Massachusetts man facing charges after shooting bear in self-defense in his yard

posted at 10:01 pm on April 8, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Reason:

Richard Ahlstrand, of Auburn, Massachusetts, faces criminal charges after encountering a bear in his back yard and shooting the damned thing to avoid being mauled or eaten. Specifically, as noted at Reason 24/7, he’s charged with “illegally killing a bear, illegally baiting a bear, illegal possession of a firearm and failure to secure a firearm.” All of these charges, once translated from Massachusetts to American, seem to stack up to outrage that Ahlstrand didn’t make his yard completely inhospitable to animals that are rarely seen in the area, and then investigated a suspicious noise with a weapon in hand rather than cower under the bed. Worst of all, he actually defended himself when he encountered danger.

The baiting charge, as J.D. Tucille notes, comes from the fact that Ahlstrand had a large barrel of birdseed in his yard, even though it was not meant to bait a bear, and bears are rarely seen in the area.

The police account, with a hint of contempt for a 76-year-old having the temerity to defend himself:

Chief Sluckis said the bear is believed to have been attracted to a 50-gallon drum of birdseed Mr. Ahlstrand had in his backyard. He said Mr. Ahlstrand told police he heard a noise outside and felt in fear of his life.

“He went back inside, retrieved a shotgun and decided to shoot the bear,” Chief Sluckis said. “Obviously we believe if Mr. Ahlstrand was truly in fear for his life he would have stayed secured in his home and would have called the police.”

There’s that indomitable spirit of ’76 embodied. Hide in your house at all costs, people, “dial 911 and then curl into a fetal position whenever they hear a curious noise.”

Via CBS Boston, a 300-400-lb bear began chasing him before he went inside to get his gun.

The feds dropped charges filed against an Idaho man in 2011 for a similar “crime,” amidst public protest and urging by the governor of Idaho. Jeremy Hill’s children were playing in his yard when a grizzly bear showed up. Yelling to warn his children, but unable to confirm they were all out of the bear’s range, Hill grabbed his daughter’s shotgun to protect the family. He then immediately reported his “crime” to the state wildlife authorities. This is the government’s take on that:

Although hunting of grizzlies is generally prohibited under the Endangered Species Act, the law allows the animals to be killed if they are a threat to human life.

Federal prosecutors said in a statement that wildlife investigators were unable to pinpoint where the Hill children were when three grizzlies appeared about 40 yards from the family home. When the bears neared a pig pen, Hill fired the first of three rounds at the closest of the bruins, according to statements by the government and by Hill.

“By the time Mr. Hill fired the final shot, he was aware that all of his children and his wife were inside of their house,” according to the prosecutors’ statement.

Hill said he fired the third and fatal shot because he thought “it would be very dangerous to leave the bear wounded, possibly posing a threat to others.”

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He should have vomitted on it…… Or at least pee`d

ThePrez on April 8, 2013 at 10:03 PM

The feds dropped charges filed against an Idaho man in 2011 for a similar “crime,” amidst public protest and urging by the governor of Idaho.

After it cost him 10′s of thousands in attorney fees.

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Was it a pedo-bear?

John the Libertarian on April 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

He should have just vomited on the bear. Or farted in his general direction.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

He should have vomitted on it…… Or at least pee`d

ThePrez on April 8, 2013 at 10:03 PM

I hear scissors can be used if you are low on groceries and recently drained yourself.

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:05 PM

And we all know how much bears LOVE bird seed!

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

It’s Massachusetts, where even the cops are bumbleheaded morons you wouldn’t trust to mow your lawn, what do you expect?

Except for this 76 year old man, apparently everyone in the state looks to some form of government for help with everything, no wonder they produce drunken, murdering douchebag senators.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

…thank gawd it wasn’t a Lion!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

This is insanity. Morons, imbeciles, and ignoramuses at every level of power working to destroy citizens. The judge should never be able to leave the courthouse.

tom daschle concerned on April 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM

The right to arm bears?

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Reason 4356765 for while I’ll never live in a blue state.

crrr6 on April 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM

…he should have yelled at the bear…that he was having his period!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The right to arm bears?

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM

The bear is carrying and plainly not concealing it.

Must be an illegal..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

If there was a time for a Confession Bear, this is it.

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Police were called out to investigate the shooting at about 12:19 p.m. After talking to Mr. Ahlstrand, the state Environmental Police were called.

WTF, MA?

thebrokenrattle on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Lions and tigers and bears oh my!;)

MarshFox on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Maybe the guy was taking advantage while the bear was reloading…

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

“They got me set up now like I’m some kind of murderer. And then the environmental guy told me ‘You should have called me instead of shooting it,’” he continued. “What was I going to do, say ‘Mister Bear would excuse me please while I go make a phone call?’

INC on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Did he try and reason with it first?

HotAirian on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Failure to secure a firearm???

supernova on April 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM

thebrokenrattle on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

Oh, yes, they do exist. We once lived in NE and our jaw dropped the first time we saw one.

INC on April 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Another victim of large capacity bird feeders.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM

“He went back inside, retrieved a shotgun and decided to shoot the bear,” Chief Sluckis said. “Obviously we believe if Mr. Ahlstrand was truly in fear for his life he would have stayed secured in his home and would have called the police.”

Because everyone knows that in the history of bears, not one has ever done a B & E.

RickB on April 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM

How is this different from Biden’s advice on shotguns?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Reason 4356765 for while I’ll never live in a blue state.

crrr6 on April 8, 2013 at 10:08 PM

This happened in Wyoming 2 summers ago. A hiker felt threatened by a griz. Despite that the bear could have reached him in mere seconds, and that there had recently been 3 grizzly attacks in the area (but not the same bear) he was charged. And found guilty.

Jackalope on April 8, 2013 at 10:14 PM

His sin was not dying.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM

I guess the conflict resolution didn’t work out so well.

RovesChins on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM

Better to be judged by twelve then carried by six!

MarshFox on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Too bad it was dark out, the dude could have pointed towards the sign in his yard which quite clearly stated that it was a “Bear Free Zone!” at which point the animal would have sighed, gotten a downcast look, and left quietly.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Did he try and reason with it first?

HotAirian on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I can see it now..
“[caller]…there is a bear that looks like he is up to no good”

“[911]..is it polar, brown or black?”

“[caller]..I think he’s black”

NBC will do their own editing…

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Jeremy Hill’s children were playing in his yard when a grizzly bear showed up. Yelling to warn his children, but unable to confirm they were all out of the bear’s range, Hill grabbed his daughter’s shotgun to protect the family

It’s that he grabbed his daughter’s Hello Kitty shotgun that I love about this story.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Racist.
The bear was black.
If Obama had a bear..it would look like that one.

Mimzey on April 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

The right to arm bears?

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 10:07 PM

THREAD WINNER.

Wish I had said that. (:

SparkPlug on April 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Then run..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:15 PM

That bear could have ripped out his eye ball.

SparkPlug on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

The Obama years…. Grin and bear it.

Drained Brain on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

And here’s me, thinking all the wierdos lived in Queensland!

OldEnglish on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Ever see how fast a full grown bear can charge? Pretty damn fast.

KCB on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

He didn’t agitate it, he killed it.

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

You don’t know much about bears, do you?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Swell. I guess if the bear gnawed off his arm he’d be charged with illegal feeding of bears.

Government at work.

SteveMG on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

And if you have nowhere left to run, then what, dance a little Hornpipe and hope your assailant appreciates the show?

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Hill said he fired the third and fatal shot because he thought “it would be very dangerous to leave the bear wounded, possibly posing a threat to others.”

That is sound, rational thinking.

KCB on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Did he try and reason with it first?

HotAirian on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Hey, remember that cop killer holed up in a house in Big Bear CA? Somebody on HA actually said the cops over-reacted. They should have moved back and just left a couple of cops in a tent outside the house. Reasoning with the bear makes more sense than that.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Who needs three shots in a shotgun? – Libtard

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

And if you have nowhere left to run, then what, dance a little Hornpipe and hope your assailant appreciates the show?

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I am sure she would crap in her pants..
Now..
What happens then…
Is no ones guess..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

And if you have nowhere left to run, then what, dance a little Hornpipe and hope your assailant appreciates the show?

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

There is a huge contradiction between the two versions of what happened;, the police say he went back inside after seeing the bear and then came out with a shotgun. Absent a threat most states call that poaching. It was pretty stupid to report it.

halfbaked on April 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

I’ve read an account where not only did the bear get inside, but he got onto the roof where the victim was hiding.

Blake on April 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

You don’t know much about bears, do you?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Cut partisan some slack…bears are just a tiny subject among a multitude of things that he doesn’t know much about.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

Did he try and reason with it first?

HotAirian on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I can see it now..
“[caller]…there is a bear that looks like he is up to no good”

“[911]..is it polar, brown or black?”

“[caller]..I think he’s black”

NBC will do their own editing…

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

We have some hilariously gifted people up in here!

RovesChins on April 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

They forgot to charge him with Exercising police authority with out a union card.

meci on April 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

You don’t know much about bears, do you?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

No, but I’m betting his girlfriend wears one of those Code Pink Vagiina suits and he’s jealous!

RovesChins on April 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

If you have kids..
And you haven’t taking a recent inventory of their whereabouts when you see the bear..
Do you go into the house and ask the wife..
Where are the kids?

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

Did he try and reason with it first?

HotAirian on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

I can see it now..
“[caller]…there is a bear that looks like he is up to no good”

“[911]..is it polar, brown or black?”

“[caller]..I think he’s black”

NBC will do their own editing…

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Awesome. Take a bow!

KCB on April 8, 2013 at 10:26 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

…you!….would be better off squatting on a fire hydrant… sans your pants…and spinning yourself like a top!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Massachusetts man facing charges after shooting bear in self-defense in his yard

Richard Ahlstrand

Black bear murdered by white Hispanic.

Ricardo Arnez-Ahlstrand would have walked…

Bruno Strozek on April 8, 2013 at 10:28 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Actually he didn’t know but like a proactive, responsible person he did a little investigating. For all the dude knew it could have been kids TP’ing his house or a meth-head breaking into his shed, but yeah he should have called the cops while curled up under the stairs because houses never get broken into.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

,,,,Dude!…that there was funny!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

That bear could have ripped out his eye ball.

SparkPlug on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

lolololol

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Running inside endangers those inside if this thing charges, because it will do whatever it has to to get its intended prey, to include going through doors, that’s a lot of bear coming at you at a fast pace.

MarshFox on April 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Perhaps the bear was just looking for a job?

Freelance bird seed sorter, perhaps?

Maybe it was an undocumented ursine migrant from just across the border?

This sounds like a potential international hate crime by a murderous racist species-ist bigot!

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 10:30 PM

,,,,Dude!…that there was funny!

KOOLAID2 on April 8, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Thanks..
I will be here all night..
Well..
Until the wife yells..
“Movie Time!!!”

:)

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.
 
nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

 
If you have kids..
And you haven’t taking a recent inventory of their whereabouts when you see the bear..
Do you go into the house and ask the wife..
Where are the kids?
 
Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

 
Dad, why are you changing shoes? You’ll never outrun that bear!
 
- nonpartisan, jr.

rogerb on April 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Because all yards are the size of those in nonpartisan’s mind. There are no really big yards. They are all really just sort of terrace gardens in size.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Dad, why are you changing shoes? You’ll never outrun that bear!

- nonpartisan, jr.

rogerb on April 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

Lol! Nice. Father of the year material.

KCB on April 8, 2013 at 10:34 PM

The last real man in Massachusetts.

Grunt on April 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

The Auburn, MA police acted stupidly.

Attila (Pillage Idiot) on April 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

is that the situation? I thought this guy was in his backyard, which would mean his house is steps away.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Because all yards are the size of those in nonpartisan’s mind. There are no really big yards. They are all really just sort of terrace gardens in size.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM

And no bear would ever think of entering a house.

Screen doors intimidate the hell out of 9 inch-clawed rapacious predators.

profitsbeard on April 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

The insanity lately isn’t the problem. It’s how fast and far reaching it has taken hold…

katy on April 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Because all yards are the size of those in nonpartisan’s mind. There are no really big yards. They are all really just sort of terrace gardens in size.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:32 PM

I am envisioning the backyard of nonpartisan like this..
You open the sliding doors and take two steps and run into the backyard fence..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Note to folks in Mass. Based on this stoy, if you fin yourself in danger by a bear in MA, become a member of the SSS Club. Shoot-Shovel-Shut up.

MikeA on April 8, 2013 at 10:37 PM

He needs to move to a sane state! Castle doctrine for Bears!

southernms on April 8, 2013 at 10:37 PM

There is one public middle school and one high school in Auburn so, like, you know, the residents are just living on top of each other. I bet that this dude’s yard was no bigger than, say, a SUV. Why someone would have had 50 pounds of birdseed in such a congested environment is beyond anyone’s comprehension. Obviously, how much birdseed do you need to feed the few birds that bother to squeeze themselves between ranch houses and their tiny, tiny, tiny, little, postage-stamp-sized yards?

I think nonpartisan has a point. The guy clearly baited his postage stamp and was mere steps from his door. And, if there were any kids in the postage-stamp next door, well, tough for them, too.

/

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

The homeowner acted stupidly
– Obama

az cpa on April 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I am envisioning the backyard of nonpartisan like this..
You open the sliding doors and take two steps and run into the backyard fence..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

And run into bars. Bars on the doors, the windows, the garage, everywhere. But remember, cities are where all the cool people live and everyone else are just hayseeds.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I am envisioning the backyard of nonpartisan like this..
You open the sliding doors and take two steps and run into the backyard fence..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Exactly!

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:41 PM

And we all know how much bears LOVE bird seed!

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Er, a Reality Check from northern New England Bear Country-right after they come out of hibernation in the spring and are hungry as a you-know-what, they will and do gobble down the birdseed like cheap booze. Especially if it has “additives”, like sunflower seeds, mixed in. But even minus that delicacy they go thru even millet seed like drunk sailors.

Here in New Hampshire, folks like NH Fish and Game and the Audubon Society religiously remind folks every April to bring in their bird feeders, because of the bears. But to my knowledge so far there are no state or local laws requiring that they be taken down by a certain date. But be patient!

Del Dolemonte on April 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Im sure if it was Obama Uncle Omar they would have given him a medal and citizenship!

nicknack60 on April 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

He should be put in jail for being stupid enough to go out at night to fill his bird feeder after seeing a bear in his yard.

I’ve also never heard of anyone ever filling a bird feeder at night. Something’s fishy here. But let’s go ahead and find the guy innocent before hearing all the facts anyway.

CoffeeMan on April 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Im sure if it was Obama Uncle Omar they would have given him a medal and citizenship!

nicknack60 on April 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Maybe theyre afraid that people will shoot uncle omar thinking its a bear instead of the drunk illegal that he is.

nicknack60 on April 8, 2013 at 10:44 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Running away from a predator encounter will invariably trigger a charge. You have removed any doubt in his mind and indentified yourself as prey.

a capella on April 8, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Support The Right To Arm Bears!

VorDaj on April 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Funny you mention that, when I told my wife(LilaMunro)that her husband had made another terrorist watch list, she said we should move to the country and hole up, guess I will be one of those hayseeds;)

MarshFox on April 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM

You have removed any doubt in his mind and indentified yourself as prey.

a capella on April 8, 2013 at 10:45 PM

If only the Republican establishment would open their eyes..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Then run..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

And I’d pay serious money to watch.

katy the mean old lady on April 8, 2013 at 10:49 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

partisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Aren’t you supposed to negotiate with it? After all, that’s what Maddy Albright and Hilly would do.

“Diplomacy is best left to Diplomats.”

Del Dolemonte on April 8, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Sad to see what this country has become. Every day more confirmation that the world has been turned upside down.

Guy should be getting a medal, instead….this.

Glad to see the old Davy Crockett spirit is alive somewhere. Telling that the guy gets immediately smacked down for it.

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Yeah, that’s telling him. Very sad.

Dreadnought on April 8, 2013 at 10:51 PM

What did he use to take that mofo out?

WhatSlushfund on April 8, 2013 at 10:51 PM

Hey, it’s Massachusetts! When it’s all said and done they will probably pass a ban on bird seed sacks more than ten pounds.

MikeA on April 8, 2013 at 10:51 PM

generally if I’m fearing for my life of something, I run away from it…not try to agitate it.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Running away from a predator encounter will invariably trigger a charge. You have removed any doubt in his mind and indentified yourself as prey.

a capella on April 8, 2013 at 10:45 PM

That conversation is the first hopeful thing I’ve grinned about this evening, thanks.

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 10:53 PM

Geraldo said the bear was wearing a hoodie.

vcferlita on April 8, 2013 at 10:54 PM

You folks are on fire tonight. Raucous laughter ensuing from the green room.
A friend of mine was camping when a bear invited himself to some canned soup. Said friend being hungry tried to convince the little bugger to give it back. After observing the bear open the can with one swipe of his claw my friend decided he wasn’t that hungry after all!
And they can rip open your car just as easy. Front door to your house, meh!

LeftCoastRight on April 8, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Er, a Reality Check from northern New England Bear Country-right after they come out of hibernation in the spring and are hungry as a you-know-what, they will and do gobble down the birdseed like cheap booze. Especially if it has “additives”, like sunflower seeds, mixed in. But even minus that delicacy they go thru even millet seed like drunk sailors.

Here in New Hampshire, folks like NH Fish and Game and the Audubon Society religiously remind folks every April to bring in their bird feeders, because of the bears. But to my knowledge so far there are no state or local laws requiring that they be taken down by a certain date. But be patient!

Del Dolemonte on April 8, 2013 at 10:42 PM

I stand corrected. I figured a bear would pretty much eat anything that doesn’t eat him first, but I never would have guessed they’d go LOOKING for bird seed.

Learn something new every day.

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 10:54 PM

Official State of NH guidelines for dealing with Bears…

Notice they recommend a April 1 deadline.

Del Dolemonte on April 8, 2013 at 10:55 PM

And on that note, I’ve had all of Libtardopia I can stomach for a day, and am going to leave before I say something I’ll regret.

Let it burn.

Let the war begin. (a lovely tune from Bourgeois Tagg back in the 80′s; why, what did you think I meant?)

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 10:56 PM

You don’t know much about bears, do you?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

I don’t think he does. He should go spend some time at the bear petting zoo, getting to know them better

Aviator on April 8, 2013 at 11:05 PM

You don’t know much about bears, do you?

Curtiss on April 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

.
FIFY ;-> Better to ask the troll if he knows “How fast can a bear run?”

We are fortunate to live on the edge of literally one square mile of woods.

Deer, wild turkeys, ooyotes – the whole flora & fauna factory reproducing in abundance.

There is a rumor of wolves … but there have been no credible sightings … which means they could still be there (Old fact: The smartest dog you have ever known is dumber than the dumbest wolf alive today.)

Everybody, including the Wildlife Department, got a reality check a few weeks back.

A car on one of the back roads hit & killed a mountain lion. Autopsy and investigation showed it was a free ranging predator – not somebody’s pet.

Hmmmmmm, those critters supposedly aren’t within 500 miles of here … but the old folks who have lived out in the country for the last 70 years just smile and say,

“Everything that used to be here 150 years ago (except the Native Americans) is coming back.”

BTW, coyotes love poodle …

PolAgnostic on April 8, 2013 at 11:05 PM

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