Emotional Newtown dad: More gun control is not the answer

posted at 8:01 pm on April 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

A perfect bookend to the Matt Salmon post. Here again you have someone who’s intimately involved with a raging national debate, whose personal story guarantees riveting television (watch to the end here, if you can stand it), yet who seemingly can’t get booked by news outfits apart from Fox because he’s unwilling to say what the host wants to hear. Tommy Christopher, Mediaite’s resident lefty columnist, wondered last week why Mattioli is nowhere to be found on television considering cable news’s otherwise relentless interest in gun control and Newtown. Clearly Mattioli has no objection in principle to appearing on TV; unless he has an “only Fox” rule that no one knows about then there’s only one explanation. Case in point: Where was he during the big “60 Minutes” feature last night on Newtown families’ feelings about gun control? I can understand why he’s not getting a ride on Air Force One today — Obama needs Newtown parents who are anti-gun for his moral-authority posturing — but “60 Minutes” is supposed to be journalism, sort of. Mattioli’s presence would have made for a compelling counterpoint last night. Where was he? Did he refuse to appear or was that segment transparently just propaganda for Obama’s gun-control push in Congress?

Speaking of which, big news this afternoon from Ben Howe:

Senator Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) has confirmed he will filibuster new gun control legislation, spokesman Brian McGuire confirmed for me today.

“While nobody knows yet what Senator Reid’s plan is for the gun bill, if he chooses to file cloture on the motion to proceed to the Reid Bill (S. 649), Senator McConnell will oppose cloture on proceeding to that bill.”

That’s Schumer’s background-checks bill, which gun-rights supporters oppose on grounds that it’s a step towards a national gun registry. Time magazine reported days ago that it was likely to be filibustered; the fact that McConnell is now involved means it’s a cinch. Can’t wait to see how many red-state Democrats end up joining the party. Meanwhile, Joe Manchin is drafting a weaker bill with Pat Toomey that would require checks for all sales except those between family members and some hunters. There aren’t many details yet — presumably the record-keeping requirements are lighter — but it’ll be interesting to see if that bill gets filibustered too, especially since McConnell’s eager to show Kentucky primary voters how pro-gun-rights he is.

Short of seeing a Democratic bill pass, Obama probably prefers that Republicans filibuster everything that hits the floor. If they pass something weak, that complicates his 2014 message that the GOP refused to lift a finger to make gun regulations tighter after Newtown. Manchin and Toomey are supposed to announce something in the next 48 hours. Stay tuned. Exit quotation from O, who’s already seeing his reelection political capital melt away: “Some back in Washington are already floating the idea that they might use political stunts to prevent votes on any of these reforms. They’re not just saying they’ll vote ‘no’ on ideas that almost all Americans support. They’re saying they won’t allow any votes on them at all. They’re saying your opinion doesn’t matter. And that’s not right.”

Update: I knew he was desperate, but I didn’t really know.

Update: There’s no shortage of examples of the Salmon/Mattioli phenomenon, but here’s another in case you’re still looking.



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However i will advocate we confiscate everyone’s guns if i had any evidence it would save my own child from getting killed by a gun.

That’s quite the slope.

I have a feeling he would advocate all sorts of nasty things.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 9:16 PM

I’m advocating something in return, but I won’t spell it out. Not just here, not just now.

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction that does not belong in our streets.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM

So, then, you are prepared to argue that Saddam and Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction. Right?

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM

HAL is even more unhinged than usual tonight. He must be getting extra cash from his handlers for the idiocy he spews forth.

H.E. Pennypacker on April 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I think they all got their checks/talking points in the mail today; the libtards are definitely out in force, and in rare form today. Just about every thread.

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 9:20 PM

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

‘Sawed’ off shotguns are also illegal.

So…

catmman on April 8, 2013 at 9:20 PM

Wrong Miss U.K. My child trumps everything. Your’s may not but mine does.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:06 PM

His rights do not trump those of 310 million Americans…and, by the way, I am an American citizen now.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Anyway,in my neighborhood, we have been losing kids to gun violence for decades. I bet you have never seen a little kid choking in his own blood 10 seconds after being shot in the neck.

I bet you have never seen a kid’s head completely blown off with a sawed off shot gun. I HAVE.

Then again, it was only a matter of time before the violence affected not only the urban communities but also the “gated” communities.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

.
That doesn’t give you any more credence than those of us who haven’t had the displeasure of that experience.

The fault is still with the individual shooter(s), and NOT the availability of the guns.

listens2glenn on April 8, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Interesting,right out of the Gate,the Hopey
Circus began,er,beginned,er,sumpiN!

White House gun control proposals

@markknoller tweeted:

markknoller

Pres Obama being introduced by Nicole Hockley,

mother of 1st grader Dylan,

slain last December at Sandy Hook Elementary.

3 hours ago from twitter.com by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM

I saw a kid who had been beaten to death by some guys who saw the movie “Mississippi Burning” and decided to get some quick street revenge after chasing the poor kid down on the street.

I met a woman who was tied up with telephone cord in her own house, beaten, and half strangled. In fact I untied the phone cord from her body.

I saw what was left of a guy whose head was turned into a perforated, deflated balloon by a 12ga blast because his neighbor took exception to a yapping dog. The victim was found in his bathtub where he tried to hide.

Hey I know, let’s trade anecdotes to prove who is right.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM

HAL is even more unhinged than usual tonight. He must be getting extra cash from his handlers for the idiocy he spews forth.

H.E. Pennypacker on April 8, 2013 at 9:18 PM

Or extra spirits :).. Or herbal remedies :)

jimver on April 8, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I’m advocating something in return, but I won’t spell it out. Not just here, not just now.

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM

They have no idea, none, zero, nada, NO idea what they are facing here, what they are creating with their schemes.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM

so the least we can do is get universal background checks

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Tell me which of the following the government should regulated and on which background checks should be conducted (h/t Ray Hartwell):

federal government should regulate the following:

1. Uncle George owns a farm, where he has taught his nephew Abraham shooting skills and gun safety over a number of years. On Abraham’s 18th birthday, Uncle George gives Abraham a 20-gauge shotgun once owned by Abraham’s grandfather.

2. Abraham lends the shotgun to his long time hunting buddy and best friend, who uses it on a hunting trip and returns it to Abraham ten days later.

3. Uncle George and his friends have an informal hunting club, which leases “hunting rights” from a rural landowner. The “club” holds shooting competitions on an open field on the landowner’s property. At one of these “shoots,” George allows another “club” member to use a pistol George inherited from his father.

4. George’s friend asks about purchasing the pistol. He visits George’s farm to discuss a possible purchase and examine the pistol carefully. George and his friend walk to a hillside well away from George’s house, where the friend shoots the pistol at targets on a dirt embankment.

5. George agrees to sell the pistol to his friend. Before doing so he calls a licensed gun dealer he knows, asking the dealer to run a background check on the prospective purchaser, just in case. The dealer agrees, and tells George by telephone that the purchaser checks out. After hearing this, George sells his friend the pistol.

6. George takes his family on a month-long vacation to Europe. Concerned about a break-in during his absence, he leaves his firearms and other valuables with a trusted neighbor for safekeeping while he is away.

7. Nephew Abraham’s apartment is burglarized. Thieves steal his prized 20-gauge shotgun. The day after the burglary he calls the local police. They come to his apartment, interview him, and tell him they’ll make some inquiries and get back in touch. Abraham takes no further action, waiting to hear back from the police.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 9:25 PM

So I wonder,these Gun Episodes,are happening,
on a daily basis,anywhere between 2 and 6 per
day!

Smacks of some kind of Lefty Operation!
(sarc)
=======

Update: Security alert at San Francisco General Hospital over; ‘all clear’ after reports of man with gun – @UCSF

3 hours ago from twitter.com/UCSF by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Or extra spirits :).. Or herbal remedies :)

jimver on April 8, 2013 at 9:23 PM

I would say herbal stuff..
I read some munching of chips between the lines of her posts.

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Did I miss a press release? The last I knew, it was still an open question as to what firearm(s) was used in the Sandy Hook School shooting.

The matter has not been laid to rest.

listens2glenn on April 8, 2013 at 9:26 PM

Anyway,in my neighborhood, we have been losing kids to gun violence for decades. I bet you have never seen a little kid choking in his own blood 10 seconds after being shot in the neck.

I bet you have never seen a kid’s head completely blown off with a sawed off shot gun. I HAVE.

Then again, it was only a matter of time before the violence affected not only the urban communities but also the “gated” communities.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Maybe, you should go to work in your own neighborhood. Sounds like it could use some community organizing. You should go house to house and confiscate all the guns. You know, since you care so very much about the children.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I do wonder once again,like Fallen Soldiers,can Hopey remember their names!!!

White House gun control proposals

@amieparnes tweeted:
amieparnes

Obama is wearing a green rubber bracelet here in Connecticut. Crowd-goers wearing green ribbons. #Newtown

3 hours ago from twitter.com by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Did I miss a press release? The last I knew, it was still an open question as to what firearm(s) was used in the Sandy Hook School shooting.

The matter has not been laid to rest.

listens2glenn on April 8, 2013 at 9:26 PM

They need to find the most advantageous response and THAT will be the answer.

One of the unofficial police lines floating around right now is that Lanza did use and AR but that all of the mags were half full; talk about a meme smasher.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Did I miss a press release? The last I knew, it was still an open question as to what firearm(s) was used in the Sandy Hook School shooting.

The matter has not been laid to rest.

listens2glenn on April 8, 2013 at 9:26 PM

I too haven’t heard exactly what was used.
I did hear early on that the Bushmaster was found in the vehicle..

But since then..
It is the Bushmaster that is being targeted..

Does anyone here know that answer to this?

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction that does not belong in our streets.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM

So, then, you are prepared to argue that Saddam and Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction. Right?

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 9:19 PM

Thanks Lib, for backing into your own words.

Okay, Saddam had weapons of mass destruction!

Thanks for giving W. reason to invade Iraq. :)

itsspideyman on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm…..

‘The day Newtown happened was the toughest day of my presidency… if we don’t respond to this, that will be a tough day for me too,’

Obama says – live video

3 hours ago by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

Meanwhile, Joe Manchin is drafting a weaker bill with Pat Toomey that would require checks for all sales except those between family members and some hunters.

Here is the exact problem with “compromise” and “reaching across the aisle.” Our position is to do nothing with regards to guns because that won’t help. Their position is that it’s all about guns. The compromise? It’s partially about guns? Since this will not change anything, there will be another shooting in a few years and the Demonrats can come back and get the rest of what they wanted today and that then will also be called a compromise. IT ISN’T A COMPROMISE IF YOU EVENTUALLY GET EVERYTHING YOU WANT AND THE OTHER GUY GETS NOTHING.

Odysseus on April 8, 2013 at 9:31 PM

Does anyone here know that answer to this?

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM

You’re kidding, right? You think the real story will EVER get out now?

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2013 at 9:32 PM

‘The day Newtown happened was the toughest day of my presidency… if we don’t respond to this, that will be a tough day for me too,’

Obama says – live video

3 hours ago by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

The only way to respond to that tragedy..
It to do what I heard some politician say the other day..

Let government into your home and raise your kids..

HAL is on the top of the list..
For trial runs..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

‘The day Newtown happened was the toughest day of my presidency… if we don’t respond to this, that will be a tough day for me too,’

Obama says – live video

3 hours ago by editor

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

And the easiest day of his presidency was 9/11/2012..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Some stats that President Obama cited in his speech today (food for thought for you guys)

- 90%+ of Americans support stronger background checks
- 80% of gun owners support it
- 70% of NRA households support it

so the least we can do is get universal background checks

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Even if we assume your polling numbers are accurate, the express purpose of the Bill of Rights is to protect the civil rights of individuals – even in the face of overwhelming unpopularity.

There is, of course, a device for amending the Constitution and Bill of Rights. Ironically, those in power have done all they can to circumvent this path.

You should know better than to want public opinion to dictate the validity of an individual’s civil rights. Rights are not granted by the state, nor can they be spontaneously changed like a restaurant’s daily specials.

Think long and hard about where you wish the power to rest in this country. Individual freedom is the lifeblood of this republic – not popular opinion.

dugan on April 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM

oh lord people are back to calling the stupid rifle by its brand name. will if ever end.
*shakes head

tom daschle concerned on April 8, 2013 at 9:38 PM

I used to like Megyn Kelly. No more after that. There was no good reason to press the man for those details about “the back room”. Anyone could see he was on the edge of breaking down the entire time. The media has been disgraceful throughout this entire event.

echosyst on April 8, 2013 at 9:42 PM

323: The total number of homicides committed with ALL TYPES OF RIFLES, INCLUDING “ASSAULT RIFLES,” in the United States in 2011.

496: The total number of homicides committed with hammers or other blunt objects in the United States in 2011.

0.012%: Percentage of deaths caused by assault weapons in the United States in 2011.

~1.5 million: The estimated number of AR-15s in the United States in 1994.

9.0%: Overall homicide rate in the US in 1994, the year the Assault Weapons Ban was signed.

3,261,725: The number of estimated AR-15s in the United States in 2009.

5.0%: Overall homicide rate in the US in 2009, FIVE YEARS AFTER THE ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN EXPIRED.

0.1%: Percentage of the 71,000 people, who lied on their background checks in 2009 and were prosecuted by the Obama administration.

More than 45%: The decrease in the number of gun prosecutions by the Obama administration compared to the Bush administration.

72,142: The number of people denied the right to buy a gun in 2010.

47%: The percentage (33,907) of the 72,142 denied because they lied about a felony indictment or conviction on their background check.

44: The TOTAL number of the 33,907, who lied on their background checks in 2010, that were prosecuted by the Obama administration.

13: The total number of the 33,907, who lied on their background checks in 2010 and convicted.

Fewer than 100: Even though people, who have been adjudicated mentally ill, are not allowed to own firearms under Federal law, 23 states and the District of Columbia had submitted fewer than 100 mental health records to the federal database in 2012.

17: Number of states that submitted fewer than 10 mental health records (and there is no way to force states to comply. Thanks, Obamacare decision for reaffirming this!) in 2012.

4: Number of states that submitted 0 mental health records in 2012.

As Vice-President Joe Biden said:

“We don’t have time to prosecute everybody who lies on background checks.”

Even though 93% of ALL guns used in gun-related crimes are obtained ILLEGALLY and “assault weapons” were associated with less than 323 of the 12,664 homicides (from all causes) committed in 2011, let’s pass MORE GUN CONTROL LAWS for Obama NOT TO ENFORCE!!!

Without LibLogic®, life would be utterly boring…

PS: Adam Lanza was denied the ability to buy a gun.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 9:49 PM

Are you kidding me? The man just lost his son to a senseless act that could have been avoided and he is here regurgitating an NRA talking point…

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Absolutely, hal. It could have been avoided if the ACLU hadn’t fought the involuntary commitment laws proposed in CT.

Lanza would have gotten the professional help he needed and would still be alive. His mother would be alive. All 26 at Sandy Hook would be alive.
And if the man was regurgitating the leftist line of propaganda, you’d be calling him a hero for wanting to trade liberty for temporary (illusional) safety.

Why don’t you just shut up and sing, b!tch. You’ve made enough of a fool of yourself for today.

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 9:49 PM

President Obama’s Speech on Gun Control

April 8, 2013By Courtesy of NBC
********************************

Speaking in Connecticut, President Obama implored Congress to allow a vote on background checks for gun purchases, saying, “this is not about politics, this is about the right thing for families.”

VIDEO:( 27:40 )
===============

http://www.nytimes.com/video/2013/04/08/us/politics/100000002161708/president-obamas-speech-on-gun-control.html?partner=rss&emc=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

The only way to respond to that tragedy..
It to do what I heard some politician say the other day..

Let government into your home and raise your kids..

HAL is on the top of the list..
For trial runs..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Electrongod:Yup,now if only the Lefty “COLLECTIVE” ideas would
dissappear!:)

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:53 PM

You should go house to house and confiscate all the guns. You know, since you care so very much about the children.

HumpBot Salvation on April 8, 2013 at 9:27 PM

I’d put that on Pay-Per-View and retire.

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 9:55 PM

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:50 PM

The Dog Eating Scumbag can go eff himself. Dragging those parents up on stage for a photo-op so he can step all over them in order to enact yet another of his bullshiite schemes.

At this point I wouldn’t be surprised if the Dog Eater had Lanza’s mother dug up and propped on stage wearing an evening gown.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:30 PM

And the easiest day of his presidency was 9/11/2012..

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Electrongod:I honestly thought that,when I had seen the
Breaking News,news piece…..BENGHAZI!:)

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 9:56 PM

CNN’s new poll on Obama’s approval/disapproval) ratings on key issues:

Gun policy: 45% / 52%

The economy: 44% / 54%

Taxes: 46% / 52%

Health care policy: 44% / 54%

The federal budget deficit: 38% / 58%

Illegal immigration: 44% / 50%

Social Security and Medicare: 44% / 52%

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 10:00 PM

What I find interesting (not really) is how the trolls are walking all over this guy because he’s supposedly spouting the other side’s talking points instead of their own.

I thought having a dead child gave him Absolute Moral Authority, and as such his motives and statements can never be called into question.

It worked for Cindy Sheehan, right up until 0bama got elected and she was tossed aside like a used tissue (a bat-sh-t crazy useless tissue at that).

Which is it, leftards?

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

Does anyone here know that answer to this?

Electrongod on April 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM

You’re kidding, right? You think the real story will EVER get out now?

Cleombrotus on April 8, 2013 at 9:32 PM

No, we’ll never hear the real story because then the cops would have to explain why it took them TWENTY MINUTES to respond to a shooting at a school.

climbnjump on April 8, 2013 at 10:06 PM

Anyway,in my neighborhood, we have been losing kids to gun violence for decades. I bet you have never seen a little kid choking in his own blood 10 seconds after being shot in the neck.

I bet you have never seen a kid’s head completely blown off with a sawed off shot gun. I HAVE.

Then again, it was only a matter of time before the violence affected not only the urban communities but also the “gated” communities.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

You ignorant piece of tripe. I’ve seen all of that and worse – and more times than you can imagine.

And what’s the crap about “gated communities”? Do you live in one – and you’re complaining about the riff-raff offing each other in your protected environment? You should get used to it, stupid, because you aren’t any safer there with no armed security than you are in the ghetto.

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

So, I’m guessing that Mr. Mattioli isn’t one of the favored few props to be spirited from CT to DC on Air Force One for the press junket where the parents of dead children browbeat legislators to ignore the confiscate guns and curtail civil rights.

As much as I can, I feel the pain of these useless pawns but I can’t help but hate them.

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

CurtZHP on April 8, 2013 at 10:04 PM

“It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again.”

That’s what leftist trash would say about this; you aren’t allowed to stray from the template, and if you do then you will be destroyed. All good little fascist liberals learn this on day 1.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM

And, hal, what have you done to change things in your neighborhood and stop the violence?

Besides express your willingness to give up your freedom and live as a serf?

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 10:11 PM

but “60 Minutes” is supposed to be journalism, sort of.

Hasn’t been for years, once they decide what the proper point of view is going to be.
Used to believe their stories until they did a segment about a situation I actually knew something about.
Whoops.

AesopFan on April 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

And btw, hal…have you ever seen an entire village full of women, old men and children hacked to death with MACHETES? Not a single gun shot wound to be seen. Just gaping slash-wounds from a machete…and disconnected limbs and heads.

Are machetes “weapons of mass destruction,” too? It sure looked like it.

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

I used to like Megyn Kelly. No more after that. There was no good reason to press the man for those details about “the back room”. Anyone could see he was on the edge of breaking down the entire time. The media has been disgraceful throughout this entire event.

echosyst on April 8, 2013 at 9:42 PM

This entire debate was about getting him to break down. They’re jackals, all of them.

rrpjr on April 8, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Some stats that President Obama cited in his speech today (food for thought for you guys)

– 90%+ of Americans support stronger background checks
– 80% of gun owners support it
– 70% of NRA households support it

so the least we can do is get universal background checks

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 9:06 PM

If YOUR pResident said it…it’s a lie.

Go away, you little lying nancy-boy.

Solaratov on April 8, 2013 at 10:24 PM

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM

Unless your ‘child’ grows up to be a criminal who threatens me/mine…he’s in no danger from my firearm. My .38 is less of a danger to children than the left’s incessant attacks on the Constitution.

annoyinglittletwerp on April 8, 2013 at 10:38 PM

So hot head lib. Did you know in 2010 106,000 people died due to prescription drug misuse? How about 17,000 who die due to drunk drivers? 12,000 died in gun homicides most of that was gang related. You libtards are barking up the wrong tree.

stuartm80127 on April 8, 2013 at 11:33 PM

Watched the whole interview. Its clear that Obama’s approach to the issue is agenda driven and not results oriented.

TonyR on April 8, 2013 at 11:42 PM

This picture is very creepy.

Schadenfreude on April 9, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Short of seeing a Democratic bill pass, Obama probably prefers that Republicans filibuster everything that hits the floor.

And from the looks of things, the Republicans will gladly oblige him.

They have chosen fealty to the NRA against overwhelming public opinion regarding minimal gun control regulations.

Let them pay the political price.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 7:45 AM

minimal gun control regulations.

2A, now shove it up your a$$

Shall not be infringed, even by you godless sodomites.

tom daschle concerned on April 9, 2013 at 7:50 AM

tom daschle concerned on April 9, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I guess it’s the pious who wake up calling names first thing in the morning.

There is no unlimited right to free speech.
There is no unlimited right to free exercise of religion.
There is no unlimited right to freedom of the press.

There is no unlimited right to bear arms.

Say some Hail Marys and breathe through your nose, tom.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Meanwhile, Joe Manchin is drafting a weaker bill with Pat Toomey that would require checks for all sales except those between family members and some hunters.

I just called Senator Toomey’s office to object to this effort. If you live in PA or WV, please call Toomey or Manchin and tell them don’t do this.

thuja on April 9, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Gun control doesn’t matter to criminals, it only matters to the vast majority of gun owners who are law abiding people. Bans did nothing in previous years, so let’s do it again with it not making a difference. Right?

As to the hood, used to live in it. Worked my entire career in healthcare in it. Saw all of it. Ever care for a gunshot wound victim in an ICU? I have, have you? It didn’t make me think ‘guns are bad’ but I certainly learned firsthand that ‘bad people are bad’.

You cannot legislate away murderous intent, but you can treat mental illness. For only someone mentally ill would gun down innocents or anyone not in self defense or war.

But no mention of what would really matter with regards to violence. No mention of mental health issue recognition or treatment. No mention of addressing the conditions that support gangs and gang violence. No mention of making it a point to laws that exact penalties for using a gun in committing crimes. No mention of what do about repeat offenders. Ad infinitum.

No mention of anything that would actually make a real difference. So let’s pass another lame law that didn’t make a difference the first time it was passed and then walk around thinking that you are taking the high road and have some superior moral authority.

Everyone actually agrees that ‘something should be done’, but the difference is WHAT should be done. I’m really tired of hearing some yahoo create some kneejerk lame/ineffective legislation and then try to sell it as something to pass to prove to the world that you care.

We ALL care. I just don’t think that bad laws should be passed in order to prove that. We only need laws that matter and work, not laws that provide some false sense of comfort while stepping on the bill of rights.

Stupid laws, are stupid. Laws that keep innocents from protecting themselves while not addressing the REAL issues that support violence are also stupid.

GeeWhiz on April 9, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Obysmal’s projection is overt. His continued “political stunts” of demagoguing with emotional shills in the background is ghoulish. Offering rides on AF1 is another stunt.

Instead of addressing issues of national import such as the economy and international mayhem exacerbated by his anemic foreign policy, he agitates with emotional appeals bereft of facts and logic.

onlineanalyst on April 9, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Forgive me, but I believe the Newtown parents who are illogically and in defiance of common sense pursuing measures which penalize legal gun owners have lost an incredible amount of goodwill.

Certainly, one can only begin to appreciate the situation they are in. Their emotions, their utter devastation, the hopelessness and hole in their heart that will never be filled. That they live at all and function is inconceivable to me.

But at this point they owe it to themselves, their children and our country to be rational, informed, wise in their actions and to not be dupes of any particular political philosophy. They should lead where rational, cogent, understandable, provable and legal measures take them.

Otherwise their efforts are not only in vain, but do nothing to help the cause of others who are subject to similar dangers.

Mr Mattioli seems to be the only rational voice I’ve heard so far.

God Bless.

Marcus Traianus on April 9, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I support and respect the right of every law abiding citizen to own a gun.

LIAR

However i will advocate we confiscate everyone’s guns if i had any evidence it would save my own child from getting killed by a gun.

Stealing is a crime. What would have saved those kids lives in Newtown would be the ABSENCE of “Gun Free Zone” signs, and teachers/admins allowed to voluntarily conceal carry. Those are things that I advocate for, and that WOULD have prevented much of the tragedy. Having more guns causes crime to decrease… that is a FACT.

If you were moral, and truthful, and actually cared… you would advocate for measures that would have actually prevented the tragedy. But you deal in meaningless talking points to back the power-hungry socialists you’ve elected. And you use this tragedy to further your politicians’ ambitions.

Some may consider that extreme but my own child’s life trumps any constitution you all can dream of.

It is a conservative belief that all people, even kids, have a right to life. It is liberal ideology that denies that right. So why do you cling to evil liberal ideology while professing its exact opposite beliefs? Could it be you are morally confused….?

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction

Sooooo… Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction there?

that does not belong in our streets. You would think he would be wise to avoid regurgitating an NRA talking point.

Actually, firearms with appropriate training would make for a very civilized society. And the NRA is an organization that gets its funding from individuals that support gun rights, and use the organization to speak for them. You are regurgitating liberal talking points that have no basis in fact or logic.

Earth to Mr. Matolli, the NRA, Fox News and their far right wing supporters do not care about you or your son. They only want to sell guns. Period.

LIAR! We are the ones that say everyone should be able to defend themselves and others from those who would do violence upon them. You would merely CONTINUE the victimization by making even more defenseless targets for criminals to prey upon. But maybe that is what really fuels your liberal agenda… ruling over defenseless people.

HotAirLibIdiot on April 8, 2013 at 8:57 PM

dominigan on April 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

Which means…..what?

While any of these rights may not be “unlimited”, it’s through discussion we find where they are.

Who’s going to determine the limits of freedom? You?

Overwhelming public opinion? Where? The NRA is winning the fight. I have my proof, you have yours.

Sorry, all voices have to be brought to the table to discuss this. Censorship is tyranny, pure and simple.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction

Sooooo… Iraq DID have weapons of mass destruction there?

dominigan on April 9, 2013 at 9:33 AM

U got it dominigan.

This is where the argument goes off the rails. Overreach, classic liberal mistake.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

A very very misguided and ignorant man.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Why?

NotCoach on April 9, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Say some Hail Marys and breathe through your nose, tom.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 8:19 AM

So says the flaming hypocrite who will – upon orders from its leftist masters – happily denigrate Christians.

(Notice how the trolls are inserting appeals to God in their anti-American rants.)

Solaratov on April 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

A very very misguided and ignorant man.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 8:20 PM

A despicable, disgraceful comment. Would you say so to this man’s face, HAL? I doubt it.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on April 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

(Notice how the trolls are inserting appeals to God in their anti-American rants.)

Solaratov on April 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

It’s classic libwit projection. Much in the same manner they talk about “gun safety” while denigrating the NRA, and talk about “if it could save just one child’s life” while talking about how important abortion is.

/ptooey

gryphon202 on April 9, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Which means…..what?

While any of these rights may not be “unlimited”, it’s through discussion we find where they are.

Who’s going to determine the limits of freedom? You?

Actually, we elect representatives to have that discussion, in addition to public discourse. So why are Senate Republican threatening to filibuster, which means there won’t even be a discussion or a vote?

Overwhelming public opinion? Where? The NRA is winning the fight. I have my proof, you have yours.

No, you’re not entitled to your own facts. The polls are clear on public sentiment towards universal background checks.

Sorry, all voices have to be brought to the table to discuss this. Censorship is tyranny, pure and simple.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2013 at 9:35 AM

I agree. I think Mattioli’s voice should be heard.

And I think the Senate owes the American people a vote on gun control legislation.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

A despicable, disgraceful comment. Would you say so to this man’s face, HAL? I doubt it.

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on April 9, 2013 at 10:03 AM

None of his posts have any substance. Nothing to support his purely emotional premise that somehow tougher gun laws would stop the Newton massacre. Forget the fact that Connecticut already had an AW ban. Forget the fact that Lanza stole the weapons he used. Forget the fact that banning guns outright did nothing to reduce violent deaths in the UK and Australia, but instead violent crime in general skyrocketed. The only thing he has is some misguided emotional conviction that something must be done.

NotCoach on April 9, 2013 at 10:13 AM

And I think the Senate owes the American people a vote on gun control legislation.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Until the 2nd amendment is overturned with another properly ratified amendment, I will not recognize the validity of such a vote.

gryphon202 on April 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Until the 2nd amendment is overturned with another properly ratified amendment, I will not recognize the validity of such a vote.

gryphon202 on April 9, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Whether you personally recognize the actions of the Senate is irrelevant.

But I’m sure your display of fist-shaking defiance will make you feel better.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM

Which means…..what?

While any of these rights may not be “unlimited”, it’s through discussion we find where they are.

Who’s going to determine the limits of freedom? You?

Actually, we elect representatives to have that discussion, in addition to public discourse. So why are Senate Republican threatening to filibuster, which means there won’t even be a discussion or a vote?

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Based upon this, you must hate the Democrats for the hundreds of filibusters under George Bush.

Filibusters skyrocket under George Bush.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Yesterday:

no one ever claimed reducing guns will reduce crime. hth

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 5:18 PM

Than why ban them?

SWalker on April 8, 2013 at 5:24 PM

reduce deaths.

guns allow one coward to kill too many too easily. guns allow one to detach oneself from the consequence as I just pull a trigger.

if i have to stab you, its much harder both physically and mentally. it’ll deter alot of these nuts as guns make them feel powerful.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Today:

At Least 14 People Stabbed at College in Northwest Houston

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Say some Hail Marys

I’m not catholic reprobate.

Bring an amendment reprobate.

Jog off reprobate.

tom daschle concerned on April 9, 2013 at 2:43 PM

reduce deaths.

guns allow one coward to kill too many too easily. guns allow one to detach oneself from the consequence as I just pull a trigger.

if i have to stab you, its much harder both physically and mentally. it’ll deter alot of these nuts as guns make them feel powerful.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM

Today:

At Least 14 People Stabbed at College in Northwest Houston

Resist We Much on April 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Seems like it’s the liberals week to shove their feet in their mouths.

itsspideyman on April 9, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Oh, hell – a french fry just flew out of my mouth.

I haven’t eaten french fries in five years.

(apologies to a comic whose name escapes me)

Midas on April 8, 2013 at 9:05 PM

Bobby Thompson, I thought.

bmmg39 on April 9, 2013 at 3:25 PM

I strongly suspect that Mr. Mattioli will not be getting a ride on Air Force One.

tballard on April 9, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Whether you personally recognize the actions of the Senate is irrelevant.

But I’m sure your display of fist-shaking defiance will make you feel better.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013 at 10:42 AM

If my failure to accept the senate’s validity is irrelevant, how come your acceptance of it is any more relevant? I have the 2nd amendment. What’s your rationale?

gryphon202 on April 9, 2013 at 5:40 PM

SHALL

NOT

BE

INFRINGED!

TX-96 on April 9, 2013 at 6:28 PM

a sawed off shot gun.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Joe Biden’s your man.

BTW don’t call me surprised that you live in a cesspool. You’re garbage.

CW on April 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Anyway,in my neighborhood, we have been losing kids to gun violence for decades. I bet you have never seen a little kid choking in his own blood 10 seconds after being shot in the neck.

I bet you have never seen a kid’s head completely blown off with a sawed off shot gun. I HAVE.

Then again, it was only a matter of time before the violence affected not only the urban communities but also the “gated” communities.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013

This dope doesn’t need more gun control, he needs some quality luggage so he can move from the Hell-Hole he forces his children to live in.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 8:56 AM

guns allow one coward to kill too many too easily. guns allow one to detach oneself from the consequence as I just pull a trigger.

if i have to stab you, its much harder both physically and mentally. it’ll deter alot of these nuts as guns make them feel powerful.

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013

How do you know so much about what it’s like killing people?

Personally, I think you’re just full of crap.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 8:58 AM

so the least we can do is get universal background checks

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013

On its face, asking someone if they are against universal background checks, is like asking if they are against puppies and kittens.

However, upon closer inspection, you will discover, puppies and kittens crap all over the place.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Some stats that President Obama cited in his speech today (food for thought for you guys)

- 90%+ of Americans support stronger background checks
- 80% of gun owners support it
- 70% of NRA households support it

so the least we can do is get universal background checks

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013

You probably still believe B.O. when he says 40% of all gun sales go without background checks.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:13 AM

I guess it’s the pious who wake up calling names first thing in the morning.

There is no unlimited right to free speech.
There is no unlimited right to free exercise of religion.
There is no unlimited right to freedom of the press.

There is no unlimited right to bear arms.

Say some Hail Marys and breathe through your nose, tom.

chumpThreads on April 9, 2013

I was unaware we had a Constitutional scholar posting here.

Btw, you left out the right to vote is also not unlimited. This is why we can demand voters identify themselves with a valid picture I.D. before they vote.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:17 AM

I want this guy to look at one of the parents of the dead kids at Newtown in the eyes and ask them if they understand what loss is

nonpartisan on April 8, 2013

Understanding loss is irrelevent to this conversation.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:19 AM

I pray this man sees the light someday. He is seriously misguided. May God be with him and his family.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013

Translation: I hope this POS dies.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:22 AM

Are you kidding me? The man just lost his son to a senseless act that could have been avoided and he is here regurgitating an NRA talking point… This man needs serious help. Bet you he is a tea partier. Your son was just killed by an assault weapon that could have been banned if we had politicians who weren’t NRA puppets. Chill with the crazy “guns for anybody who wants one” meme for a second.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013

When they were handing out the brains, HAL kept going back to the a-hole counter.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction that does not belong in our streets. You would think he would be wise to avoid regurgitating an NRA talking point.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013

Note to HAL: The new term is “weapon of war”

Thanks.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Once again, this man just lost his son to a weapon of mass destruction that does not belong in our streets. You would think he would be wise to avoid regurgitating an NRA talking point.

HotAirLib on April 8, 2013

When will your puny little mind realize it’s criminals and crazy people who don’t belong on our streets?

Well perhaps when you stop distracting it by looking at shiny things.

JackM on April 10, 2013 at 9:43 AM

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