Quotes of the day

posted at 8:41 pm on April 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

The State Department said Thursday the United States had to take necessary defensive steps in light of North Korea’s escalating threats, but emphasized that it can “change course” if North Korea tames its rhetoric…

Nuland also said that while the U.S. takes North Korea’s “bellicose threats” seriously, the situation on the Korean Peninsula “does not need to get hotter.”

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White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said Friday that the administration would “not be surprised” if North Korea launches another missile as part of its pattern of provocations, amid reports that the regime deployed mid-range missile launchers to its east coast…

He added: “It would fit their current pattern of bellicose, unhelpful, unconstructive rhetoric and actions. We urge them to stop with the provocations.”

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Former Cuban leader Fidel Castro warned ally North Korea against war on Friday and described the current tensions on the Korean Peninsula as one of the “gravest risks” for nuclear holocaust since the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962.

Saying he spoke as a friend, Castro wrote in Cuban state media that North Korea, led by 30-year-old Kim Jong-un, had shown the world its technical prowess and now it was time to remember its duties to others.

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[A] groundswell of opinion is building within China that the nation should dump its unruly neighbor. A mainland Chinese journalist based in Hong Kong told me recently that her countrymen no longer think of North Korea as a close ally, as this is a “cold war mentality” with which younger people in particular no longer identify.

Deng Yewun, an editor of a Communist party journal, wrote in the Financial Times in late February that China should abandon North Korea. He was later suspended from his job for putting that strong opinion into print. Yet the Chinese government-run media is still not exhibiting much support of Pyongyang.

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Starting today, the Chinese could put an end to the grotesque farce that is the North Korean regime and, together with the United States, usher in the reunification of the Korean peninsula.

Should China’s leaders simply want the North Korean regime to stop launching missiles, after all, they don’t need to play around with sanctions. Nor do the Chinese have to respond to North Korea’s outrageous military threats with a show of air power, as the U.S. military has done. They could just cut off energy supplies or food deliveries to Pyongyang: They are the major supplier of both. And if they wanted real change in a regime that keeps tens of thousands of its people in concentration camps directly modeled on Stalin’s gulag, China could open its 800-mile border with North Korea. The resulting exodus would surely do for North Korea what the collapse of the Berlin Wall did for East Germany.

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Beijing wants Pyongyang to adopt Chinese-style economic reforms, as this would enable North Korea to wean itself off of Chinese support and become more stable. The United States and the rest of the international community would probably find this acceptable, too. So why doesn’t it happen?

Two reasons. First, North Korea is historically wary of Chinese influence, dating back to the inception of the country after World War II. According to Andrew Scobell, a China expert at the RAND Corporation, founding leader Kim Il Sung (Kim Jong Un’s grandfather) actually purged ethnic Korean Communists who studied in China, fearful that they constituted a potential fifth column. And when global Communism cratered following the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1991, North Korea increasingly embraced juche, or self-dependence, as a national ideology. As Scobell notes, “North Korea just isn’t comfortable with China’s dominant role in its economy.”

Secondly, the Kim regime fears that implementing reforms might reduce its grip on political power, even though this hasn’t happened (yet) in China. Pyongyang has experimented with small-scale reforms in the past, but has always stopped well short of abandoning its command-style economic system. Why? Scobell says that “they’re afraid of reforming the regime out of existence.”

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North Korea poses a more credible threat to South Korea and Japan than to the United States. But a threat to those countries is, at least in some respects, a threat to the United States, since we have provided both countries with security guarantees – a commitment reiterated and made explicit recently by Secretary of State John Kerry.

Why is it in U.S. interests to make a threat to them automatically a threat to us that we have to handle?
South Korea has twice as many people as North Korea and an economy that’s 40 times larger. Japan has a population five times that of North Korea and an economy more than 100 times larger.

Both South Korea and Japan have ample resources to provide for their own security, particularly with respect to any conventional threat posed by North Korea.

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Via Gallup:

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Last spring, South Korea announced it was developing new ballistic and cruise missiles, noting that the latter could “fly through Kim Jong Un’s window.” The North Koreans took that statement very, very badly. They interpreted it as a very deliberate threat to decapitate the North Korean leadership and responded with a very vitriolic campaign depicting Lee Myung Bak as a dead rat. Clearly, the South Koreans had found a sensitive spot, which they pushed again a few weeks ago when they released more footage of ballistic and cruise missiles, noting again that window-sized targets were in play. The North Koreans have issued a series of statements that make very clear how serious they take threats to decapitate the North Korean government.

The current situation, then, strikes me as particularly dangerous. The North Koreans have grown used to provoking the South Koreans with relative impunity. 2010 was a very rough year, with the sinking of the Cheonan and the shelling of Yeonpyeong Island. The South Koreans are clearly tired of taking a beating at the hands of the North Koreans, although I worry that all this talk of precision strikes is an escapist fantasy. North Korea could easily push South Korea too far, leading the South Koreans to dramatically escalate the situation in a way that would be dangerous and unpredictable. Taking a shot at Kim Jong Un and the rest of the leadership might sound like a good idea over coffee and donuts during a simulation — but South Korea better not miss in real life.

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Let’s say that the North decides to fire its new mobile KN-08 intermediate-range ballistic missile, capable of reaching U.S. bases in Guam. An X-band radar based in Japan detects the launch, cueing missile defenses aboard Japanese and U.S. ships. The U.S.S. Stetham, an Arleigh Burke-class destroyer equipped with Aegis phased-array radars, fires its SM-3 missiles, which hit and shatter the KN-08 warhead as it begins its final descent. The successful intercept is immediately touted internationally as a victory, but, now desperate for tactical advantage that will allow it to preserve its nuclear and missile programs, the North Korean leadership orders an assault on South Korean patrol vessels and military fortifications built after the 2010 shelling incident.

The regime feels safe in striking out along the maritime boundary because the two sides have repeatedly skirmished in the area in the past 15 years. But President Park, determined to show backbone, dispatches on-alert F-15K fighter aircraft armed with AGM-84E SLAM-Expanded Response air-to-ground missiles to destroy the North Korean installations responsible for the latest assault. For good measure, they also bomb a North Korean mini-submarine pier as belated payback for the sinking of Cheonan. North Korean soldiers and military officers are killed in the attack. Pyongyang vows a merciless response and launches a risky salvo of rockets into downtown Seoul, in hope of shocking the Blue House into seeking an immediate cessation of fighting. But far from ending the tit-for-tat attacks, North Korean actions have now triggered the Second Korean War.

U.S. and ROK Combined Forces Command implements a pre-arranged plan — perhaps using submarine-launched Tomahawk cruise missiles and Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs dropped from a B-2 — to eliminate North Korea’s two major missile launch facilities: Tonghae in the northeast and Sohae in the northwest, both of which are fairly close to the Chinese border. North Korea responds with more rockets and Scud missiles, accompanied by North Korean Central News announcements suggesting that they could be armed with biological agents. China, seeking to restrain all sides, pours troops and materiel across the border to protect its interests and instigates a secret plan to replace Kim Jong Un with a senior general who understands the North’s total dependence on its only ally. The resulting confusion leads to a belief that North Korea, and not just the Kim regime, is collapsing. Meanwhile, the United States quietly embarks on a secret mission to secure North Korea’s nuclear weapons.

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Unless North Korea wants to be annihilated, its leadership has to find a way to climb down from its current wave of provocative rhetoric. But one of the CIA’s former top Pyongyang analysts thinks dictator Kim Jong-un will order a limited strike on South Korea — as a way to actually tamp down hostilities.

“North Korea will launch an attack,” predicts Sue Mi Terry, a Columbia University professor who served as a senior analyst on North Korea at the CIA from 2001 to 2008. The attack won’t be nuclear, she thinks, nor will it be a barrage from the massive amounts of artillery Pyongyang has aimed south.

Instead, Terry believes, “it will be something sneaky and creative and hard to definitively trace back to North Korea to avoid international condemnation and immediate retaliation from Washington or Seoul.” This, she thinks, is what counts as de-escalation in 2013 from the new regime in Pyongyang: a relatively small attack that won’t leave many people dead.

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“Lets eat grandma”

Or

“Lets eat, grandma.” :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Well, I mean, how hungry are we?

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

LOL
let’s… Sorry LOL!

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 1:55 AM

‘nite, Scrumpy

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

“I suggest you simply speak to anyone you suspect may wish to commit mayhem of any description and ask them to desist. Further, I’m certain that RWM wouldn’t wish to be involved in any heinous acts, at any rate. She is, after all, a Gladian.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

If he tells me that he is on his period or if he starts vomiting or urinating on himself, I promise that I will desist.

…And, if he pulls a pair of blunt-tipped scissors on me, who knows what I may do?!?!? I might be so cowed that I’ll let him rip the eyeball out of my mouth.

Resist We Much on April 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:00 AM

I even screwed it up!

Should have been

Lets eat grandma

or

Let’s eat, grandma.

LOL! Don’t you love a well placed typo?

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:01 AM

Punctuation saves lives…….

williamg on April 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

lol

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:02 AM

I’ll trust you to manage your duties in the Glade in a responsible way.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

You trust Scrumpy :)

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:58 AM

Yep thats what I mean

Betcha there are tons of punctuation blunders in local papers

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:03 AM

Yes. I do. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Oh no it’s not a problem…like unless yer a murdering like person and might, well you know o_O

Besides it’s me throw away one… ;-)

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

. . . why’s a guy so frequently mistrusted? I’m the most gentle, respectful, peaceful guy on here, and everybody that walks by the cop taps him on the shoulder and points me out . . .

I mean, RWM’s up there promising to knock it off when her victims pee themselves, and I’m the one to watch?

Sheesh.

*Cheeto*

I just don’t know.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

‘Nite, All.

Thanks.

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:04 AM

Yes, and the sad thing is that the writer has a responsibility to use spellcheck before presenting the piece to the editor, who, in turn, has a responsibility to read the piece and is paid to correct any errors in punctuation, grammar, format, and certainly, spelling.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:07 AM

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:56 AM

Ok Scrumpy and I will make sure Axe takes the bucket off his head after we untie him from the tree.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Goodnight, Jaime. Great to see you. Sleep well. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Well, one more.

Now I’m off. ‘nite

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:09 AM

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

We may have to discuss your duties, Spark. Perhaps a meeting between you, the Magistrate, and me is in order.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Thnaks, Jackie. See you soon.

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

jaime on April 6, 2013 at 2:09 AM

:)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

I better bring the pebble for Sparky then :)

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:08 AM

We may have to discuss your duties, Spark. Perhaps a meeting between you, the Magistrate, and me is in order.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:10 AM

WHIPPIN TIME!

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

I think that’s an excellent idea, Schadenfreude. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

That will be enough of that, and no, you can’t watch. This is a private meeting… and we’re going to redefine Spark’s duties, that’s all.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

*crunch, munch*

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Mack the Knife

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

That will be enough of that, and no, you can’t watch. This is a private meeting… and we’re going to redefine Spark’s duties, that’s all.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:16 AM

He’s SO got this coming

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Opps I’m in trouble with MG and the magistrate

Hey look there’s Dave. Gotta run.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:12 AM

I’m considering a new deputy Peace Officer to assist with the various duties of the Peace Officer. The Glade is, after all, a vast place and the Gladians are a unique group, and though none are actually violent in any way, perhaps a second officer is necessary.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:19 AM

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:18 AM

That’s an excellent rendition or a great tune. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:20 AM

RWM: “Well? I’ll let you go if you pee yourself.” *slap*

Victim: “OMG THERE’S AN EYE IN THERE!”

RWM: *slap* “Don’t you worry about that. If I were you, I’d be trying to pee myself. Well?” *slap* “Well?”

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:21 AM

a unique group

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:19 AM

lol

Also, the sea is wet. :)

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:22 AM

I’ve successfully resisted the temptress. Took all my moral fiber to do so. lol

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:22 AM

. . . will be writing Jackie. brb.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:23 AM

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:22 AM

I’m very proud of you and your moral fiber and fortitude, Tommy. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Pure love!

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:24 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Dooood, I’m only giving you the same ‘self-defence’ tips the Colorado university system gives to female students to use in the event someone attacks them. Vomit, pee, scissors….

Resist We Much on April 6, 2013 at 2:26 AM

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:22 AM

Good for you. Can you give me her number?

Just kidding. I’m in enough trouble already thanks to being influenced by another TEMPTRESS named RWM.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:26 AM

Hi Grace. Been trying to mind my own business but I stepped in some quagmire. It was near the swamp next to the mire.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Well, Thunderbird has lost its mind. I’ll write Jackie tomorrow.

I mean, Jackie, I’ll write you tomorrow, if that’s OK. :) I have small and rather unimportant things to say.

. . . man, one problem after another during “upgrade” time . . .

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Tango – Erna Sack (1934)Berlin

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Dooood, I’m only giving you the same ‘self-defence’ tips the Colorado university system gives to female students to use in the event someone attacks them. Vomit, pee, scissors….

Resist We Much on April 6, 2013 at 2:26 AM

. . . riiiiight.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Panda eats shoots and leaves

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 1:53 AM

I’ve got that book. A good one, but Strunk & White is the all-time classic.

John the Libertarian on April 6, 2013 at 2:33 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Always delighted to hear from you, Axefellow. :)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:34 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always. See you soon.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Berceuse

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Nite, Jackie.

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:39 AM

Axe’s Actual Theme Song

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 2:36 AM

Good night, graceful & sleepy Jackie.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:39 AM

. . . ^pull theme song from quote.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:40 AM

Isn’t RWM a guy? ;-)

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:41 AM

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:41 AM

RWM is a GGIIIIIIIRRRRRRRLLLL.

that’s what she would say. Inside joke. (:

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Nah, RWM is definitely a guy. ;-)

tommy71 on April 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Would suck to be bi.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Resist We Much on April 6, 2013 at 1:36 AM

Omg. You ripped out his eye ball and made him look at it with the eye ball you didn’t rip out.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 1:40 AM

There will be no eyeball ripping, gouging, or otherwise eyeball harming in the Glade… OFFICER SPARK.

I have entrusted you to be certain that there is NO mayhem in the Glade.

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 1:41 AM

I know I can put a metal bucket on Axes head. That will protect him.

Then I can have a two hour lunch break and hang out at scrumpys blog.

SparkPlug on April 6, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Punctuation saves lives…….

williamg on April 6, 2013 at 1:59 AM

lol — this s***’s not normal.

Be in the garage contemplating alternate escape paths to the Red River.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:04 AM

You know, even with all the vomiting and urinating and swinging blunt scissors around, and even with the inexplicable habit of bursting out in incomprehensible Scooby talk — Resist is still a great guy, you know?

*clink*

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:30 AM

ruh roh, raggy

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:31 AM

Leave you alone for an hr or 2 and you just go crAzy eh lol!!

Such a mind Axe, don’t let it go to waste!!

*clink* ;-D

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:34 AM

*clink* ;-D

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:34 AM

Wrote you back Scrump. :) Needed one little piece of info to continue.

Also, trying to use limited powers for good, truly. :)

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:36 AM

Last am I till the Morning Crew?

Good Morning !!

Lay somthing good down here :-)

*swoosh*

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:37 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:36 AM

ok :-)

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:38 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:36 AM

Just use what I have as an example…dunno what a sub domain is lol

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM

Just use what I have as an example…dunno what a sub domain is lol

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:43 AM

Scrump:

sketchbook.ercles.com

“sketchbook” is the subdomain. :)

so:

eyeball.ercles.com, marsha.ercles.com, thewildernessofmirrors.ercles.com . . . omg.ercles.com

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:46 AM

(anything)

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:48 AM

scrumpy-doodles

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:49 AM

Blimey that place where I am at charge 30$ every 3 months!

Not having that…

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:50 AM

Now I am hungry!

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:51 AM

scrumpy-doodles

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:49 AM

:) Have it up in an hour. You sure not just doodles? or just scrumpy? Anyway, have it up in an hour with scrumpy-doodles unless interrupted. :)

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 3:53 AM

I am partial to that…scrumpy-doodles :-)

You can email me, are you gonna stay up and do this?

That’s dedication my friend thank you! :-)

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:58 AM

But now I am sufficiently tired…

God Bless you and thanks again!

*swoosh*

Scrumpy on April 6, 2013 at 3:59 AM

ruh roh, i ret resist’s a-reap

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 6:25 AM

rope rer reye’s ro kay

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Dire Straits was here..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

No wonder I rarely come here on Friday nights, this place turns into “Dusk Till Dawn”.

Bishop on April 5, 2013 at 10:13 PM

roflmao!!..That is hilarious..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 7:51 AM

Happy Saturday, boys and girls!

O/T: “Living in This Age of Selfishness” My Take.

kingsjester on April 6, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Dire Straits was here..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Was not. And I looked!

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 8:11 AM

kingsjester on April 6, 2013 at 7:59 AM

Profound observation. Yet another way the influence of Dads is missed in our current culture. Children who grow up watching 2 adults, man and woman, treat each other with generosity and kindness learn that strong people don’t bully, they serve.

indypat on April 6, 2013 at 8:30 AM

lol . . . I re-read it. Bishop’s right.

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

indypat on April 6, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on April 6, 2013 at 8:32 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

LoLz..:)

PS..Hopefully I back tonight..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Axe on April 6, 2013 at 8:31 AM

LoLz..:)

PS..Hopefully I will be back tonight..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 9:12 AM

Fixed..:)

Dire Straits on April 6, 2013 at 9:19 AM

kingsjester on April 6, 2013 at 7:59 AM

…excellent!

KOOLAID2 on April 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

KOOLAID2 on April 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on April 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM

Jeebus H. …
How many silly posts must one navigate to get past this nighttime chat room?
No Opinion on the TOPIC – Go to FaceBook.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on April 6, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Bishop was always right and Karl Magnus just found out.

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Schadenfreude on April 6, 2013 at 2:05 PM

;)

thatsafactjack on April 6, 2013 at 3:41 PM

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