Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on April 7, 2013 by Allahpundit

McCain, Graham, and Schumer: Three of the four biggest members of the Gang of Eight are on this morning to talk up the benefits of “earned amnesty.” Who’s missing? Hmmmmmmm.

The line-up via National Journal:

Meet the Press hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

Face the Nation hosts Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

This Week hosts Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer.

Fox News Sunday hosts former Rep. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Pfeiffer.

State of the Union hosts Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.


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Rubio was used by the amnesty gang (McCain, Graham, and Schumer), not so surprisingly the same gang that was behind the failed Bush effort, and has now outlived his usefulness.

Rubio will be dumped but it might not matter anymore because Democrats have successfully scared the RINOs and even some conservatives into backing amnesty and a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants.

If conservatives want to block this effort that has been endorsed by Big Labor and Big Business, we will need to marshall every resource we have and primary every tool that will vote for the bill.

TheRightMan on April 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Rubio was used by the amnesty gang (McCain, Graham, and Schumer), not so surprisingly the same gang that was behind the failed Bush effort, and has now outlived his usefulness.

TheRightMan on April 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

And it’s just too awful that he wasn’t just smart enough to see what was what before this entire fiasco.

Lourdes on April 7, 2013 at 8:32 AM

interesting indeed allah

we;ll be getting the dem and dem lite version this am…

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 8:38 AM

I’m still learning Italian, but this seems oddly appropriate as to doing what’s right and resisting the Progressive’s pressure to do what’s wrong:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqgTcBlHx8&feature=share&list=RD02DflWe3ELTP4
ORA by Jovanotti

Italian (lyrics with English translation below, from this site)
ORA

Dicono che è vero che quando si muore poi non ci si vede più
dicono che è vero che ogni grande amore naufraga la sera davanti alla tv
dicono che è vero che ad ogni speranza corrisponde stessa quantità di delusione
dicono che è vero sì ma anche fosse vero non sarebbe giustificazione
per non farlo più, per non farlo più
ora

dicono che è vero che quando si nasce sta già tutto scritto dentro ad uno schema
dicono che è vero che c’è solo un modo per risolvere un problema
dicono che è vero che ad ogni entusiasmo corrisponde stessa quantità di frustrazione
dicono che è vero sì ma anche fosse vero non sarebbe giustificazione
per non farlo più, per non farlo più
ora

non c’è montagna più alta di quella che non scalerò
non c’è scommessa più persa di quella che non giocherò
ora

dicono che è vero che ogni sognatore diventerà cinico invecchiando
dicono che è vero che noi siamo fermi è il panorama che si sta muovendo
dicono che è vero che per ogni slancio tornerà una mortificazione
dicono che è vero sì ma anche fosse vero non sarebbe giustificazione
per non farlo più, per non falro più, ora

non c’è montagna più alta di quella che non scalerò
non c’è scommessa più persa di quella che non giocherò
ora
ora
ora…


English translation…

Now

They say it is true that when you die then we will meet no more
They say it is true that every great love fails at the front of tv in the evening
They say it is true that to every hope corresponds the same amount of dissapointment
They say it is true, yes but even if it is true, it is not the excuse
To do it no more, to do it no more
Now

They say it is true that when you are born, you are already written into a pattern
They say it is true that there is only one way to solve a problem
They say it is true that to enthusiasm corresponds the same amount of frustration
They say it is true, yes but even if it is true, it is not the excuse
To do it no more, to do it no more
Now

There in no mountain higher than the one I will not climb
There is no wager more lost than the one I will not lay
Now

They say it is true that every dreamer becomes cynical with aging
They say it is true that we are still, it is the panorama that is moving
They say it is true that for every impulse returns a humiliation
They say it is true, yes but even if it is true, it is not the excuse
To do it no more, to do it no more, now

There in no mountain higher than the one I will not climb
There is no wager more lost than the one I will not lay
Now
Now
Now…

Lourdes on April 7, 2013 at 8:39 AM

AMNESTY FOR ALL!

mccain and grahamnesty will try to talk tough but they’ll be right in line with chuckie

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Si se puede!

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 8:41 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHqgTcBlHx8&feature=share&list=RD02DflWe3ELTP4
ORA by Jovanotti

Sorry, it’s a weird video but it’s the song that I was suggesting others listen to…

Lourdes on April 7, 2013 at 8:45 AM

So only liberals and leftists on the morning shows as per usual.

njrob on April 7, 2013 at 8:50 AM

njrob on April 7, 2013 at 8:50 AM

yepper

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 8:58 AM

the sunday talk shows are rife with the ruling class. No bible thumpers or tea party hobbits allo.wed

Marco’s a little upset this morning. He didn’t know his role as the fake tea party guy would lessen his chances of appearing on the Sunday talk shows.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 9:00 AM

i cannot believe candy wants to talk about 2016 and hillary…unstinkingbelievable

my wish would be that if Hillary gets ALL of this exposure now, people will be tired of her before the campaigns actually kick off but we do have the low information voters out there, they’ll be rooting for her because the lsm tells them so

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Libs have killed off too many of their offspring with abortion and need immigrants to bolster their ranks in the future. Why can’t the RINO’s grasp this? Why in God’s name do they want to legalize future democrat voters? And why do we keep voting these losers in?

ctmom on April 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

As we all know, network television has been a de facto propaganda operation for the Democrat Party for decades. Let’s have a gander at this week’s attempt to cover it up:

Meet the Press hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

RINO, but faking it for the coming primary

Face the Nation hosts Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

Liberal and liberal

This Week hosts Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer.

Kook left

Fox News Sunday hosts former Rep. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Pfeiffer.

1st conservative of the day vs. kook left

State of the Union hosts Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.

Diaz-Balart is the closest thing here to a conservative, with a lifetime ACU rating in the 70s. Two kook left Dems and Tim Huntsman, Obama’s buddy.

Liberalism on parade, once again. Pure propaganda.

Jaibones on April 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Her new book will absolve her of Benghazi. The book tour will be filled with softball question. When she runs against Jeb in 2016, Benghazi will simply be a right wing nut conspiracy theory.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Meet the Press hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.
AMNESTY.

Face the Nation hosts Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.
AMNESTY, AMNESTY, with a side of GUNS thrown in by Schumer.

This Week hosts Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer.
GAYS / GUNS / AMNESTY with a side of banter about nothing else.

Fox News Sunday hosts former Rep. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Pfeiffer.

GAYS / GUNS / AMNESTY with the Fox twist, and Hutchinson, who booked him? He’s 10 years ago.

State of the Union hosts Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.

GUNS / GUNS / GUNS with a little AMNESTY with a teaser maybe about Jay-Z and their fab Cuban vacation.

Looks like another week of the media jihad about G/G/A

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

‘Earned amnesty’, lol. Orwell would be amazed at the politicians these days.

This thing can’t burn down fast enough.

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

…..and a right side of the screen note on the AUTOPLAY Tom Cruise Oblivion (yawwwwwwn, another end of the world movie).

You literally could NOT pay me to see a Tom Cruise movie. Support the High Priest of Scientology? Seriously? But more importantly, he’s the same freaking character he was in “Top Gun” or any of the other movies he’s done. Every movie he makes it’s just Tom Cruise with different scenery.

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 9:17 AM

spot on renalin…dang it…spot on

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM

If conservatives want to block this effort that has been endorsed by Big Labor and Big Business, we will need to marshall every resource we have and primary every tool that will vote for the bill.

TheRightMan on April 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Sounds great, really. You know, except the part where conservatives have been saying that for a couple of decades now, as the left steamrolls and destroys the country and the future before our very eyes.

But I’m sure the *next* election will be the one that makes a difference. Or surely, maybe the one after that. Or maybe after that. Or maybe, if we’re still having elections, the one after that. Or maybe…

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 9:26 AM

I just realized; I think I’m starting to hate this f*cking country. It’s not just the f*ckwit politicians bent on tyranny, it’s also a great number of the f*ckwit addlebrained citizens who, if not outright rejoicing in the destruction, kind of simply mewl a little then move on shuffling towards the slaughterhouse with the rest of the herd.

It gets worse by the day, at an accelerating pace, and we… whine.

To hell with them, yes. But perhaps to hell with us as well.

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Meet the Press hosts Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C.

Face the Nation hosts Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., and Sen. Charles Schumer, D-N.Y.

This Week hosts Obama adviser Dan Pfeiffer.

Fox News Sunday hosts former Rep. Asa Hutchinson, R-Ark., and Pfeiffer.

State of the Union hosts Connecticut Gov. Dan Malloy, former U.S. Ambassador to China Jon Huntsman, Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., and Rep. Mario Diaz-Balart, R-Fla.

…no testosterone anywhere!…
…the private sector is doing fine!
…the media…is dead!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 9:32 AM

No amnesty!

By the way, follow me on twitter. Click my screen name to follow me.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM

By the way, follow me on twitter. Click my screen name to follow me.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Pass.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

candy-
‘what they called amnesty (1986)’

cripe…

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:40 AM

we need to give them social security cards…but this isn’t amnesty
-lib congressman

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:41 AM

is there any doubt that if a republican was president, then it would all be about jobs, jobs, jobs.

shameless that McShame and Gramnesty are out there shilling for the left.

no honor, no shame.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Pass.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Sorry, you wouldn’t have qualified or been accepted anyway. I do have standards.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Sorry, you wouldn’t have qualified or been accepted anyway. I do have standards.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM

All evidence to the contrary, of course.

Midas on April 7, 2013 at 9:49 AM

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 9:43 AM

ding ding ding NOT ONE WORD re: the job numbers this morning…its all about guns and amnesty and Hillary 2016

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Pass.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

And I now have more Twitter followers than you have members of that stupid new political party of yours. :-p So there.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

By the way, follow me on twitter. Click my screen name to follow me.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM

…GFY!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

candy finally brings in the job numbers the last 5 minutes of her show

cmsinaz on April 7, 2013 at 9:54 AM

So there.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

…you’re the leftover…from the abortion bucket!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 9:56 AM

Liberalism on parade, once again. Pure propaganda.
Jaibones on April 7, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Utterly. Despairing.

I’ve been watching videos of Breitbart this past week. I stayed away for awhile after his death because it was too painful to be reminded of what we lost. But now it is even more painful. Remember all the talk after he died about “we are Breitbart,” and “#war,” etc.? What horsesh*t. No one is Breitbart. No one is fighting like he did. His lessons were lost. Or maybe it was just that he was personally inimitable — that there was no one who could ever do what he did in the way he did it. His ability to go after the Left with ferocious joy and with the urge to “vanquish” is nowhere to be found.

At one point Breitbart talks about how much fun he has confronting the Left with the truth. “It shouldn’t be this much fun,” he says. “It’s almost indecent.” Gone. No trace left.

rrpjr on April 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM

…here!
…let me light your tampon fuse!

P A L I N !
P A L I N !
P A L I N !

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 10:00 AM

And why do we keep voting these losers in?

ctmom on April 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

That’s a question for the voters of AZ and SC to answer. Those of us in the great state of Texas refused to have RINO David Dewhurst crammed down our throats and went with the true conservative Ted Cruz. Who by the way is completely against amnesty of any kind and not afraid to say so. Talk about a tale of two Cubans. He’s the senator that Rubio should have been and never will be.

TxAnn56 on April 7, 2013 at 10:02 AM

Libs have killed off too many of their offspring with abortion and need immigrants to bolster their ranks in the future.

Yes. The same way the PRC needs new “brides” from overseas to marry the excess “bulge” of young men they have as a result of the “one child” policy. (After they’ve expended as much of the “bulge” as they can in the army, that is. Russia take note.)

Why can’t the RINO’s grasp this? Why in God’s name do they want to legalize future democrat voters?

I tell you three times; the GOP doesn’t mind being junior partners in a de facto one party state, as long as they get paid for it, on time and in full.

As Codevila points out, the “ruling class” sees itself as having more in common with each other, irrespective of party, than they do with anyone outside their little club. They not only don’t share our worldview, they don’t even like us very much. Any of them, Democrat, Republican, or “Independent”. To them, only the regard of their fellows matters.

And why do we keep voting these losers in?

ctmom on April 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

They think we’re stupid. And our voting patterns keep proving it, over and over again.

clear ether

eon

eon on April 7, 2013 at 10:03 AM

It seems as if McCain and his sidekick are on every week. I only
know because of Hot Air as I do not watch any of the political shows.

Altho, last evening we saw a rerun of Jeanine Pero’s show whereby
she talked about the shootings of the district attorney, etc. in
Texas by the presumed Ayran group. It appears that they are in
“cahoots” with the Mexican gangs, running drugs up Rt. 20.

This is serious business. I would like more air time on this.

Amjean on April 7, 2013 at 10:08 AM

…..and a right side of the screen note on the AUTOPLAY Tom Cruise Oblivion (yawwwwwwn, another end of the world movie).

You literally could NOT pay me to see a Tom Cruise movie. Support the High Priest of Scientology? Seriously? But more importantly, he’s the same freaking character he was in “Top Gun” or any of the other movies he’s done. Every movie he makes it’s just Tom Cruise with different scenery.

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:25 AM

You seem to be the only person who comments here continually experiencing this bane of your system connecting with this site, called “autoplay”…

ALLLL you as an individual have to do to solve your problem is to modify your favored browser to squelch (“prevent”) autoplay.

There are several modifications for all browsers that would accomplish that if you’d take the initiative and handle your problem yourself instead of continuing to complain about this site being responsible. It’s your issue, you need to solve it: modify your browser to disallow/prevent autoplay.

Lourdes on April 7, 2013 at 10:09 AM

and Hutchinson, who booked him? He’s 10 years ago.

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

He’s on because of what he said about background checks. They see weakness and want to exploit.

rrpjr on April 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM
And I now have more Twitter followers than you have members of that stupid new political party of yours. :-p So there.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

First, The Conservative Party isn’t new. And B, we don’t ask for followers out of vanity and to make fun of the Palin Children.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM

And I now have more Twitter followers…
bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Troll.

rrpjr on April 7, 2013 at 10:15 AM

Well you need someone with the same joie de vive, “Happy warrior” ethos;

http://twitchy.com/2013/04/06/marc-lamont-hill-meets-sarah-palin-at-airport-wondered-if-i-wouldve-been-that-nice/

narciso on April 7, 2013 at 10:17 AM

Is it my imagination or are Chuck Schumer, John McCain and Miss Lucy on the talk shows every Sunday?

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:22 AM

And I now have more Twitter followers than you have members of that stupid new political party of yours. :-p So there.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:50 AM

How old are you? My goodness! Your comments are inane!

Vince on April 7, 2013 at 10:25 AM

The problem is even Flake, who I was skeptical of, because he wasn’t merely anti-Embargo but Castro friendly, and Dean Heller, rush to make a deal.

narciso on April 7, 2013 at 10:27 AM

First, The Conservative Party isn’t new. And B, we don’t ask for followers out of vanity and to make fun of the Palin Children.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM

I think the only way a new party will gain a following big enough to win a major election is if someone with gravitas, for lack of a better word, switches parties and uses his/her position as a bully pulpit for the party.

There are few conservatives who can/will do this.

Vince on April 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

Sorry, you wouldn’t have qualified or been accepted anyway. I do have standards.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM

To quote Sarah Palin, “If you didn’t have low standards, you wouldn’t have any at all.” Heck, most lost dogs are smart enough not to follow you.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:30 AM

And who is considered with ‘gravitas’ Huntsman, Bloomberg, not any dirty hobbit.

narciso on April 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Very true Pappy. Expect the MSM to go all out supporting amnesty and avoid issues like cost and chain migration (which could be 3-4 times the number of illeagals who get amnesty within 15-20 years).

Don’t expect Jeff Sessions or Ted Cruz to be interviewed.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM

Rubio was used by the amnesty gang (McCain, Graham, and Schumer), not so surprisingly the same gang that was behind the failed Bush effort, and has now outlived his usefulness.

TheRightMan on April 7, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Very true. And, if amnsety passes, Hispanics will vote for a Democrat who is far more Latino than Rubio.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:37 AM

There are few conservatives who can/will do this.

Vince on April 7, 2013 at 10:29 AM

I don’t disagree. But there really is no other place for us now. And if we’re consolidated in a dedicated group/party, it’ll be harder to have our issues diluted. The gop will either consider our positions or lose a more defined voting block.

The people I’ve met since I joined the Conservative Party are pretty adamant about not voting for the lessor of two evils anymore if that means consigning a core principle like abortion.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM

Closet liberal ignoramus Chris Wallace just alleged that internet gun sales don’t require background checks. The nearly equally useless Asa Hutchinson didn’t call him on it, and then agreed in principle with the idea of expanding background checks!

Meanwhile Wallace raised the issue of how many rejections are made by the NICS, so why not expand that system? He quoted Obama’s bogus numbers on rejections. But Hutchinson didn’t mention that Obama and Holder prosecute virtually NONE of the thousands of felons who re-offend by trying to buy guns every year.

I have simply lost patience with Wallace’s ignorance and soft liberalism. And the NRA needs to spend some time preparing Hutchinson or cut his ass loose. He’s not helping.

novaculus on April 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM

That 40% stat, came from a Joyce funded study, 16 years ago, means it effectively came from Obama and Ayers/

narciso on April 7, 2013 at 10:41 AM

novaculus on April 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM

if BOR calls us bible thumpers in primetime, imagine what Wallace must calls us behind closed doors.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM

Well in Andrea Mitchell’s memoir, she said that Wallace agreed with her, that the press had been too soft on him, does that give the game away?

narciso on April 7, 2013 at 10:49 AM

if BOR calls us bible thumpers in primetime, imagine what Wallace must calls us behind closed doors.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 10:48 AM

And there are fools who watch FNC because “it’s conservative.”

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

First, The Conservative Party isn’t new. And B, we don’t ask for followers out of vanity and to make fun of the Palin Children.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:12 AM

I have never made fun of Palin’s children. And, yes, I have 5 followers, which is still more people than your stupid third party you’re always plugging here. Why don’t you go back to groundlessly accusing people on here of having sock puppets.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

Why don’t you go back to groundlessly accusing people on here of having sock puppets.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

A: You used to be the absolute worst for telling people to stop using the threads for personal use and chat. A bit hypocritical for you to take valuable internet bandwidth asking for twitter followers, no? Or do you agree you were just being an ass before? (And you have savaged the Palin children in your commentary about her.)

And two: I’ve never been wrong about a sock.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM

The last time I saw a mouth like that it had a hook in it. And then I threw it back.

novaculus on April 7, 2013 at 10:57 AM

accusing people on here of having socksuck puppets.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 10:51 AM

…we know you’re just sitting there with two socks on…stuff one of them in your mouth!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Does anyone see the irony of reps Diaz-Balart and Ross-Leitenen having a major problem with Jayzee traveling to Cuba while at the same time wanting to grant amnesty to 10-20 million illegal aliens?

Wigglesworth on April 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM

The people I’ve met since I joined the Conservative Party are pretty adamant about not voting for the lessor of two evils anymore if that means consigning a core principle like abortion.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM

The people I’ve met are extremely adamant that only idiots would throw away their votes by voting for a no-chance joke party. I tend to agree with them.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM

And two: I’ve never been wrong about a sock.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:56 AM

You’ve never been right that I have seen. You accused MJBrutus of being LostMotherland. You are lying little worm. I have never once savaged the Palin children. I guess you really are as dumb and dishonest as everyone says.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 10:38 AM
The people I’ve met are extremely adamant that only idiots would throw away their votes by voting for a no-chance joke party. I tend to agree with them.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Please stop with the name-calling. I’m not one of the Palin kids. And I so seldom make serious points in regards to your comments because you so seldom understand what’s being said. I’ll try though. If I’m voting for a platform that doesn’t conform to my belief set, do you think I’m voting wisely?

The “joke” is continuing to vote for candidates in a party that will do nothing to further your issues.

PS, you’re getting ready to lose the amnesty debate and your party is going to embrace 11-12 million illegals. You have key leaders getting ready to concede on expanding background checks.

How’s your vote working for you.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:50 AM

yep. Hannity was the last vestige of conservatism on that channel. Then he took his all-american football and joined the Ruling class.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 11:10 AM

You’ve never been right that I have seen. You accused MJBrutus of being LostMotherland. You are lying little worm. I have never once savaged the Palin children. I guess you really are as dumb and dishonest as everyone says.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:02 AM

Actually, you’re wrong. Sorted out a few socks this week. Three belonging to the same commenter in the same thread. I digress.

But really, lying? You mischaracterize exchanges to the point where lying is all your comments amount to.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

PS, you’re getting ready to lose the amnesty debate and your party is going to embrace 11-12 25 million illegals. You have key leaders getting ready to concede on expanding background checks.

How’s your vote working for you.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Fixed it.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 11:14 AM

yep. Hannity was the last vestige of conservatism on that channel. Then he took his all-american football and joined the Ruling class.

renalin on April 7, 2013 at 11:10 AM

FNC is positioning itself just to the right of CNN.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM

But really, lying? You mischaracterize exchanges to the point where lying is all your comments amount to.
hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

You are a worthless idiot and a filthy liar. I have never, ever savaged Palin’s children. No wonder you are a laughing stock on this site with your failed attempts to get people to abandon the GOP and vote for a joke third party. I always could tell you were dumb, but now I see what a liar you, too!

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM
You are a worthless idiot and a filthy liar. I have never, ever savaged Palin’s children. No wonder you are a laughing stock on this site with your failed attempts to get people to abandon the GOP and vote for a joke third party. I always could tell you were dumb, but now I see what a liar you, too!

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

If you can’t comport yourself in a more adult manner, I’m afraid I’m going to end this exchange. Please just try to maintain the same standards you’ve set for everyone else. Consider not using the threads for your personal chat and vanity following if you’ve asked others not to.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 11:23 AM

You are a worthless idiot … No wonder you are a laughing stock on this site….

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

…cracked record cracked head crackhead!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 11:25 AM

If republicans had ANY gnads (a man can dream) —they would STOP going on these Liberal shows. They’re just feeding the beast—but they don’t care, cuz they’re on TV!!!

Anyway, Y’all remember Bill O’Reilly saying (re: gay marriage) that gays have the strongest argument & conservatives’ only argument comes from the ‘bible thumpers’ perspective. Well if you dob’t know Joe Dan Gorman—you should, and you probably will soon. Intellectual Froglegs is the best, most creative and fun conservative show I have ever seen.

FROM MOONBATTERY:

There you go, Bill O’Reilly. You really can defend the central pillar of civilization (the Institution of Marriage) from malevolent social Marxists without resorting to “Bible thumping.”

Check out “Attack of the 50FT Hairdresser” Intellectual Froglegs #25

deedtrader on April 7, 2013 at 11:28 AM

a laughing stock

bluegill on April 7, 2013

…it’s rather frightening that you are running around loose in public!…you’re the type of person we always read about…after the fact!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 11:38 AM

…it’s rather frightening that you are running around loose in public!…you’re the type of person we always read about…after the fact!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Go take a look at her twitter account and see which inactive commenter she’s following. Bluegill is a creepy little stalker. And a glutton for punishment.

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Go take a look at her twitter account…

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

…I’d rather look at the sweat on someones ba11s…no thanks!

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

I don’t partake in twitter but let me guess, csdeven?

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

KOOLAID2 on April 7, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Thanks for the laughs.

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:05 PM

AMNESTY

Also known in D.C. as “The Ruling class Political power protection Act of 2013″

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 1:11 PM

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Nope, it’s FloraDuh.

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Very true Pappy. Expect the MSM to go all out supporting amnesty and avoid issues like cost and chain migration (which could be 3-4 times the number of illeagals who get amnesty within 15-20 years).

Don’t expect Jeff Sessions or Ted Cruz to be interviewed.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 10:34 AM

truth.

PappyD61 on April 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

O/T: Hey Hot Air, where is the link to MSNBC’s statement that children don’t belong to their parents? Why aren’t you allowing us to comment on that BULLSHIT statement? Far and away above everything else on this site is the issue of the importance of the family unit, and MSNBC has just thrown a grenade into our households claiming that we don’t own our children. You should be posting this FRONT AND CENTER so that we can comment on it. Every single representative in the land, not just dems but pubs, too, should be asked at every opportunity whether they believe that children belong to their families or to the state and what should happen to elected representatives who believe that our kids belong to the state. Get it out there, Hot Air. Be part of the solution or part of the problem. Here’s your chance.

HiJack on April 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Now that’s weird, she abused FloraDuh at every opportunity.

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM

HiJack on April 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

If you have the link, send it to tips@hotair.com

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM

By the way, follow me on twitter. Click my screen name to follow me.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Pass.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

lol, I think we would run away since we already know what she has is baad.

arnold ziffel on April 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Pass.

hawkdriver on April 7, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Sorry, you wouldn’t have qualified or been accepted anyway. I do have standards.

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Good call, Hawk. Pretty sure it’s a gay porn site.

Jaibones on April 7, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Now that’s weird, she abused FloraDuh at every opportunity.

Cindy Munford on April 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Yes, but whenever she started in I remember Flora smacked her right upside the gills.

Naturally Curly on April 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Keep this in mind as you watch the talking heads on immigration:

Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution

“The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence.”

Only a nation of idiots would consider the entry of 10 to 20 million visitors without authorization a visit by itinerant guests or a movement without a risk for the potential destruction of existing cultural and political frameworks.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The two azzholes in the picture, and Obama/Biden are what is wrong, wrong, wrong with the land.

Rome lasted way longer.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 1:46 PM

Standards are indignant.

FloraDuh, you are missed, a lot.

Schadenfreude on April 7, 2013 at 1:48 PM

History.

An immigration of few percent of the general population has been shown to have a dramatic impact throughout history. However, the Latinos are not like the goths, thank God.

It is also a fact that an expert I know has set a number of about 10% of the population as a tipping point in transforming a nation, this is also reached by linking the new residents with indigenous groups with common goals. The fact that Republicans follow their leaders and ignore 70 to 90 percent majorities in identifiable voting blocks supporting the other party while attempting to appeal to the same people who reject them yields a smell redolent of Judas goats or Quislings and not representatives.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 1:55 PM

O/T: Hey Hot Air, where is the link to MSNBC’s statement that children don’t belong to their parents? Why aren’t you allowing us to comment on that BULLSHIT statement?

HiJack on April 7, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Aren’t you confused? This site needs more gay marriage threads – like when a councilman in a village of 324 suddenly decides he’s for gay marriage. That’s the kind of stuff we need./sarc.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 2:09 PM

The debate.

President Reagan signed an amnesty bill and a common bleat is the idea that Reagan would not fit today’s Republican Party.

Well, the Democrats of 1960 who gave the standard to the beloved Jack Kennedy wouldn’t have nominated President Obama.

Things change.

The idea of rounding them up and deporting them is considered beyond the pale. With that option off the table, the forces of the left hold the trump card. If you add voting without ID, local districts with a fixed base even when the policies of the national organization fail and are unpopular with most of the country are placed in the tool box of the Democratic party.

Conservatives rebel against a national ID card and with good reason. Democrats paint voter ID as racist and point to a lack of prosecutions for vote fraud while ignoring the fact that nobody has ever really tried to investigate the elections once done. The anecdotal stories of whole lists of the dead voting in places like Chicago and precincts controlled by “Landslide Lyndon Johnson”, in addition to the mess between Gore and Bush in Florida is an indication of problems which are ignored. A call for a public accounting firm or management consultants to review our vote problems was attacked by both parties.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 2:10 PM

You are a worthless idiot and a filthy liar. I have never, ever savaged Palin’s children. No wonder you are a laughing stock on this site with your failed attempts to get people to abandon the GOP and vote for a joke third party. I always could tell you were dumb, but now I see what a liar you, too!

bluegill on April 7, 2013 at 11:19 AM

There’s only one laughing stock on this site and it lives in your mirror.

bw222 on April 7, 2013 at 2:13 PM

The border.

Nobody, and that apparently includes most of the left, wants to turn the US into South America.

On the other hand, not one Republican national leader has come forward to call for the sacrifice necessary to defend our traditions.

Left wing friends see the US culture as being preserved with the new arrivals and Latinos here, blacks and the rest of the base of the Democrat Party making mostly economic change which, in their opinion, is long overdue while preserving the best of our Christian traditions.

But what of the growing numbers of Latinos? How ill they change things after what seems to be the inevitable amnesty?

Sadly, I had a long talk with my expert friends and all I can say is that the brochure for the future of this country, if you like the white, Christian European culture and American exceptionalism, should be on fragile parchment and have a black border.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Anyone notice the lack of polls of Lations?

Several months ago, some people I know and got into a debate about Latino opinions. I don’t know what happened to them as they seemed to morph from people I thought were religious, loved to get ahead, worked like crazy, liked to fight for their beliefs, wanted the American dream…

To being angry with traditional US culture, demanding amnesty for illegals, wanting the government to support them, soaking the rich as their gains were ill gotten, resentful of US success and having a weird version of history..

Well, I didn’t do it but these people did a poll on the attitudes I saw in some Latinos and was worried about.

Don’t expect either party or the NYT to do a poll anytime soon.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Anyone notice the lack of polls of Lations?


Don’t expect either party or the NYT to do a poll anytime soon.

IlikedAUH2O on April 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Here’s an old one — the ONLY poll to offer all three choices, and 40% of Latinos go for attrition.

Establishment RINO’s and Dems — a pox on both of them. Note that anyone who is against ILLEGAL immigration is “anti-immigration”.

Next topic:

As Codevila points out, the “ruling class” sees itself as having more in common with each other, irrespective of party, than they do with anyone outside their little club. They not only don’t share our worldview, they don’t even like us very much. Any of them, Democrat, Republican, or “Independent”. To them, only the regard of their fellows matters.

And why do we keep voting these losers in?

ctmom on April 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell to Republican Senate candidate Sharron Angle during fall of 2010:

“I can WORK with Harry Reid.”

fred5678 on April 7, 2013 at 5:33 PM

McCain, Graham, and Schumer: Three of the four biggest members Jerks of the Gang of Eight USA

Herb on April 7, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Schumer, McCain, Graham. It would be my guess that it’s another part of their anatomy talking, rather than their head.

Mr. Grump on April 7, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Chuckie Schmuckie sure has a weirdly-shaped head.

SheVee on April 7, 2013 at 8:59 PM