Report: U.S. backing off shows of force against North Korea for fear of what Kim might do

posted at 11:21 am on April 4, 2013 by Allahpundit

This isn’t merely a failure of nerve, it’s a failure of intelligence and a failure to keep operational secrets. The White House had a “playbook,” agreed to by O, Hagel, and John Kerry, on how to rattle its saber at North Korea during the next crisis without rattling it so much that NK would get spooked and do something rash. E.g., first comes some B-52 flights over South Korea, then the B-2s make a cameo, then the F-22s, and so forth. Problem one: Kim’s gone further in his bellicosity than U.S. analysts expected and now they’re unsure if they know where his personal red line is. Problem two: The deployment of two destroyers last weekend to the Pacific wasn’t part of the “playbook” and wasn’t supposed to be publicized. That was a bona fide strategic move, not a show of muscle-flexing designed for North Korean and international consumption. But then the news leaked and the Navy confirmed it, which turned the deployment into an inadvertent, potentially war-sparking audible.

One screw-up on top of another, so now it’s time to cool things off before someone gets nuked.

Officials said publicizing the destroyers risked ratcheting up tensions with the North more than the White House had intended. Likewise, they said, White House officials became upset because the disclosure wasn’t in keeping with the orchestrated rollout it had sought to control.

The White House has put the next steps in the playbook on hold while it assesses the North’s posture, officials say, though the administration hasn’t ruled out future shows of force. On Tuesday, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said the U.S. wanted to lower the “temperature” on the peninsula…

[W]ithin the administration, some officials voiced concern about unintended consequences of provoking North Korea [by following an escalation "playbook"]. Some of these officials questioned the faith the White House and Pentagon placed in the intelligence agencies, which have a mixed record of predicting North Korean behavior.

However, few objections were raised at the highest levels during the meetings, according to participants—unlike in other Obama administration deliberations about using military force abroad, including Libya, Northwest Africa and Syria, that have been marked by protracted debates. President Barack Obama gave the green light to proceed with the playbook, these people said.

The unspoken risk: What’s the effect on Kim’s already unpredictable behavior now that he knows the U.S. is willing to tear up its “playbook” for fear of pushing him too far? Does that encourage him to be bolder? Or is this Journal story the White House’s way of making it easier for him to climb down? The WSJ’s sources are “U.S. officials” — important ones too, if they’re privy to what went on during meetings “at the highest levels.” Could be that Obama wanted this leaked as an olive branch to NK: The U.S. will eat shinola publicly for having been a little too aggressive towards Kim, whereupon Kim can declare moral victory and step back from the brink with South Korea. It’s a way to let him save face while retreating. “Look how the Americans tremble!” We’ll see if North Korea’s propaganda mill has any fun with it today. They sure have been having fun lately.

Exit question: How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?


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So, what’s new from the coward in chief? He doesn’t want NORK shut down because that would keep bombs, rockets, and nuclear technology from his muslim friends.

Old Country Boy on April 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

WOW I am the first to be a comment. COOL

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Rodman needs to get on this, stat!

Gatsu on April 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

I literally facepalmed when I read the headline.

For some reason, the only thing I can hear playing in my head right now is:

“Eric Kim, don’t call my bluff”

makattak on April 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I thought it when this was a headline and still do.

This is what happens when someone is promoted beyond their competence. (Of course, that was evident when Dear Leader was in the Senate. Yet, he was somehow STILL promoted… oh, wait. “Historic”, that’s right.)

makattak on April 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Nope. Not quick enough on the keyboard. :)

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

This could all be because we have a horrible Sec of Defense, horrible Sec. of State, and a horrible president. If you are North Korea, why not attack now, when your enemy is at its weakest its been EVER.

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Kim Spring.

Shy Guy on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

first comes some B-52 flights over South Korea, then the B-2s make a cameo, then the F-22s, and so forth.

And then along came the destroyer McCain and the world knew what that familiar name and what John McCain stood for.

fourdeucer on April 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Why do I get the feeling we’re reliving “The Chamberlain” period again?

Nuke the little SOB and get it over with.

GarandFan on April 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

This could all be because we have a horrible Sec of Defense, horrible Sec. of State, and a horrible president. If you are North Korea, why not attack now, when your enemy is at its weakest its been EVER.

Kim could gamble that Barry and Co. will provide yet a better window of opportunity through weakness, given a little more time, Barry will always blink first in a staredown.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

All the adults have been replaced with children. Will Kim at least put us out of our misery (incidentally, this might be the best thing for national revival)?

nobar on April 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM

One screw-up on top of another, so now it’s time to cool things off before someone gets nuked.

Once again we see that actually governing isn’t like running a campaign. Who could have predicted?

STL_Vet on April 4, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Obviously, unconditional surrender is the only option at this point.

Pork-Chop on April 4, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Just don’t bother to open your eyes in the morning mr preezy, things will be ok, there there now, don’t fret, just DO NOT BLINK!… Buaahhhhh!

Scrumpy on April 4, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Oh bull… The idiot in chief just spent the last 3 weeks saber rattling with increased military presence, triop build ups, wargames and bomber flyovers to show NK we mean business and NOW he folds?

Does he have ANY understanding of what that means in poker?

If I were Kim if be moving into South Korea right now because I’d know the US would do NOTHING ad Chuna would had my back.

This guy makes Bush’ actions in Iraq appear to be of genius level… (And I was 50-50 on going into Iraq…)

Skywise on April 4, 2013 at 11:34 AM

I wonder if a little bit of this “Playbook” escalation was to entice some Republicans, who shall remain unnamed, to provide some cracks in the Sequester wall the Republicans have built and it unintentionally got them too far into a crisis they were using.

Dusty on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

So there’s something to be said for the idea of a nuclear deterrent?

CurtZHP on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Too much stress for the prezz. He’s afraid that it would ruin his concentration on more important things like his basketbll or golf game.

stuartm80127 on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Nuke the little SOB and get it over with.

In all fairness, I think Barry will allow the little SOB the first strike, see where it lands, play out a round of golf and then come to a decision on what response would be most apt to make Barry look most like John Rambo.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

It’s 3 AM somewhere in the world right now. Does Obama have a phone in his golf cart for when that call comes?

NotCoach on April 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM

In all fairness, I think Barry will allow the little SOB the first strike, see where it lands, play out a round of golf and then come to a decision on what response would be most apt to make Barry look most like John Rambo.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

I’m Valerie Jarrett will also serve a vital role in convincing Jugears to avoid making a decision for a month or so.

NotCoach on April 4, 2013 at 11:37 AM

This could all be because we have a horrible Sec of Defense, horrible Sec. of State, and a horrible president. If you are North Korea, why not attack now, when your enemy is at its weakest its been EVER.

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Because you’re still gonna get your ass handed to you within a week?

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Man… Posting from my iPhone sux0rs…

Skywise on April 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

It’s 3 AM somewhere in the world right now. Does Obama have a phone in his golf cart for when that call comes?

No, his caddie has it and is under strict instructions to keep it turned off until after the 18th hole is done.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

This isn’t merely a failure of nerve, it’s a failure of intelligence and a failure to keep operational secrets.

So, are you saying that the shoe-phone wedding-dress mind control secret weapon employed by our double agent, Pyongyingyang 007 a/k/a The Worm inside “The Community,” failed?

We were supposed to be able to decode the 28 year-old nutter’s brain waves by…

Never mind. I get it. This is why Obama announced his desire to ‘invest’ $100 million in mapping the brain this week. The wedding-dress mind control weapon works, but we don’t know how to translate the God-of-the-last-true-Communist-country-on-Earth-who-must-not-be-embarrassed-in-front-of-his-older-brothers-old-guard-generals.

Maybe, Rosetta Stone’s Austrian Commemorative Presidential Edition might help.

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?

When it appears that lil Kim could do some economic damage by his actions.

Meanwhile, besides the leaks what do we hear from this administration? Guns, gays, and illegals in a 24/7 news cycle. And, of course, that the rat-eared devil thinks the country needs Pelosi back in as Speaker.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I literally facepalmed when I read the headline.

For some reason, the only thing I can hear playing in my head right now is:

“Eric Kim, don’t call my bluff”

makattak on April 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I thought it when this was a headline and still do.

This is what happens when someone is promoted beyond their competence. (Of course, that was evident when Dear Leader was in the Senate. Yet, he was somehow STILL promoted… oh, wait. “Historic”, that’s right.)

makattak on April 4, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Poker is not the REB’s game, he’s more of a checkers kind of guy. His daughters regularly beat him at it too.

slickwillie2001 on April 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

But….but…Obama is the best foreign policy prez ever!!! His very name strikes fear into the hearts of despots everywhere!!!

Jack_Burton on April 4, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Sarcasm becomes you young Lady!! Well done! :-)

Scrumpy on April 4, 2013 at 11:41 AM

You don’t actually believe that Obama will act?

The Final Four is this Saturday! SATURDAY!

sentinelrules on April 4, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Has Obama tried giving a speech or, or giving an iPod with his speeches, or maybe a dozen DVD to Kim?

portlandon on April 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM

oh yeah, we are officially super-gay now.

M240H on April 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I’m Valerie Jarrett will also serve a vital role in convincing Jugears to avoid making a decision for a month or so.

Perhaps an invitation to Lil’ Kim to attend a Kim Chee summit with Barry, Slow Joe and Kerry to discuss someone acting stupidly.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Can we expect a picture from the White House of Obama and the “important”people with concerned looks minus Hillary?

docflash on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

We should keep an eye on El Presidente Magnifico’s location at all times. As soon as he decides to start leading from behind from somewhere in the Midwest he’d normally thumb his nose at, it’ll be time for the rest of us to get out of the coasts ASAP.

JeremiahJohnson on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Barry will always blink first in a staredown.
hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Except with Boehner… And Justice Roberts.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

This could all be because we have a horrible Sec of Defense, horrible Sec. of State, and a horrible president. If you are North Korea, why not attack now, when your enemy is at its weakest its been EVER.

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

It could also be because lil Kim is disillusioned after the rat-eared devil went 2 for 22 in baskets made at the White House Easter Egg Roll.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM

JeremiahJohnson on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Not a half-bad idea, actually.

MelonCollie on April 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Kim has been given orders not to attack until a video has been found to be blamed and Susan rice is ready for life/death-row.

nobar on April 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM

The Player played the players and now some innocent player is gonna get played by an insane player, oh woe is me… :-(

It all makes sense, we are getting PLAYED!

Le Sigh

Scrumpy on April 4, 2013 at 11:47 AM

Fly a B-2 over Pyongyang at night and drop a million little boxes of assorted hangwa on individual little parachutes in the design of the ROK and PRC flags together.

Just to mess with ‘em.

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Barry Hussein, Where Are You?

Campaigning, vacationing, fundraising, partying, golfing, etc. Where else?

The Rogue Tomato on April 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Not even a tersely worded memo to set things right.

MarkT on April 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Except with Boehner… And Justice Roberts.

happytobehere on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I don’t think confrontations with either resulted in a staredown….Just the mere thought of one with Barry is cause enough for these two to fold. Its also difficult to maintain a staredown when you’re tearing up.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM

So let me get this straight- in the Mid-East, which we’ve militarily and spiritually abandoned with our installation of an utterly corrupt governing coalition and subsequent withdrawal from Iraq, we are now supposed to involve ourselves in a civil conflict with no good guys, but when someone points nukes at us we are supposed to tuck tail and talk nioe?

M240H on April 4, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Fly a B-2 over Pyongyang at night and drop a million little boxes of assorted hangwa on individual little parachutes in the design of the ROK and PRC flags together.

Just to mess with ‘em.

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Nah, they’d say we gave in and provided aid. Then they wouldn’t nuke DC. Where’s the fun in that?

The Rogue Tomato on April 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM

oh yeah, we are officially super-gay now.

M240H on April 4, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Most incorrect coffee-snort-through-nose comment.

Well done.

MarkT on April 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM

No surprise there. I only wondered how long it would take the Appeaser-in-Chief to back down. He doesn’t seem to realize NoKo is being so belligerent BECAUSE they are no longer scared of what we might do.

RebeccaH on April 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Who could have imagined that Red Dawn II would end up being a documentary.

Jeddite on April 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I’m seeing cover for Barry all over the place.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151566347120439&set=a.344425765438.189365.342118580438&type=1&theater

And yesterday 2 lefties at work blamed Bush for the economy… again and still. They know Barry is a loser, they just can not bring themselves to accept it.

The LLVers are kinda like addicts, their life is being damaged by the thing they are addicted to, they kinda know it, but everyday they expect it to suddenly be different/get better.

And the elites, they don’t care because they want America to be down-graded.

I’m sure there are great thinkers on the left calculating how to blame NK on GWB… and polish Barry’s halo all in a one sentence slogan…

RalphyBoy on April 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

I’m sure glad we have “Smart Power(tm)” in charge now and not that inbred Texas redneck and Haliburton running the show. s/o

simkeith on April 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Do we know we really are pausig or pulling back – say we are but keep prepping to see what he does next. Icertainly would start flooding disinformation like crazy right now. Maybe that is what they are doing – we know he is good at that.

Zomcon JEM on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Then they wouldn’t nuke DC. Where’s the fun in that?

The Rogue Tomato on April 4, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Good point

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Make an all network statement from the Oval Office:

“Any missile fired from North Korea targeting the US or our allies will be assumed to be nuclear, and will be met with an immediate and overwhelming nuclear response. Pyonyang will be a smoking hole in the ground.”

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Dexter_Alarius on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

The White House had a “playbook,” agreed to by O, Hagel, and John Kerry

I forgot how screwed we are until I read that. I suppose a military coup saving us is out of the question now that Obama has turned the army into a San Francisco bathhouse.

Buddahpundit on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

I suppose a military coup saving us is out of the question now that Obama has turned the army into a San Francisco bathhouse.

Buddahpundit on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

It literally gets more impossible every month. The military has a laundry list of reasons, but another few years and they won’t even be able. And this is ALREADY past the civilian sector to fix by force of arms.

MelonCollie on April 4, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Smart Limp power.

So proud. So very, very proud.

Midas on April 4, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Refering to the ships as “Destroyers” is way harsh.
We need a friendlier PC name for those.

“Super-light Cruisers”?
“Peace Bringers”?

connertown on April 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM

But then the news leaked and the Navy confirmed it, which turned the deployment into an inadvertent, potentially war-sparking audible.

Indeed. The WH has absolutely contributed to this escalation. Smart power. /

changer1701 on April 4, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Barry will always blink first in a staredown.
hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Unless he’s dealing with Republicans, of course. They blink before Obama enters the room.

Midas on April 4, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Fly a B-2 over Pyongyang at night and drop a million little boxes of assorted hangwa on individual little parachutes in the design of the ROK and PRC flags together.

Just to mess with ‘em.

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 11:49 AM

Too complicated. If you want to mess with them. Simply go to the edge of the DMZ and put up one of those “coming soon” construction signs with a picture of the world’s largest parking lot.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Meanwhile, besides the leaks what do we hear from this administration? Guns, gays, and illegals in a 24/7 news cycle. And, of course, that the rat-eared devil thinks the country needs Pelosi back in as Speaker.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Informal poll (since Ed won’t put a formal one up):

What will the topic of Allah’s QOTD post be tonight?

A. Guns.

B. Gays.

C. God.

D. ‘Undocumented Democrats.’

E. All of the Above.

F. None of the Above.

G. “Pink Money!” a/k/a “Jackpot!” a/k/a Ron Paul because, regardless of the poll, there will always be, at least, one Paulistinian up for arguing, “If you idiots had only voted for Ron Paul like we ‘TruCons™’ told you to, we wouldn’t have this problem. Hey, who’s up for a new 9/11 Commission?!?!?! Fire can’t melt steel, you know…and did you see the 5 Hasidic Jews dancing in the streets as the Towers fell??? They were the ONLY JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS that came near the WTC that day. All the other JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOS, conveniently, stayed home. Hmmmm…..”

Poll is now open to all! lol

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 11:59 AM

How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?

When it appears that lil Kim could do some economic damage by his actions.

Meanwhile, besides the leaks what do we hear from this administration? Guns, gays, and illegals in a 24/7 news cycle. And, of course, that the rat-eared devil thinks the country needs Pelosi back in as Speaker.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 11:39 AM

I’m not so sure they wouldn’t see a surrogate war as a way to move the lines in their favor.

Let NK and the USA both take a hit, meanwhile the PRC moves up a notch. Long term goals sometimes mean sacrificing a Rook.

RalphyBoy on April 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM

“Super-light Cruisers”?

connertown on April 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Can’t we get of this gay theme for at least one thread? ;0

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM

Refering to the ships as “Destroyers” is way harsh.
We need a friendlier PC name for those.

“Super-light Cruisers”?
“Peace Bringers”?

connertown on April 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM

How about we just cut through all the Politically Correct crap and just call them what they have become, Gay Pleasure Cruise Ships.

SWalker on April 4, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Sarcasm becomes you young Lady!! Well done! :-)

Scrumpy on April 4, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Thx. I’m DYING to know how many tats, rings, and holes our double-agent, Pyongyingyang 007, convinced ‘Lil Kim to get. Kimmie better remember Chavez’s cancer theories. DODODOdododoDODODOdodoDODODODOdodododoDODOdododoDODODOdododooooooOOoooOOOOoooooOOoooOOOOOoooOOooooo. It’s the Twilight Zone.

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Let NK and the USA both take a hit, meanwhile the PRC moves up a notch. Long term goals sometimes mean sacrificing a Rook.

RalphyBoy on April 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM

You really think that China would be able to sell its stuff if their puppet messes up the economies of Japan, South Korea, and the United States? That would be one mighty expensive rook.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Make an all network statement from the Oval Office:

“Any missile fired from North Korea targeting the US or our allies will be assumed to be nuclear, and will be met with an immediate and overwhelming nuclear response. Pyonyang will be a smoking hole in the ground.”

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.

Dexter_Alarius on April 4, 2013 at 11:53 AM

There won’t be a missile, dolt. A Mexican drug cartel will deliver the payload across the southern border to any American city of choice for $5,000 without asking any politically-inconvenient questions.

Archivarix on April 4, 2013 at 12:06 PM

first comes some B-52 flights over South Korea, then the B-2s make a cameo, then the F-22s, and so forth.

This was more for Obama’s ego than anything else. Look at me! I am powerful!

Exit question: How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?

This is the most likely scenario and one that is probably in the works right now.

Vince on April 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

Well, I’m not going to wait around for the other shoe to drop – I’m going to start learning Korean now.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6hRg-NJIKk

Pork-Chop on April 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

How many history lessons do we need about the results of weakness?

Even worse than pure pacifism is the rapid shift between provocative shows of strength and actual weakness.

As I’ve said before, many people are going to die before Obama is finished. Obama is not merely weak in matters in which we can’t afford weakness, but mean and malicious in matters which require stature and grace. He is a one-man perfect storm of ruin.

rrpjr on April 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

You don’t assemble a playbook and strategy without first predicting all possible counters- no matter how absurd.

This entire strategy looks like amateur hour. It’s just one more proof point that Obama has made the world more dangerous.

Now that they’ve gone down this path stepping back is the wrong way to go. It emboldens an enemy and diminishes your effectiveness.

What the Obama Administration is calling “reason” is really weakness and foolishness in action.

They can try to imply that China will take care of the NorK’s if we step back till the cows come home. But that’s not what happened here.

Someone just “bricked” their first military foray. Seems like a trend.

Marcus Traianus on April 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Unless he’s dealing with Republicans, of course. They blink before Obama enters the room.

They are curled up in teary eyed, thumbsucking fetal position after he leaves. Leadership anyway. They never even get to the point of a staredown.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM

And what else did you expect from Obama and his gaggle?

rplat on April 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Problem one: Kim’s gone further in his bellicosity than U.S. analysts expected and now they’re unsure if they know where his personal red line is. Problem two: The deployment of two destroyers last weekend to the Pacific wasn’t part of the “playbook” and wasn’t supposed to be publicized. That was a bona fide strategic move, not a show of muscle-flexing designed for North Korean and international consumption. But then the news leaked and the Navy confirmed it, which turned the deployment into an inadvertent, potentially war-sparking audible.

So if the deployment of the destroyers was a “bona fide” strategic move, why don’t we just tell the Norks that we have no intention of attacking them first, but (1) if they shoot a nuke at South Korea or Japan, we will shoot it down, and (2) if they launch an artillery attack on South Korea, we will bomb the artillery batteries? Give Krazy Kim III the choice between peace and war, and all the consequences thereof, and let him choose. Or let cooler heads in Kim’s military choose for him.

The problem for the US and South Korea is that Obama doesn’t know how to play chicken, because he IS a chicken.

Ronald Reagan knew how to play chicken–and scared Gorbachev into backing down without a shot being fired. Krazy Kim and his North Korea are much weaker than the Soviet Union was in the 1980′s, but we no longer have a President with the cojones to take them on.

Steve Z on April 4, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Exit question: How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?

Why should they? They know O is going to back down every time…and China is getting much more aggressive the region as well…more or less a slower version of what NK is doing.

Bottom line…Obama is a weak, dim-witted loser and China and NK can do as they please.

AUINSC on April 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM

A Mexican drug cartel will deliver the payload across the southern border to any American city of choice for $5,000 without asking any politically-inconvenient questions.

Archivarix on April 4, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Presumably by a gay Mexican illegal who is armed with an AR15. Just to fit in to America’s protected classes in the aftermath of the second term for a rat-eared devil.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM

How long before BHO blinks?

diogenes on April 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM

-
You’re welcome :-)

diogenes on April 4, 2013 at 12:14 PM

How long before BHO blinks?

diogenes on April 4, 2013 at 8:49 AM

He will be going to DEFCON BLINK momentarily…just as he did DEFCON RED-LINE? WHAT RED-LINE?

Resist We Much on April 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Don’t worry. Give Barry the ball one more time. I’m sure he’ll make it this time.

LoganSix on April 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I fear more what Barry won’t do than what Kim might do.

hawkeye54 on April 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Chicoms intervened in Korea before, but maybe they don’t now because they see value in keeping a mad dog around to mess with America and her allies in South Korea and Japan.

Christien on April 4, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Exit question: How long before China instigates a coup to put someone in the North Korean military who’s more predictable in charge?

Again: for the sake of argument, why would anyone believe the Chinese are worried about anything right now? I keep hearing that China is mortally afraid of tens of thousands of North Korean refugees swarming across its border should war break out–so fearful, in fact, that China is willing to instigate a coup or some such thing. This must truly be a new China, because the Chinese communist government I know wouldn’t much care about the plight of tens of thousands of desperate, starving people. If those desperate, starving people gave them too much trouble, the Chinese government I know would run over them with tanks. Problem solved.

Truth is, China has little to worry about and is probably pretty happy with the way things are going. Should war break out, the presence of Chinese armies massed along the Yalu River and a few hints about Chinese treaty obligations to its erstwhile North Korean ally will keep the war largely confined south of the 38th parallel. Seoul and much of South Korea will be devastated. With no ability to invade with ground troops or effect regime change, the Koreas will remain divided and–in all probability–Kim Jung Un will solidify his power and maintain the support of his generals.

Personally, I think the Chinese are using Kim Jung Un’s provocations as the medium to ask President Obama a few questions. Think of Kim Jung Un as one of those sign language translators in a convention hall. The questions are, ‘How far can we go? How would you respond to an invasion of Taiwan? What are your missile interception capabilities? Oh, and hey: got any other new technologies we should know about?’ Things like that.

President Obama is being played. So are any of you who think China isn’t pulling the strings here.

troyriser_gopftw on April 4, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Who could have imagined that Red Dawn II would end up being a documentary.

Jeddite on April 4, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Kim Jong Un saw the pirated version and thought to himself, “The difference between the movie and now is that This Time You Have Me!”

Lily on April 4, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Chicoms intervened in Korea before, but maybe they don’t now because they see value in keeping a mad dog around to mess with America and her allies in South Korea and Japan.

Christien on April 4, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Perhaps the relations between China, the Koreas, the US and Japan are a bit different than they were in 1950.

DarkCurrent on April 4, 2013 at 12:34 PM

It looks like Anonymous decided to help deescalate the tensions.

No doubt the Norks will see this for what it is and ignore it.

Dusty on April 4, 2013 at 12:35 PM

President Obama is being played. So are any of you who think China isn’t pulling the strings here.

troyriser_gopftw on April 4, 2013 at 12:28 PM

+1. Damn straight.

Christien on April 4, 2013 at 12:38 PM

The N.Korea Dear Leader is probably being told that they can beat the USA by his advisors.

Our Dear Leader, who is a communist at heart, has to tread lightly and not appear to anti communist and aggravate our financial backers the commie Chinese Dear Leader.

Philo Beddoe on April 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Back then, we knew, just as sure as Sheriff Andy Taylor always looked out for and protected the interests of the citizens of Mayberry, President Ronald Reagan would look out for and protect us.

The problem we face, now, is that an appeaser, Barack Hussein Obama, is responsible for our protection and well-being. Obama is our own version of Deputy Barney Fyfe…without Barney’s redeeming qualities.

Just like Iran baited President Jimmy Carter, and continuously called his bluff, so have our present enemies rattled their sabers at “The Great Satan”/”The Agressor”.

Remember when President Reagan sent a guided missle into Moammar Gadhafi’s bedroom? We didn’t hear a peep out of that despot for 25 years, after that.

Perhaps, President Obama should do the same in this circumstance.

That is, if he is not too busy “reaching out” to him, like he has to the murderous Muslim Brotherhood.

kingsjester on April 4, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Just imagine if Ronald Reagan were president.

Instead, you have these two dummies, fur utter shame.

Schadenfreude on April 4, 2013 at 12:54 PM

U.S. backing off shows of force against North Korea for fear of what Kim might do

“Sur-prise…..Sur-prise…..Sur-prise”……NOT!!

tencole on April 4, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Sounds to me like the Commander in Chief plays leader about as well as he plays basketball.

scalleywag on April 4, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Maybe Zero should threaten Kim with sending Rodman back – and leaving him there. That should do it.

ghostwalker1 on April 4, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Remember when President Reagan sent a guided missle into Moammar Gadhafi’s bedroom? We didn’t hear a peep out of that despot for 25 years, after that

Remember when Moammar Gadhafi didn’t have the means to vaporize 30,000 American soldiers and countless Koreans and Japanese?

Little different set of circumstances wouldn’t you say.

Bradky on April 4, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Bradky on April 4, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Remember when we did not have the technology to stop that?

It works both ways. Reality is funny that way.

kingsjester on April 4, 2013 at 1:01 PM

And then along came the destroyer McCain and the world knew what that familiar name and what John McCain stood for.

fourdeucer on April 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

And then… and then….

Barnestormer on April 4, 2013 at 1:04 PM

This could all be because we have a horrible Sec of Defense, horrible Sec. of State, and a horrible president. If you are North Korea, why not attack now, when your enemy is at its weakest its been EVER.

BroncosRock on April 4, 2013 at 11:28 AM

I wonder if a little bit of this “Playbook” escalation was to entice some Republicans, who shall remain unnamed, to provide some cracks in the Sequester wall the Republicans have built and it unintentionally got them too far into a crisis they were using.

Dusty on April 4, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Personally, I think the Chinese are using Kim Jung Un’s provocations as the medium to ask President Obama a few questions. Think of Kim Jung Un as one of those sign language translators in a convention hall. The questions are, ‘How far can we go? How would you respond to an invasion of Taiwan? What are your missile interception capabilities? Oh, and hey: got any other new technologies we should know about?’ Things like that.

President Obama is being played. So are any of you who think China isn’t pulling the strings here.

troyriser_gopftw on April 4, 2013 at 12:28 PM

None of these are mutually exclusive propositions.

I’m not so sure they wouldn’t see a surrogate war as a way to move the lines in their favor.

Let NK and the USA both take a hit, meanwhile the PRC moves up a notch. Long term goals sometimes mean sacrificing a Rook.

RalphyBoy on April 4, 2013 at 12:01 PM

You really think that China would be able to sell its stuff if their puppet messes up the economies of Japan, South Korea, and the United States? That would be one mighty expensive rook.

Happy Nomad on April 4, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Check out Ed’s new post in the Green-room.

How many history lessons do we need about the results of weakness?
Even worse than pure pacifism is the rapid shift between provocative shows of strength and actual weakness.

rrpjr on April 4, 2013 at 12:07 PM

You don’t assemble a playbook and strategy without first predicting all possible counters- no matter how absurd….

Now that they’ve gone down this path stepping back is the wrong way to go. It emboldens an enemy and diminishes your effectiveness.

Marcus Traianus on April 4, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Indeed.

We should keep an eye on El Presidente Magnifico’s location at all times. As soon as he decides to start leading from behind from somewhere in the Midwest he’d normally thumb his nose at, it’ll be time for the rest of us to get out of the coasts ASAP.

JeremiahJohnson on April 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

I’m with you, Pilgrim.

AesopFan on April 4, 2013 at 1:06 PM

kingsjester on April 4, 2013 at 1:01 PM

We still don’t have the technology to stop it with the assurance commanders would be willing to risk those kind of losses by pointless provocations.
Go back to Mayberry – better comfort zone of how things should be for you.

Bradky on April 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM

This is where Biden’s foreign policy “gravitas” is supposed to kick in, right?

Yeah, I thought so.

ICanSeeNovFromMyHouse on April 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Bradky on April 4, 2013 at 1:07 PM

“Pointless Provocations”? NO.

“Showing of wekness”? YES.

Sober up, Troll.

kingsjester on April 4, 2013 at 1:09 PM

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