Army Reserve training material: Evangelicals, Catholics are extremist groups

posted at 12:41 pm on April 8, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

This one earns the coveted Duke University triple facepalm, the highest honor we can award for self-beclowning.  An Army Reserve training class attempted to instruct soldiers on the various extremist groups of the world, dutifully noting al-”Quaeda,” with which the US armed forces are at war, and Hamas, which the State Department lists as a terrorist organization.  Both of those, however, come below a couple of extremist groups so fringe that only about 60 million Americans count themselves among their ranks:

army-extremism

A slideshow presentation shown to US Army Reserve recruits classifies Christians, including both evangelicals and Roman Catholics, as religious extremists, placing them in the same category as skinheads, the Ku Klux Klan, Hamas and Al Qaeda.

The presentation also warned that members of the military are prohibited from taking leadership roles in any organization the Pentagon considers ‘extremist,’ and from distributing the organization’s literature, whether on or off a military installation.

The opening slide warns that ‘the rise in hate crimes and extremism outside the military may be an indication of internal issues all [armed] services will have to face.’

Citing a Southern Poverty Law Center report as evidence that extremism is on the rise, the Army Reserve presentation blames ‘the superheated fears generated by economic dislocation, a proliferation of demonizing conspiracy theories,the changing racial make-up of America and the prospect of 4 more years under a black president who many on the far right view as an enemy to their country.’

A later statement from the Pentagon said that the author of this slide presented this viewpoint without permission, and that the research left much to be desired:

The Archdiocese for the Military Services, a Catholic organization that trains and endorses military priests and chaplains, said in a release that it was “astounded that Catholics were listed alongside groups that are, by their very mission and nature, violent and extremist.”

The AMS called on the Pentagon “to review these materials and to ensure that tax-payer funds are never again used to present blatantly anti-religious material to the men and women in uniform.”

An Army spokesperson said the presentation “was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command’s knowledge or permission.” The Army removed the offending slide after receiving complaints.

The person responsible for the presentation, the spokesperson said, “was not a subject matter expert, and produced the material after conducting Internet research.”

“Not a subject matter expert”? No kidding, but that doesn’t explain everything.  Why was he or she assigned to train reserves on extremism in the first place?  Shouldn’t the lack of expertise prompted the Army Reserves to exercise more supervision over its instructor?  Few organizations are as relentlessly hierarchical as the military, and someone in the chain of command appears to have acted … irresponsibly.

Or, as Mark Steyn points out, several someones:

When I first saw the headline, I assumed it must all be a little less obviously bone-crushingly stupid or at any rate more nuanced once you got into the story. But I invite you to look at the accompanying poster for the Equal Opportunity training brief issued by the Army Reserve in Pennsylvania. It lists “extremist” groups, starting with “Evangelical Christianity” at Number One, “Al Quaeda” (misspelled under any Roman rendering of Arabic) at Number Five, “Hamas” at Six, and “Catholicism” rounding out the Top Ten.

Think of the number of people involved in the creation, printing and distribution of this graphic — and along the way not one of them stopped to say, “Hey, this is totally dumb.”

One does have to be amused, however, at the last entry on the list — “Islamophobia”.  That follows a half-dozen references to various Islamist groups, including one that the Obama administration is currently attempting to engage (the Muslim Brotherhood), and “Sunni Muslims” — without any other qualifiers.  I imagine the Shi’ites appreciate that conclusion, but since there are over 1.6 billion Muslims around the world and Sunnis comprise 75%-90% of them (according to Pew), isn’t that inclusion “Islamophobia” in and of itself?

“Totally dumb” is letting everyone connected to this training seminar off too easily.

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The Souther Poverty Law Center is an extremist group.

TX-eye on April 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM

The Clowntard Quotient is all there: they cited the Southern Poverty Law Center.

The fact that the U.S. Army is citing these hubcap thieves shows you how far the quality has gone down in the last decade in the Officer Corps.

victor82 on April 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

So are people who believe in upholding the Oaths they take. Such as the one to defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

wildcat72 on April 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

The Souther Poverty Law Center is an extremist group.

TX-eye on April 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Which we all fund, involuntarily, directly or indirectly because they are tax exempt. Despite being HIGHLY partisan.

wildcat72 on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Oops

The Souther Southern Poverty Law Center is an extremist group.

TX-eye on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Non-story I bet. I strongly suspect this was a “discussion” slide about what extremism actually means, which would be in line with presentations I’ve received before. The jist is usually “extremists can come from anywhere” not “OMG ALL RELIGION ARE TURRURISTS!”

That being said, it’s a pretty silly presentation.

ctwelve on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Ultra Orthodox in Israel?

Ben Hur on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Dark days ahead…

steebo77 on April 8, 2013 at 12:46 PM

They likely got their information from Janet Napolitano at DHS.

Dasher on April 8, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Wait a tic,(WTF-WTH),I was told,by Team Obama,er,HomeLand Security,
that it was returning Iraq/Afghanistan War Veterans,

that,… they were the main threat,to America!

D*mmitt,now I’m Discombobulated,er,confused!!
(sarc)

canopfor on April 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The Federal bureaucrats and now Napolitano have been defining Americans as the enemy of America for years now. It is a bit bizarre and high time for the normal institutions mentioned to take legal action and identify the exact source of these inclusions. There will be a name. One similar FBI list was authored by a CAIR member.

pat on April 8, 2013 at 12:47 PM

After the Pentagon’s failure to properly recognize the Ft. hood massacre as terrorism and now this, I fear the military is not the institution it was when I served.

Bitter Clinger on April 8, 2013 at 12:48 PM

The Souther Poverty Law Center is an extremist group.

TX-eye on April 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Had they existed ~100 years ago, when Palmer shipped the Commies back to Russia he’d have sent that bunch of oxygen-wasters to the big continent southeast of us.

MelonCollie on April 8, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Fortunately the next slide was also removed, the one from the SPLC which noted that military veterans are also extremists.

It’s every day now, every single day.

Bishop on April 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM

If you’ve ever read the teachings of Jesus Christ in the Gospels, and the remaining books of the New Testament, then you know that, if you are a Christian, you will be mocked, denigrated, reviled and hated.

And persecution will follow.

When this will happen, in-full, I do not know – but it will happen.

The foundations are being laid – now.

Those who bitterly cling to religion and guns …

OhEssYouCowboys on April 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM

And as for the military itself, this is pretty much the last nail in the coffin of young conservatives who want to join the army just to make a living.

There is no way I could go now. Not with Catholics being classed with Islam.

MelonCollie on April 8, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Thank you Ed, for making this travesty known, finally.

First they get the generals to side with them, by retiring the loyal-to-their-oath ones.

Then they get the Soldiers indoctrinated.

When the latter happens it’s over.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Someone better ship Pelosi and Biden to Gitmo, stat!

blammm on April 8, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Don’t forget that Barack Hussein Obama is CiC and has not denounced this.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Hagel has not denounced either.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

They also included Mormons.

Evangelicals, Catholics, and Mormons. What BS.

Blake on April 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I wonder when the Army Reserve Training Manual will include all of those who possess firearms?

OhEssYouCowboys on April 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

McCain, Ms. Lindsey and etc. have not denounced either.

Schadenfreude on April 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Now we have proof that SloJoe and Nanzi are in fact dangerous extremists.

Not sure if a sarc tag is or isn’t appropriate here…..

dentarthurdent on April 8, 2013 at 12:54 PM

The ultra orthodox may be thought of as extremist within Judaism but what does that have to do with anything else? They aren’t blowing up people.

Blake on April 8, 2013 at 12:55 PM

They also misspelled Mormon.

aunursa on April 8, 2013 at 12:55 PM

What do you expect from a hierarchy that allowed Hassan go mad and slaughter their troops?

PattyJ on April 8, 2013 at 12:56 PM

So libfreeordie is now training reservists?

Seriously though, Levin is right about this. How the Fluke did this make it as far as it did? It basically called all American Christians extremists.

NotCoach on April 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM

They likely got their information from Janet Napolitano at DHS.

Dasher on April 8, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Yup, this was U/FOUO
http://www.fas.org/irp/eprint/rightwing.pdf

fourdeucer on April 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I guess it would have been easier just to list the few million people not covered by this list.

LoganSix on April 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM

They also included Mormons.

Evangelicals, Catholics, and Mormons. What BS.

Blake on April 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Actually, they were a lot more specific about Mormons — the slide only cites the Fundamentalist LDS, the Warren Jeffs splinter and similar fringies, which mainstream Mormons have long disavowed. It makes the broad inclusion of evangelicals and Catholics even more offensive.

Ed Morrissey on April 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Citing a Southern Poverty Law Center report

There ya go………citing a report from another EXTREMIST organization.

GarandFan on April 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

As a Jew I’m not terribly worried about the danger posed by Christian extremists. They aren’t going to attack me for being Jewish. They might pray for me.

aunursa on April 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

The SPLC is a bunch of idiot Marxists.

Ward Cleaver on April 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

What about all of us subversive Zoroastrians??? I demand recognition! This is discrimination!!!

No Justice! No Peace!

Tremor on April 8, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Just for the record, the “Morman” group they listed is 1) not The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, or the group that most people think of when they think of Mormons. The group they listed is an old offshoot that the regular church has denounced.

That said, the Fundamentalist group hasn’t ever bombed anything either, and the only threat they’ve posed to anything has been to the prosecutors (a threat of hard work) who are trying to stamp out some child abuse. That group is imploding anyway.

I also quibble as not being listed as “Christen” but considering the level of intelligence shown it’s not a big deal.

I have a question: Isn’t the “Army of God” they list as Christian the official name of the Salvation Army?

Vanceone on April 8, 2013 at 1:00 PM

I don’t see Hezbollah on that list and whoever created it apparently didn’t get Janet Incompetano’s memo or it would have a few more entries.

I don’t see the Taliban there either.

Or a lot of others. Deciding to educate myself, I discovered this list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_designated_terrorist_organizations

But it seems incomplete. I don’t see the IRA there either.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Non-story I bet. I strongly suspect this was a “discussion” slide about what extremism actually means, which would be in line with presentations I’ve received before. The jist is usually “extremists can come from anywhere” not “OMG ALL RELIGION ARE TURRURISTS!”

That being said, it’s a pretty silly presentation.

ctwelve on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

No, that wasn’t the case at all. This presenter specifically said that these groups were extremists not that extremists could come from these groups. When asked why she put evangelicals and Catholics on the list; that she wasn’t an expert and that she got the list from the Southern Poverty Law Center.

She was not trying to make a case that extremist comes from all groups. She was saying that these groups were extremists.

melle1228 on April 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Every religion has fanatics but the notion of equating orthodox Jews, Mormons, Catholics and Evangelical Christians with Hamas, the KKK, and Al Quaeda is absurd.

FWIW, I’ve never known of any Jew to describe himself as “ultra-orthodox”, which doesn’t even make linguistic sense.

rokemronnie on April 8, 2013 at 1:02 PM

No flags or banners with crosses?

Oddly, the Vatican flag has no cross, yet scandinavian countries, greece, and so on do..

tomg51 on April 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

It’s almost as if they want a negative reaction. A very negative reaction, IYKWIMAITTYD.

tru2tx on April 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

Who authored that? Was it the same guy who was brainwashing fed employees that the Pilgrims and the Puritans were illegal aliens?

Just curious.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

As a Jew I’m not terribly worried about the danger posed by Christian extremists. They aren’t going to attack me for being Jewish. They might pray for me.

aunursa on April 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Now that’s a cool post.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Totally incomplete list. Where are the Amish?? The Mennonites? The Seventh Day Adventists?? The Christian Scientists??

The Scientologists!

/

CityFish on April 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

As a Jew I’m not terribly worried about the danger posed by Christian extremists. They aren’t going to attack me for being Jewish. They might pray for me.

aunursa on April 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM

I’ll bet they will pray with you.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Well, one thing’s for sure, using the term religious extremism automatically excludes the Communist rot in America.

OhEssYouCowboys on April 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

What about all of us subversive Zoroastrians??? I demand recognition! This is discrimination!!!

No Justice! No Peace!

Tremor on April 8, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Ahura Mazda Akbar! just doesn’t have the same zealotry ring to it.

blammm on April 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Power Points in the military are usually reviewed by 2 or 3 people for approval. There is an officer somewhere in the chain that made or approved that slide.

dddave on April 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM

I’m not even sure there is such a think as a Christian Extremist. That’s an oxymoron.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Msdnc news alert

Tingles will be thrilled

cmsinaz on April 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Here is the story from townhall:

http://townhall.com/columnists/toddstarnes/2013/04/05/military-labels-evangelicals-catholics-as-religious-extremism-n1559433/page/full/

Most importantly this:

Quote: Army spokesman George Wright told Fox News that the briefing happened last year and is just now coming to light.

This was an “isolated incident not condoned by the Dept. of the Army,” he said.

“This slide was not produced by the Army and certainly does not reflect our policy or doctrine,” he said. “It was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command’s knowledge or permission.”

Wright said after the complaint was lodged, the presenter deleted the slide, and apologized.

“We consider the matter closed,” he said. Unquote…

It is a non-story, unless proven otherwise…

Le Sigh

Scrumpy on April 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM

I’m not even sure there is such a think as a Christian Extremist. That’s an oxymoron.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Most people labeled as such are about as Christian as liberals are for free markets. Lip-service only. The handful of actual nutters (like the snake handlers) are so small they are literally a rounding error in calculations.

MelonCollie on April 8, 2013 at 1:10 PM

How is Islamophoobia “religious extemism?” And if we are putting whole religions up there for extremism; why wasn’t Islam up there. I mean I would bet dollars to donuts that Islam followers have killed a lot more people last year than Evangelicals and Catholics combined.

melle1228 on April 8, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Just think if some of us Catholics had “assault” rifles, oh boy!

tommer74 on April 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Can we have the person who created this wonderful educational slide fired, castrated, and executed – not necessarily in this order?

Archivarix on April 8, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Open source reporting of wartime ammunition shortages has likely spurred
rightwing extremists—as well as law-abiding Americans—to make bulk purchases of
ammunition. These shortages have increased the cost of ammunition, further
exacerbating rightwing extremist paranoia and leading to further stockpiling activity.

From page 7 of the PDF file I linked and it was dated April 7, 2009

fourdeucer on April 8, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Actually, they were a lot more specific about Mormons — the slide only cites the Fundamentalist LDS, the Warren Jeffs splinter and similar fringies, which mainstream Mormons have long disavowed. It makes the broad inclusion of evangelicals and Catholics even more offensive.

Ed Morrissey on April 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM

I don’t purport to know much about the Hutterites. But I see that Montana is suing them to corral them into its workers’ compensation program.

http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/344899

Religious liberty? What religious liberty?

BuckeyeSam on April 8, 2013 at 1:15 PM

The jist is usually “extremists can come from anywhere” not “OMG ALL RELIGION ARE TURRURISTS!”

That being said, it’s a pretty silly presentation.

ctwelve on April 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Okay, name one religious extremist coming out of the Catholic faith (this side of the crusades).

And I notice everybody is okay talking about the KKK and Fundamentalist Morons but keeping well clear of Nation of Islam or the Jewish Defense League (which by its inclusion means that CAIR should also be added to the list).

Happy Nomad on April 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM

This is what the LEFT really believes. No doubt that the slide was prepared by some leftist zealot who watches MSDNC every night. That’s all they are, depraved degenerates that celebrate death and rape. More recently the head of Planned Parenthood found it moral and legal to continue an abortion on an innocent life had the child been aborted alive or accidentally birth.

This is the type malevolence we face in our battles against the left. They have no moral code and are perfectly giddy to snuff a live if that life thinks differently than their own beliefs.

Liberals are vile cancers that spread to all areas of life to an eventual but slow agonizing death. Celebrating death and rape and violence is all these people know. They’re merely government sanctioned terrorists. Nothing more.

Raquel Pinkbullet on April 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM

OK so my post was taken down and censored… WHY?

Scrumpy on April 8, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Just think if some of us Catholics had “assault” rifles, oh boy!

tommer74 on April 8, 2013 at 1:11 PM

And what if they were also white, pro-life, veterans, that are members of The Knights of Columbus, now you are talking Scary!!

fourdeucer on April 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Oops sorry! It’s there.. my bad… (hangs head)…

Scrumpy on April 8, 2013 at 1:20 PM

I better leave now while the going is good!

*Swoosh*

Scrumpy on April 8, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Wow! There are only 12 million Jews in the whole world and we still made 3 of the top 18! That’s pretty damn impressive. Muslims only managed to get 5 in the list (6, but minus one for the “islamophobia” crack) and they’ve been in a hot war with all of civilization for some time, now – a millenium plus.

Well … that’s how it goes in the American Socialist Superstate. Can’t say that it’s a surprise.

How about that national divorce, now? I’m tired of being dragged into the third world by a retarded, ineligible dog-eater, who was born and raised a muslim in the largest muslim nation in the world, and his suicidal followers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 8, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Ya know…there have been just a few too many stories like this slipping through the cracks over the past 5 or so years for me to laugh it off. I’m starting to feel a bit uncomfortable.

Othniel on April 8, 2013 at 1:26 PM

What about all the Catholic, other Christian, and Jewish Rabbis, Priests and Minsters serving in the US Military? Are they extremists or does the Military now support extremism?

dentalque on April 8, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Just browsing AKO, came up with a few powerpoints that reference SPLC verbatim and w/o qualification.

AH_C on April 8, 2013 at 1:27 PM

And Ft. Hood was just workplace violence … yep. “Allahu Akbar” is the scream of “workplace violence” …

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on April 8, 2013 at 1:28 PM

http://jobcreatorsnetwork.com/killing-sugar-subsidy-would-send-a-sweet-message/

Look closely at the keys, the interlock-latches are in the shape of crosses

dentalque on April 8, 2013 at 1:29 PM

The end of modern Western culture draws near.

petefrt on April 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Who authored that? Was it the same guy who was brainwashing fed employees that the Pilgrims and the Puritans were illegal aliens?

Just curious.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Not too hard seeing the likes of the Good LT creating such for dissemination. Actually, the authorship is out there just by looking at the file properties of the stuff online.

AH_C on April 8, 2013 at 1:30 PM

“We consider the matter closed,” he said.
It is a non-story, unless proven otherwise…

Le Sigh

Scrumpy on April 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Yeah, sure, pal, Mr. Army Spokesperson. The only person who wants to make this into a non-story is you.

Just because this slide was later taken out of the presentation, don’t think for one minute that it was erased from these peoples’ collective memory and don’t think it is not what they really do believe in their heart of hearts.

Someone on the MSNBC thread said it best: the Liberal/Left are not even trying to hide their true intentions any more.

PatriotGal2257 on April 8, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Non-story related quite belatedly by Morrissey. This was a “box-checking” class, and was not anything like Army-wide distribution. And it was corrected swiftly. And we don’t don’t choose the targets, you do through your elected representatives.

And if you’re wondering about “box-checking”, it’s crap you assemble from anywhere as quickly as possible to satisfy required training that everyone knows is irrelevant to the execution of our mission.

You may all calm down now; the victim pose is for Libtards.

M240H on April 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

at one point do lists like this become self fullfilling?

“you are white and catholic, you are a terrorist”

“no I’m not!”

“you are white and catholic and male, you are a terrorist and we want your guns and your children belong to the state”

“no they dont, I’m not a terrorist!”

“you are a white tea party conservative and a catholic, you are a terrorist and your children belong to the state, give us your guns or we will arrest you”

“Now wait a second! I’m not a terrorist! and its a lever action rifle for hunting, and they are my kids!”

“you are white tea party conservative catholic living in the south, and you grow your own food and you hunt, therefore You are a terorist. You must turn in your guns and your kids must be given to the state”

“Oh yeah? Well if that’s how you feel, Bring it on you sons of b***hes and I’ll put you in the ground!”

“See, you ARE a terrorist!”

sigh…

Dino V on April 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

What I’m waiting for is when all chaplains have to toe the politically correct line and preach homosexuality and abortion and all the other “rights” our leftist “betters” have invented. Because I’m pretty sure the LDS church would remove its chaplains from the military before allowing that, and I’m pretty sure lots of other religions would too.

And if our servicemen cannot worship God according to the dictates of their own conscience, why should anyone join it besides liberals?

I’ve heard that it is illegal to distribute any sort of literature promoted by “Hate groups” in the military, at any time, whether on or off duty.

If true, and there is an organized effort to paint Christianity as a “Hate group” then doesn’t that basically state that no member of the military can read the Bible or have one in their possession?

Vanceone on April 8, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Ed Morrissey on April 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM

They’ve probably been playing too many video games. The Templars must be the problem here, right?

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Non-story related quite belatedly by Morrissey. This was a “box-checking” class, and was not anything like Army-wide distribution. And it was corrected swiftly. And we don’t don’t choose the targets, you do through your elected representatives.

And if you’re wondering about “box-checking”, it’s crap you assemble from anywhere as quickly as possible to satisfy required training that everyone knows is irrelevant to the execution of our mission.

You may all calm down now; the victim pose is for Libtards.

M240H on April 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

You do not find it strange that the Army would allow this to go to press? Every single person who enabled this — and through whose hands it passed without comment — should be subjected to a course on political correctness taught by a card carrying member of the NRA. I’m sure there are more than a few of those in the military whose hands are not stained by having disobeyed any regulation published on the base web site by their Commanding Officer…

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM

But it seems incomplete. I don’t see the IRA there either.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Don’t worry — the Democrats will take care of our IRAs soon enough.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:42 PM

OK…I don’t see Catholic listed in that screen-cap…what am I missing here…

JetBoy on April 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM

Never mind…I see it :/

YeY! I’m an extremist!

JetBoy on April 8, 2013 at 1:50 PM

JetBoy: tenth item down. Between Sri Rame Sene and Kamane Movement.

Vanceone on April 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM

I don’t purport to know much about the Hutterites.

BuckeyeSam on April 8, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Anabaptists. Communistic. Absolutely pacifist. Home schoolers.

They were the Protestants even Protestants hated in Germany.

Came over when German land agents started pumping up the desirability of mid-western land in the United States — along with a whole passel of Mennonites, Amish, Lutherans, and Catholics of Teutonic extraction.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:52 PM

OK…I don’t see Catholic listed in that screen-cap…what am I missing here…

JetBoy on April 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM

It’s there — down toward the bottom.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Was it the same guy who was brainwashing fed employees that the Pilgrims and the Puritans were illegal aliens?

Just curious.

dogsoldier on April 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

While the Pilgrims and Puritans were not literally illegal aliens, analogizing them to illegal aliens is actually an argument for controlling the border. Until 1565 (St. Augustine) or 1607 (Jamestown), Native Americans controlled the entire contiguous United States. They had no effective means of preventing people from immigrating here from other countries. How did that work out for them? Not very well.

J.S.K. on April 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM

“Mormon” is misspelled. ‘Nough said.

JoseQuinones on April 8, 2013 at 1:56 PM

No flags or banners with crosses?

Oddly, the Vatican flag has no cross, yet scandinavian countries, greece, and so on do..

tomg51 on April 8, 2013 at 1:03 PM

The Vatican flag does indeed have a cross.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 1:57 PM

Proud ‘Extreme Christian ‘ right here! also proud islamophobe as well….I would not be shocked at all to find out Obama approved this

sadsushi on April 8, 2013 at 1:58 PM

M240H on April 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

The army has become a joke. It truly is foolish to join considering what is making the decisions these days.

Christians, vets, gun owners, anti-tax protesters have all been labeled as extremists by this administration so you trying to sweep it under the carpet has zero effect. The government, and that includes the military, isn’t far behind the SPLC in labeling any conservative or religious group who disagree with them as a hate group.

Daemonocracy on April 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM

As an atheist, I certainly have my disagreements with social conservatives and religious folks about religious influence in guiding US law, but…

To list Evangelicals and Catholics as “extremist groups” is just nuttier than a jar of Planter’s peanuts.

gravityman on April 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM

The army has become a joke. It truly is foolish to join considering what is making the decisions these days.

Christians, vets, gun owners, anti-tax protesters have all been labeled as extremists by this administration so you trying to sweep it under the carpet has zero effect. The government, and that includes the military, isn’t far behind the SPLC in labeling any conservative or religious group who disagree with them as a hate group.

Daemonocracy on April 8, 2013 at 2:00 PM

Well and not to mention the PC crap that led to Hasan getting as far as he did in the military. My hubby retired in Feb. and I am glad. My 14 year old keeps pushing to join ROTC next year and I just don’t want to encourage the military anymore. I just don’t like the way it is heading.

melle1228 on April 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I posted a story about this on Friday. It is beyond outrageous. It is utterly contemptible, stupid and wholly ignorant. I read the entire presentation and thought that it read as though it was written by Pinch Sulzberger and the Southern Poverty Law Centre, whose past genius at identifying radicals and radical groups ON THE RIGHT has included listing the leader of the New Black Panther Party, Malik Zulu Shabazz, as one of the ’30 New Activists Heading Up The Radical Right.’ That’s right! A man, who has made statements such as the following, is a ‘leader of the radical RIGHT.’

“We wanna bring on a man who gives the white man nightmares. We wanna bring on a man who makes the Jews pee in they [sic] pants at night. He’s like black Raid on white roaches.”

“I don’t care what the Jews say. You [blacks] are the only people that have been in bondage for over 400 years. You are the true chosen people of God, and it is not the so-called Jew.”

“All praise is due to Allah. Black power! Black power! Black power! Black power!”

“We have a common enemy: the white man. And the white man’s system, his way of doing things, his way of operating. That’s what we mean by ‘the white man.’ His military, his planes, his aircraft carriers, his bombs, his missiles, his imperialism, his colonialism, his Zionism. That’s the real enemy, what we call the white man.”

I guess that it was this comment to Richard J Rosendall, an openly gay writer and the former president of the Gay and Lesbian Activists Alliance of Washington, DC, that made the SPLC push him over to the right because, like, everyone on the left is pro-gay…

“LEAVE ME ALONE SICK LITTLE F@GGOT.… YOU WILL GET CRUSHED, LITTLE DEVIL …”

Of course, I later learned that the military preparers did, in fact, get their information from the fear-mongers at the SPLC.

They cannot even distinguish between religions, denominations and organisations.

Catholicism is a denomination. DoD has condemned more than 1 billion people. Islam is a religion, but it isn’t condemned.

Evangelical Christianity is a type of Christianity found in various denominations, including Catholicism.

Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints and Ultra-Orthodox Judaism are sects. They aren’t religions, denominations, terrorist organisations, or religious-political- cultural-economic organisations.

Sunni Islam is a branch of Islam – a denomination, so to speak. So is Shia Islam, but it is not listed. Why? The Iranians are, primarily, Shia. I guess that they didn’t want to upset those nuclear talks that blew up anyway.

The Muslim Brotherhood is neither a religion nor a denomination. It is a religious, political, cultural and economic organisation.

The KKK, Hutaree, and Christian Identity are white supremacist organisations, not religions or denominations.

The Nation of Islam is neither a religion nor a denomination. It is a religious, political, cultural and economic organisation.

Al Qaeda, Hamas, and Abu Sayyah are internationally-recognised and listed terrorist organisations.

Heads need to roll.

I have some advice for the religious of all faiths in the US…and those that support them…and I AM SAYING THIS AS AN ATHEIST: You need to take time off of work, get off of the sofa, and get your asses to Washington. A ‘Million Man March’? Pffft! You need to put so many bodies in DC that there is SRO in Northern Virginia and Maryland. You CANNOT allow this administration to get away with equating you to Al Qaeda and Hamas…and DO NOT BACKDOWN EVEN IF OBAMA APOLOGISES.

The administration cannot be allowed to get away with it nor can this type of mentality be met with a ‘Meh,’ This is not abortion or SSM…even people of faith can have honest, legitimate, heartfelt disagreements on those topics. This is our government labelling whole denominations as terrorists.

Catholics are the same as Al Qaeda?

Evangelical Christians are the same as members of Hamas?

Ultra-Orthodox Jews are the same as members of KKK?

Fundamentalist Mormons are the same as members of Muslim Brotherhood?

The Pope is the same as Osama bin Laden?

It is soooo fvcking absurd, ignorant, hateful, and bordering on TREASONOUS BEHAVIOUR in my — albeit very p1ssed off — opinion.

Resist We Much on April 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The Hutts are kinda like Amish lite. They dress much the same but drive cars. They have a commercial farm and sell really great tasting chickens and turkeys, veggies and ummmmm good bread. They mind their own business which our current governor can’t seem to do.

Kissmygrits on April 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM

You may all calm down now; the victim pose is for Libtards.

M240H on April 8, 2013 at 1:35 PM

Crap training is something like “History of Artillery Grease: The Molykote Chronicles”.

Is this an honest error? I think not. The presenter starts off by saying that he/she is not an SME, yet was permitted to stand in front of Army officers and instruct them on religious extremism. What’s up with that?

BobMbx on April 8, 2013 at 2:13 PM

But of course! People who support killing unwanted babies with taxpayer funding = not extremists. People who oppose killing unwanted babies = extremists. Check.

eMatters on April 8, 2013 at 2:13 PM

The Hutts are kinda like Amish lite. They dress much the same but drive cars. They have a commercial farm and sell really great tasting chickens and turkeys, veggies and ummmmm good bread. They mind their own business which our current governor can’t seem to do.

Kissmygrits on April 8, 2013 at 2:09 PM

They are all criminals. Ask Jabba.

unclesmrgol on April 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Haven’t the commies murdered more people and caused more misery than every one else put together?

birdwatcher on April 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM

There is an all-out war on the sanctity of the Catholic / Christian faith in this country.

Don’t ever mistake liberal progressives for anything other than who they TRULY are – radical communists. They are on the verge of changing the paradigm in this country FOREVER, and religious liberty is squarely in their cross hairs.

Polish Rifle on April 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Given that the Pentagon crapped a brick gazebo and left no stones unturned to deal with offended Muslim sensibilities caused by certain training material, it is interesting to see how much they are downplaying this finger in the eye of Christians.

Taxpayer-funded double standards at work.

DRPrice on April 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Heck, if you believe in a creator, you might just start thinking about some half-baked idea about inalienable rights as a human being.

We’re a little backed up and need a colon cleanse.

Polish Rifle on April 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM

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