretation of Perry based on this statement is an out-of-touch, bobble-headed moron wagging her finger at people she can’t hope to – indeed, doesn’t want to – understand. The more realistic one is a power-grubbing busybody who purports to know better than you do what’s good for your children, and is prepared to act on that ersatz knowledge whether you like it or not.

The decidedly un-realistic interpretation is someone who really, truly cares about the children – because if that were the case, she’d have said, “I believe wholeheartedly, and without apology, that communities have a collective responsibility for their own children” and left it at that.

TouchingTophet on April 9, 2013 at 11:55 PM

Go ahead and try to raise my kid for me.

There’s an axe for that.

Sponge on April 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

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