Associated Press: By the way, we’re revising the term “Islamist” now too

posted at 6:01 pm on April 5, 2013 by Allahpundit

They’re not dropping it altogether, the way they did with “illegal immigrant.” They’re fine-tuning it to draw a distinction between jihadists, who wage war to spread rule by Islamic law, and people like Erdogan and Mohammed Morsi, who for strategic reasons favor spreading rule by Islamic law through political means. With occasional notable exceptions.

Here’s a devil’s-dictionary rule of thumb for telling them apart. A jihadist wants Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel torn up now. An Islamist wants Egypt’s peace treaty with Israel torn up later, when the chances of military victory have improved.

The Council on American-Islamic Relations, an American advocacy group sometimes labeled “Islamist” by critics, previously lobbied for the AP to drop the term. In a January op-ed CAIR’s communications director, Ibrahim Hooper, wrote the term “has become shorthand for ‘Muslims we don’t like’” and “is currently used in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

As of Thursday’s update, the AP definition reads:

An advocate or supporter of a political movement that favors reordering government and society in accordance with laws prescribed by Islam. Do not use as a synonym for Islamic fighters, militants, extremists or radicals, who may or may not be Islamists.

Where possible, be specific and use the name of militant affiliations: al-Qaida-linked, Hezbollah, Taliban, etc. Those who view the Quran as a political model encompass a wide range of Muslims, from mainstream politicians to militants known as jihadi.

I’m keen to know which “Islamic fighters, militants, extremists or radicals” don’t support rule by Islamic law. Do they mean the small sliver of Syrian rebels who don’t want Assad replaced by a religious state? Kudos to CAIR, though, for zeroing in on this very important issue. If there’s one surefire way to improve American-Islamic relations, it’s by complaining loudly that governance by shari’a shouldn’t necessarily be viewed pejoratively.

Semi-serious exit question: If the term “illegal immigrant” is now verboten because it’s too label-y, reducing a person to just one element of his behavior/beliefs, why is “Islamist” being retained?

Update: Good news and bad news. The good news: The Defense Department does include Islamist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood under the heading of “religious extremism.” The bad news: Er…


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Of course they are. They are preparing for their new masters.

Little do they know, they will be among the first to go.

cozmo on April 5, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Now this is a logical progression which should be fun to watch. Whatever could be next?

cynccook on April 5, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The bad news: Er…

I honestly don’t know what to write about that…

cozmo on April 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

My care meter for the AP and CAIR doesn’t register very much.An Islamist will always be an Islamist.

docflash on April 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I honestly don’t know what to write about that…

cozmo on April 5, 2013 at 6:07 PM

It makes more sense in context. This is a fun read.

cynccook on April 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

But we’ll continue to utilize the term terrorist and tea baggers when speaking of the Tea Party.

Sincerely,

Associated Pravda

HumpBot Salvation on April 5, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Coming soon:
Allahpundit becomes GenericDeityPundit.

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on April 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

A country follows the lead of its leader. Obama, Leftist that he is, has been playing word games from the beginning. Image is reality. And calling something by a different word, makes it a different thing.

undocumented workers — criminals
unwed mothers — irresponsible
homosexual behavior — unnatural, abnormal
on public relief — freeloader
Islam — intolerant religion of exclusion and death

How about those.

Paul-Cincy on April 5, 2013 at 6:12 PM

But what does the five year old think?

M240H on April 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM

YES!!! From now on we shall call them post-Christians!

WryTrvllr on April 5, 2013 at 6:14 PM

The Defense Department came under fire Thursday for a U.S. Army Reserve presentation that classified Catholics and Evangelical Protestants as “extremist” religious groups alongside al Qaeda and the Ku Klux Klan.

Those bitter clingers are a dangerous bunch.

Insane isn’t a strong enough adjective for these people coming up with this stuff. You’d almost get the impression that they are doing this on purpose to get a very negative reaction.

tru2tx on April 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

To the secular Left, all religious belief is by definition extremist and likely to result in bloody terrorism, the recent history of terrorism being almost entirely the work of Islamist terrorists notwithstanding. Reality cannot be allowed to interfere with leftist doctrine.

novaculus on April 5, 2013 at 6:15 PM

From the “er”-link:

An Army spokesperson said the presentation “was produced by an individual without anyone in the chain of command’s knowledge or permission.” The Army removed the offending slide after receiving complaints.

The person responsible for the presentation, the spokesperson said, “was not a subject matter expert, and produced the material after conducting Internet research.”

Glad to see our tax dollars are supporting such effective and intelligent personnel.

FWIW, you can be an “extremist” about lots of things without wanting to blow things up and kill people.

AesopFan on April 5, 2013 at 6:18 PM

So is Nadal Hassan an Islamist terrorist or a jihadist terrorist?

Happy Nomad on April 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Any chance they’re opting for, Crazed Muzzie instead?

@AsalamaTweetum

Opinionnation on April 5, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Update: Good news and bad news. The good news: The Defense Department does include Islamist groups like the Muslim Brotherhood under the heading of “religious extremism.” The bad news: Er

Please, follow the “Er” link, and then read the presentation. Here’s an hors’ durve:

On slide 22, it lists Catholicism as “Religious Extremism”. That same list includes Al Qaeda, the KKK, and Hamas (among others).

Way back towards the front, it gives the official Army policy concerning soldiers and affiliations with “Religious extremism”.

It prohibits soldiers from:

Participating in a public demonstration or rally
Don’t go to church

Attending a meeting or activity with knowledge that the meeting or activity involves and (sic) extremist cause
Don’t attend weddings or abortion protests

Fund raising activities
No tithing, bake sales, or car washes

Recruiting or training members
Cancel Sunday school

Creating, organizing, or taking a visible leadership role
Ushering is out

Distributing literature on or off a military installation
Since ushering is out, the handing out of bulletins for the Sunday service goes with it.

And this is what the US military is teaching today. That the Catholic church is to be regarded as an equal with Al Qaeda.

OMG!

BobMbx on April 5, 2013 at 6:21 PM

The number of hate groups, extremists and anti‐govt organizations in the U.S. has
continued to grow over the past three years, according to reports by the Southern Poverty
Law Center
. They increased to 1,018 in 2011, up from 1,002 in 2010 and 602 in 2000.
The striking rise is fueled by the superheated fears generated by economic dislocation, a
proliferation of demonizing conspiracy theories, the changing racial make‐up of America
and the prospect of 4 more years under a black president who many on the far right view
as an enemy to their country.

Awesome. Now the Pentagon is going by the SPLC’s “reports.”

cynccook on April 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM

I can see where the Left calls Evangelical Christianity the worst of the bunch – after all, we as a rule oppose all Socialist ideas. However, it’s surprising to find American Catholics on the list; after all, they support every lefty cause short of Soviet-style Communism.

Steve Eggleston on April 5, 2013 at 6:23 PM

So is Nadal Hassan an Islamist terrorist or a jihadist terrorist?

Happy Nomad on April 5, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Disgruntled worker. Try to keep up.

wolfsDad on April 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Associated Press: By the way, we’re revising the term “Islamist” now too

Hey, here in Possum Holler we’re revising your name too. Here are some samples.

AP—Administration Press

AP—American Pravda

AP—Asses in the Press

AP—Actual Progressives

AP—American Prostitutes

AP—Absolutely Pathetic

AP—Americas Presstitutes

AP—Associated Punks

Did I miss any? Well yes, the obvious “traitors to the republic” but…….

PappyD61 on April 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Disgruntled worker. Try to keep up.

wolfsDad on April 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Victim of Islamophobia

Run faster.

BobMbx on April 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Run faster.

BobMbx on April 5, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Come crawling faster…
Obey your master…
Your life burns faster…
Obey your master, master, master of puppets are pulling your strings.

Steve Eggleston on April 5, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Did I miss any? Well yes, the obvious “traitors to the republic” but…….

PappyD61 on April 5, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Ass Probes

BobMbx on April 5, 2013 at 6:29 PM

In related news, Dave Drywall’s fellow Canuck Ali Velshi, who majored in religious studies in college but currently plays an “economic expert” on The Most Busted Name in News CNN, has a new gig.

“al-Jazeera, here I come!”

Del Dolemonte on April 5, 2013 at 6:30 PM

sharia compliance straight up.

tom daschle concerned on April 5, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Ibrahim Hooper, wrote the term “has become shorthand for ‘Muslims we don’t like’” and “is currently used in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

Yeah, so what’s the problem? Islamist isn’t supposed to connotate “honey, lovie, or even amigo.”

arnold ziffel on April 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Ibrahim Hooper, wrote the term “has become shorthand for ‘Muslims we don’t like’” and “is currently used in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

Yeah, so what’s the problem? Islamist isn’t supposed to connotate “honey, lovie, or even amigo.”

arnold ziffel on April 5, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Funny, I thought the name Ibrahim Hooper had become shorthand for ‘Traitors we don’t like’” and “is Replacing Benedict Arnold in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

SWalker on April 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Bunch of dhimmi’s at the AP..bowing down to CAIR..

sadsushi on April 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

And here I thought I couldn’t possibly hate the media even more.

sbvft contributor on April 5, 2013 at 6:44 PM

Funny, I thought the name Ibrahim Hooper had become shorthand for ‘Traitors we don’t like’” and “is Replacing Benedict Arnold in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

SWalker on April 5, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Mr. Hooper is one miserable pos that I’ve been hatin on for quite some time now. In fact my list expands daily and includes plenty of Quisling republicans.

arnold ziffel on April 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM

Is there a way to boycott the AP? I want to get my news from an organization that does not put arbitrary boundaries on their reporting. (Serious question, can’t we make it hurt their bottom line?)

dentalque on April 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Is there a way to boycott the AP? I want to get my news from an organization that does not put arbitrary boundaries on their reporting. (Serious question, can’t we make it hurt their bottom line?)

dentalque on April 5, 2013 at 6:50 PM

They get their money from advertising. You don’t still buy dead trees do you?

WryTrvllr on April 5, 2013 at 6:53 PM

Fortunately the Asso. Press is keeping the term:

“slobbering, self-castrating dhimmi”

to refer to it’s own reporters and editorial staff.

Bruno Strozek on April 5, 2013 at 6:59 PM

Assimilated Pricks

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2013 at 7:01 PM

moderated?…Assimilated Pr!cks ?

KOOLAID2 on April 5, 2013 at 7:02 PM

Ibrahim Hooper, wrote the term “has become shorthand for ‘Muslims we don’t like’” and “is currently used in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

CAIR does stand for Muslims I don’t like!

tomshup on April 5, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Islamist

Islamo-fascist is actually a pretty good substitute.

Next up: touchy-feely replacements for the words murderer, rapist, & child molester.

itsnotaboutme on April 5, 2013 at 7:04 PM

I have to jump into the shower because I’m going out, so I do not have time to make some witty comment in this thread, so I will simply say this: Our government is lying to us. Islam is not a “religion of peace.” It is a death cult founded by a mass-murdering warlord in Seventh Century Arabia.

Everything that they are telling us is a lie.

All of our governmental officials and most officers in the military should be brought up on charges.

The slime in the media? They don’t deserve to live.

Unlike most in our sorry-ass ball-less country, I actually care about future generations.

Destroy them all. Destroy them all.

WhatSlushfund on April 5, 2013 at 7:25 PM

This is hardly surprising.They revised the word “news” to become left-wing propaganda years ago.

redware on April 5, 2013 at 7:27 PM

My care meter for the AP and CAIR doesn’t register very much.An Islamist will always be an Islamist.

docflash on April 5, 2013 at 6:08 PM

I just don’t “CAIR” anymore. Har!

squint on April 5, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Stupid…where you have an enclave of Muslims, there will be at least one jihadist in the bunch, with a lot of the rest of them quietly behind him (Please note that I do NOT say ALL). Haven’t any of these idiots read the Koran and the Suras? Or am I, just some lowly female middle class citizen, the only one?

Holy crap, when Bush invaded Iraq, I predicted all this crap in the Middle East would happen (Not that anyone would ever listen to ME). And I’m not exactly brilliant. But, if I don’t know something, I, at least research it. Weren’t there any advisers around to enlighten Bush about anything about Islam? Had ANY of them read ANYTHING about Islam? That’s it’s allowed to lie to infidels? And that it’s even ok to lie to other Muslims, if it further the cause of the 12th Imam? And that devout Muslims are required to support the jihadists? And that it is perfectly acceptable to kill non-Muslims? Jeez, I’m certainly not the sharpest spoon in the knife drawer, but even I knew about that.

I just don’t understand why they try to appease these people. Don’t they realize that they are going to get stabbed in the back, and drag the rest of us with them? Well, other than the fact that that you can get blown up.

There’s a store in Boise that I go to occasionally, that is pack full of Muslims. I never go there without my .40. I’m not wearing a GD headscarf for anybody…the most I ever wear is my Atlanta Braves ballcap.

Religion of peace, my a**.

sage0925 on April 5, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Nuke ‘em.

S. D. on April 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

AP=propagandists

EdmundBurke247 on April 5, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Meanwhile, they will still call Republicans Nazis.

Hummer53 on April 5, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Since the word “Islamist” is no longer acceptable to the Associated Press, I suggest they replace it with “Koran thumper.”

Hermeticus on April 5, 2013 at 9:35 PM

AP breaking news: something happened to someone, somewhere. We can’t get more specific than that.

BDavis on April 5, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Nuke ‘em.

S. D. on April 5, 2013 at 7:59 PM

Um, the North Korea thread is up at QOTD…

Bruno Strozek on April 5, 2013 at 11:05 PM

Illegal alien Islamists hardest hit.

profitsbeard on April 6, 2013 at 1:48 AM

The AP should also look at doing away with the term “assault weapon” when it’s used as a political term by the gun banners to scare the uninformed instead of the actual definition of an assault weapon.

RJL on April 6, 2013 at 5:44 AM

Instead of islamist the new word will be islame-ist.

kregg on April 6, 2013 at 6:34 AM

currently used in an almost exclusively pejorative context.”

Next word up to be abolished is Nazi—-It is always used in pejorative context. (rightfully so).

Herb on April 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Will “news laundering” pass moderation this time?

Barnestormer on April 6, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Never ceases to amaze me how much he looks like KJ….

Bradky on April 7, 2013 at 11:17 PM

Islam is unusual among religions because it is overtly political. It is all about domination and submission. Women are less than cattle and infidels are less than dogs.

We should be spending no more time on Islam than we spend on aboriginal beliefs about the causes of rain. We owe nothing to these tribal illiterates.

We need leaders who will stand up for the progress that the West has made.

virgo on April 8, 2013 at 1:24 AM

The bad news: Er…

Because we all know Christian groups CANNOT be extremists, right?

Salahuddin on June 6, 2013 at 11:07 PM